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Irrelevant.
Good find! HUMBL
The only way that would happen is for the stock to uplist. Are you suggesting a stock sitting at .0009 is going to uplist soon? Pumper!
Jan 26. Everyone already knew.
Remember when you made a really big deal about the AS as if it was impossible to increase. And if it did the stock would tank? Remember my response? It was a non-event as I said it was. AS means pretty much nothing when the CEO owns controlling interest.
OMG the AS means nothing at all. It is an arbitrary number that the board decides on and changes as needs fit. Posting 22 bil shares means something. It suggests that there are 22 bill shares out. Quit the outrage and tell me about how the market makers are humanitarians on the HMBL board some more.
11 billion
Figure out what has been happening = 4 billion in dilution but they didn't lower the price. By your own copy and paste, Centerpoint securities disagrees with you.
Convenient that you refuse to discuss when you cannot explain why market makers are holding the share price at .0009 on the bid. Sorry to confuse you with actual logic.
As for Tenkay and Olives - they seem so much smarter than you. They don't post here much, but you want to be here daily even though nobody listens to you. Well not nobody, your associates appreciate you - but then you could just stand up at your cubicle and you can talk directly to them.
So genius.. a market maker is required to buy at .0009 and not .0001? You know for sure that this stock is going to .0001, but the generous market makers (who obviously are not as smart as you) are buying the shares at 9x what they would be paying if they created a market at .0001. Better still, those market makers seem to be keeping the stock price from falling to even .0008. I have never seen a market maker that took their job so seriously that the would not only lose money "making a market," but also helping the company by propping up the stock price.
But now I have a crazy thought... What about all the stocks that are actually at .0001? And think about all the OTC stocks that will find their way down from .001 to .0001 this year. Did their market makers not get the memo? Maybe the junior detective should hop on one of those boards and let the buyers know that any day now, the market makers will be buying at .0009 - cause that is what they do. I have bought stocks that had no bid because the ask was at .0001. Were the market makers failing to do their job? Do you have a phone number to the market maker hotline to report those market makers for not creating a market?
If you used logic for even one minute, you would stop with this line of thinking because it doesn't paint a good picture of your aptitude. And where is Tenkay and Olives - the resident expert on everything stock? Do they think that the market makers picked .0009 to make a stand and lose their shirts? I bet they don't. I bet they would laugh at such an idea.
Could be a good day. Might be a really good week.
Woah... did anyone see that buy of over 40mil shares by some dumb market maker? He was obviously just making a market - creating a little liquidity by buying up half the shares that were offered at the ask. Oh, he lost his shirt on that deal, but Surf says he is obligated to buy them. Not yesterday or last week. Not even last month, but today he had to buy them because a market needed to be made.
Some will likely say that the same market maker will bring the stock to $10 so that a market can be made. What a good and faithful market maker we got there.
Sadly, you think a market maker is going to take 5 billion shares at the bid to keep the price from going lower - all while losing roughly $5mil of their own money. If someone were selling $5 bil in stock, a market maker has no obligation to keep the price at .001 in order to keep a market. They would simply lower the price.
Here is the fun thing... the seller of much of the stocks wanted the price to drop so they could get more shares. Whoever is continually buying on the bid effectively eliminated the toxic portion of the debt. Market makers are not tasked with sticking it to toxic lenders. They create market - at whatever price the market will dictate.
It is a great answer. Stands the test of logic unlike your "the market makers are creating a 5 bill share market by sitting at the ask during a 5 bil share dump" and "market makers will gladly lose money to create a market even if it costs them $5mil because that is their job." Remember that one?
Pure manipulation? Call it what you want, but it isn't illegal.
Yep. Still we get the panicked Serf who thinks that when sells are 3x buys that the price will be at .0001 any minute. Today we had 20mil on the bid, then it shot up to 70mil as selling started. After 20mil in 2 trades, we are still sitting at 50mil. So the trading channel of .0009-.001 continues for weeks - soon to be months. Then belated Christmas.
When it causes someone important to lose money. I don't consider this manipulation. Day traders have similar tactics just on a very limited scale.
HMBL will start to run when PL and maybe another party get enough shares. If it happens before that, they will likely sell a bunch of shares and then continue to buy lower. That was my original point. And I do believe it will run big when it does.
Unless they have convertible debt that they can cash in at any time. No need to buy back. That is exactly what the PPHM example was. This might blow your mind... if they own 100's of millions of shares, they just sell shares that the already own and continue buying after the price drops. PL owns convertible debt and is buying up HMBL shares. They would obviously want shares at .0009 instead of .001 or .01 for that matter.
The moral of the story is that they are buying shares on the bid. We know this because they said they were. They are likely at the ask as well in order to keep the price from rising while buying. That is common sense. MY ENTIRE POINT, before we decided to parse every word, was that the run up to .003 was likely killed by PL so they could continue to buy shares cheap. I could have said that they may be selling at the ask - and should have because you two are simple minded and cannot understand complex thought.
Yep. Stick around and learn a bit.
Irrelevant to you maybe. You really aren't as smart as you think you are.
Where did I say PL was? They likely are did on Aug 28 and Oct 10th, but if you are going to quibble about words, then you should hold yourself to the same standard.
1. I didn't say they were shorting, I said they may be.
2. The normal way you would short is to borrow someone's shares.
Look closely at the full relationship between PL and HMBL.
When did I say they borrowed shares? You read things that aren't there because of your limited understanding.
A company called Peregrine Pharma was involved in a hostile takeover back in 2017. The company had a poison pill at the time. Didn't seem to matter. Three different companies (really one...but...) bought and SOLD shares while acquiring shares.
This is Ronin Capital and it's affiliate SWIM's trades above 5%. Note that there were two times when they sold shares to keep the stock from running while acquiring stock. I was involved and remember these two events as if they happened last month. When HMBL started running to .003 recently, someone brought it back in line to the .0008-.001 range. That event felt oddly familiar.
Do you find it odd that 4 bil shares of HMBL were diluted while eliminating debt and the stock rose from .0007 to .001 during that time?
Common Stock:
· On February 1, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 1,000 shares at an average price of $0.3043 per share.
· On February 2, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 2,000 shares at an average price of $0.30995 per share.
· On February 3, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 1,089,965 shares at an average price of $0.31547 per share.
· On February 6, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 631,589 shares at an average price of $0.32101 per share.
· On February 7, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 515,516 shares at an average price of $0.32359 per share.
· On February 8, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 607,904 shares at an average price of $0.32076 per share.
· On February 9, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 2,610,986 shares at an average price of $0.35647 per share.
· On February 10, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 1,338,028 shares at an average price of $0.3534 per share.
· On February 13, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 515,908 shares at an average price of $0.36969 per share.
· On February 14, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 364,659 shares at an average price of $0.37253 per share.
· On February 15, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 715,765 shares at an average price of $0.38208 per share.
· On February 16, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 3,971 shares at an average price of $0.42995 per share.
· On February 17, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 984,241 shares at an average price of $0.53328 per share.
· On February 17, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC sold 441,595 shares at an average price of $0.59007 per share.
· On February 21, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 1,990,547 shares at an average price of $0.4977 per share.
· On February 22, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 1,228,848 shares at an average price of $0.51502 per share.
· On February 23, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 750,855 shares at an average price of $0.50755 per share.
· On February 24, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 461,155 shares at an average price of $0.50303 per share.
· On February 27, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 1,343,261 shares at an average price of $0.55479 per share.
· On February 28, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 967,044 shares at an average price of $0.58756 per share.
· On March 1, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 1,503,330 shares at an average price of $0.58716 per share.
Series E Preferred Stock:
· On February 27, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 35,152 shares at a price of $20.15 per share.
· On February 28, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 6,482 shares at a price of $20.30 per share.
· On March 1, 2017, Ronin Capital, LLC purchased 4,430 shares at a price of $20.60 per share.
SWIM Partners LP
Common Stock:
· On January 5, 2017, SWIM Partners LP sold 77,246 shares at an average price of $0.3010922 per share.
· On January 20, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 50,000 shares at an average price of $0.2889 per share.
· On January 23, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 35,000 shares at an average price of $0.2931 per share.
· On January 24, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 15,000 shares at an average price of $0.306487 per share and 75,000 shares at an average price of $0.3054 per share.
· On January 25, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 112,500 shares at an average price of $0.30765 per share.
· On January 26, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 210,000 shares at an average price of $0.3062 per share.
· On January 27, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 52,500 shares at an average price of $0.2987 per share.
· On January 30, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 250,000 shares at an average price of $0.2938 per share.
· On January 31, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 300,000 shares at an average price of $0.2946 per share.
· On February 1, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 250,000 shares at an average price of $0.3005 per share.
· On February 2, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 100,000 shares at an average price of $0.3093 per share.
· On February 6, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 450,390 shares at an average price of $0.3163 per share.
· On February 9, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 150,000 shares at an average price of $0.355 per share.
· On February 16, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 199,610 shares at an average price of $0.4236 per share.
Series E Preferred Stock:
· On January 24, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 3,820 shares at an average price of $20.384135 per share.
· On February 23, 2017, SWIM Partners LP purchased 180 shares at an average price of $19.80 per share.
Spend 10 minutes learning about HMBL. You will be surprised what PL is doing for them in all aspects of their relationship.
Thanks for your advice. I'll let them know they can't do what they do.
And yet you engage my best advisor regularly.
Think what you want. I know what I have.
The venture capitalist is Jacob from Pacific Lion. Call him up. He will talk to you.
I think it is a great opportunity for big gains. However, I'm not sure if we will see the stock move for another 3-4 months. I believe someone is buying up shares (because a venture capitalist said he was), but normally that process is a 6 month thing. Could be sped up a bit as dilution got bought up.
When the big kids buy stock, they also short the other side to keep their prices as low as possible and even make some money on the spread. Today there were five or six 10mil share sells. The number of shares on the bid took a small dip, but we are still looking at 38mil shares on the bid. If another 20mil get sold at the bid, I expect the number of shares on the bid to pretty much remain constant or even increase.
As we get closer to April, the stock price should rise a bit as the company has an income source going online at that time. Who knows how Clear View plays into this whole thing. I hope for something really good.
I think it will be FORW and SRNW. GVSI still waiting on SEC and WNFT is waiting on Calasse. Otherwise we would likely see 4 RM's.
Then don't buy.
I missed pretty much all of today's trading as I am remodeling our kitchen. I am waiting for someone to take out the biggest block of shares on the ask to get things started - maybe 30-40mil. Id love for it to happen before the new year. Guessing it will be the first or second week of Jan tho. Did you see anything noteworthy lately or is it just the picking off of the shares on the bid only to see the bid grow after each sell?
There are only 2 kinds of people on this board:
Realists and 50 year old boys caught up in their mommy's basement complaining about companies they have no ownership in.
We know that the stock price is at .001 and not $100. We also know that if the stock goes up only .001, we double our money. If it goes to a penny, we make 10x our money. I've seen much worse stocks go from .0001 to .08. Take a look at some of my old posts.
We know that Foote made some major mistakes when setting up the company.
We know that the tech is promising, but may or may not be the industry standard in a few years.
We know that there is little chance that the company will make money until April.
We know that the company has 11bil outstanding shares.
We know that there will probably be a RS at that time.
We know that a gov contract will likely happen, but it will likely take a minimum of 6 more months to actually make real money.
We also know that they are developing something that paypal, ticketmaster, seat geek, twitter, and pretty much everyone else is trying to figure out - and HMBL is likely much further along. Not sure how long that advantage will last, but for now...
We also know that the company once had 80 mil in debt that was suffocating them. Now they have no debt - or pretty much no debt.
We also know that a venture capitalist started working with HMBL and said publicly that they bought up debt from those who would sell and will be buying up shares on the open market. Coincidentally someone is "manipulating" (your word) the bid because it is obvious that someone is buying up shares on the bid - and ask.
We are realists because we see the good with the bad. You on the other hand may or may not see the good, but will only repeat the bad. Get a life. Go out to a single's bar and meet someone. Get a real job and start enjoying life.
There is a possibility that things happen faster - Musk really needs verified profiles. Every sports stadium will eventually move to verified ticketing. The gov really wants to eliminate paper money and would love to have control over what people spend their money on. But we are realists and know that we might just need to wait.
Then I hope they manipulate it to $4. IF we are going with that theory, I hope they manipulate it to $1000/share.
You are wise. Definitely not a Serf.
Why would the stock price climb 30% when at the same time there was 4 bil in dilution? HMMMMMM
Somebody knows something. Someone buying up the shares. Look to see if there are 10's of millions of shares on the bid that seem to never go away - even when someone dumping. That might be a sign of someone acquiring shares.
Why would the stock price be up 5% when there are so many sells? HMMMMMMM
Wait... It's Dec 22 when people unload their stock for the year end tax benefit and there are more sells than buys? That is crazy. Must be the end of HMBL.
How is the stock price affected today? All those sells you talk about should have caused the price to be cut in half, right?
edit: False alarm, looks like the stock price is up. Even with all this selling. It's as if someone is sitting on the bid - maybe a generous market maker - that is buying all the shares that people want to sell.
You might be the devil.
I don't smoke
Depends on the situation. In OTC world, an RS is usually the kiss of death because we are dealing with people who don't understand what an RS is. However, I have been through a few RS's that were highly profitable. One was priceline - not an otc company. One was PPHM - an otc company. PPHM - now AVID, went from .25 to .75 on news of an investor buying up 15% of the shares for "investment." They then demanded seats on the board and proceeded to take over the company. On news of the takeover, they also did a RS of 6:1. The stock increased by maybe 15% after the RS and then fell below the original price for about a week. Then the price moved from low $4's to $21/share in a matter of months. Was the second company I made over a million on. First one got halted by the SEC before I could cash out.
Here, the company is cryptically discussing the option of being bought out or merged with another company. It also mentioned that they will "partner" with a $2bil company that had over $600mil in cash and treasury notes on hand. Not sure what "partner" means to them, but I assume that they are negotiating a buyout of HMBL. That is the best time to do a RS because you can offer Cash, Stock, or a combination of both. Their stock is around $22/share, so they could realistically offer one of their shares for 1000 of ours. The company would be buying our tech and not the profitability.
So Tenkay would say that the we would not be bought out for $440mil. That is absurd. But if the tech will help Clear Secure with ticketing and stadium management - areas where they have already started moving, $440mil might be a very good deal. Look to Beats headphones, in home blood screening tech, and a ton of other small companies that got billions for their tech. If only HMBL was also involved in a wallet for government agencies. That might help Clear Secure even more - then we would be talking a much bigger price tag.