Great work. For each severance package, the employee is required to be “terminated by the Company.” “Company” is a defined term and I dont see the definition anywhere. Does Company include its assigns? If AMRN is bought by a 3rd party, the terms of the severance agreements could be ineffective. These packages may very well only apply to just what they say and may not apply to buyouts at all.

I’d like to see where “Company” is defined because that holds the key to these agreements. Did i just miss it somewhere? If Company also means assigns then that would be lovely

I agree with some of what you're saying but your gross generalizations about what a lawsuit is and who uses them for what are just that - generalizations. The scripts were published this morning and Generic V skyrocketed last week, and V scripts nosedived (taking the holiday into account) so I am completely in the blind about what makes you think generic V sales have "stopped on a dime."

Nevertheless, the suit(s) is filed and we are pressing on. Let's see what happens

I appreciate your thoughts but you're just incorrect about "any delay." There is a legal concept called "laches" that prevents a party from "sitting on its hands" and essentially rotting the fruit, so to speak, but there has not been nearly enough time passed to enable such a defense by the defendants. MUCH more time could have passed before the suit(s) were brought

Bouf, thank you for this. I didn't know that. Again, however, I don't know that the timing of this case was right because of the limited amount of provable losses at this stage. One way to slay the beast is to destroy it economically, which has a ripple effect throughout (the industry) and would be, theoretically, a pretty way to disincentivize other would-be infringers.

Of course, the firm representing AMRN should know what they're doing

I think it is imperative that AMRN vigorously enforce the limits of the generic label. My entire point was about the timing. I am eagerly waiting for the responsive pleading, but it will simply be "deny, deny, deny."

It seems very clear that they are violating the patent but I still question the timing. If it was so critical to AMRN they would have demanded enjoinder against Health-Net, which they did not do.

The Hikma/Dr Reddy case was also a slam dunk but we still lost (regardless the reason). There is no such thing as a slam dunk - EVER

really?

"I think you’re spreading sour grapes around for other reasons but that’s JMO."

Were you just spreading the love? Best you just ignore me. we aren't gonna get along

DT Guy.. shut it. Your opinions are no more valid than mine. If you can't see both sides of an argument, then don't comment

321176 is a reference to a post by Hindukush.

Health Net was the only one named and presumably the most egregious violator AMRN is aware of.

AMRN's lawyers aren't pissed at anything and going for blood.... that's just not real-world stuff. They're paid to do what they're retained to do and emotion is not part of the analysis.

My point is only that if Health Net prevails, then all other health-care companies (of Health Net ilk) will be given free reign to violate the patents. Further, and maybe more importantly, I wonder how much AMRN's actual damages are, as a result of Health Net's inducement to infringe (as well as from Hikma). The higher the damages, the higher the cost to the infringers and the more permanent the damage in the event of their loss. I question filing so soon after generic approval.

It doesn’t imply anything of the sort

“Demand” is just a word. The legal significance is merely that the demanding parties wants the demanded thing. It typically is supported by a right. The word is used regularly in litigation (and transactions) but does not imply any sort of attitude

This isn’t a joke. Why would you ask that?

Totally get ya but don’t ignore the possibly of an AMRN loss in the case against Health Net. It would be an absolute disaster, especially if HN sees no need to settle.

Acknowledged... for the time being. Do you think they will never have access to high-quality product or to a better purification method? I think they will definitely adjust, to their benefit, and will be incentivized to pursue it in the event the lawsuit fails. I’m not so sure adding this new defendant was in AMRNs best interest

Oh that’s not all. If AMRM does not prevail, the proverbial floodgates will open to any connected health plan and/or pharmacy to violate the generic label

If I do it, I will let you know what happens. The ironic thing about it is I’ve always wanted to do one because I know how much damage all this processed crap does to your body. I would love to either confirm it has a bad effect on me or not. If something significant changes in my life as a result, then Ill make some permanent changes. Unfortunately, I love food, and just don’t properly watch my diet like I used to

An MD friend of mine recommended I do exactly that. I will as soon as I can muster up a diet and get to the store to buy all that boring food

Yes. My numbers are ridiculously low. I have been on V for close to 3 years... I really font remember when I started it

The pain started I would say around 8 months ago and I was on copious amounts of ibuprofen because I was also having a bad back problem for the several months prior.

I don’t attribute it to inflammation because my blood markers show obscenely low SI.

Thank you for those links. I will look into those.

Lol what a conundrum. There is absolutely no logic that the lain would be limited to every ine of my fingers and thumbs... and since it is out of the box, Im getting no relief, which is why I brought it up here. Nice huh? Lol

Hi Jas,

Thank you so much for all of your input. All the other issues I have are tolerable and I am not looking for any relief from those issues. Im just bringing this all up here because the finger pain is often unbearable.
I do like your suggestions, though. Thank you.

Bite me

I did Judo for 30 years and injured many joints, especially in my toes, knees, shoulders and elbows. My fingers and right wrist are the only parts of my body with this problem.I do believe that my wrist has a ligament problem and I am not so concerned about the wrist. Simply said, there is no reason I can come up with to explain why one day i would wake up excruciating excruciating pain and everyone of my 10 fingers and thumbs

I meant that given the low inflammation numbers (thank you, Vascepa), the swollen-feeling, painful joints make no sense

If it means anything, my last blood test shows really low systemic inflammation, which apparently makes no sense.
C-reactive protein is <0.060
APOb- 52
ESR - <1

I take the ibuprofen probably one day per month and only one pill with food. i have been on V probably as much as 18 months to 2 years more or less

Thats what Im saying except that it is in every single finger and it has been going on dor 6-8 months. I didnt lie on a hand wrong or any other mechanical thing that may have caused this. One day, poof, there it was

I dont. I broke a small bone in my wrist years ago and I almost attribute the pain in my wrist to that. My fingers are stiff and very painful when I first wake up (all 10 fingers) anf then throughout the day, while the pain is probably a 6 all day long, it is tolerable. It wakes me up in the middle of the night numerous times.

For context, one day my fingers were fine, then the next day I woke up In the middle of the night with excruciating pain in every joint in both of my hands. It has never gone away

I take ibuprofen 800s for lower back problems bit it does nothing to my joint pain, unfortunately. Is advil the same as ibuprofen?

Thank you. I am still following up with my primary

I did see the hand and wrist specialist. Everything was negative. No carpal tunnel. No recent injury to the right wrist however I did fracture a bone in it 12 years ago.

This pain does not include numbness and it is very specifically only in the joints, but strangely only in my hands and all 10 fingers. There is no other joint pain in any other part of my body.

I will stop V for awhile. I don't know how long it takes to clear the body so that is on the list of things to find out. If that doesn't work then the next step will be to cut out carbs and all simple sugars for a month.

I have seen 5 separate doctors/specialists and they all scratch their heads on this one.

no. I am in excellent physical health. Testosterone supp but that's it and been doing that for 7 years

Have seen an ortho and rheumatologist.. I saw both and did xrays and an MRI with absolutely no evidence of joint problems (rheumatoid arthritis, arthritis, negative).

Next went to get gout tested.... nothing. I have had at least 30 separate tests (blood and urine) and absolutely everything is normal.

Maybe a neuro consult is next

did the pain go away after he stopped vascepa??

Did all of that... ruled out virtually everything. Seen all the specialists

Will you let me know how long it lasts? Ive had mine for more than 3-4 months

Vascepa Side effects - Joint pain

Hey all. I'm wondering if any of you who have been on V for quite awhile have experienced any inexplicable joint pain, especially in your fingers.

When I wake up every morning, my fingers absolutely kill me. The same goes with my right wrist (which I did previously injure. The symptoms weren't at all insidious, but came on in a single morning when I woke up.

My primary ran virtually every blood and urine test, sent me to rheumatology; sent me for xrays and to the Ortho, all of whom/which came back and said there is no obvious explanation for the pain. I have no arthritis in any of the joints.

It is TERRIBLE pain.

I'd love to know who else might be experiencing this, if anyone. It is a known common side effect of Vascepa so I may come off it for a month and see what happens

I am going to say one simple thing and then go back into the woodwork. Everything is not always as it seems. The silence by the other 2 judges could mean many things or nothing. The talkative judge may simply be the one judge who disagrees with the findings the other judges have already made... or could be speaking for all of the judges....

All I'm sayin' is that we might still be very well alive in the US... or we could already be dead.

Just don't throw the proverbial baby out... blah blah blah

Awesome. Thank you for this.