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~ Correct' There's Nothing For The K's, ... Only The Original Released WMI P's and WMI Commons Are Financially Trackable ~
K's didn't make it ... and the PIERS already got paid, just earlier than expected'
~ Santa (with some COOP reinvested profit help) Brought ol' cactus a New CT5 this year' (2023) another blk/blk of course ... it looks good next to the C-8, from last years Santa delivery ... throw away that swill rice-wine pikky', pliss, loodaz', & company' ... that pzzzz water uz' drink over there ... and enjoy some Extra Fine Whiskey' ... It's The Holidays' Ho, Ho, Ho, ... B-Happy' ~
just sayin'
AZ
~ Howdy' ... sorry but u'll never get past the screener' ... LOL' ... limited information (& - iq'?) leads to cowboy's time wasted' ... or is that waisted' ? ? LOL ~
... oh and for the record, ... I'm being confused with another' regarding the Judge Colyer DC Dual Track result' ... a few present' and have that result all wrong, just like the retained earnings issue ... But ? to each his own ... (why so nasty all of the time ?) ... Ho, Ho, Ho,
1st, the dual track was settled' ... and 2nd, ... chapter 11's don't reorganize with any retained earnings' listed or withheld' ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ Thanks Brother Boris' ... Yep she's purty ! ! ... just swapped out the CTS for a brand new 23' CT5 blk/blk again ... And Thanks for the compliment on the sceamin' eagle stage one Harley ... Appreciated' ~
Happy Holidays'
AZ
~ ... COOP ? ... Well COOP ... Is Merely The 2018' Renamed Acquired Subsidiary Grouping ~
time for some Holiday egg-nog ! ! ... hold the milk & eggs though, ... ! ! ... just the Jameson and 2 cubes' will do nicely for ol' cactus ...
Ho, Ho, Ho ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ Hey Brother Boris ! ! Happy Holidays To You and Yours As Well ~
... It's Easy To Hang Tough On This Investment' When One Has Kept Up with what has gone on' As "WE" Have ... Ho, Ho, Ho ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ LOL' pickky & company from sum' foreign kand ... Give Me ONE Good Reason To Do That ?, ... Just One ? ... ~
4-u ? ? ? ... that's hilarious, ... uve' never kept anything straight to date ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ Definitely NOT an expert' LOL ... Just A Bad Liar(s) ~
LOL' ... and here come's the other ... loooodddasssss' the fan installer LOL' ... where's the other two ? ... plisss & picky
just sayin'
AZ
~ Agreed, And Well Done "WW", A Much Better Explanation Than I Ever Did' Over Time', ... Yep, I Used The Term "Tracking Markers" For Many Years, Simply Because The Release Submissions Portraying Ones Original Ownership of the Reorganized WMI Holding Company, Were "MAINTAINED" By The "INDIVIDUALS BROKER" That The "RELEASE TO PARTICIPATE" Were Actually Submitted To', PLUS The Attached Necessary W-9 ~
... And Yes' ... Many of us have known' for a very long time' ... Happy Holidays' ... Thanks Again'
just sayin' :) :) :)
AZ
~ "SMH", JPM WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY of DIDDLY'. ... JPM was included in the (7) Release' ~
... in the early days, JPM was allowed to be an intervenor in the GSA only, but never exercised that right' ... the GSA was settled between WMI and the FDIC ... that's how I remember things ...
anyhew' ... confusion abounds' ... how about using a few FACTS with all of that professed, self righteous ... "common sense" ? ... hmmmmmmm ?
BUT ? It's Christmas ! ! ... :) :) :) ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ Wow' ... This' last settled dispute of the original five disputes ! ! sure looks like ("LBHI") and Class 10' to me ~
"At the recent hearing, Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. ("LBHI") advanced arguments that its entitlement to principle on the PLC Sub-Debt ranks ahead" ... etc. etc. etc.
"LBHI Advanced Arguments That Its Entitlement To Principle" ...
I'm not listening to anyone' ... just reading the information is all ! ! ... Secret Waivers' ? (LBHI and the Plan Administrators) ... and now, an eighth distribution announcement ? ... within two months of 11/21/2023'
https://www.pwc.co.uk/services/business-restructuring/administrations/non-lbie-companies/lbh-plc-in-administration.html
and;
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173300619
and of course;
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173220104
just sayin'
AZ
~ Oh' ! ! ... Nice CottonBall ... Thanks, I Didn't Think Things Would "boogie" Until Jan 2024 (ish) For Taxation Issues' ~
"The Joint Administrators’ receipts and payments account from the commencement of the
Administration on 15 September 2008 to 17 November 2023"
"Payments are being made commencing on or around 23 November 2023"
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173302002
just sayin'
AZ
~ Thanks Brother' ... Ya Jus Gotta Luv The "Secret Waiver" Active Through June 2023 ... LBHI Won' ~
... Initially 5 Disputes in Litigation, whittled down to just the 1 ... and now ? done' and done' ...
... Class 10 ... as announced, distribution within 2 months of 11/21/2023 ... oooooooo' baby ... LBHI actually Won' ... the a's don't get to keep everything !
Classes 11 and 12 are equity positions that will participate in the Plans Implementation and the remaining NOL's consideration ...
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173300619
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173220104
just sayin' :)
AZ
~ BUMP' ... There's no more need' to count on' ? argue' ? or depend on' anyone's postings or opinions ! ! ~
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173220104
~ Thank You ! ! ... Happy Thanksgiving To You ... ~
AZ
~ So What ? ... take a nap then' ... LOL ... or, Maybe ? Try Posting Something WMIH Relevant ? (yeah, that'll be the day LOL) ~
Just another judgmental narcissist thinking that they own the discussion ... LOL ... Nope
AZ
~ Yep, I Know JUST EXACTLY Who and What You Are Also ~
AZ
~ You Are Welcome ... COOP is Humorous as a mere "Registrant" ... With all that is current' ... Profit was available from the single digits to above $50.00 quite awhile ago now ... I took what I wanted out of this dog' ~
the only liars and twisters are here' along with a few JPM subcontractors and lacky's ... ask u'r bud
... Divi's from a servicing sub ? ... Nope Not Hardly'
AZ
~ OK' ... the 2023 COOP 10-K will reveal if anything is to occur in 2024 ... in the same fashion as the WMI 2007 10-K did ... Have a nice Holiday ~
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173277806
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173270344
The Holding Company "COULD NOT HAVE" Reorganized showing that it had "Retained ANY Earnings" ... ridiculous ! !
just sayin'
AZ
~ Thanks Woody', Was That Question For Me ?, Since as always, there's an irrelevant interruption from the filthy and judgmental pm sender ! ! ~
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173270344
At the WMI Plans Implementation' back in 2012, for the WMI Holding Company' ... There were no retained earnings "able to be" listed associated with the Holding Company which makes a mockery of those' that continue with this pipe dream and the 75/25 ratios of distribution. ... regarding the Feb MOR ... it doesn't exist
All of the assets and Cash generated were separated from the Holding Company ...
Bank of America believes this as well ...
AZ
~ Interesting Stuff' @ @ ... the WMI / WMIH / COOP Preferred Managing Sub ~
the same sub that paid KKR' it's 3% cash $18m quarterly coupon and was used to Pay Off the Run-Off Notes in 2018 ... and ... WAS NOT EMPTY' nor has it been dissolved
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WAMKQ Washington Mutual Inc. FRP 9/18/2006 OTC Non-Cum WR NR 939322830 9/15/2008 500 Non-Trust Hybrid/Adjustable Rate
NA Washington Mutual Preferred Funding 7.250% 3/7/2006 EUROMTF Non-Cum WR NR USG9463GAA60 NA 750 Euro Preferred
https://www.investireoggi.it/forums/attachments/2013-10-18-bofa-ml-preferred-securities-quarterly-guide-pdf.287782/
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"K's" = Non-Trust Hybrid ... (sorry guys, but NO "K" Trust SUPPORT)
"P's" = Euro Preferred ... the precedent has now been set' ! !
original released WMI commons, ... uq's ... STILL' ... own the Reorganized Holding Company ... the mr cooper group is merely an acquired sub' group ... currently being used as a mere "registrant"
... uq's and P's ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ Applying The LBHI "Secret Waiver" agreement to the History of the Forward Moving Numbers' ... I'm finding "Intriguing ! !" to say the least ~
especially the text that reveals the forward moving divi's cannot be calculated' ... LOL' ... ya think ? ... (Statutory Interest)
oh', and the Plan Administrators DO NOT have to consider any late filed claims' ... paraphrasing, but it's in there ... the defined' 11/21/2023 date as stated in 8', was a mere formality in my opinion' ...
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173220104
So, ... ? ... Two Months from Tuesday' ... that's what it says anyway' :)
just sayin'
AZ
~ Yep', This Took Awhile ... In My Opinion, The "Statutory Interest" That Has Accumulated' ! ! ! Was and Is Enough To "Argue Over" ... Thankfully LBHI and The Joint Administrators "AGREED" With This Ol' Cowboy : ) : ) ... on that' $ $ $ $ ... and placed the "Secret Waiver" on the process ... Anyway' ~
Have A Nice Holiday Season ... a January release also follows responsible IRS suggestions', for withheld funds ...
just sayin'
AZ
(Oh PS., I liked the comparative between 7 & 8 that you posted ... thanks)
~ It's All OK CottonBall !, ... Even Ms Hilliard (Representing LB GP No 1) ... On the Transcript Record Was Upset That LBHI and The Joint Administrators Had Made A Private Deal' ... (good through June) ... That She Was NOT Informed Of' ... ~
~ COOP' ? ... or ooooo ! ... I guess I hit a nerve huh ? ... is an ?' ouch ?' in order' ... LOL nope', Not Really ! ! ! ~
well at least u don't send me judgmental, filthy pm's that disrespect my military service and my family' ... comparatively, u'r not nearly as bad as that one', or the name calling sidekick'
goin to a birthday party this weekend, I'll tell doreeen u said hi'
just sayin'
AZ
~ Thanks, But I'm Quite Good ! ... I took out the single digit WMIH / COOP' pps purchases, to the rise to $50 (ish) COOP' profit' way back in 2021', I kept some' but nowhere near what I had' :) ... ~
I'm more of a 2018 and forward kind of investor these days regarding COOP' (the registrant') ... and' ... I like my continued Ownership of the original Preferred Managing Sub (original released P's) ... and my ownership of the "reorganized" WMI Holding Company (originally released commons as uq's) ...
... have your fun' ... none of yooozzzz bother me' ... not in the least ! ! ! ... (the statutory interest precedent setting ruling has now been established' ... BOOOOOYAAAA )
"Abba Da Ayy"
AZ
~ The 7 PMI Insurers, Had ZERO To Do With The 17 Trusts' ... LOL' D-U-H------- loooodasssss ~
there's a significant difference between reading and comprehension ! !
just a waist of time' ... or is that a waste LOL
just sayin' :)
AZ
~ Hello, and Yes I'm Fine Thank You ! ... My CT's are as well (I hold all Four, diversified between TWO (diligently maintained) Broker's) ... LBHI was the, Now Successful ! ... "Claimant" ... ~
The argument was over the Statutory Interest, that has been accumulating :) :) :) ... it heated up back in March, ... and was ruled upon October 9th and 10th (sealed) ... Again, LBHI was successful !
... Just Remember, ... the Document States, within TWO Months of 11/21, putting the receipt of release smack dab into 2024's taxing year ! ! ... 01/21/2024
Study !
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173220104
Have A Nice Day ! ...
AZ
~ you're not using the correct or actual' link' that I posted' ... and' ... LBHI is the claimant and has already been successful ... the information posted tells the complete sequencing ~
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173220104
just sayin'
AZ
~ Simplified and Hopefully Helpful to All ! ! ... So, the last date to file a claim is listed as 21 November 2023 ... That is what is being referred to as the last date for proving' within the text' ... So, within two months of the last date for "proving" ... or 11/21/2023' ~
The Letter ... 25 October 2023
https://www.pwc.co.uk/business-recovery/administrations/lehman/lbh-8th-intention-dividend_october.pdf
~ Yepperini', That Is Just Exactly What The Letter Says' ... There's no need' to count on' or depend on' anyone's postings or opinions ! ! ~
~ The Letter ... 25 October 2023 ~
https://www.pwc.co.uk/business-recovery/administrations/lehman/lbh-8th-intention-dividend_october.pdf
just sayin'
AZ
~ whatever' IDC ... k ? ... Things are fine here' by ol' cactus, ... and they will getting even better ! ! ... coop ain't shheeeet anymore' ... the single digit pps and up' ride ended' ... coop's merely a sub and registrant' ... I'm waiting for the big dog; ... soon ~
twist, post, & bash away ... and no judgmental filthy pm' ... k' ? ... IDC bout that either
later'
AZ
~ Nice' twist' of the words and thanks' for a "continued" reveal of who you are' ... simply another twister' ... as I've stated, original WMI released P's are directly aligned with the Preferred Managing Sub as stated numerous times, and again, the WMI released uq' as the original commons, are the releasing owners of the original Holding Company ... shhhhh' which is NOT COOP' ... shhhhhh' coop's merely a sub LOL~
ADDED, ... just read the release that was signed' ... instead of posting incorrect info'
AZ
~ ... NO' ... Confused and continued Miss information ... those distribution mechanics, were only regarding the wmi-lt', ... which is completed and over ... ~
the GSA was specifically ONLY between WMI and the FDIC' ... JPM was court allowed to be an intervenor, however JPM NEVER exercised that right, ... JPM never found it necessary to intervene in the settlement' ... loudazz, has never read it' the GSA, and simply twists' information ... LOL ... Plan 7's directives were simple IMO ... Release' to participate, as the Holding Company reorganized' ~
just sayin'
AZ
~ Hello ND9', I hope you and yours are doing well ! ! ... I have zero doubt regarding the WMI' originally released P's preferred owners, and the released uq's as the owners of the original Holding Company ! ! ... their formidable process has been trackable ~
just sayin'
AZ
~ Correct, as directed by rossssie', DL's actions regarding my WMB Bond holdings and Direct Ownership, is the reason of a direct deposit from the Trustee' into my account ... yeppers, Feb 2023, then July 2023, and Feb 2024 coming up quickly' ... WMB Bonds are a semi-annual, continued servicing by, (shhhhhh), doesn't matter ~
"it is what it is" ... the system works' ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ WMI's to WMIH's, the "Preferred Managing Sub" ... "P series continued earnings" ... financially utilized and viewable, through 2018 ... WAS NOT EMPTIED after the appropriate cash payments had been shown to be made, NOR Dissolved. ~
Eventual returns to the Plan 7' releasing WMI P' holders is obvious ...
Eventual returns to the Plan 7' ... WMI Common Share releasing owners is obvious ...
no arguments or debates from ol' cactus on these documented issues' ... it's all placed within the SEC filings
... I just don't believe in all of the 75/25 continued ratios of distribution, the nutttttzoooo numbers, as well as any secret trusts ... (and yes, DL is a friend of mine, cw-g is lying)
just sayin'
AZ
~ LOL' ... symbol "COOP" represents merely a subsidiary group', simply being used as a "registrant" for a much larger dog' ~
Ray Barone:
That's the restaurant where the crazy old Chinese lady yells at you while you're leaving, right ?
Debra Barone:
You know what she's yelling, right ?
Ray Barone:
Yeah, "haba na dah!" ... "Abba Da Ayy" ... ? ...
Debra Barone:
She's saying, "Have a nice day."
Ray Barone:
Oh.
[pause]
Ray Barone:
Well, maybe she isn't crazy.
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it's this particular circus arena that's generally "crazy" ... (ol' cactus subliminal messaging LOL)
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Lies and Always More Continued Lies' ... My Posts Are Always Twisted ? ... Yeppers, I Already Know "Why" ... the big G' ... our CEO', already splained it' ! ! !
The reorganized company's $50.00 pps was a requirement to be IN A POSITION To Utilize The Debt Structure' ... Get Educated and Get Wealthy Like Ol' Cactus already is' ... "whole" (s) plural' ... LOL'
and where's that filthy' judgmental lying pm sender ?, ... a waste ? or a waist ? ... LOL'
just sayin'
AZ
~ Thanks' ... I'm good and I hope you and yours are as well ! ! ~
your quote / post is accurate'
“Assets of the assets are not part of the Agreements.” My understanding of that is the money from the assets are not part of the bankruptcy.
too many coffee', wmi-lt, secret trusts, etc.etc.etc. clownish' distractions ...
Have A Nice Day
AZ