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As the new industry quickly becomes a Multi-Billion Dollar market (and ultimately a Trillion Dollar Industry) the Royalties alone on LiquidMetal / Liquid Metal will turn into big, big money. Once the Royalties begin to roll out there is really no costs or risk associated with the Royalties... except for things like continued legal enforcement, Forensic Audits and the accounting etc in general ..... If their primary role becomes all about helping to innovate, spearhead and open new markets in exchange for zillions in Royalty Money ... what Shareholder would have reason to be disappointed ????
Yes... the case was over a good while ago using the highest caliber attorney's in the world (i.e. Attorney's associated with Apple)... and thus ... this is just more idiotic nonsense and voodoo being spewed. Pretty soon we should be seeing posts telling everyone that there is no such thing as LiquidMetal, nor any Trademarks.
Hilarious .. "nail on the head"... yes if you flip flop everything that has been unfolding ..... and not to mention the acceleration of the dots being connected.... And it is so amazing that sooooooooooooo much time is spent by certain agendas trying to distort the facts, details and truth.... Just like we need to empty all the jails ... I suppose that is another 'nail on the head' of accuracy.
Hilarious... and there is no internet research or answers that are available for responding.
Yes.. and then I think if you try really hard to 'connect the dots' as if it is a scam ... the likelihood seems extremely low..... and does not fit with many things that must be considered... If there is a list created with some specifics pointing to a scam I feel the list would be a tiny fraction of the list that points to the 'real deal'. Three or fours years ago I feel it was 50/50 odds ... but now it seems like those odds are about 90/10 in favor of the 'real deal'.
With that post it seems you should be buying the Fortune 500 Companies. Many of those started right where LQMT is at. Think first about the new trillion dollar industry that is being borne which only about .00001 people in the world are aware of (and you being one of them).... and then think next about LQMT's presence, positioning and possibilities within that new industry... and then think next if they only end up with a small fraction of that new industry ...... and then think next about what you prefer to do with that information.... because unless it is a complete scam ... then in a few years or so the stock price will be at least 10x, 50x or 100x where it is now... So unless you know for certain that the dots that are being connected are pointing to a big scam ..... then there is no reason to do anything except patiently watch how the dots continue to be connected.
Good one Almosthere!! Details matter when connecting the dots...
Awesome Jaybiscuit... The LQMT supporters should nominate you as the LQMT mascot
JayBiscuit.... When things finally begin paying off for investors you need to post a PayPal account..... (whether incognito or whatever).....so we have a way to send you some 'Thank-You Money' for your tireless efforts in helping others figure things out...
Right and that is the nature of things when you are pioneering a new industry that will be in the trillions before too long.... Those directly involved only keep going forward because you know the facts and details inside and out and you have the firsthand intuition and instincts to keep going on even for decades... and you intimately understand the merits of what you are pioneering that others cannot see and will not be able to understand until far down the road. Hunches are made (by those pioneering)...... and sometimes incorrect information is passed along ..... based on the 'Early Adopter' Whales that string you along (and entice you with promises etc and encourage you to do things for free for as long as they can get by with it)... and the 'Whales' will tell you anything to continue getting the freebies and other favors and you take them at their word..... but then realize that it was another empty promise that you counted on, and it was just more of the same where you are being 'worked' a little more (because it is your cost and time, not theirs)........ and this is the nature of any 'pioneering' effort' .....and rightly so because you have no real credibility, foundation or references for what you are selling.... And then at some point the leverage starts to shift and there is both an acceleration of the 'dots being connected' and a pivot that oftentimes begins with a very huge order by one of the 'Early Adopters' and then all of the 'pieces of the puzzle' begin to fall in place at an even faster pace ...... and as those connected dots are accelerating and the pieces of the puzzle are coming together at a much faster pace the leverage has already started to shift to the pioneers.... as the 'Early Adopter' Whales begin to consider huge initial orders or repeat orders ...... and that is also when the last portion of the puzzle pieces come together at a very fast pace compared to the decades that it took on the first 75% of the puzzle...... and then soon thereafter all of the Whales will be trying to go through the 'purchase door' at the same time and the pioneers will gain even more and more leverage as the demand greatly accelerates.......and all of this is the 'nature of pioneering' even when the potential transactions and rewards are a tiny fraction of what LQMT is in the midst of...and none of this has anything to do with peoples integrity or their intentions and should never reflect on their credibility... (if you just take the time to understand what the 'pioneering experience' is all about). What you should be watching closely is the acceleration of the dots being connected and the pieces of the puzzle coming together within the industry as a whole... and those at the forefront who have contributed ... even the tiny companies like LQMT will almost definitely end up with their fair share of the much deserved exponential rewards, and that understanding of the 'pioneering process' is truly what will separate those who multiply their money exponentially as investors versus those who watch the opportunity pass them by... Again, any skeptics should just go out and embark on pioneering a new invention of their own, let alone a new product line or an entire industry..... and then get back to us...
Jaybiscuit - Awesome.... Thanks for the great research and helping so much to assess the puzzle and fit the potential pieces together.
Ridiculous.. by the time that happened LQMT stock would be a few hundred dollars per share. Just curious what competing industry are you in (to that of LQMT) that you file your Patents?
Good one DD88
Yep there is some merit to that response The main thing I think is taken out of context when people like Jaybiscuit are trying to help others is that these people doing all this great research are never trying to suggest or imply to others that LQMT is going to be the dominating force in the industry.... They are simply contributing the information they find and letting others decide how significant that info is. What is wrong with that and why should anything like that be treated as though they were trying to hype anything.... People can dismiss the info or take it into consideration but it seems like it goes overboard to suggest that somebody who has made thousands of legitimate posts (that have been conservative for the most part) is liable to get excited by a certain post or two every now and then based on what they might know and others might not know. Just saying... I think if it was his only post or one of a few then there might be good reason to try to help provide perspective as you did.... but with a great contributor like him .....who would ever want to undermine his credibility or criticize him if they know and understand the history of his posts and great efforts to help others.
That is pretty pathetic. I never said LQMT had secrets. I said (and if you knew what you were talking about you would already know) that everyone has ramped up their secrecy of new developments much due to the new 5G innovations that will revolutionize lots of things and put many out of business and start many other billion dollar corporations and because of the increasing speed of the flow of information it is forcing companies with new innovations to come up with more techniques of disguising what is going on by..... for example..... using extra layers of code names. That is what I said and then you interjected your nonsense.
Boilingman,
I think you may be surprised to know how much super extra emphasis has been placed on secrecy and all sorts of new tactics that have been implemented in addition to using extra layers of code names and so forth to disguise things.... especially due to all the new innovations coming down the pipeline with the 5G capabilities. It will be a whole new world in the not too distant future. Of course, nothing is fool-proof but just saying..... it is a major world of difference in secrecy protocol this year versus last year and the year before that etc. And due to greater and greater competitiveness and the speed with which information travels these days and going forward that trend will continue to create greater and greater advantages to those who take the secrecy protocol very serious.
Exactly.. good one!!
Thanks for all the great research and effort that you (and about 10+/- others) share on these boards. I have tried to post this 2 other times but it keeps being deleted.
Yes.... but with a new industry.... they must not only continue inventing the technological advances, but they must also invent the operational protocols and systems for everything from sales to secrecy and ‘A to Z’ so they cannot 'spread their wings' too fast in that respect….... Much different than opening up a new car dealership or Taco Bell ……....and thus much of their ability to progress (no matter how much money or personnel they have) is also limited by the speed in which others can also adapt to the same dynamics .... With a 'build-out' of a completely new industry such as this it seems there must be a tremendous interdependence on external factors / limitations as well as their own internal factors / limitations..... and no matter who it is..... or how big they are .... whether on the buy side or sell side.... there is lots of trial and error taking place along the way that creates even more variables. But it seems that over the past several years there has been an acceleration of the 'pieces of the puzzle' falling into place more rapidly.
Seems to me the 'material events' with this new industry started coming together mostly in the past few years ... (which will accelerate in conjunction with the 5G and other technological rollouts) ....so if you were 10 or 15 years early to the party because you were unable to connect those prior dots ...... then what does your list that you referenced have to do with anything currently ?
Pretty shrewd if you ask me.... Positioning things so that (even as a very tiny company with such tiny overhead) you have partial control of what will end up producing trillions in sales over the course of the next decade.... and thus LQMT will be more like a 'money machine' with very Little Risk and mostly focused on enlarging their base of Intellectual Property and areas of Influence for producing more royalties thru the risk, expenses & overhead that others take on. Very smart business template... So I guess your approach if you were running LQMT is that by now you would have found a way to purchase hundreds of machines and hire thousands of LQMT employees and purchased a million square foot building... right???
Yep... you and some other great posters have done an excellent job of making it easy to follow for dummies like me....
But back then there was maybe one dot connected... now there are literally hundreds of dots that are much, much larger that have been connected.... big... big difference..... It is like saying you sold Amazon at 13 cents because nothing was happening at that time except botched deliveries, an e-commerce platform that was a joke... and so much other mismanagement... blah, blah, blah... Wonder how many people sold at 13 cents because they thought Amazon was a joke??? Many who may be dead broke today .... but could have easily been multi-millionaires if they would have just spent a little extra time connecting some dots....
Come on Boilingman.... Check out some of the historic price movements of penny stocks and oftentimes it is no different than what you are seeing with LQMT (assuming it is ready to take a sudden vertical move up here in the near future).. LQMT is a good candidate for the same type of vertical move because of so many ups and downs and the long journey, confusion etc and that is why it is important to never stop connecting the dots of the research that is out there ..... and much of which is laid in our laps by the great posters who dig very deep and bring so much information to the this board and the other boards as well.
Awesome Jaybiscuit !!! (Thanks very much for the time spent and your great contributions to the board).
Right... And Apple and others who want to keep their market advantages disguised as long as possible are going to great lengths these days to do just that.... and have also been bearing down extremely hard on the leaks and prosecutions etc ...... and there is also greater extremes being taken on the use of the 'code names' etc...... Those who want to be the best at innovation and be properly recognized also know they must be the best at non-disclosure of trade secrets etc. Lots of stuff being kept extra secretive these days with all the advances that are happening... and will be happening....as a result of the new world of 5G.
Not true... This is not the stage at which is can sell itself... Once the early adopters begin to re-order in larger & larger sizes and are more interested in delivery schedules than anything else then you can be sure it is selling itself.
So your Feeling / position is that the LQMT employees are slugs that are lazy and that is why you have not made money with the stock?
Well if that takes place then all who have invested at these levels will be billionaires by that time it does become deemed generic by the USPTO.
Looks like it to me too but we will have to wait for the next 'Another Week Passes' saga to get clear direction.
Can you tell us how you derived 40 years or which crystal ball gave you that timeframe... or is that estimated based on the 'Another Week Passes' saga?
Because these are very early stages of the Global Adoption.... Not even one-hundredth of 1 percent of the world is aware of the benefits and capabilities of this new material and the early adopters are currently validating that it is ready for prime time.... LQMT has a good amount of leverage.... and they have helped incentivize a lot of the activity in this new industry that is going on.... but at this stage sometimes there are unspoken 'pecking orders' that take place and smart navigators in this situation will know how to manage that... and will help to get enough fires lit that create a snowball effect in strategical ways that accelerate the adoption by the other 99.9% of the world. Again people who are watching LQMT with any degree of reason and common sense are watching them closely because they intend or hope to make 10, 50, 100 or 1,000 times their money... not because they are looking for 10% per year.... And most who are able to connect the dots see that there is a very good chance of those type gains happening. I know you can't see that because you are stuck in the world of 10% yearly gains. Personally I would much rather have a portion of my investments that are allocated towards the much longer wait times if I can achieve multiples of 10, or 100 or 1000 fold gains.
Have you ever personally been involved in the evolution of a new product ...... let alone a new industry...?? What they have done is very much a success but when you are pioneering a new industry ... let alone a new product... the perceived progress, value and level of success that has been accomplished is very limited to what you are first able to understand......There are some big rewards ahead for those who understand.
Well Stated ... Please repost after every new entry of the 'Another Week Passes' Saga.
Come on Patent Guy... You are a smart guy and you obviously know how long a Patent takes (oftentimes mega years).... so how long do you feel is fair for creating a new mega-billion dollar industry?? Simple logic.
Maybe there would have been ways to forge ahead and create revenues sooner... but a tiny company trying to enforce well structured and well written contracts involving the 'Whales of the world' are oftentimes not enough .....(especially in todays Judicial System that can be mostly about Influence versus Justice)..... And therefore, for a tiny company trying to sustain itself, and thrive & survive among the 'Whales' (who are the ideal customers) .... the contracts are only as good as the underlying leverage that exists as a primary foundation ...... Therefore, it seems that LI has taken the extra years and steps to create the proper foundation and leverage ... It wasn't quick and cheap... but it was necessary and much needed insurance that will offer a lot more protection and stability for LQMT Shareholders .... especially with an emerging Gazillion Dollar industry such as this... Everyone, including the Whales, are inclined to take the paths with the least potential risk and most potential rewards so for a tiny company such as LQMT to create these paths .... while also creating reliable streams of revenue and profits is a little bit of a minor miracle. When the masses start realizing they have accomplished this... it will be way too late for the extraordinary gains.
Yes... agreed and don't confuse real progress, logic and common sense with attempts by some to twist the huge positives into negatives as though it was all just some sort of 'the sky is falling' scam....(Pretty hilarious stuff). It took Li some extra years to align the Ingredients and Leverage needed for creating a cash machine that was an elusive concept until a Visionary such as Li was able to accurately put the pieces together in a way that could insure a small company like LQMT would be guaranteed their much deserved rewards (and thus looking out for the best interest of Shareholders). For those who have taken the time to understand the connected dots,...... the Fruits of the these efforts and the Leverage created will help incentivize many to participate in this amazing new industry and opportunity by simply purchasing stock in LQMT. In essence, Li has made things very simple for those who believe in him, the new industry and LQMT.
Considering all factors, details, etc ... there is no way these recent developments are not positive for LQMT..... regardless if the events are not apparent right away. There have been so many indications that a great majority of the 'learning curve' is finally behind us and things are moving full speed ahead.
When you say 'Botched' is this Botched meaning: a) they had no leverage at that point or; b) Botched meaning they intentionally botched things or; c) botched meaning they did not know how to craft something that could be legally enforced? If it is 'b' or 'c' that you are referring to ....could you please explain further from your direct knowledge. And if you don't reply then we will all know that is just more of the same rhetoric..
I may be wrong but I don't think Boilingman was meaning he would allow them to handle all sides of the equation but rather it is clear Apple is always going to take the lead in anything that were to happen in that respect .... and of course in doing so they would bear the biggest burden and responsibility for structuring and crafting the business points and depth of such an agreement.... while LQMT would be hiring their own expert lawyer(s) as well for the fine-tuning so to speak.