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Where are they covered??...
Please provide links as i have in my previous posts.
Nonetheless, I understand that this truth disrupts the flow of the posts that pump this stock, and I will not continue to post here, as i have no further interest... I just checked here yesterday to see if i was missing something and i have yet to hear a valid counter claim.
There are no exceptions to patent protection. You either have it or you don't... I have the benefit of knowing a patent attorney, so although I have a high tolerance for speculative investments in OTC, i tend to avoid those that lack the foundation for which the entire market cap is based.
I wish everyone the best of luck here. It's really a jungle in this OTC arena.
Patents are assigned to corporations... not people... if a company is acquired the patent must be transferred to the new co. in order for the value of the IP to be considered in the market cap.
Can anyone please enlighten me re: the absence of any patents by ANDI or Utopya... please refer to my previous posts with links to the us patent registry.
Regardless of Lowden's history with the microsoft patent case, this company, as well as all company's, must be registered as the assignee in order to have patent protection.
If he hides it under another company for some reason, as one of u suggested, please advise regarding that companys ticker so i can perform additional DD on that co.
As for ANDI, this current market cap is no where near sustainable levels without the patent protection that builds value into the co.
I welcome all counter arguments but I've spoken to a patent attorney on this. There are no exceptions
Thank you Mr Smith.
I appreciate your feedback, but I've lost 100% of my previous investments despite the contrarian support of "75% of the hardened investors" here.
I know the CEO in PRs has indicated that the IP is proprietary but i dont see the patent as proof... The USPTO.gov site I've linked before is the official US patent site and its not there... I've learned to check patents from a patent attorney friend
I was considering buying here.
But i was concerned that the company does not have a patent to protect their IP; the phone apps require patent protection too. Please refer to the following US Patent gov site.
USPTO.gov
...feel free to type in utopya to see if its assigned to them.
In all cases where I've lost my entire investment in OTC companies, it was due to larger players stealing the IP platform prior to the funding and execution of the OTC company.
I've since learned to check the US patent gov site prior to investing. Please provide any thoughts how this may be different
Does anyone have a link to the patent on this AI crowd sourcing technology?...TIA
Thank you kindly Thunder...
interesting concept... I've been reading up on crowdfunding, specifically as it relates to a publicly traded company, and i understand that the funds are not typically available until after a qualification period of 2-6 months.. during this time i believe there is a marketing campaign (to gain investor interest) and the shares can not be sold... after the qualification period the shares can be registered with a brokereage firm and they can be sold on the equity exchange... upon registration, doesn't the O/S count increase, causing dilution?
Please correct any misunderstandings.
Thanks again, I really appreciate your insight
Not entirely sure which way this will go, especially with the upcoming Oscars streaming opportunity, but please consider the following 2 thoughts.
1. Why has the company chosen to delay the pending dilution of 4 billion shares... the crowd funding campaign should take 2 to 6 months before the shares are added to the O/S share count. If the company has positive news i could see the benefit of releasing them now (small float) and dilute later... rather than just flood the market with new shares now...into the news events
2. However, if there is good news pending, why is the CEO (who holds 12% stake in company) as well as hundreds of other restricted share holders willing to sell all their shares at a market discount price of $.002?... please read the list of "selling stakeholders" in the share offering docunent and you will see the CEOs name towards the bottom of page.
Unless I'm missing something, these 2 considerations seem to conflict with each other.
Please provide any thoughts you may have
And who wants to be an actor contest... lots of eyes will be on this very shortly!!!!
What could this next PR be given this morning's text and the Oscars being 3 market trading days away
I'm looking to invest here...
Could someone please help me understand why an OTC traded company like GRDO would crowdfund?... and how this benefits current shareholders.... Why not just issue more outstanding shares... I understand that liquidity might be a concern in OTC but how will crowdfund affect liquidity as i would presume a marketing campaign would still be required to succeed.
I'm in MVE*S and they just announced the issuance of 4.5 billion shares for crowdfunding. The O/S is currently around 750 million shares. I understand that there will be a measured draw on the issuance of the shares but doesn't the crowdfunding still have dilutive effects.. Or is the crowdfunding an indicator of pending news?
I would appreciate any help or reference literature...Thanks in advance
Agreed
... not claiming to know anything re: this, but how would your opinion change if you knew there was a buyout for $100 to $200 mill in the next few weeks... again, I'm not claiming to know anything, and all my statements are my opinion, but the filing suggests that there is a timing component, of which we are not aware.
The difference is timing... now ask yourself why is timing an issue?... therein lies your answer.... btw, some dilution in an emerging sector is expected providing the funding is used towards expanding the business in a way that generates income
The filing in and of itself isn't very revealing in my opiniom... its a tool for financing...and the investors or investnent firm gets a discount at .002...however, reading betw the lines, why would the company not just issue more shares for funding and dilute shareholders now...why wait for the qualification date months from now to get funding?... I believe the reason is that the company has significant events in the mix (JV, buyout, etc) and may not need the financing in a few months... remember these shares can not be traded until the qualification date in a few months... they're in a holding account... kinda like escrow but different... all above is stated as my personal opinion as I'm not an SEC attorney
The SEC imposes strict criteria re: investment capital in crowdfunding... there are maximum investment percentages and exclusions based on income levels...and in this case only NY residents are eligible... in order to create the liquidity that the company needs to sell these shares at this bargain price, they will need to PR something significant... ... the company knows this... again, the earliest these shares could be tradeable and added to the O/S share count would be 2-6 months... beginning this week and as we get closee to this qualification date, there will be substantial PRs in my opinion... otherwise the company doesn't get the liquidity and therefore, the funds at the qualification date 2 to 6 months from now
These shares do not appear to be traded publicly until the financing is complete after the qualification date, typically 2-6 months. Refer to the pasted verbiage below, directly from the Minivest.com website minivest.com/FAQ.
As such, the outstanding share count should not be affected until the shares are released and deposited in a brokerage firm. It is my opinion, that the company is exploring alternate finance options where the current shareholders are not diluted... This buys the company time to build the business and attact more favorable financing, JV partnership, or possible buy out. The fact that the company didnt quickly issue more shares as a means of financing indicates that the company believes in their short term strategy. Accordingly, i believe that a significant PR is released very shortly...could be tomorrow or this week in my opinion. If the company's strategy works, they may not need the crowdfunding funds
"WHEN WILL I GET MY SHARES?
Shares will be released to investors upon the close of escrow after the offering has successfully ended. At that time, the cash invested will be released to the company. Each company is responsible for breaking their escrow and issuing shares.
CAN I SELL MY SHARES?
Yes, once you own them. Purchased shares are not currently tradeable. Expect to hold your investment until the company lists on a national exchange, is acquired, or you deposit your shares with a brokerage firm that will accept them if the shares are publicly traded. Also, if the shares are publicly traded, the marketplace for them may not to be liquid, meaning that you may have a difficult time to selling them. Minivest assists companies in raising capital and once the offering is closed and the shares have been received by the investor, we are no longer involved with what occurs thereafter"
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO FILE WITH THE SEC FOR REGULATION A+ (TITLE IV)?
You should expect the process of a Reg A+ campaign to take 2-6 months from inception to collection of funds. This timeline is dependent of course on how much time and expertise your company has to devote to creating a campaign, the age and complexity of your company, how many customers and fans you have, when you file with the SEC, etc.
In reviewing the attorney letter...
I believe the filing of SEC form 1-A intends to register these shares with the SEC so that a potential uplisting to Nasdaq can occur... not buyout. Given that there are minimum O/S, market cap, and share price requirements (i.e., $4 S/P) prior to uplisting, the company is reconciling these issues so that when they release PRs larger hedgefunds and investment money are attracted.
I believe that the share price offering of .002 is irrelevant here as the company merely needs to establish a base share price for the filing and given the recent volatility it doesnt want to overshoot it.
... or they may put out a PR tomorrow leading up to Oscars (7 days away) and make Friday's transaction crystal clear... PERFECT SETUP!!!
thanks Beer$$..... . but how can the filing be official if there are no dates?... the date is blank, no filing no, and the .002 and .02 disparity is questionable... i understand that there are amendments to filings but why so many contradictions... this appears to be fraudulent
or .20??... Again, how can this filing be substantiated?... hypothetically i can cut and paste the document and put whatever price i want...lol
haha... not sure... but someone has a vested interest in posting info that is not substantiated in any of the routine OTC Markets or company website... maybe they know more than the IR rep, but again why would they divulge their insider info????
Will the person who posted the news on Ihub post the link of the governing site... not the filing directly but the agency's website... the posted link refers to otc markets but the otc market site does not list the link... why ?.... again, its either fraudulent or insider info... both are questionable
thanks Giddy
but again, where is the official news.
trust noone on these message boards.
Why would someone post something that cannot be officially substantiated?
only options are... insider info or fake... both are questionable
if insider info, why would someone try to alert us of IPO price of .002 when the current price is .003?... and risk SEC investigation
im not buying it, and will buy the shares from weak hands
Thanks Giddy...
but where did this link come from?
Given that the date information is blanked out, this is either a draft version or a fraud.
if it is a draft version, then you have to believe that someone has posted insider information on a public message board. Why would they do this?
if it is not a draft version, then it is fake
Could someone kindly provide a link to the filings/ news as i dont see them on the OTC Markets site or the company's website? TI
I think you're right Fisherman...
I reread the EuroAmerican partnership press release... As of the PR date of 01-18-18, Nyloxin was not officially added to the Federal Supply Schedule. Although the EuroAmerican CEO believed that the product could be quickly added to the register, there may have been some business strategies not considered originally... And given the proximity of the product removal and the nerve agent PR yesterday (both military related), I could only surmise that these two events may be somehow linked. I don't think Rik knew that Nyloxin was going to be added so fast and he knew that he was going to release the nerve agent counter measure provisional patent PR this week.
This link may be further supported by yesterday's PR comments:
“We are now filing new intellectual property surrounding these findings and will be working with experts in the field to have our products in testing shortly. This work will go hand in hand with our efforts to promote our OTC pain therapy, Nyloxin, as an opiate replacement to the US military and veterans,”
“Supply chain issues with existing counter measures and the safety and effectiveness of these drugs is a great concern. Based on our pre-clinical studies and experience in neurobiology products, we believe that we have a superior product ready for testing in the near term
... just speculating here, but is it possible that Rik wants the two therapies to go "hand in hand" (concurrently)...or is there a marketing strategy here for a buyout?
The fact that Rik hasn't rescinded or corrected the EuroAmerican partnership on his website...and the fact that he continues to support the use of Nyloxin in the military (yesterday's PR) suggests that there is a bigger strategy... we will know very soon!!!
I am also convinced that this product removal is a business strategy and not product related as the EuroAmerican CEO has witnessed the benefits first hand... She said in the PR: "We have seen that Nyloxin substantially reduces all types of pain without mental confusion, addiction or toxicity."
Also, if there was a quality control issue, it would have been removed from the Amazon site as well.
...uncensored live feed for “red carpet” and “behind-the-scenes” celebrity interview(s) and Movie Studio events.
...the world could potentially be the audience any moment now!!
Possibly...
Why would the company PR live streaming on the red carpet and behind the scenes with movie stars a few days ago if they didn't plan to launch prior to the Oscar's Ceremony next week?... no brainer... PRs will come very soon... possibly today IMO.. they will need time to launch and market/ advertise prior to the ceremony next Sunday.
Thanks Mr Fisherman...
Thanks for offering but I know the post to which u are referring.
But now u peaked my interest
What is your best indicator that other nutra pharma products will be manufactured at these additional labs?
And while we're on the topic why do u think the product was removed from gsa' supply chain... I called the sales hotline no. but the sales rep did not know... Tia... I really appreciate your thoughts
GM Fly... please clarify this group's contention that four additional manufacturing facilities have been added for the purpose of nyloxin production ... I recall the labs being listed on the gsa.gov site but there were also, I believe 20-30 other products listed on that product spec sheet... just curious if I missed something as those labs could be assocaired with the production of the other products... thanks in advance
EXACTLY...
The superbowl of entertainment... and here we are with a marketing opportunity prior to launch..
EXACTLY...
The superbowl of entertainment... and here we are with a marketing opportunity prior to launch..
Who here thinks the launch will be before the Oscars next week???... much more visibility and PRs to follow before and after next Sunday IMO.
Mark it
More news and advertising likely as Oscars nears next week!!!!
And...
Just in time for Oscars next week... u better bet there will be more news and marketing as the award ceremony nears... Huge!!!
Nothing... he thinks the February effect is at play here and 8 days was merely the last day of the month
The news reveals progress towards another pathway... among our current and pending revenue streams, defense stocks tend to perform very well in times of international conflict and war... and it confirms the distributorship with the military which is huge!... more news to follow
It's possible that nutra pharma has been bought out by big pharma and nyloxin product was pulled from gsa gov site in order to re-package with new branding
Good post Varok...
How can the company meet the 1.25 billion O/S minimum nasdaq requirement when the preferred shares are convertible to 1.25 billion, there will be 8 milliom common shares post split, and there are only 2 billion A/S?... will the company need to dilute 1.242 billion shares to make up the difference? Thanks in advance ( :
Fly...
Enjoy your whiskey binge tonight sir... you deserve it... and i sincerely respect your feedback...but please don't lose sight of the bigger picture that you've so eloquently and painstakingly revealed... our product is desperately needed!!!...regardless of your concerns with Riks transparency we will still meet an unmet need during an opioid crisis ... in riks videos he has expressed the importance of maintaining shareholder value and I don't see him flipping the script at this stage of reveal... we're just too close!!