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She said YES to DENIED!
If things dont wrap up monday when we awaken, I think we all need to buy a few shares of each color in case BR tries to ram through another vote POS.crap.
But deep down I think Susman is dusting off his POR that he and PJS have been silently waiting on JMW's denial for.
I'm leaving town this weekend for my wedding aniversary and now with this uneasy judges opinion, i will be unable to resist checking in on the DROID every few hours as I think KCCLLC will be busy Sunday.
thx fsshn for the reminder about where to focus. have a great weekend. Denied is denied!
well said Judith.
Thanks Ilene, you called it on the subleties at the last omnibus, I think your right on the subleties of this denial. It is obviously a very sensitive situation - between the law is the law and not wanting to reek havok on an already unstable situation in this economy/wall street.
She wouldnt let the EC present certain evidence for a reason, she never outright killed equity for a reason; she is squeezing (sorry) everyone's nuts slowly to get a settlement. She cant let an outright ruling take place for either side, I think is her goal. Nor let every jack/jill buy in, especially if JPM is bankrupt if we get our 4 bill.
Not enough to give equity everything we honestly and righteously deserve, and not let too big to fail crooks get everything they have gotten used to taking.
I dont know, still digesting everything, shocked, happy, pouring another Elysian double hopped IPA. Cheers!
Thanks for sharing. move along.
I agree slick, it is time to throw it all in. It seems our judge only acts when her back is against the wall. She is obviously under immense pressure but always leaves a door cracked when we push.
And now we must PUSH like we never have PUSHED before. Stand behind Hoffman and force her immediately to unseal those docs and shine the light on them.
Well said Biz. Best post today.
Catz can anyone submit a plan now or do debtors still have exclusive rights to modify even though the plan is denied?
Maybe PJS/EC going to slap one on the countertop tonite for JMW?
WOOOOHOOOOO!!!! Wamillions coming soon!
FSSHN, also I found last nite some original Stewart Title bulletins where an original states the banks were in receiverhsip, and then within a week another Bulletin replaces it, and now Stewart Title is under the impression from the FDIC that all WMI assets were conveyed (fraudulently). Summary below.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_W/threadview?m=te&bn=86316&tid=655231&mid=655231&tof=12&frt=5#655231
I am going thru my sent email file and will resend the docs I emailed so you have the original or in case the ones I posted arent it.
Check your invesco mail in a bit.
This is the document I found that was saved as a BofA file on www.docstoc.com. I dont have a server for documents so it is kept online safely for others to view in a few places.
http://davidarchive.com/uploads/WaMu_Closing_Book.pdf
Also about that time is the OCC consumation letter I found which I think also addresses that OCC thinks WMBfsb is a sub of WMB and they wrapped them up together fraudulently.
http://davidarchive.com/uploads/Approval_for_JPM_to_WaMu.pdf
Let me know if these arent it and I'll keep looking in my files.
or is this the one last nite where WAMU was explaining their corporate setup for strategic receivership in the couple of years prior to acutual receivership?
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_W/threadview?m=te&bn=86316&tid=655283&mid=655283&tof=21&frt=5#655283
Refressh my memory a tad.....is it the P&A execution copy that was titled under bank of america? One of those first ones I found? I dont recall a wells fargo one, but a b of a.
Observer on Y's take on CCB/Tricadia (Bop also agrees on this view)........people seem to be all over the map on this one - not sure what to make of it.
The trading of CCB's are still restricted and the vacating order is only effective as per "the date of entry of a confirmation order" per this order.
"ORDERED that any and all procedures, notices and restrictions on acquisitions,
dispositions or other transfers of CCB Guarantee Claims, as set forth in the CCB Guarantee
Claims Trading Order, are lifted as of the date of entry of a Confirmation Order and shall have
no legal force or effect whatsoever as of the date of entry of the Confirmation Order;"
So, basically, if Tricadia and the CCBs don't get the promised fruits from the debtor's revised POR allocation to them {OK, here's the shut up money now GTFO} because the POR is not confirmed, the restrictions stay in place.
If she was going to approve the POR, why sign this now when soon after an approval (within days to a couple of weeks) they could sell anyways????
To me this is another tiny sign that maybe the POS is getting denied and there is going to be a long period of competing pors or valuations or something, and she is helping some creditors lighten their load?
AIMDAO - I'm just a carpenter.
I just was going to ask you the same thing lol.
Lol spot on.
Have you read Ben Masons objection regarding that building? It was held in 2nd n Pike which is a sub of WMI - fraudulently conveyed I might add. Try again.
Here is a Refresher course on WAMU's extensive and expensive art collection. Includes a Norman Rockwell, Mark Toy, and Morris Graves. Art was on all 42 floors according to WAMU's art purchaser Yvonne Banks with Art Consulting Services.
Something tells me she could value our art collections.
http://www.portfolio.com/business-news/2009/09/04/lehman-brothers-left-extensive-art-collections-behind/
JPM Sept 2008 Investor Presentation
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ONE/424747584x0x236634/b5a3d70a-28ac-4148-8966-71b18408c8c3/JPM_WManalystpresentation.pdf
pg2 Does NOT include WMI assets/liabilities. Then why the F do the assets show up on JPM's 10k's?? Lies lies lies.
pg 14 banks net assets listed as 31 billion. Is this where Justin Nelson gets his 30b number? from JPM's own document LOL
pg 21 check out illustrative captial generation from WAMU franchises......unbelievalble. 100's of billions.
On docstoc, I found an old Stewart Title bulletin NY000384 Sept 26, 2008 referencing the FDIC receivership of WAMU and it gave links for Stewart Title people to review of the P&A, etc. I was hoping to find a cached P&A with a 3.1a (lol) through this and some dumb luck.
Unfortunately, this bulletin was shortly (within days) replaced with another (which definitely fits the recollection of some real Longs here that claim the 3.1a was briefly available) where the links all go to the P&A we are now familiar with.
http://www.vuwriter.com/vubulletins.jsp?displaykey=BL122751409600000000
But it is interesting in a side bulletin http://www.vuwriter.com/vubulletins.jsp?displaykey=BL122227553300000004&parenttype= , that per the original bulletin NY000384, Stewart was under the impression that all WMInc. entities were in receivership, not just the bank (paragragh 1).
Makes it seem that the FDIK really conveyed everything of WMI, not just that JPM took some 'liberies'. More signs of FDIK arrogance and complicity.
Nice to see Lindi back UZ! That 'girl next door look' really gets to me versus the other beauty. Got your PM - got lucky pulling the 'slots' on my saved links I hit when I first get home.
Hope everyone had a nice holiday break. Gonna start digging deep again tonite.
kccllc for killinger, solomon, etc. just got home sorry if old news
1/4/2011 6508 Washington Mutual, Inc.'s Notice of Rescheduled Deposition of Kerry Killinger Pursuant to Rule 9014 of the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure and Rule 30(b)(1) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 429 k
1/4/2011 6507 Third Application of the Official Committee of Equity Security Holders for Reimbursement of Expenses Incurred by Committee Member 1683 k
1/4/2011 6506 Tenth Monthly Application of Peter J. Solomon Company as Financial Advisor and Consulting Expert to the Official Committee of Equity Security Holders of Washington Mutual, Inc. et al., for Allowance of Compensation for Services Rendered and Reimbursement of Expenses Incurred for the Period of November 1, 2010 Through November 30, 2010
My 'best stripper' favorite for reavealing the truth is Ben Mason yesterday.
My 'best rage against the machine' vote is for the LTW guy yesterday.
Now that, is a beautiful read!! Way to go Ben Mason.
I got h's no problem this morning with Schwab.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/50300298/The...:-Washington-Mutual-Bank
I have read this three times. The bad translation is challenging.
Is this saying Killenger/WAMU invested in or acquired a Chinese bank sub, (Chinese Internet bank?)
OR
invested in Chinese innternet companies (pg 3 Killenger completed 30 Chinese acquisitions)
Crazy enough to discard, or is there something here that someone has had inklings of before. Or is this related to TPG chinese investors or??
That's my approach LOL. Whatever I can scrape out of couch cushions, and floor mats, etc. goes every week into nickle and dimeing.
TOTALLY. I hope THJMW is up to the task.. There is soooo much for her that 45 days doesnt seem like enough time.
WOW fsshn. great read. I cant believe all this cash justified a seizure.
Thanks Catz. Reading and passing on to others.
pg.2 "Occasio" is WAmu's patented banking concept.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/41690734/Was...
In 2000, after conducting two years of extensive customer research, the organization introduced consumers to its “Occasio” retail banking concept and to a whole new way of banking.
Latin for “favorable opportunity,” Occasio offers customers a friendly, personalized experience that encourages interaction between customers and tellers in a contemporary, open setting. Occasio stores feature casually dressed, khaki-clad “concierges” who greet people and escort them to the appropriate service area. Stores also feature a circular design without traditional bank barriers -- teller windows between customers and employees -- and instead, feature “teller towers” where representatives can greet customers and serve them more efficiently.
In addition to winning accolades for its pioneering retail banking concept, in 2004 the United States Patent Office awarded the organization the first patent issued to a financial services institution describing a full-service branch concept.
Interesting. Or an under the table cash deal to withdraw? Either way, wrong.
Rosen can't file any settlement as it'd show that he found more assets up his arse.
I think hes forced to do it all under the cloak.
That is some great discussion guys. Rosen just locked the keys in his car and here comes trouble. He shouldn't have hesitated nor mislead THJMW. How fortunate we were to have Ilene to bring this up and it is just unraveling for the debtors from here.
WOW. Awesome find. there it is in black n white. DG1
Wamu Capital Corp description from Wamu doc 11-Dec-10 07:17pm John Robinson, Executive VP of Corporate Risk Management states in july 2007 in presentation to FDIC, OTS, OCC, BOGov's of the FED that securities of WMI are held in this WMI sub, WCC
"held at our broker-dealer subsidiary, WAMU Capital Corp."
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/834151/Publi...
Page two first paragragh. My paid subscription gives me the non-blurry version, but you can see it there.
Wamu Capital Corp, a WMI sub, has been fraudulently conveyed to JPM per EDGAR. Wonder what securities, bonds, stocks, etc. where in Wamu CApital Corp?? In this same document, J. Robinson also describes how long term positions were held in WCC, and specifically mentions how it wasnt a company where quick flips for trading profits occured. Is the WMB stock here? What else is in WCC?
thanks MicroK
Maybe shorty should cover before the weekend.......