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Most of the energy and lies were focused on shareholders, character assassinations, attempts to drive the price down, scaring investors away. No, I see them as disgusting people. Corker was the worst of them all, using his power to drive the price down while shorting the stock. Even Carney with all his Alia’s does to this very day. Most likely they will all burn in hell for their constant lies, hate, and greed.
you cant time criminal minds, as time goes on its an infestation, government agencies legitimize it all in the name of taxpayers, then, and now its in the name of entitlements.
he is stating a fact, which preferreds have no clue how to do unless they have a receivership fantasy as a baseline, and then claim its facts.
They are the biggest group of players investors ever that just hear something from someone and buy and hold. They just watch and attack anyone who does anything different. It’s what market crashes are make times 10.
But it goes up and down so often even a caveman can do it. May not catch high and low but green is green. So many frozen coins. When the billionaires were selling I saw whole coins getting sold everyday. Not so much now, just chicken feed retail trying to move through fake news snd spooking.
Freaks everywhere, crypto is truly full of walking dead.
Another words, they know that 15 years have been wasted, they have to make changes just like every government program that started decades ago, so they can justify and pretend they are making it better. When in fact, it was already perfectly fine and used as a debt dumping ground. Like the government we have know for a while now, everything they do has long exceeding the point of diminishing returns, when they are done it will never be right again.
Of course it is to u. In the end times men will not know the truths, they will not understand it, they will laugh and mock. It WILL be their greatest downfall. Thank you, I always like to know who I’m dealing with.
It’s a play of the year.
Don’t get me wrong I care about everyone. I may not agree or like what they say, but I always care sometimes more than for myself. Which is probably why I’m still working and not retired.
Good one. But actually since ur serious, no one is stupid, because everyone has or chooses different facts or lack of to make decisions. There are wise, unwise, and the weak minded who don’t want to accept truths or facts in investing and Religion, and life in general. In actuality the only difference between intelligence and Genius is and great memory. My memory goes back 3 recessions and everything involved. Expect cryptos to mostly all collapse or disappear.
Bill Ackman owns many Franklins. This Alpha article may have unleashed the fantasy receivership minds of Preferred children.
Below is my letter sent to Bill Ackman of Pershing Square Management in February 2015 regarding his long investments in the GSEs, Fannie Mae (OTCQB:FNMA) & Freddie Mac (OTCQB:FMCC), and why I believe private investors should reap very little of any value accrued of these firms going forward. Although written in February, it is still as pertinent today as it was then. He did not respond to my certified letter.
To: William Ackman, Pershing Square Management L.P.
RE: The Future Value of the GSEs: Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac
Dear Mr. Ackman,
I am writing you this letter in regard to your long thesis on the common and preferred shares of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. I have read both your comments in the press as well as your case for the GSEs at the Ira Sohn Conference in May 2014 and presentation, "It's Time to Get Off of Our Fannie."1
As a potential long investor myself, I wanted to write you in order to try to square what I believe is the single largest fundamental obstacle precluding any type of reasonable long investment into Fannie & Freddie.
Before I do that though, I just wanted to state, that like many others (including yourself), I believe that Treasury and the US Government cannot and will not fully nationalize the GSEs. I agree with you that it simply would not be feasible nor practical for the government to fully privatize and run these two gigantic firms while at the same time adding over $6 trillion of US mortgage debt to an already overstretched Federal balance sheet.
Rather, the likely future scenario for the GSEs is some type of public/private hybrid entity with the government (and taxpayers) providing an ultimate guarantor of last resort backstop for principal and interest payments on mortgages.
It is this implicit (though virtually explicit) guarantee provided by the government that leads me to assign little if any value to private, common GSE investors. Without the almighty weight of the US Government guarantee the market would hold little faith in these firms to fully insure millions of Americans' homes. You know as well as I, that there is simply nowhere near the amount of private capital awash in the world to guarantee the GSEs massive books and the historical data on private mortgage insurance (PMI) issuance bears this fact out.
Thus any real economic value attributed to FNMA & FMCC is almost solely derived by this implicit guarantee. Without it, these companies are like the proverbial 'emperor without clothes.' Were the GSEs to be deprived of Uncle Sam's good faith & credit backing up American mortgages, private mortgage insurers would be forced to charge orders of magnitudes above the current 60bp or so Fannie Mae g-fees. Furthermore, private insurers would in all likelihood unilaterally retreat from offering the 30-year fixed mortgage in fear of duration risk. Finally, any real stress in the system would likely see a wholesale withdrawal from the mortgage market in panic by consumers without the steadfast reassurance of the US government.
Having said all of this - if it is Uncle Sam doing a majority of the heavy lifting, providing the backstop capital on millions of mortgages, why should any of the benefits reaped of the implicit guarantee accrue to private shareholders? Even if we attribute 80% of the value to the government safety net and a liberal 20% to private capital, using your future value estimates on slide 104 of your presentation1 assuming an eventual 80pb g-fee and 15X FP/E multiple, one would arrive at a $35 share price. If only 20% of that value would be attributable to non-government private capital, we would derive at $7 a share. This is still about 3x the current $2.32 (2/11/15) FNMA share price, but definitely not the Grand Slam many private investors are betting on in the event of a Net Worth Sweep dissolution. Once again, my 80/20% government-private split assumption is both arbitrary, and one could argue, very optimistically skewed on the private side (95/5% is more realistic).
All this being said, I cannot make any type of good faith argument in favor of significant value accretion towards non-governmental private shareholders when it is the US Government providing the very bedrock upon which these firms were created and continue to operate. Can you?
Ultimately I agree with both your points that the 5th Amendment and Net Worth Sweep should be dissolved and that the true equity value of Fannie and Freddie are much higher than at present levels. Yet, at the same time, the current share levels of the GSEs most likely accurately reflect the appropriate value attributable to private, non-US government shareholders contribution towards these iconic American firms.
If you could argue otherwise Mr. Ackman, I would very much be interested in listening to you or someone on your staff at Pershing Square.
Thank you.
Pershing Square Capital Management LP - Fannie & Freddie Holdings
In a previous Seeking Alpha article published on 8/17/15, "Tracking Bill Ackman's Pershing Square Portfolio - Q2 2015 Update," author John Vincent cited Pershing Square's last 13D file mentioning the firm's GSE positions.
A 13D filed in November 2013 showed that Ackman's fund held 115.57m shares of Fannie at a cost-basis of $2.30 and 63.5m shares of FMCC at a cost-basis of $2.14. This equates to a position just over $400m.
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No by Friday, in 2025.
Mostly hacks. There are a few left that care and know markets.
When GDX goes down while spot gold goes up, sometimes it’s leads golds forecast price movements.
Another completely failed stock and company?
Fantastic. Thank you.
Get behind me $at!n. GSEs attacked all the time. KtndaBrads.
Maybe no one has money left to buy here, SHIBADOGE at 00000000. All hope is on one guy, and that smart money will take ur money in the blinken of an eye.
MMs can take a trade if agreed, it’s not for anyone but connected ones. It’s the Makers not the platform.
U do that.
Why not? It’s legal. Only Ps don’t understand the OTC market or any market for that matter.
I admit he is the wild card here. He also may do exactly like what CME did, raise it up to slam it down. Where can amplitude go if he does this is yet to be determined. But I also think Fed, through SEC has different idea. See it’s fink against dollar. Fed will win if it comes to that.
Spot hit 1950. I’m pretty sure it must retrace, we see.
Larry wants to make hundreds of billlion shorting it to the ground floor.
Bratford has many Aliases, we all know this. Sort of an anti active investor. He doesn’t push what he owns he tries assassinations on things he doesn’t by making one person seem like many to form legitimacy, while going after others characters from different IDs. It’s a disorder of magnitude in his case. Sad really what desperation does to someone. How do u pity one that constantly attacks u financially because of him own financial plight. An all consuming obsession to destroy GSE commons just like the architects who originated the conserve through mafia like practices within government.
Hit 28,9999. Marker.
Spot gold gotta consolidate before it stays any higher than 1920s.
Nixon let the freaks run wild at the Fed. The dollar is backed by bonds and Tbills. Gold is the only money in the world today. BTC is backed by nothing, absolutely no intrinsic value and so unstable price wise it’s for trades. When a few trillion more flock to safety for real, it will be gold.
Your correct. I just threw it out there, it will never go that low. But I will be analyzing it for sure.
Hey duh duh dummy, I don’t live in Portland and have absolutely no idea what ur talking about. Stick with failed anti commons discussion, it’s much less traceable.
We neighbors? I only ask u keep ur tent off my property. It won’t end well for anyone trying that.
Will BTC shiba the bed like SHIBA is doing today.
Looks like it shiba’d the bed this morning. Let’s see how far our it can take the decimal places on trades. I’ll keep an eye out for a buy at .00000001 🤭
U gotta go to Fort Worth stockyards to make a complete trip to DFW. Real men, real women, real cowboys, real Telmex food, with people who still know how to make things happen. Texas is where work and production of the body, mind, heart, spirit and soul happen everyday. It truly is one of the only states that can stand on its own profitably. Gimme some more GSE profits and I’ll make even more happen here. Well when I get back anyway. Still in Portland or., then Portola valley ca, then back to Fort Worth.
U forgot wealthy idiot with an IQ possibly much more than u, and I could tell u everything I know today and will still know more than u tomorrow. Bitcoin bumpkins everywhere will lose big money. Little men everywhere these days.
BTC is so full of fake news lies and absolutely no intrinsic value. A whole lot of new suckers stuck around 52 week high.
Cryptos, other than ones that will support Fed coin, will be completely crushed. The market will see to it, it will have no mercy, all in will have their pretend wealth will be turned to dust. History always repeats itself when people never learn and greed prevails.
Why is it complete know nothings, critics, common shareholder haters, or fantasy starters show up on Green Day’s. Lol.
Shib is for kids, smart money out of most crypto. The pump, which I called, is for exits. U all gonna fry guy.