is dealing with William Sundel (ATNP) and Kip Eardley (ITRM)
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We'll have to wait until the SEC settles with Hayter on the Privacy Act suit. Let's see, divide $1,000 into 300,000,000 shares and there's the divy.
Is it a prediction or is that when the buying stops?
I compared it too, and it ain't him. Not real sure why you even think it looks similar. One is some European guy clearly located in an Eastern European country. The other is, well, you know. But there's no similarity that I could see.
If you know something I don't, please send me a PM during happy hour.
How did you figure out it was him?
It's not screwy, it's fraud. If you have an invention, you patent it. If you have a fraud, you market its stock.
Well it means something--- Hayter´s still alive and kicking. Problem is that even if they announced some business activity, it wouldn´t move the stock because the greys are so messed up.
Let me understand this correctly. They invent this multibillion dollar fuel saving hydrogen making thingy, then they put it on their Yaris. They take the Yaris to the shop and say, "fix my car." The Toyota dealer says, "Hey you got this thingy so we´re voiding your warranty.¨
So they quit testing on the Yaris, but might one day test on some other car.
Since the warranty is already void, why doesn´t Carlos get back to testing?
The kick in the teeth will be when they do the reverse split.
I take my Nokia N900, I plug it into my TV with the cord that comes with it, and I have IPTV. Now what exactly does ATNP offer? Oh, billions of shares of stock.
ATNP provides no tool. The CEO is a tool for Willie.
What does this mean? It means another 18 months.
04/19/2010 USCA Appeal Fees received $ 455 receipt number NYEC002983 re 168 Notice of Appeal,,,,, filed by Marco Chavarria (Romano, Daniel) (Entered: 04/20/2010)
Oh, you´ve been reading 18 USC 3 again. Just tell a judge it says and ye shall be forgiven.
Wouldn´t be the company diluting, nah, not ATNP.
Investments¿? They have no investments.
You can easily figure out what stocks are dumping and which are scams. This falls into both categories.
Why? If she falls traders will see the death drop and take a look at it. I´d rather see a 20 percent gain tomorrow than it flat every day.
They might be in the stock, front loaded it and made some bucks. They may be front loading it now as well. Follow the pattern.
Looks like you gents got some tough love today, made you number 9 top posted board. All I can say is you only lose money when you sell. Good luck with this!
Maybe the United Shareholders Group can do what Hayter did and sue the SEC for publishing information about their "interest."
U.S. District Court
Eastern District of New York (Brooklyn)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:10-cv-01530-CBA -VVP
Hayter v. Securities And Exchange Commission
Assigned to: Judge Carol B. Amon
Referred to: Magistrate Judge Viktor V. Pohorelsky
Cause: 05:552 Right to Privacy Act
Date Filed: 04/07/2010
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Nature of Suit: 440 Civil Rights: Other
Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Defendant
Plaintiff
Ed Hayter represented by Sam P. Israel
1 Liberty Plaza, Office 2330
New York, NY 10006
212-201-5345
Fax: 212-201-5343
Email: smisrael@aol.com
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
V.
Defendant
Securities And Exchange Commission
Date Filed # Docket Text
04/07/2010 1 COMPLAINT against Securities And Exchange Commission Disclosure Statement on Civil Cover Sheet completed -No,, filed by Ed Hayter. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet) (Davis, Kimberly) (Entered: 04/07/2010)
04/07/2010 Summons Issued as to Securities And Exchange Commission, U.S. Attorney and U.S. Attorney General (Davis, Kimberly) (Entered: 04/07/2010)
04/07/2010 FILING FEE: $ 350.00, receipt number 4653013369 (Davis, Kimberly) (Entered: 04/07/2010)
Hayter v. SEC references ihub post by user Liable to demonstrate how the SEC's release of information damaged him:
"By way of example, appended hereto as Exhibit 3 is a March 23, 2010, 'Investors Hub' listing specifically referring to the Branch's filing in the District Court for the Southern District of Florida and to the Plaintiff, BCFC and Caddo in connection with the SEC investigation. Available online and having been widely disseminated, the article falsely publicizes ostensible violations of the securities laws by the Plaintiff."
Hayter v. SEC, suit alleges that the SEC has "conducted a wide-scale fishing expedition into the affairs of persons and entities not subject to the formal order and concerning matters far beyond its territorial jurisdiction."
Suit states Hayter has been the subject of "this amorphous investigation" and that his "privacy rights were violated by the SEC's malicious publication of his identity in relation to ostensible criminal or civil violations... ."
Hayter alleges that "In publishing the information, the SEC breached its own confidentiality strictures and violated the Privacy Act of 1974."
Edward Hayter files lawsuit against SEC alleging Privacy Act violations.
U.S. District Court
Eastern District of New York (Brooklyn)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:10-cv-01530-CBA -VVP
Hayter v. Securities And Exchange Commission
Assigned to: Judge Carol B. Amon
Referred to: Magistrate Judge Viktor V. Pohorelsky
Cause: 05:552 Right to Privacy Act
Date Filed: 04/07/2010
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Nature of Suit: 440 Civil Rights: Other
Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Defendant
Plaintiff
Ed Hayter represented by Sam P. Israel
1 Liberty Plaza, Office 2330
New York, NY 10006
212-201-5345
Fax: 212-201-5343
Email: smisrael@aol.com
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
V.
Defendant
Securities And Exchange Commission
Date Filed # Docket Text
04/07/2010 1 COMPLAINT against Securities And Exchange Commission Disclosure Statement on Civil Cover Sheet completed -No,, filed by Ed Hayter. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet) (Davis, Kimberly) (Entered: 04/07/2010)
04/07/2010 Summons Issued as to Securities And Exchange Commission, U.S. Attorney and U.S. Attorney General (Davis, Kimberly) (Entered: 04/07/2010)
04/07/2010 FILING FEE: $ 350.00, receipt number 4653013369 (Davis, Kimberly) (Entered: 04/07/2010)
ACDS has default judgments against it for stock fraud because Kistler doesn't want to spend $10,000 in legal fee. The only reverse merger would be with a friend of Kistler so he can sell $200,000 worth of .0001 stock.
Doesn't make it a legit company. It never will be. It was a planned scam by Stephen Carnes and Brian Kistler from day one.
I am not saying you can´t make money here.
On the contrary, I also spoke with Fred Ganem. Finally, I reviewed emails from the SEC to Mr. DuBeau when they were negotiating a settlement. Those emails were routed through Willie´s hotmail account.
It´s just a fact of life, Willie´s in charge here. I am surprised he let Chris go buy two new cars in December. Bet Chris isn´t driving both of them.
Where is the SEC 8-K so we can review the terms?
A company can be honest and forthright, but one think you can bank on, if NIR is financing them, any investment you might make into the company will go down and become severely diluted.
Makes perfect sense. So we invest several million dollars into ATNP stock and they invest $5000 in a white label offering. Excellent. Now how do we make money? We know how they make money, they sell stock.
At the time I made the statement, there was no demo. I can make a demo for anything. The question here is whether ATNP is offering a product or simply slapping their name on a white label offering by someone else. I´ve heard some people received their boxes. I have not heard what makes this something proprietary.
While ATNP is an obvious scam, the fact that they are not listed on an offering website means nothing (similarly, if they were on that list it would mean nothing).
It is possible they will offer IPTV service, but understand it won´t be their own. They have no facilities. They will simply be placing their name on another company´s product as any white label reseller with $500 could do.
It is not up and running.
Talking about ATNP? In the stock fraud lawsuit against it, they told the judge that they didn't have money to hire an attorney. They said they only had $1500 in the bank. They never did hire an attorney to defend the suit.
Chris was so happy in December 2009 when his confederates (Nick Jones Investments and others) dumped so stock that he went out and bought a nice Mercedes and a Porsche.
They're trying to get people to stay in the stock by promising yet another split, but what's the reason to split the stock other than to trick you into holding it while they dilute.
You can make money with ATNP, we made some as well when it was ATNO. But call it for what it is, it's not an investment - it's a fraud. Can you make money on a fraud, yes you can if you're smart and you see what's happening. But if you think in two years the stock will be worth anything, you'll be a bagholder.
Paid PRs for over two years with ATNP but still no service up and running.
Here is more on Mr. Sundel.
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F2/897/530/436156/
Here is the link to the tax case, read how he sold millions in marijuana. This is the controller of ATNP.
http://law.onecle.com/tax/1998/sundel.tcm.wpd01.html
The tax case argues that he should not be taxed for his marijuana sales, it is in the name William Henry Sundel.
Demo? I thought they were launching the service?
Let me understand this correctly: Weiss, a very prominent and wealthy guy, decided to act as nominee for Ed Hayter. During the period of his nomineemanship, they don´t print a single share. They don´t make any money with the program.
I just don´t get it. Feel free to explain it to me in more detail.
Read the reports, all their money goes to pay consultants. The Company admittedly has nothing in their bank accounts.