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Great idea, add to a position that you think is going nowhere but down. Where did you read about that trading strategy? Please let me know.
Thanks!
As usual your post make no sense. Welcome to the 21st century where we actually have computers and stuff and even use them in the military!
Please keep posting. Thanks!
Wrong again! They are in the security market, hence the TSA contract. You do realize that companies can be in many vertical markets, they don't only have to cater to one industry. You know, like when you keep talking about TKO getting involved in the residential market.
See MLK, if you just read my posts, take copius notes, and ask questions, I will educate you on how to effectively evaluate a stock. It's a tough road out there in the investment world and I would be happy to help you.
Thanks!
I realize he is talking to hear himself talk.
Interesting point. Is TKO your first trade?
Wow I just noticed that! You think we are going to 0 today, or tommorrow?
MLK, I mean this in the nicest way possible: you really have no idea what idea what you are talking about. At all. Every single point you just made is wrong, inaccurate, or misleading. But again, I am not saying that in a mean-spirited way at all. Thanks!
You are amazingly wrong. You don't see how the secure transmital of information to airport security personnel has anything to do with helping thwart potential security breaches?
TKO is the answer to all, the sooner you realize that, the happier you will be MLK. Any other questions, let me know!
I could not disagree more completely. In regards to Homeland Security, few things are more important that trying to secure airports. TKO fits a piece in that puzzle. You could not be more off.
Do you take someone's word on an anonymous message board? His post is slanderous and more or less suggests someone broke a securites law, such a dangerous thing to say for so many reasons. Nothing good can come out of that post tree my young jedi.
The prints may show up on time and sales as 100 share lots but look at the time, they are mostly from the same order. Happens in all stocks, larger orders show up as multiple prints.
Agreed, that is some dangerous statements people are making. I would stay far away from that discussion. Slander and SEC violations are not something to be taken lightly. While I know GEtrader and Newxicor have a lot of first hand knowledge, that is not a discussion people should be talking about on a public message board.
You all should not be taking MLK so seriously, I cannot believe that he has let people here rattle them. Everything he says is entirely in jest. He has no idea what he is talking about, just like the rest of us really dont know what is going to happen. He happens to have bought in at a lower price and got freaked out when his position went south on him, like everyone else here. He does not work for a hedge fund, he does not work for ThinkEquity. I actually find his posts funny at times because he does not know what he is talking about and knows it, yet knows he can rattle people.
There is not a person posting on this board or yahoo board that has not lost money in TKO, that is about as close to a fact as is possible in TKOland. The people that are left here, including myself (albeit with a much smaller position) think this story will eventually unfold. MLK is no exception, if he didn't think TKO would eventually have some intrinstic value, he would of took his 35% loss and moved on. His approach is different and can be tiresome at times but he is in the same boat as everyone else.
Anyway, my personal thought has not changed, even with a nice rebound this week. Low volume and volatile days will be the norm until the end of Q3 at best, unless something substantial happens which I would not count on. Unfortunately TKO is batting with a 0-2 count right now. From a fundamental standpoint, it is very tough to put a valuation on it. You can't really look at peers to model on because they are in an immature industry and are more or less a niche right now. They have diversified their business and are in many vertical markets right now, which is great but until there is some kind of track record you cant get any sense of any trends. By the time Q4 numbers are released and if they show some substantial revenue increases, the picture clears up a lot as far being able to project future growth. You dont see institutions coming in to buy right now because there is no way to model the stock, they have no numbers to base anything on. They would rather buy at 3 six months from now when they get a clearer picture of revenue, growth, cap ex, the BPL market in general, etc, then at 1.90 today.
All I am looking for right now is sales. I dont care about debt, I dont care about spending, I dont care about cash flow. I want to know that the product is needed, that they are best of breed, that there is large market for the product, and finally that someone there can take them from a to b to c. If the answer is yes to all of those, we are in business. Sorry for the long post, haven't posted in a bit and wanted to throw in my two cents.
I do not blame her at all for cutting bait. Sometimes you can believe in the story but without any follow through, the story loses its real value. After all, its about making money, nothing more, nothing less.
It's not a secret that TKO has been trading like absolute crap. Nothing the company has said or will say has improved that. I do think they turn the corner at some point down the road, and at that point more people will be interested. Right now, less is more, in all aspects, in my opinion.
Yah, I tried to say that just was not clear I guess. I meant pie is ~ (approx) 3.14
Probably the most useless key on the keyboard. Next to the TKO buy button of course :(
I am out of guesses and answers with this stock. The amount of selling here is insane. I have trimmed my position to about 1/4 of what is was a few months ago at this point.
This is too bad, I really feel like they are poised in the right direction but I will not fight the tape.
Its a different market, its not what the focus is on. Go to the yahoo board and view some messages from plc_investor, as well as a few others some others, who are clearly techinically oriented or industry professionals. I have read several posts that answer your question. I am not techinically savy enough to even bother trying to paraphrase what they are saying, but there is an answer to your quetion.
They don't qualify to be list on NASDAQ. In general, NASDAQ requires you maintain a $5 price level for a certain time frame, like 30 days or something like that. TKO has a lot of work to do if they ever want to see NASDAQ.
Right now it needs all the make-up it can get.
The AMEX crap the last couple of days is a joke, after the NYSE meltdown last May, how do they not have system checks in place, that b.s. should never happen. If this company can ever get it right, its needs off this ridiculous exchange. AMEX is for ETF's only.
Ron Ron, help us out here buddy, host a weekly conference call or put your HQ on a webcam so we can all see what a good job you guys are doing and get some real money to believe in this story!
I got stopped out of a few shares today :(
AMEX is back from his break. Nice job Specialist 904, we appreciate the effort.
.69 printed but that will be broken, looks like someone hit market order and the bid lifted at the same time.
I cannot believe there has been no correspondence between AMEX, TKO, and NASDAQ verify why there is no Specialist. This is exactly why they have them, to make an orderly market when volatility is high and liquidity is not present.
I think that is a good price avg. Downside 1.50ish upside 3.50 ish. almost 3:1 for your money, good risk/reward.
Probably won't wind up being a bad move. I generally dont like to cost average down, I have learned my lesson the hard way many times before and I would rather exit and reenter the position. But I know nothing, this stock has me completely baffled.
I do see optionsexpress.com has TKO halted, but the halt isn't showing up on nasdaqtrader or anywhere else I can find.
Bravo, great speech. Did you save yourself any money?
Are you taking requests for your crystal ball?
I am not a buyer. Nor would I attempt to find a bottom here. I want to see this turn around first. If this story works out, missing 20% of the initial move is nothing.
AMEX went poof again. Calling AMEX specialist 904, please go back your post.
It they recieve the letter today, I doubt the AMEX site will update today, it is reflected yesterday's info.
By the way, the fact that Ron Ron is on vacation is a joke, but I will not dwell on that.
Anyway, the stock continues to mystify me, the short position has been shaved by more than 50%, which is a great sign. Why it did not bounce at all has me baffled.
Ugly ugly ugly.
So another words, the US goverment, and GE, et all, are doing business with a company about to be insolvent? You realize how that sounds? You are trying to be cryptic and it is silly. If you got something to say, say it. I have no idea, nor do I care, what you are all about but it should make no difference to you either way.
that makes no sense.
Come to NYC, not far from you, I would love to hear what you have to say. I know we know a person in common.
Gimme a break. The fact that short ratio has been cut by 2/3 over the past month or two should tell you something. You think if this company was headed downhill from here those couple of shorts would of covered? You really think there is anything left to squeeze out on the downside?
Sonny, don't buy into the 'short theory'. He is not short, he can't be. There is no way his broker/dealer would let him short it. Only a few instituitions would be able to do that. And they are not going to pay someone to post on a message board to try and shake out what may amount to a few hundred thousands shares at best.
MLK is just a little panicked right now because, much like all of us, he is down on his position. I really don't have an issue with his posts or comments because I understand he is only picking certain 'facts' to get his point across. I really don't think he is even purposefully trying to rattle anyone, I think he is just trying to prove a point that he is disgruntled with his investment and wants out. Why he chooses to press buttons instead of having real discussion, is beyond me.
But I will keep answering him because I like trying educate people when I can, and also, sometimes I get bored at work.
You don't have to agree with my theory. I have been a trader for several years, formerly, that was my job. I understand the mechanics of how stocks trade.
We have not seen any type of volume day in weeks, aside from the pop during the conference call.
I suggested that some of the selling is due to those with positions not willing or wanting to wait until the next quarter or two to see returns. Remember, the market has been on fire for the last year and if your money has been in TKO you have have not participated with the rest of the market. I also suggested that stops may have been hit under 2.00. This can trigger a sell-off that lasts for days, depends on who is selling and how their risk-management officer (in the case of an institution) wants to deal with it.
Number one, what you suggested would be highly illegal. You can't manipulate stocks like that. Of course it has been done before, but people can go to jail for that, thats big time. Aside from that if they did cover their short, then they are flat, why would they sell again here?
Second, even though you see 100 share lots on your time and sales, that does not mean they are seperate orders, sometimes orders are just filled like that, does not neccissarily mean anything.
I know you are not short and I know you don't work for ThinkEquity. I also know you have thrown around many ill conceived assumptions and posts, again I will direct you to all my replies. All your answers to all your questions lie within them!
While I appreciate TA and how it can help predict a stocks movement, it only tells part of the story. Dilution occurs when a company issues more stock. A company cant just turn on the printing press and do this without anyone know it. Securities forms need to be filed, blah blah blah. We all would know when/if Ron would need to go to the well again.
I think the tool you are using (correct me if I am wrong) when you say dilution is the accumulation/distribution index. Its works like on-balance volume. When the indicator moves up, it shows the security being accumulated with increasing volume on the way up. When the indicator goes down, it is showing that the security is being distributed on the way down in volume.
Basically, its reiterating the point that when you see big volume and a big move in either direction, its often a sign that precedes/coincides with a big event. Sometimes caused by fundamental news, sometimes by TA alone. Either way its a lot of selling or a lot of buying thats caused by a catalyst.
Hope that helps, correct me I am way off.
ha, that was actually funny
Interesting, PACX is a regional exchange and he is still executing orders, so I dont think its halted. Maybe AMEX specialist had to go to bathroom or took a nap. Either way never seen this before.
Yeah, I saw that but cant find it anywhere or verify. TKO is not showing up halted yet but it may be, no prints since 3:02. That last 5k print at 3:12 is bullsh*t.
AMEX specialist pulled his bid/offer several minutes ago, anyone notice any news that just came out?