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Stocking, Deano, Walker and all other newcomers - Welcome aboard. Yes us longs that have been here for 8-10 years have the float pretty much locked up. I would estimate 5-6 SH have an estimated 1.0 -1.5B that is sitting tight and not going anywhere until our BIG PAY DAY is realized.
Penny I agree with your prediction that we will see a spike to at least .05 but the surge here will not be a fluke but based purely on fundamentals. Glad to see you are finally coming around from the dark side.
As far as Whatscookin is concerned ,all longs (including myself) and newcomers alike should be extremely grateful for all the outstanding research WC has done and shared with all on this board. I know I am grateful and a lot wealthier to boot. Longs have the float locked up and we are not going anywhere until we are well into the pennies or higher.
Based on what I have seen personally and up close, the NJ Hybrid-Tek Cetek subsidiary is a remarkable facility with technological capabilities that are mind blowing. The Hybrid-Tek manager advised me during my visit they are always busy and at times have a difficult time keeping up with all their government orders (and that would be U.S. govt not NJ business. IMO Hybrid-tek alone has a value in the pennies.
Folks we are going much much higher so enjoy the ride up.
Ace If your friend is agreeable have him cancel and replace the purchase order with "no conditions" and you will see the bid volume will increase reflecting the entire share purchase.
Given what is going on with your friend's order and countless others, I am thinking the bid is actually much higher than what is showing here.
Ace What I have noticed is that when a CTKH buy order at a limit is placed with "all or none" conditions the bid does not increase. However when the same CTKH limit buy order is placed with "no alottment conditions" the bid volume will increase.
I am not sure the reasoning for this and/or if this is what typically should occurr but as you know nothing is normal when it comes to the MM's in Cetek world
No, this is not a legitimate reason and your explanation makes no sense in my particular specific situation. The tape showed 9 (nine) 9M trades at .0001 and there is no way my 3,333,333 trade somehow got buried within anyone one of those transactions.
OK enough said and I will stop beating a dead horse but if you cannot admit at least the presence of an endless pattern of extreme MM manipulation is taking place here in a concerted effort to suppress the SP, you are either delusional, an MM, or a MM team member. (however I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt because you really seem to be a nice guy)
Orange, I might add every other miniscule trade (like the one for a whopping 67 shares today at .0001) always seems to appear within the transaction listings. Do you really believe there has been no MM deception here?
Orange, I don't think so because the 3,333,333 buy transaction still should have showed up as a separate trade but when you look at the 3/5/14 transactions its like the trade never happened except for the fact I later saw it filled within my Fidelity account.
The fact the trade went through at the same exact time as the 100M MM shenanigan transaction makes me all the more suspicious.
Anyone here that doesn't believe the MM's are purposely trying to keep CTKH SP suppressed is either an MM or a MM team member. They have been able to get away with this for almost the last decade due to Hilal's silence but their day of reckoning is near. I almost feel sorry for them (well not really)
WC- I had a very small longstanding buy order (dated 2/7/14 of 3,333,333M) go through and note it was exactly at the time of the 100M MM shennigan trade. When I mean exactly the same time I mean to the second. Now keep in mind I have much larger longstanding buy orders prior to and subsequent to that date that have not been filled.
That is not even the most curious part. The 3,333,333 million transaction did NOT show up as a trade that day. I was shocked when I later saw the buy order filled in my Fidelity account. It is worth repeating the small 3,333,333 million buy order did NOT show up as transaction. How can that be?
Comments anyone.
Larz, Excellent analysis and interpretation of the filings ! So if in fact the last 3 were convertible debentures and not dilution you are implying the O/S may be as low as 2 billion? Truly amazing stuff as we have traded that many shares in the last 30 days alone.
I am beginning to think CTKH is going to explode to the upside once we clear the .0003's and anyone that was thinking of getting in better load up now.
IMO this is the most undervalued sub penny I have ever seen and those waiting on the sidelines for something to happen will be kicking themselves they did not buy in now at the insanely low .0002's.
Orangeman, I may attempt contact with your guy at the coffee shop near Cetek. If I recall there are more than a few coffee shops and deli's in strip malls near Cetek. I need more specifics on "exactly" where the shop is located. The little shop that you described is actually a deli and NOT a coffee shop. It is located on the other side of the road from Cetek and almost directly across from Commerce Street.
There is a "diner" just down the street (Rt 55) also on the other side of RT 55 where Cetek is located and a few other shops close by.
Could you send me a pinpoint location of the shop where the employee Bruce works ?
Ramspace- John Hilal apparently has not signed up with Linkedin but surprising the old man is.
Cetek- Interesting trading pattern developing here. A block of 50M apparently exchanged hands between MM's today followed by several buys. Of particular significance was a buy of 13M plus. Most retail traders are only able to purchase under 10M per trade unless the trade is put through a broker and why use a broker and pay an additional transaction fee?
So who made the 13M purchase? Is this the beginning of the naked short covering? I only bring this up as a possibility because of the 50M exchange between the MM's and the fact the 100 whacker has disappeared at least for now.
Can anyone with good trading expertise care to comment on the new trading pattern?
Big What is the $$ amount fee for the 4/30/14 license and do you know how soon after this payment is made it becomes public knowledge?
Ramspace Thanks for making the phone call, please don't feel bad, and welcome to our ever growing club. You should feel good Hilal wished you a "good day" before hanging up on you. How do you interpret the meaning of his "very good" reply concerning the 2B shares traded? Hilal has never felt comfortable discussing anything concerning SP so it is not surprising he hung up (even on you).
Seriously thanks again for making the phone call to FH which is never easy when knowing you are always just one word or question away from the click on the other end.
Well if the contract work is related to the Alamos (Macor Curcuit project) which is most definitely government classified then that still goes back several years. IMO the re-instatement reasons are related to some drastic change and something of even greater significance than a gov't contract classified or unclassified.
Geesh if this was any other pink sheet stock just the possibility of government contracts and we would be at .005. The gov't work IMO is just the tip of the iceberg so it is all good
Bigcue Cetek has owned Hybrid-tek since 2006 and it is my understanding they have held government contracts during that entire time frame. Therefore why would Hilal just now suddenly decide after 7 years that he needed to get re-instated? I think there are even bigger implications for the re-instatement than the government contracts alone.
Ramspace A few days ago I believed I had located our Mr. Cohen as my database search turned up a Gabriel Cohen age 56 with a degree from the Univ of MN (same as Hilal). I tried contacting this particular Gabriel Cohen but unfortunately this turned out to be a dead end lead. In the course of my business, I typically utilize several different database searches for various reasons and I tried locating Mr. Cohen using three additional databases with no luck.
Hey Orange, we don't need to move the curtain... just a bit of a lift of the curtain and this will be a rocket pad launch the likes of many have never seen
Orange, thanks. Even 3rd hand info is valuable.
You never know what one conversation might do in our pursuit of Cetek info..... sometimes it can point you in an entirely new direction, produce more company business/product clues, or possibly lead us to another individual/Cetek employee who might really be in the know. Our goal is to lift Hilal's steel curtain anyway possible until such time he tells us his story.
Orange Could you please advise the name of the restaurant you visited near Cetek wherein the worker told you he believed there were exciting developments about to happen at the company. Also the first name or a basic physical description of the worker would be helpful.
If I or any other board member is in that area we can then possibly stop by there and see if the worker might share any tidbit of news regarding what he has heard.
I am sorry to hear you are not feeling all that well and hope you make a swift recovery.
Best Regards
DannyD
I HAVE LOCATED MR GABRIEL COHEN.......I believe I have located Mr Gabriel Cohen age 56, studied at the University of MN which is also where Mr Hilal obtained his graduate. A coincidence ? Most likely not. A little more poking around and all of Mr Cohen's contact info will be obtained.
Now the actual contact and discussion with Mr. Cohen is an extremely delicate matter. I would like to nominate Whatscookin for this serious mission as I can think of no one that is more artful, skillful and adept with getting their point across.
Any thoughts or ideas from the board?
China very well stated. I am in 100% agreement.
Since it appears Mr Cohen, as evidenced by Dr Larzo's analysis, may have played a key role in Cetek's past and present share structure maybe we (SH) should attempt to locate Mr. Cohen. With a person's dob (or approx age) and a prior address almost anyone can be located these days.
After all Mr Cohen was listed as a member of the board of directors and he has some obligation to Cetek investors. We do not know if Mr. Cohen is still associated with Cetek. If as Dr Larzo indicated, the convertible has been satisfied, Cohen could still hold a billion shares or less, we simply do not know.
Yes, Cohen could be sworn to secrecy not to divulge a word about anything until Hilal allows his grand plan to be revealed but maybe just maybe after all these years he too (if he is still holding) is getting a bit impatient and wants to let the big secret out.
I am not suggesting by contacting Mr. Cohen we are going to obtain any mind blowing information but frankly even a tiny tidbit of info from a prior or present member of the board of directors would be welcome. We are not trying to obtain insider information but is the current OS too muck to ask for?
Now does anyone have an inkling on Cohens age, DOB, residence ? Someone mentioned he resided in MN back when the SH meeting took place in 2004?
WC You are dead on about the stipulation that Round (should he accept my offer) would be required to hold CTKH until such time a PR is released or until such time his shares appreciate at least 10-20 fold.
After all if he were to flip those free shares at between .0004 - .0005 when we hit the double zeros or higher he would once again agonize he sold out way prematurely. So Round, I do forgive you for your harsh words (Paraphrasing) that you would use my Cetek share donation for toilet paper and then flush it down the toilet.
I know you really didn't mean it the way it came out but again sadly it appears Hilal has gotten into your head and the tormenting and haunting that you hear must be truly unbearable. What were all his children's name again that you memorized? And Hilal's birthday? But did he remember your birthday?
Please don't forget it is now 2014 and no longer 2005. We have learned some truly amazing things about our little Cetek investment since the dark days from 2006. The future for new and old investors appears extremely bright. Have you reviewed Dr Larzo's recent posts and analysis of the convertibles and the new found indications that the O/S may be far less than the 6.1B? I suggest you review all of Dr Larzo's recent postings as well as all the excellent DD posted here by Whatscookin. This is all DD that pertains to the present and not some point in time back in 2005 when Hilal betrayed you.
I anticipate you will eventually return to IHUB even after you banned yourself from further posting here. If you do return and are too embarrassed to accept the share donation for everyone to see then you can PM me.
Lars your theory that the convertibles were used to secure the $850K and therefore the OS may be in fact well less than the 6.1B is a brilliant piece of analysis that for some reason no one before has considered. Once stated and explained it makes total sense.
If your theory is correct what is your estimation of the current OS given the known share structure and SP at the time the convertible went through?
Also other then getting this info via a PR or Ramspace's effort to convince Hilal to update the website with the current O/S..... can you think of any other means of obtaining this valuable documentation?
Thank you for all your efforts here !!
Round, those are harsh words from one who calls himself a preacher. As a God faring person please try to forgive Hilal. You should know that the first step for salvation is forgiveness.
You have declined a free donation of Cetek shares ? Then I truly wonder why you are here?
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Roundmot, incredible it sounds as if Hilal still torments you to this day even though you have not been invested in his company since 2006. Now I can understand why you are so bitter. You sent him birthday cards every year, memorized his childrens names, and visited him twice every year. I bet if you called him today though, he wouldn't give you the time of day.
You have every right to be bitter. The very best of luck to you and I hope one day for the betterment of your sanity, Hilal stops haunting you.
I truly feel sorry for and let me know about my share donation offer.
Lars, all true and thanks for reminding us as some others here would make it seem as if there has been a R/S every other year.
Roundmot I have given this some serious thought and since a few of us here hold a combined several hundred millions of Cetek shares and because Hilal has treated you so shabbily I am strongly considering donating perhaps 10-20M shares to you directly.
These would be absolutely free no strings attached. The only thing I might ask would be maybe you could stop your whining for awhile and cease your efforts at trying to get cheap shares from new Cetek investors.
What do you say? But please try to keep your reply to 100 words or less as your redundant posts about how you were suckered by Hilal and are now trying to save ourselves are becoming tiresome.
Wow, I really feel sorry for you. You lost a bundle of money as you apparently got into Cetek about a decade too early. You really do sound like a bitter old man but I still hope you have genuine success in picking up some cheap shares a decade later.
If you buy enough millions of Cetek shares you may get to break even or make a profit when Hilal steps down, the buy out occurs or when that elusive PR is issued.
The best of luck to you Round mouth preacher man AKA Richard. I do sincerely hope things turn around for you someday. LOL
Hi Chrisbooth Thanks for your contributions to this board. Historically the best time to catch Hilal by phone is typically late afternoon 4:00 P.M. (after the secretary leaves for the day). However you could get lucky and catch him before then.
Its a double edged sword with him. If you get the secretary and you tell her you are a investor, she will ask for your name and number but the chances of a return call from Hilal are zero. However do NOT be discouraged because Hilal definitely can be reached if you time it right. What other CEO answers his co phone? I have even caught him in on Saturdays ! Cetek is Hilals life blood
Ramspace Excellent DD and very concise.
The long winded narratives that simply regurgitate info from 1998 (from people who disappeared over 5 years ago) we really don't need.
Ramspace Thank-you for your persistent efforts in trying to convince Hilal to list the OS on the website. I wasn't aware you had already asked once and his answer was quite interesting "when there is a need". Now when you bring it up next week maybe you can ask him what would be the catalyst for "the need" to list it on the website.
Of course anyone knows who has interacted with Hilal a follow up question to a question will generate a quick slam down of the phone and we don't want that. You have done a spectacular job over the years communicating with Hilal as every call must be like walking on egg shells or more like dancing about in a mine field. You are a champion of all Cetek SH and thank you again for all your efforts.
Makingbigdough, thanks for making the call and sharing. Sounds as if Hilal's responses were pretty much typical of what investors have heard from him over the years. I do believe you are quite adept and accurate with your read into his personality. And yes you nailed it, we have a real company with a minimum of 10M revenues and it is so so undervalued..... Biggest reason for the gross undervaluation is the Ceo's secretive nature and his withholding of info from SH. THAT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE SOON WITH THE RE-INSTATEMENT
The CEO's personality aside, I truly believe we are on the verge of a huge run here given the 10M revenues, no debt, leading edge technology, and let us not forget the Hybrid-Tek and Belanger subsidiaries and their growing businesses that I observed first hand.
Welcome aboard and the very best of luck to you
For anyone that is wondering what is going on here and seeking the "real truth" regarding Cetek both in the present and past, please carefully read Whatscookin post 19547. A classic narrative that contains many nuggets of valuable information and at the same time is quite funny and amazingly true.
Ramspace I am not sure if you saw my prior post yesterday asking if you could call Hilal and request he list the current OS on the web site. As closed mouthed as we know he is to SH inquiries, this would be fair, open, easy, and best of all (and closest to Hilals heart) free.
My sincere apologies for hounding you about this and I completely understand if you decline. I know you only have so many minutes of quality phone minutes with Hilal before he starts hanging up on you as well.
Just let me know yes or no so I know you have read this. Many thanks, no matter what you decide for making all your prior difficult calls. If you would rather send a PM that would be fine.
Everyone please do not begrudge the preacher and his good flock of followers who have resurfaced here and are now trying to save us all from our sinful greed.
Can you blame them for being bitter? After they invested their hard-earned money nearly a decade ago and lost their entire investment they now see opportunity and are sorry they sold out too soon.
It's just not fair, they worked so hard pumping this up a decade ago, sold all their shares at a loss, and now they want back in (In the very worse way).
It's like they were playing the same lottery ticket for 10 years, then stopped playing their number and now realize it's about to hit.
Yes the CEO is a mad scientist and not shareholder friendly (understatement of the decade) but he is 73-74 yrs old by now? I smell a buyout in the near future and I will be here when it happens and that is why I believe the old preacher and his flock of followers have returned to these pastures.
Good Doctor- You are very welcome
To All New Board Members-please be aware of this Roundmot (claimed preacher man)AKA Richard. He was a huge pumper of CTKH back in the mid 2000's and now he is back as a basher. Apparently the preacher man is a bit miffed he has missed out on some of the cheaper shares especially since he sold all his several years ago. Now he is sorry for selling and wants back in for your shares.