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SPZI is looking pretty hot..
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=spzi&sid=0&o_symb=spzi&f...
thanks for the reply major...
i just wanted to add that alot of people are giving you flack on the FGFC board, saying that if a case had never arose FGFC shareholders would be better off... again the majority are worthless sheep and their opinions are not worth the light of day..forget em, you guys did good..
FGFC and everyone involved with it did wrong, and would of continued to do wrong and milk the ti*s out of any and every investor they could till they were at 500 mil then reverse split and do it again, unless of course something was done.. And for what your associates did, many people are very pleased..thank you..
Whether Hayter wins or not doesnt matter, at least he was taken for a ride, made his a-hole pucker a little and will think a little harder about the way he goes about his future scams... and from what it looks like, there's not much in store for his future anyways...
Are they going to keep diluting to 500 mil and then reverse split and do it again, probably... but now its on record, FGFC is tainted and ruined and so are they... that info is now out there and if any investor ever buys anything to do with any of these guys, well then.. i believe it's.. burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me....
take care major, you guys did what you could.. if there is anything else you guys can do..well keep dealin the damage..
unfortunately its all to easy... i think i'm running into the same issue with SPZI..lol
i have a feeling things are going to start looking good tomorrow..
I was banned from the FGFC board for repeatedly posting that the company was a scam and had ties to Edward hayter. NOt for slander or anything of that nature..
Currently FGFC is in a court case with shareholders since it was a scam and turns out Edward Hayter was involved all along..
Since technically all I did was do the board a favor, I think i should be allowed to post...
HOw do you justify removing my posting priveledges on that board... For what was i banned then?
ibcx was just as bad as fgfc (Edward Hayter)
i got banned from FGFC for saying it was a scam and it was...
i guess your not allowed to post fact anymore... only pump..
Matt, I was banned from the FGFC board a couple of months ago for doing nothing more than posting factual information pointing out to new investors that the company appeared to be a scam. I was threatened and banned.. I never slandered anyone or bashed.. Since the company did turn out to be a scam i do not think i should be banned from that thread anymore... Can you remove the banning...thanks
TEVT - uptrend on low volume...
TEVT - uptrend on low volume...
HMGP - should be another nice day...
HMGP - yah i hear that...
HMGP - should be another nice day...
HMGP - should be another nice day...
HMGP - up 44.4444% - nice day / strong close
HMGP - up 44.4444% - nice day / strong close
Same.. Go HMGP..
HMGP - Gunna Be A Banger IMO...
HMGP - Gunna Be A Banger IMO...
HMGP - Gunna Be A Banger IMO...
fully agree - HMGP chart's lookin hot..
HMGP - Has held strong all day... Nice potential for the rest of week IMO..
HMGP - Gap tomorrow?
HMGP - Gap tomorrow?
HMGP -- gap tomorrow?
gapper tomorrow?
HMGP - Nice looking Chart..
HMGP - Chart looks nice..
HMGP - Looking Nice...
alas......we're using our headz
some later than others i guess... just hope not too many continue with their "I'm the man who's gunna be a millionnaire and don't tell me otherwise approach"..and wake up at .0001 when there is nothing left to salvage...
FGFC claims to be money lenders yet they have never shown even lending out a dollar...
ahaah Roth, yer the man...
big choone..
top 5%
GET READY, READY.... SHOOT THE MESSENGER!!!
later
Some other info.. posted by sawtooth…
Maybe FGFC is not a scam. Maybe its just the third iteration of a "hard money lending business" that started out with PRRM in 2004 and NHGP/CMSI in 2005. Lets hope this time it works becauses the first two attempts sure didn't.
No matter. There is indisputable evidence that Hayter, Astrom, Guthrie, Fauzie and now Rosenman (if there is a Rosenman) all know each other and their businesses/shells are tied together.
Its also pretty clear the HDSN does most of the trading for these guys and will sell stock in their companys until their is'nt anyone left to buy. This is clear by the trail of subpenny tickers left by these guys.
Look at PRRM, NRES, NHGP, VYNC, NRMG, IBCX, VYNC, CWFG, JMCP
Some more names and tickers to tie this all together.
CSIN, tied to Turner Hughes Inc and Damien Guthrie. Geuss who the I-Hub moderator was for CSIN??
The one and only Mighty Mouse.
Also search for Laura Anthony, Kristin Mary Ryals, Keri Wenzel. More puzzle pieces.
I'm not sure if Hayter and Astrom are outright crooks or just poor businessman who keep on reinventing themselves with new shells and companies.
Regardless, scam or fledgling business, FGFC is definitely tied to it all.
Now lets look at Ed Hayter. Heres his brief synopsis.
- He now is CEO of IBCX. Connected to Astrom, Guthrie, etc
- It looks like he also buys the shell of Millenium Direct from a guy named George Balis (a convicted scam artist). Its not clear to me what the relationship between Hayter and Balis is.
- Millenium Direct turns into "Viyon Corp" VYNC.
- Viyon Corp shortly turns into First Guardian Financial FGFC in Feb of 2006
Ed Hayter also owns Turner Hughes Corporation. Their client list includes BuySellMerge.com, Windsor Capital, and Cosmos Group (Fauzie M. comes into play again)
Now lets look at NHGP or "National Hospitality Group". Heres a brief synopsis of this company which existed in 2005.
-CEO Ed Hayter
-Ended up with Tampa Bay Mortgage (hard money lending from Astrom's PRRM) and the Pine Bluff Hotel (with money lent to it from Astrom's PRRM).
- From the press releases They were going to reduce shares, provide audited financials, and go OTC BB.
- Nothing much amounted from this shell and it turned into CMSI "Corporate Mortgage Solutions Inc"
- It was run by a fellow named Damien Guthrie and was still going to give hard money lending a go.
- Finally The Arkansas Hotel ended up as IBAC Corporation or IBCX with Ed Hayter as CEO.
- It appears that Tampa Bay Mortgage disappeared never to be heard from again and CMSI turned into a wallpaper company that eventually changed its symbol to BPWW
I wanted to believe too. But like Likwit DD prevailed and the true story is unfolding. I still hold a few shares just in case my due diligence is wrong.
This all started in 2004 with a company called "Prime Rate Investors" PRRM. Here is a brief synopsis of PRRM
- CEO Richard Astrom
- Main operating subsidiary was "Tampa Bay Mortgage Solutions" a hard money mortgage lender.
- Did a 1 for 10 forward split. Planned on going OTC BB
- Planned on providing audited financials. Reducing shares.
- Loaned $1 million to an Arkansas Hotel complex in Pine Bluff. The company that owned the hotel was NHGP. Its CEO was Ed Hayter.
- Hired "Windsor Capital" to help it acquire a NE hard money mortgage lender.
- Finally Richard Astorm and PRRM went their separate ways. Astrom with Tampa Bay Mortgage and PRRM with a TV station they acquired.
- Astrom eventually sold or transferred " Tampa Bay Mortgage" to NHGP. Ed Hayter is now owner of Tampa Bay Mortgage and the Pine Bluff Hotel.
The most damning DD is that PRRM did a Regdex 504 filing which is basically used to issue shares. Wien Securities handled the share issuance. Geuss who bought Wein?? Hudson securities did. Geuss what their listing symbol is?? Its HDSN our friends who are currently pounding the stock every day. HDSN has sold 275 mm shares of FGFC this year. Where do you think they are getting this stock.
lol....
enjoy your weekend.
i can't even believe your saying that....
this used to be what ibcx is today
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=011758;p=72
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=ICAN&read=40
we all know about Viyon which is what FGFC is today..
how many times does it have to be done man??
if it's SOOO entirely impossible for the O/S to be larger than what the company is reporting than go tell all those people that they DIDN'T in fact lose money to dilution and that they don't know what they are talking about...
how is it we traded about 80 million shares a week ago with an O/S of 150 and as many restricted as you guys are claming... come on..
IMO post # 13152 says it all .... happy trading
cosmosgroup.....whoops...
bet you they get that one fixed ASAP.
IMO everyone should read post #13152... later
sounds good...
"The broker that helped me with some other stocks that made me a lot of money did some research for me, while I was gone. You will here it from me first. Get ready in the next four weeks this stock will take off. This stock has every sign of a real buy back. There is shorting going on and it will have to cover soon. I was told not to sell and even buy another million if my money was there. I was told this could go up over a dollar and then come back down to .30 to .40 and stay for a while. The share structure and the shorting is going to cause panic buying. The AF are coming soon to prove a profit."
sounds good...
"The broker that helped me with some other stocks that made me a lot of money did some research for me, while I was gone. You will here it from me first. Get ready in the next four weeks this stock will take off. This stock has every sign of a real buy back. There is shorting going on and it will have to cover soon. I was told not to sell and even buy another million if my money was there. I was told this could go up over a dollar and then come back down to .30 to .40 and stay for a while. The share structure and the shorting is going to cause panic buying. The AF are coming soon to prove a profit."
congratulations, you have uncovered that I at one point believed in this puppy and was promoting the shyte... everybody knows that and if you go back about ten posts you will see that I was the one who quoted that..want more, check post 13981...
what were you trying to prove buy showing I used to big FGFC??
that what I am saying now should be looked at as 'REAL' valid since I was at one point an investor??... or that I have changed my mind after uncovering some questionable connections and shouldnt be considered..
cuz im confused..
heres some more anyway.. maybe it'll help prove whatever it is you are trying to...
Posted by: likwit
In reply to: None Date:10/16/2006 6:23:18 PM
Post #of 13980
another step in the right direction with the NOBO list...
Buyback's almost done:
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Posted by: likwit
In reply to: None Date:10/14/2006 2:37:09 PM
Post #of 13980
the longs here are going to wait for at least the end of the month and the buyback completion results.... nothing will change that... i'm waiting to see what happens and am fully prepared to wake up Monday and find FGFC doesn't trade anymore.. if your not prepared for this then your in over your head... if you want the $1 reward you have to accept the other side aswell.. once someone purchases a stock and goes long... they realise this and are doing it because they are willing to take the risk and have seen enough good to justify such in their minds...
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Posted by: likwit
In reply to: None Date:9/10/2006 10:47:10 AM
Post #of 13980
for anyone that brings up that Edward Hayter is involved...
here is his cell phone # ... 908-400-3760
there is a page on him here:
http://72.14.207.104/searchq=cache:0NAJqxZqTAQJ:www.ibacnews.com/+%22Edward+Hayter%22+scam&hl=en....
you could just phone and ask him whatever questions you want and find out thw whole story for yourself...
now that's DD for yah....lol
he's not involved..... I'm sure a lot of people from the past may want to chew him out tho.... lol
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Posted by: likwit
In reply to: sawtooth1 who wrote msg# 9753 Date:10/11/2006 8:18:44 PM
Post #of 13980
You want my opinion??... good cuz your going to get it...
FGFC not going anywhere based on it's PR's is not unusual.. PR's do F-All for a stock without someone behind it..i.e. brokers, PR company's, promoters etc... FGFC has none and this is the way they want it right now... it's when you see a stock posted all over the net and daily PR's when you know there is hype going on...usually dilution, and most of the time, scam.. nobody dilutes at the three month low..
We are all in early and have chosen a pink...with that comes unknowingness and therefore stressful times.. name a stock where there isn't stressful times BRK.A ??? ok... everyone has noticed the irregular trading activity with this stock and the bashing and the "apparant" selling pressure... well we are in a buyback and so all of this is not all that unusual.... the company and the insiders and perhaps if so MM's are loading the boat, so are the people who will be doing the promoting..they are keeping the price down... get the shares into safe hands... no offense but all these clowns that pop up and say they have a million shares or whatever will kill the stock when this starts getting taken up to a dollar for the move to the new exchange... look how much selling pressure we have seen at .012, and all the way up and thru the .02's... and also from the people who bought in at .004 to .007...
If your a believer, you'll buy, hoping your hopping on the free ride of the depressed share price as a direct result of the buyback and the MM's influence... You'll buy-in at the price the "big boys" are buying in at and put up with the b.s..... or you may choose the opposite and relentlessly bash and regurgitate pitiful arguments.. if your whining you have too much at risk, ease down a little and if your bashing your either waiting for financials and when they're out the stock will already be at a $1 or you yourself are involved in a much larger scheme to hopefully impact the share price to accumulate.. behnd it all, there is a gain for the basher aswell..
FGFC is doing everything it can with regards to the buyback and Rosenman purchasing shares, etc.. we have been told end of the month... that's in the reducing float and thus in the long-term increasing the share price department...
at the same time they are doing the financial department as we have seen with the million dollar profit we posted the other day, and all the other deals which are in the works.. When both departments are ready , FGFC will go to a PR company and a MM.. THEN AND ONLY THEN will the share price start its increase and it wont even be an increase it'll be a fu*king explosion...
take your pick, it's always easier to be the non-believer.. the first computer was laughed at by people like sawtooth aswell.. it's the 'few' that believe and get up and make sh*t work....
sawtooth1 states: "My gut is there is more to this one than we know."
Your absolutely right, and your not in the know right now...that information is for the much larger players in the whole scheme of things at this point in time...when your in the know the PPS will be at $1 and the financials will be out... so be a believer, take a little risk, try to forsee the future... or wait for the financials confirmation and by-in when the stocks at a $1 and then where will you be looking for it to go? But we already know where you stand and nothing anybody says even financials will change you from trying to find another thing to pick at... heck.. it's your job :P
k ill leave for a while...
promote your scam...
like I;ve said a million times... i dont want to believe the worst is true and neither does anyone else... so lets get something showing some results... they just don't..
sorry for irritating those who are trying to screw over others to get their money back...
this thing's just about over... it was just pointed out how all the bottom feeders are starting to flock in... guess they're gunna all become millionnaires too..
later
...."likwit, thanks.. there is definately something not right here. without the con's, people get over-zealous and jump right into something they probably shouldn't have.. you've helped me a number..."
.... "likwit, thanks for the extensive DD you've done. I was tempted by FGFC for a moment because a couple of friends liked it. Posts like yours kept me away. Thanks...."
.... "your doing the right thing, don't let them tell you different.."
... "likwit....Think you did the right thing by exiting man. Do I understand it right that the website that FGFC bought (nationwidere) is on sale on ebay for $199.99. Didn't FGFC pay 30 Million restricted shares for this? I really do believe that the company could be a scam. I have even emailed the company a few weeks ago and told them that. I think the company is very happy that I am a long gone stockholder.
....Best of luck to you man. Give them hell on the board....they need a little reality as they are all in a "State of Denial".
..want more??
..your constant ranting of the same buyback is almost done etc etc is loosing people money...i hope your proud... the buyback started in June?? 5 months ago...