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It's completely different- remember where we started. If the lien did exist (as I said I would have to review the court documents) any revenue generated would then also be in dispute. Oh hell I'm talking about legitimate companies. I'm not sure if any of these even qualify.
That analogy is completely different that the lien situation we were discussing.
Tob - the addition you made isn't valid anywhere in the world. The right amount of money in the right hands trumps anything else. That is just the way it is.
If you don't believe it think about many of the arguments being made here whether legit or not. Could the naked short argument be made if someone wasn't supposedly making a lot of money?
Could congress trade on inside information if they weren't making a lot of money?
Could pump and dumps even exist if a lot of people weren't making a lot of money?
Why can a TA be gagged?--It benefits someone!
Tob the main problem with liens is that many can't be enforced UNTIL a property is being sold. That is why I stated my opinion. Title companies exist to make sure a clear title is being transferred to avoid future problems. Any company guaranteeing a clear title when one does not exist could suffer large financial damages.
Tob my premise was based on the argument being presented on the board. I will have to review the documents (link) to determine if any liens apply.
The problem you have with that is the fact that (as you pointed out in earlier posts today) THE FINAL judgement has not been made. The final judgement has not been made due to appeals still going on.
Please explain to me how land that is in dispute can be sold to another party before that dispute has been settled. There would be no clear title that could be transferred. I have worked construction for 30 years. A future contract can't be settled until any liens on a property have been cleared up.
grego- you make this argument about BGL but ignore the exact same circumstances with SRGE.
How can that possibly make sense?
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more bgl propaganda...nothing credible comes from bgl or it's website...nothing from bgl is PROOF of anything.
The SEC has stated they have problems with SRGE and the information they put out. I think the SEC having problems with information is a little more credible than an IHUB poster not believing something.
I don't know what you can't comprehend about the followers idea. People that do quality DD such as nodummy, janice shell and others have large numbers of followers for a reason.
I also don't know why you can't comprehend the idea that I am following the technology not the company per se. As I have stated numerous times I don't currently have any shares here.
Raise all the red flags you want over and over every day. That is how you intend to save the world isn't it? LOL
I will continue to follow companies such as oil and Sapphire energy (go ahead tell Bill Gates he's nuts for working on algae) along with others in the sector.
If you can't understand why a person would follow sectors with potential I can't help you. I also won't try to change your opinion at any time.
Just gets tiring reading all your chicken little posts!
Kimble the difference between us is I am NOT trying to get followers!
But you're right about one thing the person with the ego is! Got a mirror handy?
Wow are you off base! I could care less how many followers I have but I do choose some of who I listen to based on followers.
Certain people are good with charts
Certain people from the DD board are very good with those types of DD (some with court records some with SEC laws)
I try to learn a lot from those types of people.
People that just post the same thing over and over are worthless.
As I've posted more than once---I don't own any stock here but I do want to follow any changes involving these sciences.
Researchers at the UW madison pointed me in this direction while I worked on another project with them.
I DO PUT A GREAT DEAL OF STOCK IN THEM!
Whether OOIL or another company develops useful technology I want to know about it.
But thanks for letting me know you think this is a scam.
I'm guessing that if you have done anywhere near what you have claimed you would have a whole lot more people following your advice. Pretty high opinion of yourself IMO I'm sure you done all those things all by yourself.
But keep up the great work LOL
Please find me a poster that makes thousands of posts has no followers but deserves to be given any credibility.
I honestly don't know whether this company will ever take off. BUT!!!
Even using your own argument, OOIL would be perfect if it could appeal to each cause. Whichever side is most influential at any given time would determine who gets money and preferential treatment. Being able to work with either green energy (algae) or big oil (clean waste water) could make a good base for a company.
Will it happen? Who knows!
Everyone has to admit that Riggs is good at playing the circuit. He would love to play the rising star role.
Zomniac- it could have been. I was just starting to trade and reading everything I could get my hands on just to try and sort fact from fiction in the market. As you see with SRGE and Janice has pointed out, even the SEC drops the ball once in a while. I've learned a lot and thank many for helping!
Cassandra- I agree with both you and SRV about the dumping. Having followed your crew for the last couple of years I understand how the dumping works and is done. I've learned from many of the Fraud boards posts. I just wish I could at least recall the company so I could reread the article. (whether it was true or not) Hell I can't even make the shorty argument in a stock I am stuck in because I don't believe it.
SRV I agree with you completely about the naked shorts. The article I read had to do with a company that I believe was halted due to a great number of FTD's. The SEC had set guidelines that would allow them to begin trading again but only after the FTD's were taken care of through one of a couple of options. I don't know if the company ever traded again. It's been a couple of years since I read the article. It may have been BS because I was also reading about Dendrion manipulation at the time. I thought it was counterfeit shares that caused the FTD's but I'm not sure.
tobb- if you really believe there is so much naked shorting going on, why would you believe they would ever have to cover. Naked shorting would be completely illegal -- you think they would all of a sudden have to legally cover. If there were so much naked shorting it would be longs that would be screwed not the shorts.
I read an article a while back about a company that did have an extremely large amount of phony shares in the market. Basically what happened is the company had to increase the outstanding shares to allow all the phony ones to exist. It ended up being another form of dilution. There was never a short squeeze even under that situation. I wish I could recall what company it was. Maybe someone familiar with the situation might know.
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The chart has been showing steady accumulation. What is shorty going to do?lol
Shorty--if he existed would probably be on vacation in a very nice place --- celebrating!
Compare that to where any longs are right now. Who do you really think is nervous these days?
It has nothing to do with how you explain it. Fact is neither you nor I have any idea what information Bob has accrued regarding the current property. To say they have no proven reserves is nothing more than a guess one way or another---unless of course you are privileged to have insider information about any results that have been obtained over the last few years.
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Mexico has many other problems at the moment to think about expansion at the port for one company...one that has only made 3 shipments, no proven reserves and a CEO in jail.
I didn't mention one ----you must be confused.
Posts made by a number of people make numerous references to all the problems with permitting and the mexican government itself. Maybe that is one reason the property Bob is working wasn't already being mined. A couple of years ago the "big companies" were making so much profit they were trying to figure out what to do with it. Doesn't seem like they needed additional properties with the types of governmental problems that your posts point out.
Isn't the port problem exactly the type of project the government might want to push for. Jobs, commerce, taxes or royalties. Expanding the port seems like a good idea. In fact it has been discussed many times.
lucky- The things the SEC want, are exactly what most longs hope will happen in the future anyway. We're at a crossroads here with CWRN. We all want Bob to pay his penalty and put it BEHIND him. He'll be watched more closely under threat of harsher treatment if he strays.
Now look at the net effect of all you list from the SEC.
If I'm not mistaken, the actual amount of "ill gotten gain" was not a large amount. (correct me if I'm wrong) Therefore the amount paid even with interest should be relatively easy to handle.
Saying he can't break the same laws again helps us if he follows through.
If they have been mining like the pictures have shown, he won't ever have to sell shares again. That also helps us if he follows through.
For others to say Bob can't mine. Regardless of who owns what they are stockpiling material. The quality and amount will be determined, but there is a fair amount there. Just how good of a job he has done is yet to be seen but he has achieved working mine status. Hell even if it's a scam I'd give him credit for getting the mine going. However unlike many scam companies there is a product. What percentage we as share holders own will be proven. Finding out these things is not only what we want but what we deserve.
I've made my mistakes. I'll give a second chance with a tighter leash.
I'm hoping we see the Bob we all want when he gets out. I'm also hoping he can travel to the mine as needed to run the business. It won't be much longer until we find out just what we have. I've made my mistakes. I'll give a second chance with a tighter leash.
Well how is that new exchange going for you?
I agree with Bonespurs response! That was well said!
Temeku-- you wrote that you had a change in plans but that you were going to go down in March I believe. Are you still planning on going then? I had figured it was probably going to be around the time Bob was being released. (could be way off on Bobs date)
I knew you had met him so I thought you would be one of the best people to meet him first and at least give us an opinion.
Scared of what SRGE will do? Maybe those lawsuits you were referring to will be the ones brought by people like yourself against SRGE in the future. Like the one that will be brought by shareholders that were promised a dividend but had it taken away after they posted over and over that they still had theirs. (know anyone like that?) Unfortunately those lawsuits (even though they have merit) will go nowhere. Unlike your money.
That statement all by itself shows how ridiculous the short theory is.
There were people that openly stated they would use the dividend to buy more stock. Those same people did not have the dividend taken back. Seems the company could be in trouble for trying to manipulate it's own stock by providing funds for only the staunchest supporters.
The company doesn't need to be adding to it's problems.
Pitboss- my question would be isn't that completely illegal? They paid the dividend to some people ( the chosen few) that lead this pump but did not fund it for the rest? That has to be a problem.
I'm not good with charts, but I find it strange that your "Matched buys" are lower than the " matched sells"
That might be the best exchange I have ever seen between such competing sides. Definitely a LOL.
Isn't that the normal thing to do? when a reasonable person is presented new legitimate evidence you tend to draw new conclusions. I believe that is a normal thought process isn't it?
I agree with you on many aspects as I have said. Key to me is getting all the family out of the key positions. If they want to be a part of the business fine. Positions on the board are not.
Those could be the first type of changes that could give new confidence to the stock and it's shareholders.
To be honest I don't know if he has it within himself to do it.
From what I remember his conviction prohibits him from any penny stock offering. To me that means he can't ever be involved with the issuing of any shares. If the company really does own the ore they say they do additional shares should never be needed.
There is only one way for BOB to prove himself and that is to just let his actions speak for himself.
So far that hasn't gone very well.
balihi- that is one place I don't agree with you. Do we need new management? Definitely! But they can change management all they want and never get the things done that we need to have done. We supposedly have a change at the top now -- where has that gotten us? ( notice I said supposedly)
We need the company to do what a real company does.
Take the gag off the TA
file financials
ship product
PRs are what shareholders with short term interests need. If financials are filed, any one of us would be willing to wait for quarterly information. Hell we wait for years for proof we even own a part of a legitimate company. When all doubts are erased quarterly reports would provide us all we need.
Bob is in PRISON for things he has done. If that isn't incentive enough to turn ones life around I don't know what is. If he can't do things in a legitimate manner I hope he spends a LOT more time there.
If he does what he should for himself and the rest of us I would be fine with HIM doing it.
If this company is a scam we're all screwed anyway!
balihi- while I have come to agree with a lot of the conclusions you have drawn regarding CWRN you have to admit that regardless of what the qualifications are for someone to be allowed in to Mexico, greasing the right palms trumps any other requirements. Mexico is one of the most corrupt places there is.
First of all, why would any pictures of the mine have to include Bob? Many of the ones we have seen do not include him!
Secondly, if he is allowed to enter, what difference would it make if he includes himself in those pictures. Hardly flaunting anything at all.
You mean like pulling certs, moving to a new exchange, short squeeze, massive naked shorting and on and on.
Those of course aren't rumors they have been proven many times.
All ideas offered by a guy that has a disclaimer much longer than the ones he makes fun of from Kinross and the SEC.
That makes sense RIGHT?
I agree the videos are great--- thanks for the laughs!!
P2P think about it. If they stopped answering the phone they would never be able to sell another share and this would already be in the low triple o's. They must continue the appearance as long as they have any shares to sell.
What would you be doing right now if no one was eve answering the phone?
I have no shares here. I'm one of the readers learning this whole suspension process (2nd time 1st time I was a bag holder)
I just want to see people like MOMO go to jail!