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Someone has posted the financial terms between ASM and Minerco. I believe they state $5K/month for first 12 months and then 5% of net sales after. Might be misremembering, but if this is the case, I like the deal. There is incentive for ASM to expand sales rapidly within the first year. $5K x 12 months = $60K in earnings for ASM from Minerco. Now, IF ASM wants to keep that earnings potential they would have to bring in $1.2 million/yr or $100K/month in sales after year 1. Win Win for both companies...if ASM can't hack it (which I doubt) then we give them a 3 month window and are then terminated.
You all crack me up. It does not take balls to play pinks...it takes brains. A majority of the 1% in this world did not become the 1% because they were dumb or blind luck. Yea, some of them had BIG balls and took a chance, but it wasn't reliance on someone else.
Also, I never said don't throw "play" money at a stock you may have a chance at a home run in. If you truly believe it, take a gamble and go for it...it is when you have complete faith in something that the rich then pounce. I have just under $50K invested in this company...I like what they are doing. However, there are things they are doing I do not like and would not begin to put real assets to work here until they get answered. I am merely warning new investors and current investors to tread lightly if this is not "play" money. For me...if this makes it to where we hope it will go then great, if not it doesn't hurt me. unfortunately that is not the case for many putting money here.
GLTA
This is a nice news release, but still nothing material. there may be a lot of money "sitting on the sidelines" waiting till we start seeing growth. This is monetary growth, not news release after news release of how we just partnered with another company to take profits out of our hands. There is a lot of money on this stock, but they are not dumb. People need to see that this strategy will actually pay off and not just blind speculation like most on here try to lead investors to believe. Every press release seems to have some mention of Walmart, Target, etc, but still ZERO accounts with them. Those are Fluff pr's to accredited investors until we see actual contracts. I mean look back at the board post today...how many people have already tried leading you all to believe we are already associated with WalMart and so forth. It is great that people want to throw "play" money at this investment...I have myself. But until these fluff PR's turn into actual contracts with revenue generation the "real" money will not hit this stock.
Also, as someone mentioned earlier with galcier water(?) What is their share structure like? 3.5 billion on our books will hold this down for a very long time. MINE may rise to .01-.015 with organic growth, but they will really have to do something big to get it into the .04-.05 territory and only way it moves much higher then that is share reduction. 3.5 BILLION is a huge amount of shares and will continue to hurt us shareholders until it is REDUCED. could we see a "pop" higher with another pump by some people...sure, can't rule it out.
GLTA
How did I make it seem like they had "all kinds of other options?" I mentioned TWO...TWO ways to pay off this debt (IF it indeed was paid off.) Those two ways were:
1.) REVENUES - you know, from selling product on shelves for 4 months in over 700 stores and constantly sold out on Amazon. Oh, lets not forget all the money we speculate that Avanzar has brought in. You know...when management dumped more shares on us? I think people speculated that to bring in "100's of thousands."
2.) More shares dumped on the market. Don't need to go any further with this.
Look, I respect your post rttjr1. I think you hit the nail on the head in your last post about a new company. You are 100% correct and is why I am invested very heavily in this company (10's of thousands and will prove it if need to.) However, you make light of the new company, but fail to mention the same management at the top. This is why I am speculative on the continued share dumping and warn of a possible r/s. It is why I ask for hard facts and numbers and not pumpers bs and fluff pr's and news with nothing of substance but "buy more shares because look at all the positives on the horizon/future." I am a true definition of a long...I have been buying for 1 1/2 + years and I can't remember of selling a share under $.03. Only reason I sold that high was the P&D game I have played on OTC pinks for less th3n 2 years. Gut was telling me to take profit and my greed wouldn't allow it to take too much.
I think the positives are very bright for this company as long as management doesn't screw it up for us current shareholders. What I am afraid of though is they continue to dump shares to pay bills then either increase A/S or do a r/s when they need more money. Time will tell and I will continue to state the obvious and ask for facts when presented with BS from both sides.
GLTA
It looks better, yes. What I was getting at is they didn't make any money by doing it. They did not use revenue to pay it off, they just had the shareholders pay it off. How damn hard is that to do? This is all assuming they indeed used shares to pay it off just like all the other notes that were "paid off." See there is a clear difference between having your "loyal shareholders" paying your bills and the company stepping up and actually paying their bills. I know we are in the startup phase so I understand a bit more responsibility on the shareholders, but management is making it very difficult to believe they are not taking FULL advantage of the shareholders. Also, this is all speculation as we have no verifiable proof that the notes have even been paid off. Probably due to the fact our management team will not address shareholders directly, but will spend time putting out some meaningless forward looking speculative statement.
Either way though, to answer your question: If debt is zero, it is a positive MOVING FORWARD for the company at this point in time. It would have been a huge negative though on shareholders when it happened (if sold shares to pay.) Also, if it did happen, I think we can put to bed the whole "shorter's are killing this stock" notion that some on this board have. I think the more knowledgeable shareholders that have done this for a longer time know that shorters played a very small role in PPS and our management was the biggest reason for the drop. Don't shoot the messenger, just understand the facts that management has given us and stop over riding those facts with speculation.
GLTA
Agree RandM999,
The truth of the matter is PPS will not get to "pump" levels unless a few things happen. You obviously mention the distribution channels which would increase exposure as well as revenue, but I think the third and maybe biggest obstacle is the Share Structure. Currently we are at what 2.9 billion O/S? Mine has another ~200(?) million to dump on us?
Look, it is great if indeed they are "debt free," but how did they get there? Did they use shares to pay it off that will be dumped on us shareholders to pay for or did they use actual revenues? IF they used revenues, I see this as a HUGE positive in the sense that the management believes that revenue flows will be sufficient to not only pay debt, but keep up with demand. If they used shares...well then just another case of MINE management taking full advantage of us shareholders. I will wait patiently to hear if this is indeed fact and not just another "pump" from some posters on this board. I have been off the board for a few days, so if I missed a new release, filing, etc that verifies this I apologize and ask someone please bring it to my attn. All I have seen is..."per my DD, Mine is now debt free." I am sorry, but what DD? Why not share it with the board of how you came up with that? If posters have then I apologize, but I have not seen it. It is like me saying... "Per my DD Distribution channels to Chicago, Dallas/Houston, and the Upper Northwest are very close." I offer no fact, just opinion based on very little DD.
News? I doubt we see any news until after the filings (10q) are released. This is an assumption on my part due to the fact that history has shown that MINE likes to release news in bundles after a financial is released. I do not know why this is, but IMO it is to cover up the crap financials they have been taking to market. A very positive scenario for me (what I would LOVE to see) is financials get released (hope they are good, but bad financials can have positives to) and then come out with 1 news release speaking directly about the financials and why they are what they are. No BS fluff...no forward expectations...we are over that. What is MINE doing right now! Why are financials were they are and how do we make them continue to get better. I don't want to hear..."Stay tuned", 2 major retailers in the works, yada yada...give us FACTS!
GLTA
Not so much the next, but the 2nd quarter. On this upcoming I would like to see exactly what those Avanzar #'s are. We can speculate now, but I want to see what they actually are and put a reasonable growth rate to them. Shouldn't be hard to adjust those numbers to the full year and then add a reasonable growth rate to them.
Also, I want to see how much of VF sales actually are and what is the take Minerco is actually receiving. Sure we have gone through 22K cases...how many of those were sold and how many of those went to promotion. Remember, Minerco sponsored justice jog and a few other events. Those bottles were not sold. Are they selling cases at discounts to get them in stores? I would assume they are doing anything they can to get them on shelves. This is why the next 10q isn't as important as the one following. How are follow up sales coming?
That is just a bit of what I will look for.
And that is why you will either be handsomely rewarded or be one of the biggest investors to be taken advantage of. Time will tell and I hope it is the first. I have dumped way too much money into this stock already, but I am far from tapped to dump more, I just need more clarity before this happens. If that means getting in at $.006, .01, .02 and not $.0035 then so be it.
Future, you and me are a lot alike as for not caring about daily share price movement. I however tend to be a lot more skeptical as I have seen pennies do this over and over. Which is why I ask management to be more open to us investors. Quit with the fluff pr's, letters with extravagant "get your hopes up" wording and give me numbers! Quit with the forward looking and what "can be" and tell us what is going on now.
I will reply and try to answer from both sides. For obvious reasons they have a very good chance to succeed. They have a great product with VF and have many good/great products in the pipeline. Sales seem to be going great so far with over 700 stores in so. Cal and NY selling. With a dist. deal in place for Europe in 2015 we can see that the possibilities of this company succeeding are increasing. This is just a small sample of why this company can/should succeed.
Why will it not succeed. This is very difficult to answer and may be easier to answer why we the shareholders won't succeed. I think many of us are concerned because of the SS. This share structure is not good (nobody denying that.) However, what happens if management "goes to the well" again and increases A/S? We are done...also, a r/s would also be in the cards IF the company can not pay the bills. We will have more clarity in the coming quarter if Minerco can "stay afloat" without having to sacrifice the shareholders. Until then I am not putting anymore money into this stock and I would warn new investors as well.
I get that we bought Avanzar, but how much was actually used to buy Avanzar? Why the other systematic dumping of shares on the market? I know we can all speculate and even give a pretty good guess as to where those shares came from or were used for, but why haven't we actually heard from the damn management about these issues? I know...I know...management does not need to give us shareholders an update every day yada yada...when it is something as big as dumping 400 million+ shares on us I think it needs to be addressed with certainty from the very top.
Also, What is going to keep this stock from plummeting into the "trips?" I have seen absolutely nothing for a "pumper" to grasp onto that will keep this thing from continuing into its downward spiral.
I know...one of you will say, "why don't you just sell." Let me answer...I am long and have been for 1 1/2 yrs. I have 10's of thousands of $'s wrapped up in this stock and really do not give a crap about daily price movements. This is simply "play" money for me. I think long term this is an "ok" investment in which the reward far outweighs the risk. However, I am not a person that sits back and lets pumpers or bashers fill a board full of crap while there are actual investors that are looking at putting their hard earned money into one of these stocks on the confidence you or I have given them. I love the DD you bring to this board and step, SS, and a few others. However, asking people to "slap the ask" while it is known that some pumpers are dumping into it is crap on all levels and makes a pumper no better then a basher.
That is funny...I remember when the "bashers" were saying this was headed to sub .005 and that same "you're dreaming" saying was used. We are here...If anyone has any "truth" in what has been happening with MINE it is the "bashers." I hope us longs are ultimately correct, but at this point we are looking at trips. Especially with the management giving us shareholders the middle finger the past couple months with dilution. Hope it was positive dilution, but from history I am concerned.
Gotcha...thanks for the reply. I understand exactly what you mean.
Below is the definition of a Transfer Agent:
Public companies typically use transfer agents to keep track of the individuals and entities that own their stocks and bonds. Most transfer agents are banks or trust companies, but sometimes a company acts as its own transfer agent.
Transfer agents perform three main functions:
Issue and cancel certificates to reflect changes in ownership. For example, when a company declares a stock dividend or stock split, the transfer agent issues new shares. Transfer agents keep records of who owns a company's stocks and bonds and how those stocks and bonds are held—whether by the owner in certificate form, by the company in book-entry form, or by the investor's brokerage firm in street name. They also keep records of how many shares or bonds each investor owns.
Act as an intermediary for the company. A transfer agent may also serve as the company's paying agent to pay out interest, cash and stock dividends, or other distributions to stock- and bondholders. In addition, transfer agents act as proxy agent (sending out proxy materials), exchange agent (exchanging a company's stock or bonds in a merger), tender agent (tendering shares in a tender offer), and mailing agent (mailing the company's quarterly, annual, and other reports).
Handle lost, destroyed, or stolen certificates. Transfer agents help shareholders and bondholders when a stock or bond certificate has been lost, destroyed, or stolen. Also a medallion signature stamp officer is the transfer agent.
I am unsure who the transfer agent is at this time. I know they changed a while back and I do believe it is a third party still.
I am not sure on the accuracy of the #'s as I did not speak to the TA. If you want to be 100% confident in the #'s I would suggest calling the TA directly.
I do not know where the 23 million comes into play. That was very alarming to me as well. I was under the impression that ~450 million was used for convertibles leaving 550 million more to issue. Originally I thought the idea was to use those remaining shares for endorsements and such. I think a good portion was used in the Avanzar deal which I like. I don't know what the rest was used on...Hopefully production and advertisements, but that is pure speculation. I was thinking there was still a couple 100 million shares left in the A/S after you account for convertibles.
Someone with a lot more knowledge of the history of the share structure can probably shed a lot more light on it.
Peafunke,
Thanks for that info. I have read it numerous times and I agree that we can not "sound the alarms" yet. However, if we are only 23 million from that time, that could very well be tomorrow or it may never happen...we all need to be very aware of the danger though.
Oh, gotcha. Sorry I struck a nerve. I guess it depends on the definition of Strong! To me it is not defined by a %. It is defined by hard #'s. I don't give a crap if my account increased 1-2% today, I want to know a $ amount. That being said, 35 million more dumped on us Loyal shareholders may not be "Strong Dilution" to you sir, but it is very "strong" to me. GLTA
Because everyone may not see it. What is everyone trying to hide? OS increased by 35 million...is this not important for investors of MINE to know?
What %? Is that how we are going to attack the dilution questions now? The % is so small because we have an astronomically high share structure as is. There are still 35 million more shares today available to trade then yesterday. This is 35 million shares pumpers will try to get investors to buy so they can dump their shares into the market, this is 35 million more shares flippers can flip giving the pumpers an "out" saying share price is falling because of flippers. This is 35 million more that bashers can continue to hang their hat on by CORRECTLY calling the dilution and the justification of their prediction of a falling share price.
Now, where did those come from? Also, what is meant by only 20+ million left? Is this all that is left of the A/S that aren't used to cover preferred's? If so this is very scary time...Will the A/S need to be increased again so management can continue to dump on the shareholders and then state it is in the best interest of the company and us shareholders to do this so investors will continue to give while not receiving OR will they finally end the dilution and start letting the share price breathe?
I get that many of you "longs" are only here to flip your shares into the buyers you are yelling to buy....I get the "slap the ask" and the "buy the dips" comments, but many new investors come to this board for help...you are doing anything but helping with a buy recommendation right now. This has been in a steady downtrend. The Bashers may actually be helping more then the pumpers right now.
Would you please STOP with the scare tactics? It is getting extremely old and tiresome to see the board cluttered with the same BOLD crap for weeks on end!
My take on the "sponsorship" is that the gentleman is a fan of VF and asked to sponsor it. I doubt it is anything that is costing MINE large sums of assets if any. What I like about it is the area's they race. Any cheap exposure is good...this guy probably won't be a national/international sensation, but remember the current target audience is S. Cali and NY. I would venture to guess most his races are in S. Cali. Saturate the market and get cheap exposure we all should be ok with that. I have not done any DD on any of this yet, this is just a guess.
Why the animosity? Do you not have the same concerns? Do you all not find it a bit concerning that SS who screams to "SLAP THE ASK" has met most the powers that be at Minerco? Is it not "odd" that he wanted to keep track of everyone's buys? Yes, SS has been around since January 2013. This does not make him any more or less then you or I, but do you all not have the same concerns? I get that you did your DD and that you are ok with the company...I am to right now, but that does not mean I will standby and not question someone when It blatantly appears that there is motive. That goes for Bashers and pumpers! Is it not a bit odd that he is doing the same thing on the TEMN site as here? Vanis is on that board as well...I don't know SS's relationship with Vanis or anyone else, but he has met them and it seems pretty "fishy." IS NONE OF THIS ODD TO ANYONE ELSE? Maybe SS is exactly who he described himself to be, but I have my own opinion!
GLTA
I would like to hear from the CEO when times warrant it! You can look at any of my posting history (although not long) and I have never (that I can remember) asked for news or a PR. I completely understand letting the people on the ground do their work...HOWEVER, this is a time when our "leader" the CEO needs to address this without some fluff newsletter.
A few months ago a shareholder could email the company re: anything and get a response in a timely manner. However, now that they have bled this group of investors try getting an email returned. It is starting to become very "odd" what is happening and like it or not almost every "basher" of this stock has been 100% correct and every pumper of this stock has been 100% wrong. No biggie though...we all make our own decisions and I can live with mine. This is play money for me, but after following this board and seeing the manipulation that so many on both sides of the tape try to play on LOYAL shareholders it is pitiful.
With that said, I will hold onto my "Bag" which is quite large until we all sink or swim. I won't be donating another dollar to the company as I don't think any person should until we get answers and see revenue. Their is a big monkey in the room and it is dilution (what 700 shares till able to be dumped) and R/S. As much as longs and pumpers (not putting the two in the same boat)don't want to admit it, these are going to be two very telling "obstacles" the next few months.
GLTA
Another day and red again! Seriously...25% down currently and still not a single word from Vanis to his "loyal shareholders!"
People are asking...what else can he say? Well, he can start buy explaining the shares that have been dumped on the market. We can speculate about share structure from T/A and also about notes coming due, but do we really truly know if the shares are from converted debt or from the company? Again...without speculating I don't know that we can.
How about addressing the r/s? It was easy to say there are no plans for it 6 months ago when the stock was trading so much higher and there were still plenty of shares being gobbled up, but now that share price is down so far it may be even more enticing to someone who is trying to take advantage of shareholders. I am not saying he is taking advantage of us quite yet, but I am sure leaning towards him taking full advantage of our loyalty then him looking out for our best interest.
Also, why do I consistently see quotes from context taken months ago? Is it possible that they used this to excite shareholders? Of course we can say Vanis has a reputation on the line, but you or I haven't met or know Vanis (with the exception of SS which still has me questioning his role.) You think Vanis taking advantage of a bunch of small time shareholders will really hurt his reputation in his peers eyes? He can r/s this to death and nobody will give a crap about an investor who put $1 to work or $40K to work. It will go away like every other OTC stock in the history of OTC's.
I am not here to say any of this is happening, but I am not here to pump sunshine when it is NOT OK to continually let your stock price plummet without a single word from the CEO. No sunshine from him, just cold hard facts.
Jesus...can we quit blaming the "dump" on bashers and longs selling because of bashers please? People need to understand that many Investors are smart...using these excuses for the drop in pps is a slight towards all longs. Why don't we loyal shareholders just admit to being dumped on currently. Very few of us could "move the needle" upward/downward to get any significant price action by making certain trades. At least to the point this pps has moved.
We are going to see further price movement downward in the coming days and weeks. Maybe even months. Vanis has shown absolutely zero loyalty to shareholders. He has not once come out and spoke on the pps action. Why is it moving downward so significantly? What are the shares being dumped? I know some of his eyes and ears on here will read this. Ask your boy Vanis why he hasn't shown the same loyalty to shareholders that we have shown him? He knows what is being said...he knows what is speculated. If he truly cared about you or I he would address these issues head on like a leader should do.
Problem with this (him speaking to shareholders) is he does not have to. He already got you once you invested and now the price has dropped so significantly you can not do anything about it but hope. Good news is there is a small glimmer of hope...if everything goes as planned and they quit dumping on loyal shareholders then maybe the price action will correct and revenues will start stimulating growth. Fortunately, if they don't dump more shares on us we should start seeing revs soon.
IMO I would not buy another share until Vanis proves to us shareholders that he isn't just taking advantage of us. No reason to buy when there is no end to the dumping in site.
GLTA
Bravo on your projections and assumptions. Very well thought out opinion and I agree with a lot of it. I thank you for your input.
Thank you SS...I appreciate the insight and good luck to you on everything. I look forward to the day we actually get to meet and again, I appreciate all you do for the board. I hope for everyone's benefit this company is as good and loyal to us shareholders as we have been to them although they owe us nothing.
Unfortunately, I do not have PM (maybe in time.) Again, thank you.
I agree with you that SS has done a very good job of keeping shareholders informed on Mine and his personal thoughts/opinions.
I only ask the question: If he has a personal/business relationship with Mine the same as many ask the bashers what their motive is. I am simply asking his motive? No need to answer, I just like all to be transparent as I have asked bashers in past posts as well. Of course I never get an answer from bashers and that is fine as well.
I also agree that everyone should do their own DD and formulate their own opinion. I...as stated have done enough DD to make a decision to invest assets in this startup. I very much like the product and the company, but lately there comes to light some questions we all should have and it all has to do with the continuing drop in pps and how they (Mine) is going to continue getting assets to sustain any growth?
I would like to believe that the A/S will never have to increase again...I would like to believe that revenues from previous sales will begin to trickle in and support future growth. However, that $7 million over the next two years is very frightening and hope you are correct that this is just from Avanzar sales. If that is the case this is a very good positive outlook.
I appreciate all insight...sorry if I ruffle any feathers of the loyal shareholders or bashers.
That is a very good sign for the company. It does show forward growth and a commitment to the company to get the job done. However, At what expense? Vanis has absolutely crapped on the shareholder and I fully expect him to do it again.
Let me ask this...how much of the $1 billion A/S increase is still available? I don't remember exact numbers and don't want to go look them up so if anyone knows off the top of their head thank you in advance, but wasn't ~425 million held over to cover preferred's? How many have now been added to the O/S? This is an honest question...the reason I ask is what happens when they need more money? They obviously can't sell shares they do not have...do they increase A/S again?
Future...thank you for your insight. Although I am on the opposite side of the coin as you (as far as optimism is concerned,) I do very much appreciate the insight.
You would expect? You mean you hope? Vanis and this company EXPECT revenues to be $7million for Vitafizz! This is F'ing horrible! They have dumped 2.8 billion shares on Loyal shareholders and this is what we get? $7 million over the next 24 months?
SS (if you don't mind?) who the hell are you anyways and what is your relationship to this company? I live in KC (Johnson county actually) and would love to meet up and pick your brain. I know there is/was a twitter beef between you and some loyal Mine holders and also bashers over what they "knew" about you. I would like to understand who it is that I am being fed DD from. I am sure many others would as well. Just seems odd that someone can commit themselves to a message board like a full time job and finds himself promoting Vanis stocks.
Let me make it clear...I do not base an opinion on any one persons DD or posts, but I do look into the DD presented to see if it seems accurate and I can use to formulate an opinion along with all the other DD I have gathered or have been shared with. I am a Mine shareholder (for now) and have been in about as long as the next guy...I still really want to believe in this company, but the company is making it really hard to believe. Words are just that, but financials are tell all. This "startup" is looking very bad right now.
Ok, enough is enough. I get all the hate for the "bashers" of any stock, but the sunshine pumping here has got to stop! It is plain in the text and should ring alarms all over. It has been brought to a few of you "pumpers" a few times now and the only response is "EXPONENTIAL GROWTH." Did you all read? $2milly in revenue in 2015 and $5milly in 2016 of vitaminfizz? Seriously? This is absolutely atrocious numbers if true...then compared to $26 million in expenses. So the $26 million in EXPONENTIAL GROWTH is going to bring us $7 million in revenue in the next 24 months? Am I reading this correctly?
I am a very hard critic on pumpers and bashers, yet I give all an equal say in my book as long as facts are presented. When facts are presented from one side, it is ignored by the other. Facts are facts and this stock is a POS currently and until they get share structure cleaned up and start producing real revenue resulting in actual net income that they can use to sustain the company instead of diluting at the expense of the shareholders, this stock will remain in a downward spiral.
You want to know why this stock is in the tank? It has absolutely nothing to do with "Panic selling" as many would lead you to believe, but 99% caused by the conversion of debt and the share structure being diluted on so often the past 3 months. T
To be honest with you all, I am more on the side of Pristine and the bashers who say that we will see a reverse split at the expense of the "loyal shareholders" and a continuing pattern of downward pps movement like all other P&D's. $7 million projected for the next 24 months of VFizz sales...Jesus! Now, have at me...
SS seriously tell us shareholders why the hell they would be increasing O/S constantly if they have so much of the LOC left? That tells me one thing...they are diluting and taking complete advantage of the "Loyal Shareholder." Am I seeing this wrong? Why else constantly raise O/S? I thought those share were going to endorsers, spokesman, celebrity, etc.? Let me guess, we will raise A/S again in a few months and company will claim we will need these assets for same thing right? Tired of the ACT...this is a results driven business and results are not being shown and we have a management team that won't even speak to their shareholders.
mjbaker do you have a twitter? I used to play protection in sports. They were in our league.
I don't have pm on ihub, but I make it to Wichita at least once a month.
Like the price action on $MINE today. Be nice to see another production run announcement and new distributor maybe in N. California.
You are correct...I actually know the Dillon family pretty well and are great people. I wish they would have held on to their chain, but can't fault them for selling. Dillon's are very nice grocery store chain and they are all throughout KS and in many small towns.
I know that sells in Small towns are not great, but I will tell you it all adds up. My family are farmers in Western KS. As most farm families I know we buy everything in bulk. The pallets you see people buying of Fizz is comparable to what our garage's look like with Powerade, gatorade, vitaminwater, etc, during the summer. We can't keep the stuff in stock...coolers full and we give it to anyone and everyone. I will tell you as soon as it becomes available in our area, I will have Fizz in the coolers for everyone to enjoy. You may ask why I don't do this now...I have shared with many people back in the rural parts, but farm communities do not buy there goods off the internet...they go to Dillon's and buy. They go to Sam's and buy in bulk. In due time it will come.
Tat...I agree with you as well that the Buck by summer "pumpers" do little good as well. I block both pumpers and bashers. I have yet to block you (not that you care,) but why is it so hard to provide the board with "insight?" If you believe it will go to .004 why is that? Same goes for the $.10 club. I see many many posters provide great DD and reasoning behind their posts, but never a basher. All I have seen from a basher is BOLD all caps lettering stating false misleading info. People claim dilution...maybe there is, but show it!
This is a stock investors board for Minerco...I don't know why it is so hard to back up claims for everyone benefit to "look into."
KUliquid, SS, BadHemper, and so many more provide great insight for those investors/potential investors to make a somewhat informed decision.
I firmly believe this stock is way undervalued at current pps based off future outlook. That is why I invested in this penny stock and why I invest in many different companies. I don't care what MINE has done, I want to know what MINE is going to do. I am not into predictions and time frames other then I think in 6 months I am going to be very happy with buying at these levels. I base this off a lot of DD investors on this board have provided and DD I have done on my own.
Good luck to you and all the others reading this board...must have an interest to be a part of it!
Miner's listen...put Pitman, Darkknight, and whoever else who are obviously just here to bash without any support on IGNORE! I did it when I first started posting and it is so much better. Only time I see that they are still around is when someone responds to them which is what they want. I am not saying just listen to the positive posters either...keep those that back up there concerns with facts and surround yourself with DD.
Mine is going to be ok...we are going to get more distribution deals, Amazon Prime, rid the toxic debt, and slowly expand across this country and beyond! Oh, Celebrity will come, Print and tv advertising, etc...so much to look forward to. I don't even care what the price is currently...I care what it will be in 2 years! I'll continue to accumulate these cheapies
Great day Ladies and Gentlemen...congrats to those Longs and flippers who have been buying these incredibly low shares up.
With the great day going, I would warn many to be careful of over the top expectations in the short term. Flippers still have a very strong grip on this and I would expect some profit taking. The great thing about this stock is as frustrating as the flippers and shorters make it in the short term, we longs gain more and more hold of the float each dip. We know what this company is capable of doing and Long term we should be rewarded handsomely.
I mentioned a few weeks back that I expect Huge things by end of the year...Personally, this is the best PR I have read yet from this company. PR's with hard numbers are all I ask for. There was no fluff in this PR...10K cases sold of 15K produced. 2nd production run already under way with all 6 flavors. Amazon did not sell 10K cases...I doubt they sold much more then 1000 cases. This means that these "1 truck" (right bashers) distributors are getting product on shelves for the public.
THC I mentioned that I thought it was going to make the shelves earlier then expected. From digging and speaking with folks, I was pretty confident that the product was all but completed (ingredients, packaging.) So what could be holding it up? Red tape, distribution deal, state/federal laws, etc...However, I just have a feeling Vanis and the company are working behind the scenes to get this to the public.
I wish I could provide any relevant info, but right now I have nothing new. Wanted to stop in and Say hi and also, has anyone heard from ChiDoc?
Yea, I do not know if it is really that telling, but something did bring up a past conversation I had with a person who seems "in touch" with Mine and Powerbrands...
I was talking about share structure and the conversation turned to celebrity endorsement. I asked something about with 1/2 billion (after the A/S are put away to cover preferred's) could it be possible that there is more then 1 celebrity in the works? The person was not real definitive and just sounded very careful with his wording. He said we (shareholders) should not expect numerous celebrity endorsers unless is was a "group" like a band or something. Never really thought a lot of it until today when twitter was blowing up and vitaminfizz was tweeting one direction and band mate Liam (sp.) I know who one direction is, but I do not really know the individuals by name. I started thinking back to that conversation and speculation began. Obviously I then noticed that they are starting to reach out to numerous "stars" and it is more then likely me just looking way too much into something, but thought it was still interesting none the less.
With the speculation aside, I like the fact that they are reaching out to a wider audience tweeting to celebrities. Social networking can reach so many people so quickly...I am starting to get really excited, I just feel something big is going to happen in the coming week(s.)
Patience pays Mine'rs...
Ok, couldn't wait...
We popped the bottles on our first Strawberry VF! Guys...read my other posts. I am not sugar coating anything and will continue to report on what others think, but this is going to be unstoppable once it hits the market and is introduced to the masses. I could drink a VF every day and will be ordering a case of each flavor today. The three employees who all tried it (one a sparkling ice drinker) all are very impressed and are going to take a few bottles home to have family members try and report back to me. They already asked me where they can buy from...Prime better get here quick on amazon ;)
My take on VF...completely blew me away. I don't know what I was expecting, but it was not this. VF is very refreshing and does not have a horrible after taste. Somebody comment earlier about it comparing to gatorade. I could side with the low calorie gatorade..it does not overwhelm you with flavor, but enough to definitely distinguish itself.
Keep yelling TIMBER and OVERPRICED cause I am bringing more money to the table and new investors. We can all buy in together at low prices. If the rollout runs smooth and advertising picks up I can see this in a couple other MAJOR markets soon and the snowball will begin. Good luck to ALL
Shipment Received:
My thoughts...
CB - It is nothing what I was expecting and am very pleased with the product. I guess I was expecting more of a creamer type flavor and substance much like the coffeemate creamers you can get at your local grocery. I just received my packet of products so I immediately tried CB straight up and non chilled. I do like the flavor...has a coffee with French vanilla taste to it, who would have thought? I am chilling a few bottles to have on hand and will keep some at room temp to have for my coffee. It complements a cup of coffee very well...It doesn't significantly add the flavor to the coffee, but does give it a "hint" of the French Vanilla taste. Of course the coffee I put it in this morning is not a good tasting coffee to begin with, but it is better with the CB. Now...it has been ~15 minutes since I took the first hit of CB. I will tell you that I am already feeling a bit of "alertness" I did not have earlier. I have been spending long hours at the office the past 3 weeks and I have been dragging in the morning. This is a true testimonial..no sugar coat. I would not buy this product consistently from amazon. I would continue to buy it from them, but if/when in stores I will have it in stock in the office and at my home. I will carry it in my vehicle for trips (especially to the farm in western ks.) Believe me...if farmers got a hold of this for their coffee you would see an exponential increase in sales and in production from the farmers :) Not buying from amazon is not a diss on the product, I just do not buy things from amazon much.
The watermelon VF is in the fridge chilling to have a taste test with a couple of the office employees later. I will report back on what they have to say. One gal is a pop drinker because she claims she needs energy in the morning. I give her crap cause of the "harm" she is doing to herself and hopefully the CB will give her that boost, but CF will provide her with an alternative drink instead of POP. She does not drink any flavored waters...
The other employees are mainly fathers/mothers with families which I think is the perfect demographic for this product. As someone mentioned...this is a perfect product to put in your kids school lunch. I drink bottled water religiously...if it wasn't for tea I would not drink anything other then bottled water. I don't drink milk, pop, occasionally a monster energy, but for the most part only water. I am hoping that I really like the CF. I will be honest...the thing that turned me onto this company and investing in it was this product. If VF is a water I can stand...I will buy and market to everyone I know. I am not a health nut, but how could you go wrong if it taste good and provides vitamins.
Sorry for the rant...good luck to all! Yes, even you Pittman, Iloveballs, and the other bashers...in the end we are all trying to get invested...some just take alternative routes to get the price they want; )