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don't believe the spin!
Schwab is stopping all buying of pred on jan 31st,2021
TD Ameritrade is not following Schwab according to TD conversation!
Stop misleading investors
Surely assume that PRED is going to leave grey's very soon.
They understand that they must in order to stay as a public company
zug i understand you thoughts.
where i disagree is that most buy biotech stocks based upon the future not the past!
PRED is going to get off the grey's one way or another! I guarantee it!
If they decided to stay there it would service little purpose and if that is the case they should go private.
I may be dead wrong with my thought process and if that is the case i will pay a heavy toll!
My investment strategy has always been very contrarian and if i see value that is discounted i get involved. I believe and see continued reason to average down during the next 2 weeks of tax selling pressure.
I am not an emotional investor, but very seasoned. PRED may be a big mistake, but as outlined in my past post i believe the real risk is not owning PRED at fire sale prices.
09/23/2012
this is roughly the last time PRED traded around .10 I am sure there was not much there but an empty shell ( somewhere around 40 million shares at least.
sometime during the formulation and during 2018 the shares outstanding around 250 million the stock stock never traded below .88 and mostly trade between $1.00 and over $3.60 and of course ran to $7.00
So now we have a .094 stock price
reasons.
1.grey market limited buying ! most cannot buy but only sell!
2.there has been one news item since April or so
3.perfect tax selling candidate
4. investor opinion could not be any more negative
5.shareholder grievance leading to halt in 15c211 filing
So the stock is trading as if there is nothing there!
Please explain
52 patents
endo and fertility test development
stem cells being sold esp WJ-flow much more superior to past cocktail
certified CIA lab
huge genetic library
saliva testing going on in house
agreement with PRPH for professional guidance concerning CLIA and saliva testing- receives royalty from sales of testing
relationship with TMO
relationship with Atrin ( cancer cmpy that needs their genetic library)
relationship with PRPH
valued BOD
#1 auditor in Nation
top 10 law firm used
Chairman of cmpy past officer of PFE vaccine division- extremely positive- Sorrentino
fully reporting and current with the SEC
There has been zero news, but the website has been actively updated with valuable information. such as virus testing and wj-flow stem cell cocktail.
Finally, 99.9% hate this stock, the cmpy, management, BOD and everything else about it makes me love it.
It may go lower for the next couple of weeks, but 2020 is almost over and out!
In my opinion you sure get a lot of cmpy for .09 Don't get fooled again" The who My Generation album!
this is plain garbage! The company is fully reporting and current.
The auditor is #1 auditor in the Nation
The auditor grants company on going viability
Their law firm is top in Nation.
TOP BOD's
Most of the other otc public companies cannot muster these qualifications.
Where you people come from! The lies are just out of this world!
You think that there is no brokerage firm that will file the 15c211!
F=k give it a rest already
Of course if you have huge gains and want offset with dogs of 2020 i would consider the exercise and buy back in 31 days or if you buy back within 31 days it would be a wash sale.
You really think that i am unaware of buy and sell strategy for tax reasons!
FUNNy!
This is the #1 reason that there has been huge selling pressure on PRED! Many or most will sell the dogs for tax relief.
I assume patient investors that want to own pred will most likely wait until the last day or so for the last of sellers.
I don't assume much or corporate side is going to change until Jan 2021.
Time to go to sleep
brook you are not going to change their minds! don't know why many remain on this thread when they don't even own the stock. some were very lucky and got out only partially harmed, but they will not leave it alone
PRED is the "dog of the Year 2020", but does not mean that pred could turn into a unicorn in a field of green.
If you are not in you cannot play!
I have continue to average down in order to lower my cost to .50 - at this point selling and take a loss is pure stupidity. When the company goes BK, which i doubt i will believe that there is a path.
Reality know one at the company or slaughtered shareholders benefit by being on the grey's! Brad has not sold his paper! From what i have gathered whether true or not is this Jennings person has held up 15c211 filing to get off the grey sheets. Because of this other options will needed to put in place. Consider that we help and continue to advise PRPH to become a Clia lab and partner with them for saliva testing. and their stock is now $11.00 with a $120 million market cap with tiny revenue. We on the other hand trading the grey market 90% of the investment community cannot buy and we are 100% more of a cmpy with huge promise and have a market cap of $30 million or .12/sh
Here is what you get for .12
1.stem cells
2. endo and infertility kit potential
3. covid testing using saliva
4. atrin partnership
5. clia lab
6. huge genetic library
7. at least 52 patents
8. fortune 100 BOD
9. Top law firm in Nation
10. #! accounting firm in Nation
11. agreements with TMO
12. this guy WARD is truly amazing
13. the real risk at this point is not owning at .12
peach did the stem help you?
Dablood never happened because from high level conversation that "Well" never paid the balance of monies to d=Dablood for total production. The product has never been sold. PRED does not have the money from what i am told or what i assume. In reality it is a dead issue. Their test was early stage testing. I assume Abbotts nose test and saliva are most accurate.
Abbott still i hear is only 75% proven because of lack of proper testing.
The blood draw is most likely still the most accurate. The saliva test works and i assume other testing platforms work well as well.
so Dablood out and Saliva test in am
personally i am not sure it is a cooked bird, but i do believe they will let it driff lower until next year and then blow some smoke,MAN!
more garbage is birdies prtt ( another class act)
many traders do this in order to take the loss and re buy at a lower price.
The IRS knows but hard to catch. Could have been an idiot! He saw the closing price months ago and thought it was real and like a stupid "robinhood " person took the plunge and now has a $18k loss. We all have that so this guy put cam eo the party late and is now have lot of company!
trying to buy paper on TD all day @ .115 ( i must have the pred covid)
greenie i suggest that you call S and connect to trading NOT a broker ( stupid) and tell them you want trading to go and check the market- they are really obligated to check 3, if not Canacord is their major connection considering they bought TD Ameritrade.
If they can help call back and try to talk to someone without an empty skull!
No you are wrong! They "crowed" profits ( gross profits) which was garbage anyway! But birdie and other pushed the narrative. They knew that it was garbage but pushed anyway. Then the Thailand crap with the girl snowboarder ! Then the Thailand spa and other bullsh+t. Then they get acquired by some Russian pharma ( what ever that is) The pharma has some huge numbers with again GROSS PROFITS! If they ever intend to get listed and file with the SEC they have a lot cleaning to do!
It is a birdie play and you don't have to look far to see his nuclear disaster altn, mfst,ewll,kpay,mmmm,lrdg,prtt,pred and there are more , but with him they just evaporate into his mind
It is really not old news and call the questioners "ladies' JUST A CHILDISH COMMENT! Bird and even seeking alpha crowed about the gross profits!
Now you say that is old news! Well it is not old news, but actual new news! RAFA before this report had a bk of .10 now a negative .60 bk! they crowed about the profits, but that was all false because they wrote off $60,000,000.00 yielded a $1.40/sh LOSS! This is not old news but current news and also how fraud is conducted! The birdie will spin and it may or may not remain the $300.00 share price and "stock of his worthless life"
NO not old news , but real news that shows the true color of this beast!
The parent company is not trading but the sub RAFA! UNtil you get true audits and trading under SEC regulations one must assume dishonesty.
Remember prior to this Q )july 31, 2020) this management crowed about profits. Reality there are no profits because they just wrote off $60 ,000,000.00 ( $ 60 million)
Then you have the Russians!
Sure they may have another Q release around Dec 15( third Q)
Even the parent cmpy has no audits! NOt fulling reporting
https://backend.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/258401/content
Q july 31st 2020 shady see above
roughly $116,000,000 market cap
negative book value of $.60
loss per share for quarter $1.40 ending July 31 2020
their 3rd Q due Dec 15, 2020
rev for Q not audit $5 million ( can you believe it)
read for yourself
https://backend.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/258401/content
funny thing any of their filing do not list shares outstanding on income statement.
They delist PRED fully report with SEC and #1 accountant in USA and this stuff is allowed to trade
PRED has been a super dog! some might say because of their own doing, bad luck, bad timing or other issues. I agree, but that was the past and the future is the only thing that i am interested in! I may have made a huge financial mistake , but only time will tell.
For all the haters you might have considered that you won, but that was yesterday! My average is .55! One major catalyst and that price is in the rear view mirror.
The haters and the bias monitors i agree you won as of yesterday, but again i live for tomorrow
the #1 accounting firm in the nation thinks PRED is a fraud! Now that is the funniest statement of the day from limited brain capability! That is like Santa is a trans
Maybe that is now with covid they have even less of a life!
Finra is 100% to blame at this point! Fully reporting and current!
Auditor is number #1 in the nation and know question about the company's existence .
Plus the book value does not represent a true book value but a stated value!
There is little doubt that pred acts like the "dog" of your life, but
that is only a perception. There is a reality that will be realized for
many if they can hang on! All the haters will eventually get shocked by the turn around and move on to Birdman picks!
They sure have been great elww, kpay, mmmm, lrdg, prtt,rafa mfst and of course pred the stock of his life $300 target, now it is RAFA @ $300.00
PRED will work only issue is TIMING
TD Ameritrade allows buying and selling
I wonder how you can make a decision that pred will trade sideways until FEB 2021? How do you know that?
How do you know what is going on behind the scene?You really think the management wants to stay on the "greys"?
FINRA is a disgrace as a capitalistic regulator PRED's accountant is #1
accounting firm in the nation! What they do need is an aggressive SEC law firm to force the hand of Finra not there patent and merger law firm- that i can agree on!
Of course they want out and assume all areas to remedy this horror are being looked at and i assume very soon something is going to happen.
We have a raging bull market and pred has been in a raging bear market!
Change is coming!
Either wait and suffer or move on and then you will look back at all the lost profit by not still owning and averaging down on this dog!
I can call it a dog! #1 i don't like dogs in general!don't really care for dog owners either!
BUT a dog can turn into a unicorn because it came upon a new pasture!
It has been a horrible investment, but it could very well STILL turning into a great investment! Only time will tell!
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brad owns 40 million plus 10k@.80 people complained about that!
concerning the other BOD- just because it is not in their names does not mean that they have not bought in LLC, S corp, family trust or other entity!
If this is not true maybe they just don't buy stocks! Maybe that is not their thing! In my opinion it is stupid for them not to buy, Sorrentino is not a stupid guy and neither are some of the other players.
I noticed on the website that there is a special phone number now for info on Endo and infertility products. I plan on calling on Monday
When this company gets moved either in one piece or many pieces all hell will break out on the upside in my opinion
they own td ameritrade
TD Ameritrade allows buying and selling
I wonder how you can make a decision that pred will trade sideways until FEB 2021? How do you know that?
How do you know what is going on behind the scene?You really think the management wants to stay on the "greys"?
FINRA is a disgrace as a capitalistic regulator PRED's accountant is #1
accounting firm in the nation! What they do need is an aggressive SEC law firm to force the hand of Finra not there patent and merger law firm- that i can agree on!
Of course they want out and assume all areas to remedy this horror are being looked at and i assume very soon something is going to happen.
We have a raging bull market and pred has been in a raging bear market!
Change is coming!
Either wait and suffer or move on and then you will look back at all the lost profit by not still owning and averaging down on this dog!
I can call it a dog! #1 i don't like dogs in general!don't really care for dog owners either!
BUT a dog can turn into a unicorn because it came upon a new pasture!
It has been a horrible investment, but it could very well STILL turning into a great investment! Only time will tell!
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I understand it has not been completed. I was told a few months. what does that mean? It means this company has had massive wild fires for months and months and -believe it or not has been trying to extinguish the flames.
All i do know is if pred was not a prisoner of the grey market it would be dramatically higher than current levels.
Remember they use to put new out every couple of weeks! They paid attention to their stock until the SEC wrongfully suspended them in April !
I guess i was not smart enough to sell and move on, BUT i believe and have continued to average down into HELL! My investment strategy leads me in that direction.
I am a discounted value investor, contrarian, speculator and i average down. Averaging down has been my most successful tool in order to maximize my return. Mentally focused and not a cry baby.
We will see it this pans out in my favor sooooooner than later.
tax selling is of course an option for many because pred has been a super "dog", BUT you will need to buy back in 30 days if you so decide so it is not considered a "wash" sale.
One assumes that you are correct that there will be no news until the next Q report due Feb 15th, BUT you have to believe that things are in the works to rid itself from the grey market!
The haters think that management has given up and is heading toward BK!
This is not true. The grey market has ruined this stock management has not!
FINRA has ruined this stock by not letting them re surface. This cmpy
uses the number 1 auditor in the USA. It is a disgrace that FINRA scum will not let them leave.
The near term remedy is merge into another trading vehicle, nasdaq shell or SPAC or even a fully reporting otc shell. There are options and eventually management will have a echoice.
I do not know the ramp levels except i did know at one point in time there was a fully shift doing the testing of saliva. The recent Q just released shows the $1 million in sales from testing so you could figure out that it was around 1000/day give or take. I can only assume they have ramped up, but do they have the contacts for growth in that segment? I assume because of their stem cell business that they supply to can supply them with potential biz! Concerning the WJ Flow - i believe that this is taking the place of the corecyte that was 73% of stem cell sales. I understand that this was developed BUT not sold until recently because of cost, which recently has come down dramatically and has a strong backlog in the Queue. This product is much better!
The current market cap is not and does not fairly represent the underlining value of pred! Markets are not very efficient when trading on the greys. Very limited amount of players, BUT plenty of haters.
wj flow from conversation is 2.0 for knee issues than the prior corecyte.
It has been around for awhile , but the processing was much more expensive. Current time frame PRED has been able to process cheaper and now more economical . Backlog i hear is very strong. believe it or not!
ready to get beat up or deleted
even if we only stay at 1000/day and net profit of $50/kit~ this is excellent cash flow as well attempt to regain lost traction with the other potential of pred.
I do believe prph is very aggressive with their numbers. If we would claim such a bold assumption we would be shut down.
The $50 number is reasonable if you consider the cost to the end user is $100.00
Testing is exploding. In Utah alone almost 5000 new case yesterday. So we have sick people and we also have people getting tested but may be asymptomatic
I believe a ramp up is happening.
Look bottom line PRED is built for BK the way it looks! Most of this
price is do to grey market listing! Just look at all the possible angles and if it was on a different exchange this stock would not be @ .17!
I am a non emotional investor and sell the value in their assets~ the genetic library, the clia lab, their stem cell business, their endo and infertility test, the atrin agreement, their tmo relationship, their BOD( many think are worthless, but look at their accomplishments ),saliva testing for covid, agreement with prph and their 52 patents.
You are going to tell me it is only worth .17? Sure the hater think it is worth less than zero. This just white noise! PRED is a buy like it or not!
Management is being forced to act concerning getting it off the grey sheet because a number of firms will not allow purchasing of shares anymore- because of cross bones and skull symbol!
Keep inmind their accounting firm is #1 in the USA and finra refuses to release them. The fix is in and it is disgusting!
wj flow is a product that has been around for awhile, but has been very expensive~ recently the price has come down dramatically ( all about processing) it is an enhanced product for Osteoarthritis (knees) I know because waiting for availability ( strong backlog) the corecyte was used but now halted while being reviewed with the FDA. This product contains
extracellular matrix - composed of glycosaminoglycans (hyaluronic acid)
This product will be another arrow in the quiver while endo and infertility white paper formulated! The cash generated can aid in ongoing operations as well possible funding for Atrin!
Testing for covid is on fire and one can only assume pred's saliva test has jumped!
Even if it is at 1000/day @ $50 profit/day and only 5 days/wk ( actually is most likely is 7 days per week- the profit is $4.5 million profit for the 3 month ending Dec 31st- rev of $9 million possible just from testing.
When PRPH talks about ramping up to 10,000 test per day ( 10Q) and in their press release 4000 /day- one can see there are enormous possibilities for double or triple the amount of testing for pred for the next 6 months while the vaccines are distributed . Pred is going to leave the grey's one way or another
if i guess the right price can you supply me with a bottle of macallan 25?
one more tid bit
as you prph is also doing testing and they say their ramp up is going to be in the many thousands per day! Well we should all hope they do really well because we get royalty from every one and that will be used to lower our borrow.
As mention even if pred does 1000/day/5days/week/ equals $3,000,000 profit during -ending Dec 31 , 2020 the Q on rev of $6,000,000 -conservative i believe should easily be more.
I will bet it might be 7 days per week
big changes in the wind! NOT BK as many of you wish
before this gets removed~ TMO supplies the medical machinery as seen in the picture for pred to use the spectrum device to assay the sample.
Source: the ramp up really bgan during the month of Sept 2020. So primary rev ramp is only for Sept. Do the math. Profit $50/test
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https://www.predictivelabs.com/assurance-vr/
lr poison has left- only a few others and maybe we can have positive discussions
If they only did 1000 tests/day only 5 days per week and continue $50 profit/test for the current Q ending Dec 31st that would result in
$3,000,000 profit on gross rev of $6,000,000 on total sales of test kit.
Remember i only did 5 days/wk- i really assume it is 7 days/week
so that would be an extra 10 per month or $1,500,000 additional for 3 month Q.
Now if they ramp up to 1500 test/day per 20 days per month times 3 months the picture gets even brighter.
That would be $4,500,000 profit from testing on rev of potentially $9,000,000 again if the did 7 dayds per week so an extra 10 days per month
the results in an additional profit of $2,250,000.00
lots of possible profits from increasing volumes.
Does not take into stem cell sales. even though corecyte is gone WJ flow
takes the place and is more effective.
We get off the greys soon and this stock will begin to reach like an emerging winner instead of a slam dunk BK candidate which it is not
when you put in a sell order the trader goes to a market maker that trades the stock. The trade is a matched trade. An example i have a bid today to buy 5000 sh@.135 at TD, the stock has been trading around me because my order is not seen by the seller. This is the major disadvantage of being stuck on this horrible exchange. There is zero transparency one hand does not see the other. TD primarily uses Canacord . If you really want to get a true price range ask your broker which most likely does not understand "greys" you must how to navigate the language needed to get the info that you need. Technically you are obligated 3 quotes must most of these idiots that you will talk too has zero knowledge about the grey market.
The client usually has little ability to understand the workings of the greys
2020 sounds like your understanding of greys might have some limitations
TD has unlimited trading on pred
Your Fidelity may have frozen bid and ask which mean nothing. It is not an active electronic market TD for months quoted .82-$1.30
So your listed quote did not mean anything- So i guess you learned something . You tried to sell your pred at a price that did not exist.
Yes the corecyte sales has stopped, but the WJ flow is better and the price has come down and demand is very high! Instead of crying like usual go to the website and review the pdf on WJ flow and the information is very informative.
All i can say is pred will leave the greys sooner than later
It is funny that i have a huge loss in the stock like many, but i am not a cry baby! I am non emotional and try to sail thru the fog aiming for the lighthouse.
Most refuse to see that this company is worth more than the current share price
clia lab
stem cells
saliva testing ( verified)
genetic library
52 patents
Atrin (cancer research cmpy)
TMO relationship
fortune 100 bod
top number 1 accounting firm
recent agreement with prph
prph a lab with $100 million market cap, while pred $45 million market cap a lab and much much more all for .157
PRED built for BK but instead built for eventual success
ALL FOR .157 AND THE HATERS CANNOT STOP!
schwab owns td Ameritrade as you may or may not know!
The dark clouds over the grey's is a plan to eradicate either problem
listings or SEC bullshit as is the case of pred.
Fully reporting and uses the number 1 accounting firm in the USA and
they will not let them go! It is shameful
Sooner than later they will leave! Management knows it is time to act
because this listing is detrimental for proper growth and shareholders
Of course the haters believe pred is a cancer! In reality all pred wants to do is help people ! shameful a group of you must not have a soul
we already know that e-trade, fidelity will not allow investors to buy pred any longer. you can sell but you cannot buy!
TD- Ameritrade allows every thing for now, but it is possible that buying pred on other platforms could be limited on the buy side.
This results in management must find away to escape.
My opinion either a listed SEC filer, a SPAC or a nasdaq corp. It is coming
They have know choice
don't worry next we will hear that the 10Q released today is fake!
It was never going to happen and the cmpy was going to declare Bk!
Well that did not happen either
1. had $1 million dollars at end of Q . Of course that is fake!
2. Revenue around $5 million and from operations around $5 million, but
impairment because of Corecyte and D&A- $10 million
$ So $5 million revenue and around .015 loss from operations.
3. stated bk is around .14 ( conservative - D is top 1 accountant so don't look for breaks.
4. unused line off credit $2.8 million
5. borrowed $4 million from PRPH but it get worked off from saliva testing in Penn
6. Covid testing that most did not believe is happening! Oh my God! It was
true! The real testing began during the end of August and all of Sept and revenue derived $1,000,000.00
So assume 1000/day 5 days per week and profit of $50 results $1,000,000/month so for the Q that is $3,000,000.00. It $50 profit not $30 as somewhat states for prph.
7. WJ flow more positive that only corecyte. Been around for awhile , but pricing was an issue, but the price is much better and for the knee this stem cell cocktail is much better. Could be an aggressive sales for this product.
Believe endo and infertility will happen
Atrin still alive and pred and atrin is a very positive
I believe because of a number of brokerage firm not letting investors the opportunity to purchase pred that we are getting closer to moving pred down a different avenue.
Finally, PRPH is a lab and has a market cap of $100,000,000 PRED has a clia lab and many other assets, patents, stem cell products, atrin, TMO, genetic library , fortune 100 BOD and top accounting firm yielding a
market cap $45 million--- do the math!
The haters will continue to hate! The emotional cry babies hold on but refuse to average down ( smartest thing to do). Step back and look at the value!
prph vs pred
prph market cap $100,000,000.00 a lab
pred market cap $45,000,000.00 a lab but everything else
cheap very cheap @.15
of course the q will released. the k was released why do u think that the q would not happen?