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Good, as of this hour no new documents in Georgia court so maybe Vennwest won't contest HDC present move to have the Judge make a decision on past depositions but I am shaking my head since Vennwest was granted to proceed. In order for Vennwest to throw a wrench into this to try and win their case they must move forward with depositions. If not no doubt the Judge will side with HDC and make that positive decision for HDC.
The results will clear the way for us to see one way or the other what in the world HDC will or won't do with the remaining bread crumbs if any?😎
Zenos.... re: I’m squarely, and reasonably in the “more to come” camp.
I hope that becomes so true
...than was disclosed in the latest 8-K, that HDVY will be trading again and seeking to monetize its IP via new licensing contracts combined with an escalating share price. One of us will end up being correct
William F. Fromholzer, at the age of 77, will retire from the board of directors of Health Discovery Corporation (the “Company”) by October 1, 2023. Mr. Fromholzer issued the following statement: “My tenure as a director was one of the great experiences of my career and I look forward to watching the Company continue to move forward with SVM-RFE in the world of AI and in the development of identifying early stage diagnostics for common health issues.”
I am still struck with this one overriding question: Why would HDC agree to dismiss their strong case against Intel "with prejudice", meaning that they can never reopen this case, IF they hadn't already negotiated a satisfactory settlement with Intel?
"with prejudice"
HDC wouldn't normally be required to include this limitation, and I assert that they wouldn't have included it UNLESS they were getting a very satisfactory sum from Intel.
Joe - from Yahoo....about BQ that is old news and resolved.
LocWolf, that is an interesting detail, which you and I both picked up on; a detail which was inconspicuously embedded in HDC's Motion to Dismiss With Prejudice. I was curious, and still am, as to why HDC would dismiss with no recourse, but Intel agrees to the dismissal, but WITH recourse. It must mean something, but exactly what I just don't know.
I see this as key factors involving Intel/HDC.... main area of interest and probability would be the "Discovery Phase" that minimized settlement monies. Now with that comes the death of our CEO however we do know that it would be even impossible for Intel to know if some of their engineers or others within may have used our algorithm patents let alone for HDC to know so they (Intel) probably offered or the both HDC/Intel agreed on the $2.25 million dollar settlement but mainly I see the problem was in the discovery phase. How much did the death of our CEO play into all this?
As for Mr. Fromholzer's statement upon leaving HDC that is just like any of us saying things referencing HDC dealings are what we think it means nothing but why not say something pleasant upon leaving HDC but I must say the hang nail that I see with Fromholer's statement is he is leaving HDC just when the entire world or HDC is going to be blessed with a $ 1.25 billion dollar settlement (as ONLY Cathy sees it?).Nope his statement was his opinion and means nothing just like ours. I do hope there is far more coming from Intel but of course reality does slam us in the butt. Now stop and think Mr. Fromholzer can say what he wishes yet Colleen can't? come on either something stinks or there is nothing else to say, I believe there is nothing else for HDC to say.
Now look, if you were CEO and had nothing else to really say especially involving the Intel settlement would you not just deal with Vennwest and try to salvage any possible money that is left or just get that Vennwest monkey off your back so you could close down HDC with the least liabilities.
Charles also the GOD FATHER gave HDC an offer they could refuse, I mean Intel can sue HDC but HDC can no longer sue Intel.
Lefty...bend over and grab your socks...HDC ended up settling with Intel for $2.25 million dollars.
Partly I see that since Cathy over in Yahoo thought she seen a website stating $1.25 Billion award she probably did see that but not involving HDC. I mean check around the Internet and just see how many $1.2 B, 1.25 B & 1.50 B settlements you see and then Cathy should ask herself would she bet her Moms life on that? Due to her sighting of Bigfoot HDC settlement must be $1.25 Billion dollars right?
I really wish that to be true but it isn't practical what-so-ever!...but Venning thinks we are worth that too so it must be.true
It seems someone is taking up house keeping in Exicure.
Wishful thinking and some great thoughts but believe Intel is done with us.
Since we did not hear anything from Exicure yet I would think someone loaned the company money however, if we do have a business deal that might be announced after close tonight I have no doubt we will head in a entirely different direction if that is the case. Is there a private company wishing to go public, that would be our best bet, at least that is how I feel.
I see that too and tend to believe that Exicure finally has a private entities that will reverse merge with us. No doubt we were prime time, clean and a value just waiting on a player. we will here something as to an 8-K in the next hour or tomorrow sometime.I doubt that was insiders pumping this up but who knows for sure. I company that originally bought us after the reverse split lost their a$$ big time so I don't see another player like that to lose money again. https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/xcur/after-hours
Oh yes there is 😎
From Yahoo message board......
Cathy
1 hour ago
Charles-do you remember when I posted my finding information about a settlement of 0ne billion and a few minutes later it was gone? Is it not odd that Vennings prediction of.8 and 1.2 billion is exactly .2 billion on either side of the 1 billion I saw and was quickly removed. I don't believe that was a coincidence
1 hour ago
Chales
Yes, I do remember that, Cathy. I guess that we were not supposed to see that information just yet, but in time I think that the true settlement information will be released, perhaps in an upcoming 10-K? If the true settlement amount turns out to be in this range, that would be a game changer for HDC and for everyone who is invested in HDVY. 🧐
🏁🏁🏁Now wouldn't that make our day bigtime🏁🏁🏁
Charles, with what I read one can see why HDC did not deal with Vennwest they didn't need to. As for any future we have none HDC needs to deal with Vennwest to assure and then payout what they need to to certainties as must then collapse the company but had to deal with Vennwest and wait that out plus probably talk we some creditors or past employees to make future arrangements for payments. Once the main meat is dealt with they can close shop. As I now view the position(s) of HDC they, and there was never a reason to worry about any shareholders would or could rightfully sue them and expect to gain anything this is why we don't see any of the other large shareholders making suit as they already know they will lose and that there is nothing to gain period. Had I understood this prior one could also easily see that no insurance company would ever pay Vennwest squat they would just laugh at Vennwest during cocktail time while Vennwest is at the tavern drinking 2 for 1 drafts.
re-edited.......Now sincerely and yes you heard me say many things but the recent documents are very clear and HDC will prevail but that doesn't mean anything for HDC except they (HDC) no need to worry about Vennwest as to further lawsuit. So HDC would be as it is but with no threat from Vennwest.
I must say again the recent documents tie all this together and HDC will be free of them and no way in hell will any party or any investors be successful in suing HDC under and with the same thoughts as Vennwest has done, we would lose. If people were to read these documents they would see that HDC went far beyond trying to salvage our company, far beyond and the judge will see this too.
Considering all the recent documents it seem very clear that HDC does have Vennwest on the carpet and HDC will prevail but believe HDC is trying to salvage as much of the company before dissolving the company to state the least.
What opportunity exists for any future for HDC if they were to become tradable again verses selling at say .01 or ,02 cents. What could possibly send our share price higher than that? In order to be viable again we need a CEO and a CFO so we need money to pay them. HDC chances seem to be slim to none for them to do any business again and what business, suing someone else that will cost a small fortune and how many years of waiting while the expert market threatens us when we screw up in the future with SEC filings. I bet some reading this forgot that missing one or two filings will send us to the bone yard I mean to the expert market again!
Now sure it would be great in fantasy land that Intel will jump out and save us with say $50 million due to some secret deal with HDC but that isn't at all practical now is it?
Another thought from reading all the documents I wonder just how much more money we owe out to many debts. This could be the only reason we haven't filed for bankruptcy. Yes we might have some cash right now but if we dissolve the company right now what will happen to promises/written agreements made already so we might need to wait and try to raise money but how to keep the walls from collapsing?
Zenos it is clear from reading doc #78 George loaned money at 8 percent to HDC and Vennwest said that was too high of a rate yet Vennwest wanted 10 percent but decide to not even submit anything to HDC.
Vennwest did not submit a matching or lower interest rate to HDC.
OK, DOCUMENT #78 Statement of Undisputed Material Facts In Support of Defendants Motion For Summary Judgement
This 31 page supporting document by HDC clearly shows all the history from loans involving and for fighting NEO all the way up to and within the Vennwest complaint and is not just loaded with support documents it contains depositions that appear to crush Vennwest and he actually provides everything that HDC needs to win the case. I'm like...thinking what in the world was Vennwest thinking and why would keep pursuing😎
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aside from above.... https://www.vennwest.com/coming23/ you don't think Vennwest wanted HDC for their own new website for 2023-24 and it hasn't happen yet? ... like a PUBLIC TRADING COMPANY IN THE USA?
HDC/Vennwest Court Documents up to #79 536 pages.
Good_Sport no problem here is how you find out about Vennwest shares....you know how BQ jumps from managements side to shareholders side back and forth? well maybe he is still is on the shareholders side. You do recall that BQ had a lawsuit against HDC then that was dropped then Vennwest filed the same basic lawsuit (according to SEC filings). So why not ask Chazzy to ask BQ (since BQ does communicate with him from time to time) just how many share is Vennwest still holding?
Now that would be your best bet unless you phone Laurie and see if he would tell you. Now you could go to the SEC filings and look when CEO Kevin Kowbel came on board and start checking from there as he has that Canadian accent like Vennwest and possibly since BQ was a directors at that time he would know the answer to you question.
Chazzy...no need to add "sorry" since if one can dish it out one must be able to take it! two way street right?
Hello Alan...yes that time frame went right over my head didn't even think about that but I will say that most longs at this point would welcome a $2 Billion dollar settlement or Jury decision as such just to obtain a massive pump to leave this mess. Who as to (being truthful) any long term shareholder wouldn't want to exit this if some great news as such hit our message thread.
It's all about the pump and nothing more at this point regardless of any money award, future decision etc.
I made comments over a year ago and since then that regardless of what monies HDC receives they are toast if not for one reason then many reasons which I don't even need to mention.
Alan, who wouldn't appeal that kind of money. As for HDC being anything like VLSI would not be practical as you know.
As for the settlement Intel/HDC...people here are not seeing that sure it was crappy that Intel fought us in twisted way (as I see it) but the "Discovery Phase" in Texas Court may have determined the shutdown of this case period. If there was anything coming from Intel I believe HDC would have done better than what Mr. Fromholzer said in his farewell retirement statement. I mean why leave when massive things are about to happen in a positive way.
Yes Zenos as to home/family life but I generally at the mercy of extreme physical pain but there are great days beyond that however, having HDC not state a damn word or just filing bankruptcy does play or rent far too much of my time. I can't move on until they come clean one way or the other.
I hope you and family enjoyed Thanksgiving and are getting ready for Christmas day. I stated decorating the day after Thanksgiving it is my special time of the year that recharges my thankfulness, my giving, my forgiveness but for some reason the lottery keeps screwing me like HDC.
You sure have that right...it appears we have a HDC dagger or sword plunged all the way into us and HDC is pulling it out as slowly as humanly possible while they are twisting it....maybe they are doing that to slowly bleed us out instead of pulling it out fast and taking a chance of getting blood splattered on to them. Also, by taking their time in doing so we will fall to our knees too (like Vennwest has them)..instead of us lunging forward and getting blood on them.
....or perhaps pulling it out slowly gives them time to look around to know which direction to leave in without slipping on any of the blood.
I'm dealing with HDVY which has been on the Expert Market since July 2022.
I believe If I were the "Judge" I would force HDC to do the depositions but as to the players?.... this would be the quickest way to end all of this but will tell you again Vennwest has HDC on their knees. What do I conclude? I believe HDC is praying as they don't want to do depositions (so it seems) I'm sure Vennwest now knows HDC is dead meat, but again as much stalling was learned from Intel it appears HDC learned that move all too well however, as placing myself as the Judge I would force HDC to deal with the deposition as HDC has forced all of us much pain over the years.
HDC - Marty's payback must be haunting?
You that feel Intel has a place in their heart for HDC had better think again.
Hot off the press.........
HDC is now asking the court to move for summary judgment of the remaining counts 1-11 of the complaint (D.E.I). As to these counts, there is no genuine issue of material fact and the defendants are entitled to entry of judgment as a matter of law. In support of their motion, defendants rely on the contemporaneously-filed statement of Undisputed Material Facts and Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendants| motion for Summary Judgment.
Document # 76
I must hold too but I sure have been getting clobbered with holding these far too long. To this day I see a new bright star so I decide to hold and as it seems I lose again?
...I know I can go on welfare and do better 🤣
They hit the "Expert Market" today!
Revoked as of 12/4/23
Now let's see if HDC does some type of stall tactics which might open the eyes or a few investors here? I believe it is true that George and Colleen were very close so she would know the details of everything involving HDC so I see no reason for her to stall with depositions. Let us see how HDC handles the approved court motion to finally have limited depositions. I doubt HDC will use stall tactics since Colleen is acting CEO of HDC presently, I mean it seems some here feel that Intel is going to further supplement something in the way of cash or shares so why in the world would HDC delay now. The faster HDC can get through with Vennwest the quicker all of us can become rich with cash falling from the sky....where is Mr. Fromholzer when you need him? Now now Marty don't bad mouth HDC during your deposition. HDC's Christmas for my 20th year waiting will finally be glorious right HDC?
Yeap...right on time but a 8-K instead of the late 10-Q.
https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001698530/000169853023000123/xcur-20231201.htm
XCUR should be coughing up the late 10-Q tonight or Monday morning.
I believe Marty was doing a few things such as distancing himself from George/HDC, making known that George was miss managing many things involving A-Z plus of course Mary's concern about unpaid wages.
As for our patents? we have 7 of which
10,402,685 Expires 6/07/25
8,682,810 Expires 2/08/29
9,336,430 Expires 6/19/33
3 Europe patents which are BS candy
1 Japanese patent " " " " " " " " " " " "
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7,117,188 Expired 20 months ago.
How many people are being truthful in what they think and feel involving this entire mess...and all this is a mess and HDC doesn't wish to get off their butt and address us. Charles, you gotta be feeling this too regardless how positive or negative we may revolve in from year to year and from decade to decade, pure fact.
Yes , from time to time I do forget about the insurance money but what makes you so sure that HDC was up to date on paying any possible insurance premium? Maybe sue to Georges health was a strong consideration to make sure that was paid so the company wouldn't get screwed yet HDC has been screwing us for years. So according to Marty (resignation letter) George might have slipped up on making corporate insurance payments.
A thought beyond us....I believe Vennwest is after far more than any insurance payment on this entire mess. Next I must say under what conditions will the insurance company NOT provide the money. There seems to be a fine line on that subject especially with Laurie's Attorney stressing (in my words) screwing all us HDC shareholders. I mean ZERO communication from HDC to all of us shareholders just to start with.
I now don't believe there is any chance of more money from Intel to move to HDC's pockets period.
Due to Vennwest/HDC lawsuit it appears for many reason a 5th discovery attempt (limited) that the court approved for Vennwest. To do depositions of all involved in HDC and also Colleen as (acting CEO) I believe she will not enjoy the pressures. I also feel Marty Delmonte's resigning letter will seal HDC in it's never ending curse.
There is no way Intel has anything that will support us period simply because if HDC was holding monies or gains from Vennwest how would that look with the lawsuit involving Vennwest. Intel would not place themselves in that kind of position and a good reason why when Intel settles suits they are finished. So we now hear that Colleen is acting CEO yet HDC continues to put the screws to us by not being forth coming and with truth to us shareholders? Vennwest is going to clean their clock!
As you can see over on Yahoo new documents but the one about limited purpose of deposition is 10 pages. The other document is just 2 pages which is just the request/granted to open the case. It is time to eat dinner but will read them and post later tonight and yes I also print the documents. .