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OT: I would have thought that you could be of some help.... Think back 2 years about how you were feeling after game 7 of the World Series; you know the feeling.
Humility is another subject that Yankee fans are not familiar with - lol.
It wasn't just the Kurds... He was doing away with the rest of the Iraqi citizens at a pretty good clip also. You are correct that we wouldn't be there just to give them a better life though. If that were the criteria we would have to invade at least half the countries in the world. He has used chemical weapons against both Iran and his own people in the past so I don't think he was restrained for humanitarian reasons. It was learned after the first conflict in 1991 that he didn't use WMDs because he beleived that we would nuke him. He might still be paranoid enough to believe that today. By the time he was getting desperate, we had already overrun him and the speed of that action probably precluded his use of them if in fact they are even weaponized at this point. We will find out in due time.
"Americans will be Iraq forever. Period!" There you go playing Madam Cleo again. Considering your track record with predictions, this doesn't seem likely.
The economy is always important to voters but the election is a year and a half away so we will have to see how things are going then. The Democrats aren't just going to have a problem if they choose Leiberman - they are so disorganized with so few concrete ideas that they don't have much of a chance unless they get off the program of complaining about Bush and start putting forth some positive ideas about what they would do different. Antis seldom win elections... the electorate wants to hear what the candidate is going to do to improve their lot in life - they already know what they do or don't like about the current situation. You know.... "A chicken in every pot."
I am pleased that no chemical weapons were used and think that we can thank our soldiers for a swift and efficient campaign. The Iraqi people can thank the President (no matter what derogatory name you wish to call him by) for being freed from the opression of a vicious, murderous dictator. I have no idea how you think Bush will personally reap any reward from this excerise other than politically, having proven his critics wrong.
If the administration does what they say (and they have so far) we will see a short occupation. Whether or not the Iraqis are able to govern themselves in a better manner remains to be seen, but at least they have the opportunity.
You should look over your posts from the last month and admit that you were wrong and that your predictions were baseless. It wasn't a miracle that we had so few casulties.... it was the result of a well-equipped, well-trained, military that was allowed to do its job without undue interference from the President unlike what happened in military actions under the Johnson, Carter, and Clinton administrations where their meddling resulted in disaster for our troops. While my personal experience is limited to Johnson and Viet Nam, I am sure that those soldiers involved in the Iranian Embassy rescue and Somolia would agree with me.
It kind of reminds me of the story of the Little Red Hen from childhood.
No one wanted to get the flour to bake the cake.....
No one wanted to collect the firewood to bake the cake.....
No one wanted to stir the ingrediants to bake the cake.....
Everyone wanted to help eat the cake when it was done.
The Little Red Hen told them to f*** off. (Maybe that wasn't exactly how she put it in the story but you get the idea)
OT: Minddoc - Things are not going so well out here.... I would think that someone in your line of work would be kinder and gentler toward those of us suffering from GLS (Game Loss Syndrome)
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OT: Well.... If you can't get a win for $150 million I guess there is no point in even trying.....
It is certainly a better sign than when they are selling - lol.
MSN Money was making a bad pun - lol.
O'Leary and Bailey have been buying at the present price level.
03/14/03 O LEARY ROBERT W Purchased 3,000 $8.59 $25,770
03/12/03 O LEARY ROBERT W Purchased 8,000 $8.63 $69,000
03/11/03 BAILEY BARY GLEN Purchased 10,000 $8.80 $88,000
ICN Pharmaceuticals, Inc.: Company Report
There's no Panic at ICN Pharmaceuticals. The firm, once led by CEO Milan Panic (now only a director), makes and sells a variety of drugs including antibiotics, painkillers, tranquilizers, and hormones. Its best-known product is the highly-hyped antiviral ribavirin, Virazole. The drug is approved in the US to treat pediatric lung infection and as part of a two-drug regime for hepatitis C. It is also used to treat herpes, influenza, chicken pox, and HIV. ICN also sells research chemicals, diagnostics (immunoassay and neonatal diagnostic kits), dosimetry (radioactivity monitoring services), and medical equipment. The company's products are sold in more than 90 countries worldwide.
Against Minnesota? lol
AT&T isn't the type of company that Buffet would look twice at. It's remaining business is declining and has no pricing power. Debt is 1 1/2 times assets. They lost $12 billion last year.
Read your PMs.... I ragged on them directly to you - lol.
The cruel remark about Dodger fans was unnecessary.....
Nice day. If HRCT can hold this volume for the next 5 days we might have something going.....
Try Arnett for treason, senator says
WASHINGTON - Correspondent Peter Arnett should be "tried as a traitor" for remarks he made in an interview with Iraqi state television, Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky., said Tuesday.
Arnett, a New Zealand native and naturalized U.S. citizen, said in the Sunday interview that Washington's "first war plan has just failed because of Iraqi resistance. ... Clearly, the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces."
NBC and its related network, for which the longtime war reporter had been covering the conflict from Baghdad, dismissed Arnett despite his apologies Monday. Later the same day, London's anti-war Daily Mirror hired him. In Arnett's first report for that paper, he retracted his apology.
"I think he should be brought back and tried as a traitor to the United States of America, for his aiding and abetting the Iraqi government during a war," Bunning said in a conference call with reporters. Later in a speech on the Senate floor, Bunning said: "Mr. Arnett can apologize all he likes for being a `useful idiot' for Saddam and his barbaric regime. But that's not enough for me, and it's certainly not enough for our soldiers and many Americans."
"I think Mr. Arnett should be met at the border and arrested should he come back to America," said Bunning.
April 02, 2003
One in three French backs Saddam
By Charles Bremner and Alan Hamilton
ILL-FEELING between Britain and France over the invasion of Iraq has plumbed new depths with the desecration of that most sacred of memorials, a war cemetery.
The defilement of Commonwealth war graves in northern France coincided with a poll for The Times which found that 54 per cent of Britons no longer regarded France as a close ally because of its opposition to the war.
Relations will be further rent by a second poll, in Le Monde, showing that only a third of the French felt that they were on the same side as the Americans and British, and that another third desired outright Iraqi victory over “les anglo-saxons”.
Eleven thousand Allied soldiers lie buried in well-tended peace at Etaples, on the Channel coast near Le Touquet, victims of the struggle by Anglo-Saxons to liberate the French from the German invaders during the First World War.
Last week the obelisk raised in their memory was defiled by red-painted insults such as “Rosbeefs go home”; “May Saddam prevail and spill your blood”; and, in a reference to the long-dead casualties beneath the manicured turf, “They are soiling our land”.
Local gendarmerie have launched an inquiry, but have so far found no clues. They say there had been no significant demonstrations against the war in that area of France.
The graffiti have been scrubbed off, but the incident has provoked outrage among British politicians, war graves staff and the few remaining relatives of those buried at Etaples. French politicians have joined the condemnation.
Bruce George, Labour chairman of the Commons Defence Committee, said: “Remembering what sacrifice these men made for the liberation of France, I cannot believe any mature, sane person would be so stupid as that.”
David Uffold, 63, a Shropshire farmer, is the only surviving relative of Rifleman Frederick Uffold of the London Regiment, who is buried at Etaples. “I find it sickening that anyone would vandalise the cemetery,” he said. “It is the last place they should be protesting about Iraq. These fellows were drafted in to fight for France. I can’t see any connection between the men buried at Etaples and the war in Iraq.”
Peter Francis, of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, said he was disgusted that a place remembering those who died defending freedom in world wars long ago should be dragged into a current political debate.
French politicians did their best to portray the desecration as an isolated act, but it nonetheless underlined anti-American and anti-British emotions running through France over what is seen there as a bungled invasion rapidly turning into a humanitarian disaster.
President Chirac’s spokesman said: “We are indignant and shocked by the desecration of the graves of soldiers who fought for our liberty.” Jean-Pierre Raffarin, the Prime Minister, said: “The Americans are not the enemy; just because we are against this war, it does not mean that we want the victory of dictatorship over democracy.”
With all the press, I am suprised that Jesse Jackson was not on the helicopter. Maybe we should look into the relationship between Jesse and Tipper - lol.
I knew they wouldn't want to leavwe anyone out.... They just announced that the rescue was begun as a result of a CIA tip - lol.
I'm sure that they will tell us next that Al Gore invented the rescue plan....
Rockwell Automation Announces Strategic Alliance With Weidmuller Holding AG
April 02, 2003 10:04:00 AM ET
MILWAUKEE--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 2, 2003--Rockwell Automation, Inc. ROK, a leading global provider of industrial automation power, control and information solutions, today announced a strategic alliance with Weidmuller Holding AG. This includes a series of relationships that will enhance Rockwell Automation's position as a leader in providing IEC connection products. The multi-dimensional alliance consists of: a master brand label agreement; a technology/design exchange; joint product development; and, the acquisition of Weidmuller's North American sales assets.
As a result of this acquisition, Rockwell Automation will assume responsibility for Weidmuller's sales operations in North America, which includes about 170 employees operating in Richmond, Va., Markham, Ontario and Puebla, Mexico.
Connection products play a key role in linking various factory automation devices and represent an increasing percentage of total system value. The alliance broadens Rockwell Automation's access to leading products and technology increasing its global scale which is important to growing sales in its components business.
"This alliance is a key step forward in the growth strategy of our components business," said Ted Crandall, senior vice president, Rockwell Automation. "Very quickly, we are better able to help customers in North America gain access to this leading technology. Also, through this alliance with Weidmuller, we will have the ability to integrate contemporary connection technology on a global scale."
"This strategic partnership enables us to increase the growth potential in the North American market," said Thomas Hagen, President and CEO of Weidmuller. "With Rockwell Automation as a strong partner, Weidmuller gains strength in the market and achieves the Weidmuller vision of setting standards."
About Rockwell Automation
Rockwell Automation, Inc. is a leading global provider of industrial automation power, control and information solutions that help customers meet their manufacturing productivity objectives. The company brings together leading brands in industrial automation for Complete Automation solutions, including Allen-Bradley(R) controls and services, Dodge(R) mechanical power transmission products, Reliance Electric(TM) motors and drives, and Rockwell Software(R) factory management software. The company also is a provider of contact management technologies and applications that help companies more efficiently manage interaction with their own customers. Headquartered in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the company employs about 22,000 people serving customers in more than 80 countries.
About Weidmuller
Weidmuller is the leading manufacturer of components for electrical connection technology. The company offers a wide spectrum of products from terminal blocks and connectors to electronic components and custom connection solutions. The company also offers a market and customer-oriented product portfolio for target groups in industrial and process technology and transportation engineering. Weidmuller has a strong international orientation. Headquartered in Detmold, Germany, Weidmuller has about 2,800 employees and production facilities, sales companies and agencies in 70 countries.
Contact Information:
Rockwell Automation
Steve Smith, 414/382-5580
"The rescue operation included Air Force pilots, Marines, Navy SEALS, Army Rangers".... You mean that they didn't include the CIA, a couple of congressmen, and the Secretary of Defense hinmself?
I just watched the video of the rescue - 8 Seals flown in by Marine helicopter pilots.
It wasn't actually Army Special Forces that effected the rescue. It was Navy Seals.
Rockwell Automation pinpoints profit forecast
April 01, 2003 1:50:00 PM ET
CHICAGO, April 1 (Reuters) - Automation equipment maker Rockwell Automation Inc. (ROK) on Tuesday tightened its expected range for second-quarter earnings and said it expects to take a non-cash charge for selling an interest in a Japanese company.
The Milwaukee-based company said it now sees its second-quarter profit in a range of 24 cents to 25 cents a share, including a non-cash charge of about $8 million related to the sale of a majority of its ownership stake in Reliance Electric Limited Japan. The charge is equal to about $3 million after tax, or 1 cent per share, it said.
Rockwell Automation in March had forecast second-quarter earnings would be in a range of 23 cents to 26 cents a share, up from 21 cents a share a year earlier.
Analysts were looking for second-quarter earnings of 24 cents to 29 cents, with an average forecast of 25 cents, according to Thomson First Call.
Rockwell Automation said it sold the stake in Reliance Electric for about $10 million to ULVAC Inc. of Japan. REUTERS
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OT: Like Iraq, the Yankees are fooling themselves.... it is only a matter of time -
You know how "simulations" are.... the plan goes out the window when the first bullet is fired - lol. The real thing is always different than the computer version. How are things going without Jeter and Rivera?
The game is only a simulation..... In the real thing the D-Backs will prevail.
One game into the season and the Yankees have two of their star players on the disabled list.....
When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush. He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return." It became very quiet in the room
Fireworks ban in France
France announced today that it plans to ban fireworks at Euro Disney,following last night's display that caused soldiers at a nearby French army garrison to surrender.
Taking a page from French history, based on the fact that Napoleon used to wear a blood red vest into battle so that if wounded his blood would blend with his vest and not realizing he was wounded his troops would not lose spirit, the Modern French Army issued all troops brown pants
EDT Learning Wins Exclusive State Contract; LearnLinc Web Conferencing Software Wins in Blind Evaluation Against Other Industry Leaders
March 27, 2003 09:08:00 AM ET
PHOENIX--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 27, 2003--EDT Learning, Inc. EDT announced today the signing of a contract with a state government for the next two years. The Company won the contract through a blind evaluation process in which Web conferencing software vendors submitted their products and pricing to an independent state evaluation committee for review. The committee judged each organization on their product's functionality, stability, support, and overall value. The LearnLinc(R) software was chosen by this independent committee as having the highest overall rating among the Web conferencing market leaders competing in the evaluation.
Commenting on the announcement, James M. Powers, Jr., EDT Learning's president and chief executive officer, said, "In side-by-side comparisons, LearnLinc consistently defeats other market leaders with its more robust feature set. Although EDT operates with a smaller sales and marketing budget than the companies we compete against in the Web conferencing space (WebEx, PlaceWare, and Centra), we continue to win business by delivering superior products with excellent support and an array of award-winning services. We believe this contract will result in revenues of $500,000 to $1 million over the next two years. We see the awarding of this contract, the referrals our existing clients give us, and the demonstrated success we have over our competition in third-party evaluations as a validation of the superiority of our software."
LearnLinc will be the exclusive collaboration software for the state and their more than 50 agencies for the next two years. EDT Learning estimates that this contract will allow thousands of users within the state to take advantage of LearnLinc's virtual classroom, Web conferencing and collaboration capabilities.
I agree. Though they might get a surge if sales increase and it results in an increased net profit.
What is interesting about it? "He did not describe the proposal" If you don't know what it is how can you speculate whether or not it is any good?
Rumor of the day....
U.S. stocks sharply lower as war optimism eases
March 24, 2003 12:03:00 PM ET
(Updates to late morning)
By Haitham Haddadin
NEW YORK, March 24 (Reuters) - Stocks were pinned sharply lower by late morning on Monday, ending the previous week's big rally as investors mulled their previous optimism about the U.S.-led war on Iraq.
"I found the market way too optimistic about the quick and surgical nature of operations and it's coming to the realization that we are going to have a difficult and costly conflict," said James Luke, portfolio manager for BB&T Asset Management. "There is also stuff in the background with the economy being weak but the real driver is the Iraq war news."
Over the weekend, U.S.-led forces suffered their heaviest casualties so far, with stiff resistance from Iraqi soldiers at several towns as the push toward Baghdad continued.
Iraqi television footage of American prisoners of war gave pause to investors whose bets on a lightning-fast U.S. victory had sent the blue-chip Dow to a hefty 13 percent rise in an eight-day rally.
The tech-laced Nasdaq Composite Index sank 42.45 points, or 2.99 percent, to 1,379.39. The blue-chip Dow Jones industrials fell 271.15 points, or 3.18 percent, to 8,250.82 and the broad Standard and Poor's 500 index was off 27.70 points, or 3.09 percent, at 868.09.
On Friday, the Dow jumped 2.84 percent, the S&P rose 2.29 percent and Nasdaq added 1.31 percent, with the Dow logging its best week in more than 20 years, as investors found hope for a swift end to the Iraq war in a firestorm of missiles and bombs raining on Baghdad.
"We suspect many thought the war could have ended over the weekend," independent strategist Philip Erlanger said in Monday's issue of his newsletter. "Instead, the war news showed how costly war is in terms of human life."
No economic reports were slated for release on Monday, leaving investors to focus on the Middle East battle zone.
President Saddam Hussein said on Monday the invaders sent to topple him were trapped in Iraq after five days of war, but the U.S. commander of the invasion, General Tommy Franks, described Iraqi resistance as "sporadic" and said his forces were closing in fast on Baghdad.
More bombs shook Baghdad before and after Saddam's defiant tribute to his fighters. Shortly after he spoke, Iraq said it had shot down two U.S. Apache helicopters. Franks said two crewmen of a U.S. Apache Longbow helicopter shot down south of Baghdad were missing.
ALTRIA DOWN
Among individual issues, Dow stock Altria Group (MO) sank $1.75 to $33.29, or 5 percent. The decline came after an Illinois judge ruled Altria unit Philip Morris USA was liable in deceiving smokers into thinking "light" cigarettes were safer than regular cigarettes and ordered the top U.S. tobacco company to pay $10.1 billion in damages.
The sharp decline in Altria dented other stocks in the same sector, and sent the S&P Tobacco index <.GSPTOBA> tumbling about 5 percent. UST Inc. (UST) lost 89 cents, or 3 percent, to $28.02 and RJR Tobacco Holdings (RJR) fell $1.61, or 4.4 percent, to $34.89.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) fell $1.62, or 3 percent, to $53.05, pressuring the Dow. Wal-Mart said it still expects to meet its forecast for March sales at stores open at least a year, despite the "CNN effect" last week when potential shoppers were glued to televisions to watch coverage of the war with Iraq.
El Paso Corp. (EP) fell 34 cents to $5.79, or 5.5 percent, in active trade on the New York Stock Exchange. Standard & Poor's Ratings Services said late on Friday the outlook remains negative for the natural gas pipeline operator, which has about $18 billion of on-balance sheet debt.
Northwest Airlines Corp. (NWAC) fell 88 cents, or 10.6 percent, to $7.42. Northwest Airlines has said it was cutting 4,900 jobs -- about 11 percent of its work force -- and its flight schedule by 12 percent because of lower travel demand due to military action in Iraq, following similar actions by a number of other airlines.
Humana Inc. (HUM) lost 30 cents, or 3 percent, to $9.74. The managed health care company said on Friday it would take $30.7 million in pretax charges in the first quarter of 2003. REUTERS
Wall Street stampedes over almost any rumor..... they don't have to be true - lol.
I guess wall street doesn't like the prospect of the war lasting longer than a week..... DOW down 250 and headed South.
Since this is a country with a free press, Matt Drudge may show or not show what he wishes. The other media outlets have exercised the same right.
I personally think it is unnecessary and doesn't serve any useful purpose. Maybe I feel this way because I was unlucky enough to have witnessed these things in person during my time in the Army. War is not a pretty thing and we all already know that - more gruesome pictures don't add anything. It is interesting that many people want the media to show these types of pictures but would go bananas if one of the networks showed a couple of naked people without bullet holes in them.
Yes, the media here are slanted toward the American point of view.... why not? They are Americans after all. Keep in mind that we are getting a lot of information directly and that much of this would not be allowed in Iraq or many other countries. I'm sure they aren't hearing about any setbacks occurring on their side or about the problems such as incidents concerning friendly fire, murder committed by one of their own troops on fellow soldiers, or any opinions that vary from those of Saddam. War is a messy thing and it never goes perfectly. I wasn't in favor of engaging in this war in the first place but we are there so I will support my country's actions, hope that the loss of life is minimal and look for a conclusion as quickly as possible. I would not consider trying to undermine my country or provide anything that I thought might give comfort or support to my country's enemy. Those who are still protesting in the streets are doing just that.
Fox News' Foreign Affairs Analyst Marc Ginsberg, a former U.S. ambassador to Morocco, said Sunday that Arab television channels are reporting that the United States is angry at Russia over the GPS jamming devices, in part because the Pentagon had to slow down its bombing of Baghdad for fear that the bombs would hit civilian targets.
It will be interesting to see how much illegal material stamped, "Made in France" is uncovered.
Government control of the media exists only in your own mind...
Networks weighing whether to show video of captured American soldiers in Iraq
By DAVID BAUDER
ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEW YORK, March 23 — U.S. television networks were weighing Sunday whether to air video footage, shown elsewhere in the world, of what appeared to be American prisoners of war in Iraq.
The images were picked up from Iraqi television by the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said the Geneva Conventions make it illegal for prisoners to be pictured and humiliated, adding that ''television networks that carry such pictures are, I would say, doing something that's unfortunate.''
That left network executives with agonizing decisions involving both matters of taste and the question of whether they were letting the Pentagon influence their independent newsgathering decisions.
All of the networks said they would not show video of what was said to be an Iraqi morgue containing American bodies, saying the material was neither newsworthy nor appropriate for airing.
A snippet of the POW footage was shown on CBS, shortly after it was received from Al-Jazeera, while Rumsfeld was being interviewed on ''Face the Nation.'' The network held off from showing it again after the Pentagon asked for time to contact the families of the soldiers involved.
''I consider that a legitimate request and I don't have any qualms about agreeing to it. The issue of sensitivity to the families is valid,'' CBS News President Andrew Heyward said.
In the Iraqi television footage, at least five prisoners, including one woman, were interviewed separately. Two were bandaged. They all looked terrified, with one captive who said he was from Kansas answering his questions in a shaky voice, his eyes darting back and forth between his interviewer and another person.
ABC News President David Westin said the network was giving the Pentagon ''a reasonable period of time'' to contact the families of the POWs before airing the tape.
''I always appreciate hearing Secretary Rumsfeld's viewpoint or that of any government official that we take into account,'' Westin said. ''But we'd make our own judgment as to whether it was newsworthy.''
Representatives at NBC News, which controls both the network and the cable channel MSNBC, and Fox News Channel said the issue of airing the footage was being discussed and that no decisions had been made.
CNN aired a single still image from the POW footage that provided no identifying features. The network said it still was considering whether to air the video footage.
Associated Press Television News, which distributes video to broadcasters all over the world, initially withheld transmission of the images of the POWs as the Defense Department notified families, but later went ahead with it, said Nigel Baker, APTN's director of content.
At the same time, some of the U.S.-based networks have aired video of captured or surrendering Iraqi soldiers.
CBS said that in the pictures it has used, the captured soldiers could not be identified.
ABC doesn't want to risk an American family learning a relative is a POW by watching it on TV, but the chances of that happening with a family in Iraq are almost nil, spokesman Jeffrey Schneider said.
''The difference here is that these are Americans,'' NBC News spokeswoman Allison Gollust said.
Another issue executives must be considering in terms of airing such footage of U.S. soldiers is the wisdom of crossing the Pentagon at a time the government has agreed to let hundreds of journalists be embedded with military units. Thus far, television networks said they have been pleased with the access to action granted by the Pentagon.
AP Television Writer Lynn Elber contributed to this report.