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Sounds Like SI is back to SOP. The "in" crowd can do as they please, any that oppose them get suspended. Maybe admin fears the "in" crowd. Maybe they have a relationship with admin. Who knows? Only thing for sure is that this has been going on at SI forever. And it will only come to an end when the "in" crowd are the only ones posting there.
The only way to get kicked off at RB is too spew filth in mass quantities (thousands of posts). And then you are not prevented from signing on with a new alias and starting all over again.
For the Ills of Message boards everywhere there is but one cure...IHUB
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
There's nothing wrong your posting that you're no longer associated with IHUB, it's probably a wise thing if there are any problems in the future, it's people that are trying to interfere in something without knowing all the facts that are doing the wrong thing IMO. No good will come out of it for ANYONE, IMO.
IMHO, the problem wasn't with Bob hisself. The problem was with the group "SI Posse" that followed Bob here. They often took what were good ideas that Bob had and spun them to further their own cause. Which I believe was to create their own "playground" while Bob was in charge. Once he left that agenda became "trash IHUB". It didn't help that the spin that came out left the "Old Guard" feeling very threatened. Once the war was on Bob , unfortunately, became the focal point because the origianl proposals came from him. The spin from the posse placed Bob and Matt on opposite sides and ultimately led to the split.
Bob is actually a pretty OK Dood. I always found his posts to be intelligent and reasoned. I don't completely agree with everything he proposes, but that is what makes life interesting! I learned some things from him and I hope he learned from me as well. I wish him well.
Unfortunately as with anyone that delvelopes a following...some are good, some are bad. Just like any other group. I'd bet that sometmes Bob wishes they would just go away.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Well Said Matt!
And the reason that I have begun to allot all of my "playtime" for posting on Stocks message boards to IHUB.
BTW, I do not seek the termination of any member belonging to the group affectionately referred to as the "SI Posse". It is unfortunate that the best of that little group chose to abandon ship when Bob resigned. Some of them had considerable talents that would only benefit this community in the long run. Sadly most of those that they left to defend their position offer nothing more than anarchy. I do respect the well thought out and professionally presented post regardless of the position. Alas that has been lacking the last few days. My advice to those that would continue to respond to this drivel is...STOP! Make them come up with something better than "you are a liar" or other namecalling tactic. What truly amazed me about this version of the posse was the fact that most of them never even looked at the profile of the person(s) they were arguing with! Much of the last few days posts would never have seen the light of day because they could answer their own questions by reading the profile.
That they act this way reveals their agenda. Trash IHUB.
I do believe that you have the skills to handle the situation and I know you have the desire to take care of business. And for those that think you are too young... anyone care to venture a guess at what age Bill Gates founded Microsoft?
Lastly, I do like the name SI posse for the Anti-IHUB group...reminds me of the joke about the deputy that was captured by outlaws and kept sending his horse to fetch the sheriff's posse. 8>)
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Grammy,
Now I am really confused. Perhaps it is your wording that is causing it.
For example:
I never called anyone a liar.
followed by this from the post you reference and repeated immediately after the link.
Anthony lied to me
Now Grams, If you can please explain how the above is not calling Anthony a Liar I'd be most impressed. I might even treat you with some respect.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Matt,
Have a good evening. The wife and I are having Movienight tonight.Seems the action here was a little dull and lacked challenge anyway. I am sure any primate will be able to exchange gainsays with the SI bunch tonight.
Later.
For Grammy,
Gainsay = Yes you did. No i didn't. Yes you did. No I didn't. and so on.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
thank you for playing
(namecalling...you lose)
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Well, I'd bet that if we put this
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=111409
in front of 10 people off the street all ten of them would think you were trying to imply I might be Anthony.
Your shooting Blanks. and I'm getting bored. At least Grammy was interesting.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Hey!
Waltz in here calling people liars and such what should she get...roses?
And yes I am sure I am not Anthony.
Only have one handle, though on some other boards I have to delete the spaces or add a number at the end sometimes. Ever since Star Trek III came out bird of prey has become a popular handle.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Well Jorj,
I figure it this way, if you can't figure out that I am not Anthony you probably shouldn't be trying to advise me on how to post.
Barrel, fish, gun, boom!
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Grammy = Patricia_1
By all means, say hi. But be nice, she took a pounding last night and may not be very tolerant today.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
JB,
If Anthony has just the tinyest bit of the flair for the dramatic in him (I think he does), he'll postpone answering your question for as long as possible. Just to see how much he can vex you about the answer. If he were me, about 11:30... on Friday would be appropriate.
I guess Grammy's mad at the big bad mean old prey person!
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
My apologies, with all of your repeating of the question it appeared that you may have found my previous answer... unsatisfying.
Oh and while I'm posting...
Hi Grammy!
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
What a wonderful afternoon!
Boy, did things seem to liven up here about an hour after my last post.
JB,
Since you seem to think I have some information about Anthony, I am going to suggest you check out my personal profile. Feel free to visit any of the links contained therein. After a few minutes it should become clear to you that not only am I not Anthony from Market Fushion, but also that I (unlike many wannabe flamethrowers) make no attempt to hide who or what I am.
BTW, Somewhere on VOICE I believe is the story of how I got my handle Bird of Prey. Should be recommended reading for all thread-anarchists.
ta ta
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
I'm betting on Regrouping. They won't quit this easily. It is possible that some notes are being compared, but basically they have had their heads handed to them. Some are a little too dense to recognize that, none the less it is true.
I think what has thrown them is the level of resistance they ran into here at IHUB. They got used to winning handily at SI and expected the same here.
I had hoped for better competitors. But it has been awhile since I took on thread-anarchists. Things really haven't changed all that much in twenty years. The folks that insist on being allowed to bully whoever they want generally don't like moderators.
Anyway, only one way to deal with a bully...bully 'em!
I'll be out most of this afternoon so hold down the fort will ya?
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Me? Namecalling? please post the exact instance.
As I recall, you came in brandishing (excuse me, waving wildly about) your charges of Liar and then get bent out of shape when you get called on it.
Funny how when your big charge gets tossed back at you you immediately try to pick on the irrelevant. So, with no argument that will hold water and no effective means of refuting me, you now resort to the diminuative reference (child, son etc.) in an effort to gain the upper hand.
I thought you said I wasn't having an effect on you. I meant nothing. "Bash away" you said. If that is true than why the need to continue? Methinks thou hath a burr in thine saddle.
You demand an apology from one that you called a liar, and you expect to be allowed to talk to me as if you contained the wisdom of the world. Talk about arrogant.
'tis a pity, I had hoped you might be a worthy opponent considering your reputation.
IMHO, your nickname was misapplied.
thank you for playing.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Good point. Isn't it interesting how they seem to think it is OK for Stockaholic, Patricia & JB to assualt you from three fronts, but take umbrance when anyone else begins poking holes in their assertions?
And even more interesting how they run and cry "no fair" when they get whipped at their own game.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Sorry to disappoint you ma'am but that does not prove Anthony a liar.
It does prove that Anthony would support Matt exploring the IDEA of a review board. Nothing more or less.
Matt's post only indicates that he is opposed to a review board. It does not refute any statement made by Anthony.
As for barbs... it appears you can dish it out but recoil at the mere prospect of having to take it. Given your apparent disdain for the creative mind I doubt very seriuosly that i would have ever applied to work in one of your sweatshops.
Age I will grant you. Wisdom does not always follow longevity.
"Do Hitmen count as Professionals?"
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Actually I have a sponsorship open...you interested?
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
I think LA Times and NY Times have integrity. I don't think ihub does. I don't think stock promoters do. I don't think company PR and IR teams generally do, especially at otcbb companies. Market Fusion is targeting otcbb companies only.
Please! I can't take anymore! My sides hurt! You used NY & LA Times and integrity in the same sentence! And then repeatedly reminded us that you don't think!
I am beginning to get the impression that your previous currency (Re: your picture) has begun to depreciate, and you lack the necessary skills to progress without that currency.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Your "questions" were rhtorical in nature. That is to say they implied an answer at the time they are posed.
By implying that if I wasn't Anthony, I should not have responded to Patricia's assault and then by actually posing the "Are you Anthony?" you called into question my integrity. You implied a possible multiple alias. That is as much an attack as if I were to ask you...
"Do you still beat your wife?"
"Know your enemy" - Sun Tzu
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Given the number of persons claiming to have been discriminated against by various alleged means here at IHUB, We should be taxing the limitations of our investigative staff in no tiime at all.
Unless, of course they have no underlying basis. In which case this may turn out to be a most desolate landscape.
As for refreshments...BYO!
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Well, since I didn't ask who you were but asked if you were Anthony, feel free to ask me if I'm anyone you'd like ....
The cast of characters intrigues me .. your reflex defense of Anthony without knowing if the allegation were true, seemed preordained .....
Translation: I prefer to launch thinly veiled attacks
from the perceived security of anonymity.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Can I ask why you are speaking for Mr. Money ? This post was not directed to you for reply ....
Are you Anthony ?
Your first question is moot since you went ahead and askied anyway. I repsonded to Patricia's post because she presented a derogatory statement without providing the underlying basis.
No I am not Anthony.
Quid pro quo
Who are you? and what business is it of yours who I challenge when they call someone a liar without showing proof of the lie?
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Doesn't that sound kinda funky coming from someone who is out to bust scams?
reminds me of that nasty...grinding...George Clinton (no relation to Bill)...Atomic Dog...one nation under a groove kinda funk if you ask me.
It probably even deserves the original spelling.
F-U-N-Q-U-E
pronounced as two syllables Fun-que.
Enjoy!
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Anthony lied to me,
Prove it.
so what does his word mean anyway.
on the internet, in a chat room or message board, it carries the same wieght as anyone elses.
Will disregard what he has to say in his posts as I he was not truthful and makes statements to pacify people, with empty words, no real solutions to legitimate problems, just as he did me.
Prove it.
What good is a man if his word is no good.
Same as anyone that would misrepresent the facts
Really a shame and I will not recommend iHub to some people who were considering possibly advertising their business on this site with a banner, plus having a really neat thread here because of this.
I sure that this massive revenue stream will single handedly bring about IHUB's downfall.
Did you crochet those brass knuckles? 8>)
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Thanks for the compliment. I am also a student of human nature. We are a most fascinating species.
Best to you and yours.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
I did not say "Inside IHUB", I said insider. Kirk Douglas and Martin Sheen's boys made a movie about exactly what I speak of.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
I have 'abdicated' neither of my personal theads
I did not name anyone specifically. I only referred to those threads wherein the former Chair had indicated IN THE IBOX that they would no longer be active on IHUB. If you did not state openly that you would be leaving IHUB then I was not referring to you.
i checked my first post on the thread and found it deleted
Perhaps your reputation precedes you. 8>)
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
They are the rantings of a wannabe. She wishes to be an insider. She has the ambition to do whatever it takes to achieve her goal. Frustrated at the effort reqiured to earn an insiders position, she seeks to obtain what she wants through other, more questionable means (ie. hacking). One can only wonder what she will escalate to should her current strategy fail to produce the desired result.
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Thank you. you have been added as a director. I look forward to your input when requests for investigations are made.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Was not referring to you. I am glad to hear you are continuing to perfom your functions as a CoB. That is a good thing.
On another topic... I was wondering if you or one of your compatriots would consider serving as a director on the following board:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=110228
Considering that there has been much discussion concerning protecting the innocent from scams and such, I have refocused the intent and function of this board to aid in ferreting out those that would abuse the internet for the purpose of lining their pockets. Several of your associates have given much bandwidth to discussing who might be operating such scams and I feel that one of you should be a director in order to help in policing both IHUB and the rest of the net. I will understand if you choose to decline.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
I am presently seeking an additional director to help in determining the validity of a request for an investigation. If you believe you can spot an deception a mile away and would like to help stop Deceptive practices please PM me.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Ma'am,
Pardon moi, but after reading (yes, there are people that still read) your postings here at IHUB...the following is the closest you have ever come to making a fact based statement.
You said "I don't think"
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Thank you for sharing. I know differently and agree that we disagree on a lot of things.
Huh? You *know* differently concerning the life of Jesus?
Guess you have no other thoughts of importance in regard to my post.
Not at all, unlike some (who shall remain nameless) I see no need to repeat what was said so clearly before.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
PA,
If boring were an offense worthy of restriction or deletion, there would be precious few allowed to post anywhere. Unless that is what you are really after, limit all that don't fit your idea of interesting.
Side note for Gary...
familiar syntax?
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Matt,
I have noticed that several CoB's have abdicated and left their threads unmoderated. I understand that you wish to leave these threads open so that all may see how and who opposed your rules and Regulations. However these boards are open game for Spammers and such. I have already noticed such happening. Is there any way you can allow the boards to remain but "lockout" any posting to them?
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Hello Patricia,
What is that nickname of yours again? Brass Knuckles Wearing Grandma?
Although I find most of your post patently biased towards a policy where anarchy would rule supreme (as it does on other message boards), I must take issue with you concerning a horrendously erroneous analogy.
Gee Matt, even Jesus talked to the twelve apostles about things. I am sure he appreciated the input from those that he felt were so much wiser than him.
I am not sure what bible you claim to read but in most of the accepted versions the apostles were STUDENTS of Jesus, not advisors. Yes, he allowed them to pose questions, but the answers he already had. The only references to Jesus seeking "advice" are those times when he talked with the only entity capable of advising the Son of God... HIS FATHER. To imply that any mere mortal was wiser than the Son of God is ludicrous. Of course that is why he was crucified. The religious leadership could not tolerate being subordinate to anyone.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Matt,
The discussion here over the past couple of days concerning how Deletions are handled has raised the following question.
Will the EGADS board be getting a new Chairman or will it be deleted altogether?
While I like the idea of a place for legitimate grievance to be aired, I understand the potential for abuse.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
In the above link you will see that my post was deleted because it contained the word "hypesters". Now these same people label me a basher.
No, I see the post was deleted because you personally attacked other posters by calling them "Hypesters". There is a huge difference. Please note that several have had posts deleted for calling you a "basher".
The answer is simple. These individuals are hypocrits. They boldly call me a basher and delete my post for calling them hypesters. They own shares in the company (some more than others) and they want IHUB to grant them authority to create a forum that actively discriminates against points of view that shed negative light on a stock to shield their vested financial interests. Its unethical and its absurd.
There you go namecalling again. If you will allow me to relate a lesson I learned a long time ago. In an argument the first person to resort to namecalling loses.
Additionally, how can you know what is in the mind of another?
Besides, If the above were true would not every post you have made to the CBQI thread have been deleted? Would you not be banned from IHUB altogether? I have seen no heard no call for such an action by either Gary or IHUB. Conversely, because you feel the posters on the CBQI board overly postive do you support the idea of having their posts deleted and them banned from the site because you feel they are wrong and you are right? (I just love double edged weapons.) 8>)
The truth is, Gary wants the ability to Harrass any negative point of view and them delete defending posts. Gary calls this impression management. He is managing the impression that other may have if they read the opposing argument. Its Bad form.
I have read Gary's posts for some time. I have seen no evidence to support this claim. Further I believe "impression management" was coined by the media during the Nixon administration. though I could be wrong I don't think we have Gary to thank for that.
Democracy is based not on the pricipal of protecting the rights of the majority. It is based on the pricipal of protecting the rights of the minority from oppression and discrimination by the majority. Gary wants a FEUDAL form of government that allows COBs the authority to oppress the views of the minority. I want a demorcracy, and if you take a poll, so does the majority.
I'm sorry but a pure Democracy typically ignores the minority. This country does not meet the technical definition of a pure democracy partially because of the attention given the minority opinion. Further, and again based on longtime review of Gary's posts, I disagree that he seeks a return to a feudal governing system. He does appear to show many conservative values.
I want a demorcracy, and if you take a poll, so does the majority.
If you review the contest over the past few weeks here at IHUB. you'll discover that, like many businesses in this country and abroad, it is not a democracy and never will be.
If you allow posts to be deleted, their needs to be an easy way to have them reposted if it is dertimined the COB is wrong.
IHUB has in place an excellent system for review of deleted posts. those that have been deemed appropriate have been restored. I see no reason to expect differently in the future.
Tollerating one groups assult on another is wrong. If you label me a "basher", and delete me for labeling you a "hypester," you are showing your hypocracy by electively discriminating against me.
Unless you missed one, Have you not already pointed out all of the "basher" posts to Gary? and hasn't he deleted all of those you complained about? further are there not posts wherein you use other derogatory terms concerning Gary that remain on the CBQI thread?
In reviewing the "big picture" I have taken all of these things into account. Yes there has been some namecalling by both sides of the argument on that thread. Many were removed but not all. Perhaps some remain because the majority of the post is relevant and the CoB felt they should remain even though the poster erred by adding an attacking one-liner. I don't know, I haven't crawled inside Gary's head to figure out what he is doing. That isn't my responsiblity. It also isn't admins responsiblity. Neither is it admin's responsibility to soothe the hurt feelings of someone that has been losing an argument.
This is what I mean by "get over it" and move on. Learn from your mistakes. Come back better prepared. Have more evidence. Be able to prove your claims. Those that think a good arguing style is to pick apart the posters communication skills are sadly underprepared. Sit in on a debate competition and see haw far that style goes. Do your homework and sit at the table for as long as you can keep presenting facts. Start namecalling and you get escorted from the building. Without a review.
Have a good day everyone.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Bob,
In this particular instance we aren't talking about a "personal board". The board in question is a stock board. Posts have not been deleted "willy-nilly". In fact there are many posts that I personally would have deleted from several posters for personal attack and thread disruption. The post in question was Off Topic to the thread it was posted on. Simple, straightforward. As far as I can see there hasn't been any discrimination towards Bixmann by being deleted. If anything I think some of the others posting there may have been discriminated against because their personal attacks (directed at Bixmann) were deleted while his weren't. Ultimately though Bixmann appears to be inspiring Gary and several others on the board to bone up on their research to refute Bixmann's claims. Since no one is hurt by this exchange of information, if that is the reason for the latitude given Bixmann then the end justifies the means.
Stock Boards can still suffer from thread disruption, just like Personal boards. The criteria for off topic has to be pretty strict. As I said previously, If Gary had deleted ALL previously Off Topic posts made by Bixmann perhaps this issue would not have arisen. Alas thread moderation is not an exact science. We must leave it in the hands of individuals. As long as there is a reasonable grievance procedure, things should work out OK.
Granted, so far I have upheld the CoB's decision. But a post will come that has been unreasonably deleted. Rest assured I will recommend that post be reinstated.
Additionaly, and this goes for everyone. The number one post killer is *OFF TOPIC*. Post in the right thread and your chance of deletion drops way down. And don't beat yourself up over getting a post deleted. Find the thread it belongs on and put it there!
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com