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Thanks that's the best reply I have gotten. I figured their had to be some type of tech issue with the molecule not to have moved forward with deals but just got the same news post and no explanation. So they they have to get the nanometers down. I personally don't know how difficult or important that is. If its true we are at half the power and double the speed why isn't that sufficient enough for them ? Is nanometers speed?? Im not a tech guy. If someone told me our car burns half the gas and double the speed of any car out there I would jump all over it. So that has been my mind set with this and frustration on no one getting involve with LWLG. Thanks again.
Ok then is it Deal time for the past 97 days or is it a 18 month cycle design we need to complete first or is LWLG on hold because of the little thing called CV-19. Tier 1s are still operating during CV-19. Lebby cant communicate with them through skype, phone, e-mail or fax to complete a deal of some sort. You keep avoiding that issue.
OK he said its deal time on 1/30/20. This is the 4 month since he said it but most investors see my point. All Teir 1s have been operating during this pandemic since they are essential. Most are still working from home. I see a lot of companies still putting out news and deals. Half the power/ double the speed who wouldnt want a deal ? Im sure Lebby could use skype, phone, e-mail or fax to close a deal at the safety of his home. They did a whole 4 day NFL draft and nobody left their home. There is many ways to still get things done if you want and have the initiative, drive and knowledge of computers and the internet which I'm sure Lebby knows a little about.
LOL. Where the deal??? ML said that 5 months ago and we still wait. Like most statements they just die with time with no follow through. How about the 5000 hour test results?? I keep reading on the board over and over how great our product and team management is and we cant generate a penny or ink any type of deal. The positive feed back must have some negatives with it.Why wouldn't anyone want the holy grail of modulators? Half the power/ double the speed.
I guess they have a NDA with the shareholders also. LOL
When was the last time LWLG put out a detailed press release on any test results ?? All we basically get is a very vague non detailed shareholder letter here and there. Half the power and double the speed is the most detail we get. Everybody saw the detailed press release INTEL put out on their modulator.
Haven't busted pass a dollar in a year or so. If those research computer models were right with all stocks we would all be wealthy beyond our dreams.
Down goes Tyson!!! Down goes Tyson!!!
Exactly people on this board promote LWLG more then the management of LWLG and the marketing people they hired. What do they actually pay the marketing department to do?? I know it's deal time !!! LOL
Lebby said it's deal time 4 months ago. Would be nice to get a update on the deals or low - medium - massive orders.
I hope the PPS is going up because of a simple PPP loan.
THANKS.That what i was thinking but to me its all part of their business model.
If not business related what else is there ?
Where are the deals and low to high volume orders we have been hearing about??
Would be nice and add some credibility if LWLG could show us a prototype like INTEL did and description. Thats what most mean when they just want a little proof of something they are saying. I only remember that one picture from years ago with the wires but nothing like INTELs. Heck I would settle for a picture of someone working in the lab or office at this point. Have a nice picture of the PIC award though.
Never said it was a scam or Lebby was a scam. Anyone who has been involved as long as I have know exactly what I mean. How you feel about LWLG and Lebby now with their progress is exactly how I felt 10 years ago. Investors say give Lebby a chance he is not like the others. Heard the same thing when the Admiral took over with all the government contacts.
Yea this company is run more like a private company then publicly trading company. They do just enough to keep compliant with the SEC. File paperwork and do their annual shareholder meeting. The shareholders and PPS mean very little to these guys. When they move to the brand new spacious lab with the clean rooms they said this would streamline things with production and testing. Not really seeing a difference.
Most responsible companies have given corona virus updates and guideline on how this has affected their business plans and what their strategy is moving forward. The only thing we know is lebby cant travel and attend conferences.
--Is the lab still operating at least at a limited basis ?
--Is the 5000 hours of testing complete or was that stopped by the corona virus? Any updates results on testing we all know they are way past the time frame stated.
--What is the progress on developing the final prototype ?
-- The virtual interview was good but they always skate around any details of business progress and just talk about our product and the future which we have heard a thousand times what it means to the market place but never how close we are to achieving that.
--- Wouldn't it be nice to wake up one day to some kind of break through news.
All tier 1s are still operating and haven't shut down. Lebby said its deal time. In case he hasn't notice you can still make deals by phone, email or fax. LWLG has a limited amount of employees and a large space only a few need to be there to work in the lab so i'm sure there is enough room for social distance and safety. Telecommunication and data is a essential business in Colorado.
I agree. They haven't even designed the final prototype or tested it yet. They have been working with Tier 1s for a while now and they haven't offered a deal so there has to be a technical issue they cant resolve to their specifications. Its the only thing that makes sense for them not offering a deal for years now.
You know things are bad when all we have to talk about is lebbys jacket or dress code. It's deal time!! LOL
I still want to know how there can be massive orders when we still haven't even designed or tested the final prototype.
Probably because the same old people sing the same old loser song that deals can happen and they don't.People get tired of hearing the same old deal messages as much as the negative deal messages but so far the negative messages have been right.
The technology is way beyond the tipping point and is already named in IPSR international road map as the future heartbeat of photonics. So why hasnt anyone scooped us up, made a deal or partnership yet? Thats what is confusing to the same old people.
How can it be deal time 2 months ago when they still haven't completed final steps or the design of the initial prototype. Then they will have to do hours of testing of the initial prototype which we know seems to take over 6 months. What were they going to order 2 months ago or now when we still haven't designed or tested the initial prototype. Doesn't make sense.
They are doing final steps before INITIAL DESIGN in which starts TIME of revenue as ML has told investors.
- How long will the initial prototype design take???
- Will they have technical issues with the initial prototype???
-Will they sell the initial prototype without testing in house or with the IC vendor???
This all sounds like we are far from making deals, orders or revenues in the near future. Just going by LWLG protocols in the past with all molecules, prototypes and designs of any kind. Testing-Testing-tweaking and more testing.
Ok he said on Jan 30th "Its deal time!" Today is April 6th ????? Not trying to TRUNCATE any of this text or Manipulate investors just wondering where is the deal and massive, medium or even low orders.
One way to stop that is get your company in a position to start producing revenue.
The best was at the Hilton ASM at least 12 years ago in Delaware and I know everyone there remembers this statement. THE FUSE HAS BEEN LIT !!!!
I was not wrong then they were. I just invested on the very positive information provided to me by management and Fred. If they had informed me that they were having many technical issues and difficulty producing a modulator for production and would take 15-20 years I would of not invested. I was given a 2 year time frame for production and signing with major players.I figured there is always delays so I figured 4 maybe 5 years. I been married for 20 years and have many long time friends so im not really concerned about looking attractive to anyone.
Am I wrong or am I right? That is the million dollar question. I'm one of the initial investors that helped get Fred out of his garage and in a real lab.I have every right to sell at anytime that is true but I also have the right to complain as a shareholder.They are no where close to any time frame I was given in the beginning when they were first raising money and each raise to follow by Fred and each of the 3 previous CEO's before Lebby.I even added a 5 year buffer handicap for technical issues. You have to admit the lack of press releases from a publicly trading company is shocking. The first few years there was at least 1-2 significant press releases a month keeping us informed on their progress. The only updates or progress we get is a shareholders letter every 4 months or press releases on lebby's conference schedule. When was the last significant press release not shareholder letters on test results (5000 hours) or progress of any kind.That is what investors and NEW investors want to know.
Its LWLG fault that we are not on the radar of the general investing public by now.
Its LWLG fault that we are not on the radar of the general investing public by now.
Dont worry i wont hold you to it and bring up the post a year from now LOL
What is your estimate that we will see the final prototype and revenue sells?
Ok proto im done venting. Dont know how long your history goes back with TDON or LWLG. I was sitting in Queens office back in 2003 with Fred Goetz when it was only him and Adrew still working out of Fred's garage. I actually had the original green molecule in my hand. I was told then that was holy grail and once testing was completed they would be signing deals with major players in the tech field and government contracts. The testing results were off the chart and no contracts were signed. Its just difficult to believe that was stated in 2003 and in 17 years we still do not have a working prototype or revenue.
After that interpretation of the 2017 shareholders letter i would take it easy on throwing the word challenged around.
We are rapidly executing the strategy and we are looking towards 2018 to be the initial fruits of our labor.
Lets do a interpret poll of that statement by others on the board. I assuming that you interpreted that like i do thats why you wrote sells in 2018 in your post.
How many interpret fruits of our labor as sells and revenue ?
Can you post the link to the entire letter. Im not sure if your interpretation is wrong again.
Proto what does what he said at the 2019 ASM have to do with what he said in 2017. Regardless of what he said at the ASM in 2019. Why would he say in 2017 that the 800 gbs prototype was in its final stages of testing and their would be sells in 2018.
I wrote that based on what he said that prototype was complete and we going to see sells in 2018. Yes you are 100% correct i dont agree with doing a great job anymore. I was mislead.
Proto you told me to go back and find something from 2018 to prove my point. So i did one better and went back to 2017. So you are saying that Dr Lebby did not say anything like that on that post and it was poor interpretation by you.(LOL) Like final stages of 800 Gbs prototype and beyond and sells in 2018 to say the least. What did you get wrong in the interpretation? I may not understand all the PAM4 tech stuff but he did say final stages in 2017 and sells in 2018. No one would misinterpret that its pretty much straight forward. I guess now your saying he should of really said we are in the final stages of our 800 Gbs prototype which will take a additional 18-24 months its a long long process to complete before sells in 2020-2021-2022 ???
I can even go back further but just wanted to post shareholders letters/updates since Dr. Lebby has been CEO.