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I personally don't think we will get anywhere near 50 million. I hope we will but in the real world I don't think it will happen. You are correct about the amount that can be made but this company is going to be dissolved which means we won't see that either.
Grey Market is definitely not a good place to be. Seems like the bottom of the barrel
I would hope the receiver contacts Tmobile ,Verizon ,AT&T,Drago and anyone else that would like to bid on the patent. Then put the patent up on a live auction block and let them have at it. Seems this will take a few years to bring all this together that's ok a couple more years of waiting we all should be used to that. On a different note I have started legal proceedings against Dave Williams.
S hag not to create an argument but I think the 90 day stay was a farce. It was initiated by Clyw Tmobile would go along for the fact that it kept them out of court.
Great find!!
Thanks Elis
All the self appointed BOD should get zero! Then sued!
GORDON you are a moderator you can make it a sticky.
Looks as if I will be having a huge write off on my taxes next year. Someone posted at least Drago gets zip. I am pretty sure he will bid on the patent, if he wins then he goes after all the infringers. It's a lose one win several for him.
The only info I have is talk about the DW vote,the settlement terms and conditions,and tha chance of us going into receivership. Sorry nothing else.
I will listen to my audio recording and post any findings.
Ok I'll contact the receiver to see what is going on and see if he needs any additional information. Although I don't think that their isn't anything that I might know that he doesn't. But what the heck I'll ask anyway. If I find anything out I will post.
BOD was greedy , thought they could get more. Just an observation.
This grapevine , does it have a link maybe?
All I commented on was DW voted which says he thought it was a legal vote. Then he decides it was the wrong thing to do and tries to retract his vote. His anger issues is what has caused most all of clyw's problems.
He voted! Doesn't make any difference if he was upset or not, he voted. If Dave Williams wanted what was best for the shareholders , I don't think this is it. I know I keep going back and blaming DW for Clyw being crap but when you read what the judge thinks of him , you can't help it. I'm not saying its all DW's fault we are where we are , it's not. But it is mostly his fault.
This isn't doing anything.
This is going to be my last post for today. Sorry I know a lot of y'all will be upset,don't worry I will be back. S HAG you ask me why I question you and not Sosa well I haven't caught Sosa in a lie. One of your own replies to me a while back was you don't know BL. You working personally with DW and BL and not knowing that they are one in the same. You choosing a higher priced copying fee than what was put out on ihub. Defending DW even after what was found out about him.
You went to the trial and was informing us of the wrongs CT and KP were doing but neglected to say anything of what was said about DW and EW. Did not inform us of DW posting on ihub as BL or the insider trading DW admitted to.
Now your wanting to be the go between guy for shareholders
Patting yourself on the back about all the things you have done. Saying how honest and truthful you are. Sounds like a politician to me.
I personally don't have anything against you other than you are or were in DW corner. Just as I would not expect anyone to want me to be the go between guy. I don't care if you think you are innocent of all the accusations or not , you have been on the side of someone that has damaged Clyw to the point of being dissolved
You have a pretty good following and I respect that and maybe one day I might not think the way I think about you. But for now with who you defend and what I have witnessed on ihub j don't trust you
Again people this is just my opinion of S HAG so don't go by my word to judge him. Do your own DD. thanks
That's another issue. Privately doesn't bring it out so everyone knows. My opinion,we are where we are due to the fact that to much has been done in private with this already.
I haven't agreed with you on anything before. I totally agree with this post. Have a good one. Hope we do see something out of this also.
Ok I agree but so do Dave and Ed.
I am not trying to discredit you. I am just saying we don't need anyone that had any dealings with the ex BOD trying to help. I would love to get what I have against you out in the open for all to see, I know that if I did it would be deleted. So why waste my time.
I feel if we are going to have someone from Dave Williams aka Ben Lurkins side talking to the receiver we need someone that is for the shareholders talking to the receiver as well, so that the receiver is not getting one sided info. This is the only way I would feel that the shareholders would be getting a fair shake unlike in the past when we were all kept in the dark. Don't know who would make a good representative for the shareholders but it would have to be a non bias person which leaves me and most on this board out. Any suggestions? I did think about the New unelected CTO just a thought. Don't know if he would even want to do it.
Cougar6 I didn't give any excuse for anything. The ex-management also includes the Dave Williams , Ed Walsh combo that put false info out as well as insider trading etc. but that's all ok cause y'all think Dave Williams is a saint. Every bit of proof y'all show of CT or KP doing something wrong I take it in stride. On the other hand every bit of proof others or myself or the judge shows that DW or EW did wrong y'all just look the other way and it seems that it's ok.
I would love to get between 100m and 1B. But in the real world maybe if we are lucky 5m so yes I am worried.
You do realize when anyone talks to the receiver via phone , text, e-mail, that it is billable time. I don't think it would be wise to take up the receivers time with the lame context on this board. Nothing against anyone but I wouldn't want any monies we might get having to pay receiver for time he had to take up listening to non qualified shareholders ramblings. This statement is not meant to insult or degrade anyone. Thank you
No one had a problem with Dave Williams doing it. There is no more BOD. I'm just glad to see the moderator staff getting a less one sided. Congrats Sosa !
Drago can bid on the patent if it goes up for auction and he could possibly get all of clyw's patent. So as for Dave Williams thinking he won I think he'll be the biggest loser of all for Drago gets patents and Dave Williams loses all his ill gotten monies after we shareholders that believe he has wronged us is sued by us. I know some Shareholders think he helped Clyw. I admit he did help but he hurt Clyw more than he helped. The judge even basically said Dave was a liar and failed at his duties along with his puppet Ed.
Your right and in my opinion the only way the BOD could get more shares is to do a reverse split. Only my opinion.
None of the BOD was elected. I say all BOD are responsible.
This is the post that S Hag posted about that.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=71986538
Who do I need to talk to about having the intro message updated. All information is either outdated or wrong. None of the un elected BOD should be on there. I think the message should be the judges ruling and the name of the receiver that's about all. Until further 411 is put out.
Now that the judge has said none of the BOD are legal, none performed accordingly. So my opinion the more a person harps on and comments on themselves of how upfront and honest they are just makes them sound like more of a liar than ever. So with that I conclude that no person or persons affiliated with any of the self proclaimed BOD should be allowed any compensation. Just to make it clear that means no BOD members.I am for me and my investment.
Sorry you are correct. I misread court charges receivers legal fees in corporate. Did find this site that had receivers fees. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CF8QFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthecourtreceiver.com%2Ffee-schedule&ei=jDI1T9CYL8fAtweLwu26Ag&usg=AFQjCNGryFv7EvUia9xBCGVeOk-5wuyIgw
Most receivers get 40% then we pay debts after that it will put it at about one cent per share. Although knowing this is a fire sale the offer would be less than anyone would like to see. Every bidder is going to hope to get this for pennies on the dollar. So if we see a penny per share that would be wishful thinking. I hope I am wrong but I think my investment is gone.
Most receivers get 40% then we pay debts after that it will put it at about one cent per share. Although knowing this is a fire sale the offer would be less than anyone would like to see. Every bidder is going to hope to get this for pennies on the dollar. So if we see a penny per share that would be wishful thinking. I hope I am wrong but I think my investment is gone.
Hello everyone.
Looking for a little 411 on BDGR that's not on the intro
Can anyone help a newbie out?
How is this thing playing out? New to this board just checking it out.