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That must mean I have all the money you donated to the good Dr?
"I agree there needs to be something more substantial to move this stock"
Why? This clown has already sold $75,000,000 worth of shares to wishfool thinkers without ever having anything "substantial" lololol.
Substantial is in the eyes of the beholder IMO.
"Dutch, DS, and Adamah has confirmed from the TA that the numbers are still not reflecting that."
The T/A's numbers do not confirm anything as to whom specific lots of shares have been issued (only the total issued). Shares issued to someone in August could still be entering the market on a daily bases and would not be new dilution because they were counted when originally issued in August. Just because shares are issued doesn't mean they were automatically sold into the market.
There is also a matter of 'good' and 'bad' dilution...not all dilution is bad. If shares are being sold to increase shareholder assets, that would usually be considered 'good' dilution.
ECOS has issued 6,555,191,250 shares since 12/30/2016
Only updated financials from ECOS will reveal where those shares went and for what purpose?
From the T/A 10/23/2017
Authorized: 25,000,000,000
Issued: 9,804,564,250
Restricted: 3,656,163,543
From the T/A - 12/30/2016:
Authorized: 10,000,000,000
Issued: 3,249,372,998
Restricted: 3,115,063,534
Yep, and the following is exactly the kind of nonsense that gets trading suspended and tickers revoked in pennyland, along with being delinquent...
"they are in the process of trademark and copyright."
Trademarks and copyrights are worthless when compared to the value, and protection, afforded by PATENTS. Ecos owns none of the IP behind the Korean Patents? The Koreans would have to file for any US patents, and if awarded, could then assign them to ECOS for a fee?
Until ECOS assigns a value for Patents in their financials...they are not a shareholder asset, just wishfool thinking.
GLTY and JMO
"the technology is at ECOS stock not JV."
There is nothing in any ECOLOCAP filing that indicates they own any of the technology? They list ZERO assets. Are you saying the filings are wrong? LRS knows they have no assets, even it you don't?
THIS POST SHOULD ALSO BE A STICKY
THIS POST SHOULD BE A STICKY
Before they went dark, what 'rumors' were factual? LOL
"from the lucky entity that owns and operates the site"
Well said...LOL
"every time you mention ECOS the bid goes up... lol"
Yes, and the share price does down...I just don't understand that? Maybe someday when I'm old enough, I'll understand just how these bamboozles work?
How many garbage trucks does ECOS have available for picking up bio-waste in Sonoma County Ca? They might eventually sell 2 machines to someone that does, but that's about the size of the potential for ECOS. The real potential in something like this is in residual revenues. They don't even have that established yet in Chicago??
GLTY and JMO
"How long ago was that anyways?? pffffffft!"
Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
JMO
"Yeah but the .00011 part throws me off. If it was just .0001 then fine but the extra 1 is odd"
Could well be a sign from heaven that all ECOS followers should go forth and multibuy?? Donations may be down?
"I’m thinking in January tho"
Per the contract, allocations from ECOS/Bio-Art are only to occur on a fiscal year basis, so 'on time' for ECOS would be 1Q report due out...May?
My guess is LRS will order 2 more machines for delivery to 2 of it's other locations (to be operational by April 1, 2017). That will not generate any machine cash flow for 2018, as 100% of ECOS margin on the machines has to stay in the JV and won't even be allocated until the beginning of 2019.
Since LRS shuts down it's bio-waste pick up Dec 15, the real by-product action won't resume until April 1 next year with hopefully 3 machines operational by then.
GLTY and JMO
When do you think you we will see those numbers? April?
They had to put up $100 of that into ECOS/BIO-Art LLC as start up capital...so had only $598 to start 2017 with LOL.
6.5 Billion shares issued thru 10/10:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=135292719
FoodToPlant is also one of the largest untapped sources of natural gas on the planet...should they figure out how to tap and market some of it, you could become rich after all LOL.
GLTY and JMO
Yes...too bad peeps can't buy shares directly in either LRS or the ECOS/BIO-art LLC,...only in ECOS, where all the debt, management problems, financial problems and regulatory problems are?
GLTY and JMO
Thanks...so not dumping bio-waste in a landfill is potentially a good thing for ground water quality right? Got it!
"or maybe you can call them directly and find out.."
Sorry, I just thought that an investigative reporter that went to all the trouble to post about a leachate problem in the US (with pictures) might possibly know? ...sorry to bother you. I may call LRS on Monday.
Whats the current size of the leachate problem in the United States
from composting?? Just curious!
"Did they ever succeed at this?"
ECOS, since inception, has never failed to disappoint shareholders.
That's why there's still a STOP SIGN on OTCmarkets.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/ECOS/quote
"Conversions require sale of a security."
LOLOLOL...whats the normal time limit a converter has to sell his shares before they go bad and start to smell?
50/50 on the machines and 60/40 on by-product sales. ECOS also has to contribute 100% of their 50% profit on the first 8 machines to the private ECOS/Bio-art LLC as their capital contribution to the JV.
ZERO cash flow from machines for quite some time? Read the contracts!
Most of the $750,000 for the machines goes to the Korean Manufacturer...no shareholder even knows what the ECOS 'margin' on each machine is yet? LRS gets 50% of that margin, so projections of HUGE profits for ECOS on machines seems rather premature? A US by-product distribution network for the composted material still has to be developed. Speculation there is still just that, speculation.
You are perfectly welcome to your own fantasy outcome, but why try to 'sell it' on an investment blog until you have more concrete information?
GLTY and JMO
"From what I’m gathering he’s been up to date on each time,unless they don’t have updates but why would that just start now out of nowhere"
Geeesh! 30 million shares issued 3 months ago by the T/A, and not sold into the market until yesterday, do not show up in today's O/S numbers as a 30 million increase in the O/S?
"28 million sell? What is going on here???"
ECOS has ZERO cash flow and no other source of funds other than free trading shares to pay expenses? They could be paying 'consultants' and 'contractors' for services rendered withe shares? Those only have to be reported quarterly and can be easily hidden away in the financials under 'consultant fees'.
Could even cover fees to promote rumors?
GLTY and JMO
"Don't worry i'll call LRS on Monday.."
Any clarity yet as to where those silly rumors about a R/M with LRS came from? I see the Stickys are still up, so there's likely still a lot of confusion by people reading this board? They probably should be removed until we get something verifiable from LRS IMO.
"Yeah they did that was their structures before".
Are you talking about 'before they went Kaput' for using toxic (death spiral) financing like ECOS has?
But you said it started the rumor about a merger??
Just trying to help?
KP
Dutch...What was confusing about the filing regarding the LRS warrants?
IMO, that only made any argument for an intent to merge more ridiculous.
"LRS is definitely a customer who is extremely likely to become an even bigger customer but why the speculation about anything more to this business relationship?"
At last...an intelligent question...thanks!
And how on earth could it become a STICKY with absolutely no facts whatsoever to support it??
Did the previous STICKY have a verifiable source from LRS?
He already did...please sticky it and remove the other RM posts. They were obviously fakes.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=135397518
Wouldn't surprise me if they have to re-do the 14c just to cover the additional derivative liabilities error discovered in the financials?? Could require another 10 billion share increase?
Should be interesting!
Who knows? probably got the idea of what to ask about from a STICKY..LOL
"lrs is going to merge with this scam because they said they weren't."
LMFAO!
But,but,but DS was calling ECOS, not LRS?? Those calls had nothing to do with this discussion??
drum sounded pretty honest to me! I think I will trust his version.
"Except the fact that he didn’t call and if he did they would have said no and or ignored the question bc if they said yes then that is insider trading. Next"
He called LRS..not ECOS...LRS is a private company and what they might say about ECOS would not be considered insider trading LOLOL.
Are you calling drum a liar?