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Prove otherwise with links and I will sell as well
Been proven repeatedly.
Just read their PR's and compare to their fins buddy.
It is not a contract.
That is a lie. A lie is something told that is known to be untrue.
The public statement that can be viewed is below...
On 6-13-2011 the company was awarded an RFP to provide 1500 plus store fixtures and 80,000 plus peg-hooks to over 1500 home-center stores. The company anticipates this project to begin within 45-60 days. Shareholders are welcome to visit and see these fixtures in production. Call 336-667-8765 and make your appointment for a plant tour.
It can be found here...
http://expoholding.com/
Quite clear.
I really do enjoy this little exchange from 2009.
I guess I was pretty much 100% correct and you were 100% incorrect.
It is hilarious that all the things you praised them on got swatted down by the company in less than 2 years. Are you still happy to debate or discuss any of them??? I doubt it.
True to their word about no raise in the A/S-oops
Effective branding strategy for etc.-oops
a ceo who follows thru-oops
Conventional financing vs. dilution-oops
anticipation about the big 10000 unit order-oops
the transparency from the webcam-oops
operational profit-oops
Home depot order-oops
shipping by September 29th-oops
2.5 truckloads a day-oops
ceo that will sue people that say mean things-oops
like i said .. mgmt will also
give the info on any publicly
disseminated info including uccs'
and what has been paid off vs.
what still exists
Why have people call and waste mgmt's time then?
Why not just post a link to the public information and save JD the time?
Seems kinda stupid to want a CEO to be on the phone all the time answering questions that the answers are already available publicly.
There is no reason. It is a stupid connection to draw.
They already paid the money to pinksheets. They need to have financials done for their banks.
Therefore there is ZERO extra expense and it would actually save mgmt time each week because they wouldnt have to field phone calls regarding financials all the time.
It is flat out stupid to believe that the router had anything to do with it.
If the company came out and was transparent about everything, then it would all be a dead issue. There would be concrete irrefutable proof of what a POS Expo is.
Instead they only let out bits and pieces so they can let other people elaborate and extrapolate. They can try and put a positive spin on things that are simply crap.
Look at the history of this filth. It is always ambiguous misleading statements that could have 5 different meanings. Then when the financials get released eventually it is just crap. The company comes up with some excuses, the paid promoters come up with even more excuses and then they start it all over again and talk about how this time it will be different.
2010 was probably the worst year this company has ever had. That is why they had to dilute. Not to clean up a balance sheet, not to repair a router.
They had to dilute because they burned all of their cash when they were losing money hand over fist.
Answer this question 4kids, how were they going to pay their bills when they were running at a loss?
As noted by 4kids, nice to see no further signs of dilution for a significant period and stabilization of cash.
Really that is the only sign? That is how you judge? Because they have gone 20 weeks without raising the AS??
They have gone many more weeks than that before. What happened? 2 billion more shares. That is what happened.
It will happen again, so lets cut the attempts, ummmmm k.
the first was their public acknowledgement
in dec 2009 that only material items would
be pr'd in the future .. something i applauded
since i'm no fan of pr's issued for the sake of
a *PR being issued*
This is baloney. Mgmt may have said that, but they obviously didnt follow it.
How about a PR regarding Window World threatening them to stop using their name? Why didnt they PR that? They just snuck in a stupid little web update.
What about their stupid PR about looking for board members?
What about their PR that they were preparing for some roll outs?
JD Brown steals money from shareholders and old women. I also heard a rumor he is a werewolf.
If you don't have a link disproving these things they are obviously true.
Thank you fourkids for posting yet again why mgmt is crooked.
If they were on the up and up, they would just post all the details on the website.
It is faster and easier. Instead they would rather field phone calls all week and have lengthy discussions with people.
Gee wonder why?
hahahahaha. Thanks again 4kids!!! Great DD.
Yes but one of the issues with the SEC was a project that they were told LLEG was no longer involved in yet they say they are so the checking into this accusation was poorly done.
So let me get this straight. SEC suspends company. Company says that it is all a misunderstanding, and because the company said that it means the SEC was wrong and jumped to conclusions.
Pretty sure I am going to trust the SEC as most people that get caught say they didn't do it.
Is there a .05% chance that this is all just a misunderstanding? Sure anything is possible.
I typically play the 99.95% odds though. Call me crazy.
50k was shaved off the debt
last friday .. had it not been
it would have been updated
it wasn't
100% untrue.
Remember when mgmt said the company would do 6 million in 2009? They did not update that until long after 2009 had ended and they only did 1.6million.
Remember when mgmt said they would do 9-11million in 2010? Well they didnt say they didnt do it, so then by your logic Expo did 9-11 million in 2010?
Remember when they said _______ and didn't update and then it was proven that they never did _______ many months later?
Just fill in the blanks with any one of ohhhhh say 50 things.
Such nonsense.
Reverse Split!!!???
http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/corpActions.aspx?lx8nvq=yiCRrksM0rZ9tJxgaG23Jw%253d%253d&CorpName=EXPO+HOLDINGS+INC.
Ut oh. This can't be good. Expo filed a stock split action. Yuck.
It sits right next to the share printing machine at Expo. They are of course the only two machines that never stop running. Expo has a full stock of replacement parts on hand because as we all know, these are the two most important machines they own.
Yeah when he said .01 I thought for sure he had caught wind of the inevitable reverse split.
The fact is they have probably looked at nothing but the complaints that were sent to them and they may have read the news releases.
I guess we have different definitions of the word FACT.
The SEC doesn't just look at complaints and read PR's. That is a ridiculous assertion.
Nobody is saying they 100% without a doubt know absolutely what happened.
That being said, only a fool would be expecting that this was all just a misunderstanding. The SEC doesn't just suspend stocks without some pretty solid evidence.
How many stocks can you think of that were suspended by the SEC that it turned out to be a big misunderstanding?
Take your time researching.
They obviously did not lie.
Sorry JD is crooked.
truly not understanding why this isn't comprehended
the router had a financial impact
The irony here is pretty funny.
As far as the router having an impact, the company sold hundreds of millions of shares. That should have taken care of 6 weeks worth of everything. Then router back up and running if they didnt have all that same stuff done within 6 weeks of the original timing, then it is undeniable they were lying.
Only on planet mothership/conspiracy/coockoo would a 6 week delay be allowed to excuse a 6 month delay. It is simply put, a stupid excuse.
But...but...what about the macro environment???
logic and analysis
kicks in .. and what also can't be
refuted are the daily volume avgs
done in 2009 <wash trading> when
the AVG was *running* approx 40M
shares per day .. of course this
was when the SS was 980M/1 BILLION
I would recommend looking further into the data you speak of. Notice how on the days in 2009 when the volume spiked what did it coordinate with? Massive buying or selling pressure and big moves of the PPS related to it.
Logic and sanity should actually kick in to comprehend what that means.
Throw in that it matched perfectly to mgmt's pump campaign, ie paid promotion, and it is so easy I can't believe you missed it.
But hey, I am happy to help.
this
decision was also undertaken b4 the unexpected passing
of the ceo of WW
I think it is disgusting how often this poor man's death is disrespected by bringing him into the Expo Holdings scam. There is zero proof that there ever was an actual agreement between Window World and Expo. It was only ever even mentioned by Expo AFTER his death and was promptly discarded.
Window world installs windows, not cabinets.
this board was extolled to do comps against other co.s
the irony of course is that if one actually does do
comps against other *UNREGISTERED* OTC CO.s
one's DD reveals exactly how transparent expo holdings
So the board is supposed to compare Expo to hundreds of other scam operations?
How about we just stick with looking at the facts instead of trying to pump on a curve?
I dont do the Expo is a lesser scam debate. It is like debating which is worse, rape or murder? Who cares??? Anybody that engages in either is filth.
What tanked the pps was JD.'s lies
Exactly. I mean come on would the price have ever gone up so high if JD had not PR'd about deals with Wal Mart, Lowe's, and Home Depot and held a conference call to talk about their future $100million product?
He even said in the conference call that Wal Mart could account for over 20% of their business in 2009. He predicted 6 million in revenues for 2009 and 17 million for 2010.
These are what inflated the price. What did people think would happen when these things fell apart one by one? Never mind the fact that the share structure increased drastically.
Still no reply from JD Brown on the email below. Gosh, what a shocker that he won't answer a tough question calling him out. I guess I understand though. The only answer he can say is "Sorry, I lied."
How do you excuse telling people at the very end of 2009 that you were still on track to do 6 million dollars in revenue and then do only 1.6 million?
You told this to lots of people. Some even claim you told them after the end of 2009. I only have concrete proof that you made this claim in December right before you guys shut down for the year.
Just want to hear the 4.4 million dollar excuse.
An SEC suspension is a bit higher than Idle Speculation.
There is pretty much a 99.9% chance that this company has done at least a couple shady things or the SEC would not have done that.
It kinda makes me sad that this happened as I had always kinda hoped LLEG would be the exception to the rule that all penny stocks are scams. I will still hope that this is just a big misunderstanding of some sorts, but that is HIGHLY unlikely.
Why all the discussion of whether the cabinets are ugly, staged for a photo, high quality, put in the right order or whatever else is being discussed?
Who cares? They could be the best quality cabinets ever built, put in a perfect order, be universally loved, and guess what?
It does not change the fact that Expo Holdings is a penny scam. They sell products at cost or below. The directors pilfered money from the company coffers to line their own pockets.
They lied about their shares being restricted, they lied about revenues, and they lied about having any retailers at all interested in their diaper changing product.
THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS.
Hey JD, btw since I know you still read this board daily, remember those other companies you were talking to and sharing my personal information with that were also threatening me and trying to get me to shut up? Well guess what buddy, they have been suspended by the SEC.
Stay tuned.
Hahahahahaha. Yep what a good day. Yesterday was great too. ARTS suspended yesterday.
Now I just need EXPH suspended and that would be all three companies that threatened me suspended.
Why won't JD answer a simple question?
I have asked point blank why he was telling people they were going to do 6 million with only a few weeks left in the year and only one week before the big shutdown.
Why the 4.4 million shortfall???
But he ignores my question.
I thought mgmt was so easily accessible and willing to answer questions???
Guess they only answer when they like the questions. What a bunch of criminals.
The best part about Expo is that you don't have to be an expert in anything to realize that it is a scam.
Who cares if the paint didn't go on first, or the walls weren't sanded or the color of a cabinet.
There is only one thing that matters out of the whole thing. Let's say that you are correct and they are etc, an unreliable assumption at best, but we will go with it. What matters most here is that they shoved the alleged etc. cabinets in the small employee break room jammed up near what appears to be an ice maker. etc. isn't in a store, a distributor, or even on a website. No sirree. It is in an unseen to the public back room of a Dentist's office that the CEO felt the need to take somebody to in order to try and legitimize his operation.
You see Nate, JD once said that etc. was a 100 million dollar a year enterprise. That was almost two years ago. There was an alleged patent application, a trademark application, and they had hired a company to help launch it.
It has been 20 months since the alleged patent filing. As you can see there is no patent... http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&Query=ic%2Fnorth-wilkesboro&d=PTXT and as you can see there is no application pending... http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&Query=ic%2Fnorth-wilkesboro&d=PG01
Now it doesn't take an expert in anything to realize that when a CEO claims it is a 100million dollar product, that it is patentable, trademarkable, and marketing firm hiring worthy it is safe to say that the back break room of a Dentist office is the same as posting a notice at the coroners office as DOA.
http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/ucc/FilingChain.aspx?FileNumber=20080045991K#
This is by far the most ridiculous. They paid 34% interest on a stupid note to buy a product called bite back that obviously is DOA (just like etc.).
This was a stupid decision that was magnified by the fact that GH and JD are crooks. If they wouldnt have pilfered the 400k from Expo, they could have paid for this in full up front and at least saved 17k.
what is unusual renee is that the co.
actually survived the *attn* given
to it back in 2009
What a silly thing to say. Mgmt is on record of selling 2 million shares at .03.
They also sold another 10 million between .01 and .02.
That alone is at least 160k. They also sold at least 100million more shares between may and july of 2009. How could they not survive????
It is because of the attention created by the bs pr's and lies mgmt told that they are still here.
unreal what is posted.
There are no coincidences here and I am not selling at these levels either. i am 100% confident in my DD. In 3-5 years you will see SPNG will bounce back.
no one imo at the sec or finra watches
out for legit co.s (like spongetech)
Guess they weren't so legit after all. How many sponges did they ever actually sell? Approximately one sponge for every ten million shares?
That is beautiful. It proves 100% how stupid those theories are.
Bottom line is they are created and reproduced to cover up what criminals like JD Brown do everyday.
they go to jail
i'm that *certain* of MY DD
So we agree that mgmt is going to jail at some point for being scam artists?
Because JD said so. How dare you question JD. He has never fibbed in his life ever.
That is why Expo did 6 million in 2009. They did do 6 million in 2009 right?
facts are a funny thing
So funny that you forgot to list any of them in your post?
I see zero facts in that post. It has long been proven that the shares traded didnt have anything to do with the dilution of that day. They were from the hundreds of millions of shares that were diluted prior. You do know that shares can be traded that were purchased prior to that day right?
That is a fact. If I purchased EXPH shares today, I would be able to sell them in 4 months (unless of course the company went buh bye or got halted). What a crazy concept!!!
Some silly newbie might fall for such a preposterous claim that the volume on that day was all short because the shares didnt exist, etc etc, but any person with half a brain can figure out that the company has a printing press that started running long before 11/29.
Oh those pesky details.
REMEMBER THE $22 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT IS A DONE DEAL...so do not expect more news on that other than shipments have begun.
How did the DD on the visits produce such incorrect results?
Done deal, lmao. That is funny.