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Early detection, early detection, early detection!
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/19/george.karl.throat.cancer/?hpt=Sbin
We are at war with cancer. Did you ever see how the military or law enforcement uses night vision which lights up the perpetrators, recaf lights up the cancer. We know it works. I would pose a question on imaging TO MANAGEMENT (anonymous posters need not respond). Is it a money maker and worth pursuing, or is it not cost effective enough to jump thru the necessary hoops with the FDA?
As for the past I have learned a valuable lesson, and will no longer continue to answer or acknowledge these people. You can throw the bait out there. I'm just not biting.
We own oncopetdiagnostics.net AND oncopetdiagnostics.com so no one can attempt to fool the public. The .net redirects to the .com website. Try it yourself. Brilliant move. No one will have a chance to buy and hold us hostage for the domain name. Smart not devious.
This is becoming a real company. Mistakes were made, but now that Dr Burger is using his experience, this company is on a clear path to deliver on some of their promises.
This is the first time in 5 years I ever heard a statement from Dr Gold. His recent statement adds tremendous credibility.
This is also the first time I heard Dr Moro CLEARLY stating that he is leaving Dr Burger to run the company. FINALLY!
Personally, I feel Dr Moro came to the realization that he needs to focus on the science and let a seasoned biotech executive run the business. The fact that we are having a conference call with a Q and A demonstrates transparency and a new found confidence in the future.
Dr Burger, Walsh, and Gold all see tremendous untapped potential and feel that recaf will benefit mankind. Their words not mine. We will find out more about the status of abbott and inverness, potential licensees, patent protection, poc, 510k, pairing recaf with current markers, ways to communicate to the medical industry the benefits of recaf, the expansion into other countries, and hopefully some important information on earnings estimates.
Everyone should be excited. It's all coming together. Don't feel obligated to respond to anonymous posters that have an agenda. We have turned the corner. Focus on the real truths, most of what has been posted here is nonsense to plant seeds of doubt. I can honestly say that this is for real. Enjoy and relish in the fact that you are part of a product and company that is about to change medicine.
What would be productive at this point is garnering important questions that can be answered by management. No bs, I have patients scheduled during that Tues, so unfortunately I may bounce back and forth to attempt to listen, but I am not sure how much or if I will be able to ask questions. Maybe we can get our questions together beforehand and alert management, so they are prepared and willing to address all of
our issues. Let's take full advantage of this new willingness to speak directly to management.
I am out of patience with goldseeker since he has an agenda, and it has become annoying to even waste time on him. Half seems to enjoy it, so I'll let him go round and round if he likes, however, I am in total agreement with MCD. He wrote, " Moro should be trying to get the word out. Creating a website and issuing a press release to investors isn't creating any demand for the product. Moro seems more concerned about creating demand for the stock than he does about the product." Nailed it! I said this for 5 years. He is targeting investors which are mostly day traders, and he does not spend enough time selling recaf to the individuals that would be using our products. Where's the common sense? If he dislikes speaking in front of an audience or feels it is beneath him then hire or designate Dr Burger to do it. This topic is worthy of discussion, the rest of what I have read is the typical trash written by an anonymous poster. I will no longer post in response to feed someone's ego when it is certainly unjustified.
I get 2 posts a day, so let's just say to Goldseeker IT'S ON!!!! Your long awaited pump is here!!!
Oncopet is launched. That is historic for this company, and as with every dire prediction of Goldseeker he is wrong again. No surprise. Your wife is about to make a boatload off your shares. What we have is a superb combo. A brilliant scientist and a brilliant businessman. I couldn't be happier. Watch and learn. PRESELLING vouchers is GENIOUS!!!! BRAVO!!!!
Someone must have a problem stuttering, because he just keeps repeating the same posts. Isn't that called spam and would be cause for removal? Didn't this same anonymous poster make some horribly wrong predictions of bankruptcy, a failed IPO, and a return from Inverness? Approaching that 5600 post mark, it's in your grasp. How's that working out for ya? You scared that Biocurex will deliver, and there is not a damn thing that an anonymous poster can do to derail it. So sorry to disappoint you.
Of course when there is official concrete news, it will be a pump. Everyone is anticipating your post to that effect. You just can't wait to post it. How come no one is defending or even agreeing with your posts? Everyone else has moved on or conceded. Can you be wrong or is it the fact that the only person trying to stir the pot does not even own 1 share? EVERYONE ELSE HERE OWNS SHARES. Why is that? Investorshub should have a rule about anonymous posters spamming while holding NO shares in the company they are spamming.
If you can say whatever you want repeatedly, then it should be my right as a shareholder to bring out questionable motives. How come shareholders trust management and everyone that actually owns shares seems content for management to proceed with caution to get it right. Why is it always the same one person that's questioning everything, is the only person that has no reason to be here to begin with? Things that make you go, Hmmmmmmmmm?
Duke, just for educational purposes there is a video on the Da Vinci device on Geisinger's website which has transformed the prostatectomy procedure. Here is the link. http://www.geisinger.org/services/urology/davinci.html
Please avoid answering questions or providing your personal or familial history over the internet. Goldseeker has crossed the line. As a matter of fact everyone in my office MUST by law sign a HIPAA consent and Informed Consent and Notice of Privacy before they even sit in the chair. Of course, someone "portraying" a doctor probably is unaware of these laws.
Duke, I am not here to advise or answer questions about prostate cancer, because you need to find the most qualified specialist. I did look at the hospital and saw they had the Da Vinci, so the only question to ask if you cross that bridge is how many surgeries has your doctor performed with this device and what complications has he seen and has there been any mortalities or disabiling consequences from the procedure. Bottom line, what is HIS track record?
I just don't know why Goldseeker would jump into a conversation where he was not being addressed and start "selling" his own personal beliefs to someone which may lead to dire consequences. IMO, and it seems to be everyone else's as well, is to avoid being baited or feel the compulsion to answer this self-proclaimed guru of all things known to mankind. For goodness sakes, this guy won't ever admit when he's wrong.
Duke, the only bit of advice I can give you as I do to everyone is choose your doctors wisely. That will, and should be your most critical decision. You are way ahead of the game with early detection. (If you followed Goldseeker he would force you wait and watch......it makes me ill to think about it. Thank the Lord above in reality he is not a doctor!!!) Best of luck.
Debating with a self-proclaimed doctor, FDA expert, international law expert, SEC lawyer, microbiologist, and don't forget patent attorney.
Duke, taking advice from an anonymous poster could have deadly consequences. PLEASE get the best doctors and do your homework. Half is referring to a robotic surgical device called the Da Vinci manufactured from Intuitive Surgical (one of my favorite stocks). IMO, it is the only way I would consider having prostate surgery. It is so precise and clean that it would be near to impossible for any surgeon to have the skills of this amazing medical device.
IMO, gold is crossing the line giving you advice which could have deadly consequences. Shame on him. With recaf combined with PSA you have a definitive answer on PROSTATE cancer. There is tremendous value in having the test. Recaf is the difference between surgery or not having the surgery, and it does catch early cancer. The stakes could not be higher. Gold is the LAST person you should listen to. He has alot of nerve trying to take a medical history and giving you advice. HE IS NOT A DOCTOR!!! I am angry.
Duke, you are right for being frustrated about not having recaf available yet. You certainly remember that when recaf is combined with the PSA you have no chance of a false positive. Yet, that is precisely what goldseeker NEVER ONCE mentions due to his selective memory, and why he pokes fun at you by saying to get a competitor's test when he knows it has not been shown to work with the PSA in the same manner. Let's see...... a simple blood test or a surgical biopsy?
The sad thing about gold's unasked for advice is from the same individual that refuses to acknowledge the importance of EARLY detection of cancer. All of his cohorts have either surrendered or vanished, and he is the only one remaining disputing the relevance of recaf. Just wait for the next press release and see if he calls it a pump.
Duke, I sincerely hope you have the best doctors, and God forbid it is anything of concern you will have caught it very early.
At least Zolax appears to have a little class. That was unexpected and appreciated. He just stated that we agree to disagree, but he at least has moved on and gave Goldseeker the same advice.
The IPO was OVERsubsribed. Just keep that in mind. This company has recently added alot of new savvy investors that know a good thing when they see it. Inverness is such a strong player in diagnostics and they "own" POC testing, then add a seasoned biotech executive that has a history of being effective in the design and manufacturing of poc devices and it gives investors alot to be giddy about.
Enjoy the Super Bowl. The weather is perfect down here in south Florida. It should be a great offensive battle.
This is quite important to put an end to the mischaracterization of recaf. Goldseeker (who has no medical background whatsoever) compares recaf to Haah. Everyone that understands that recaf picked up EARLY cancer understands the value of this. Mata points out, "I was grateful to see one of our prolific posters posting that pr from panacea. wow. 50% of the the cancer samples were stage 3 and 4 and NO SAMPLES WITH BENIGN TUMOR GROWTH. No wonder haah is not generating any interest."
Doesn't that bode well for our 510(k) which IMO Dr Moro is not wasting any time obtaining? A predicate is all we need and if they allowed AMDL and haah we are looking at 6 months after submission (this year).
Thanks Half for pointing out the buys that Gold cleverly forgot to mention. It seems brand "goldseeker" needs a makeover. Even Zolax who also never had anything positive to say told goldseeker to move on. That was the first time I agreed with Zolax. That is some sound advice.
The comedy continues. "Look at the alias of NeedProfit. Does that sound like a handle for a trader?"
And Goldseeker sounds like a handle for a trader that own NO shares yet has written over 5500 posts (approaching 5600) 24/7 holidays and weekends all hours the day and night?
If you are able to make those comments about someone, I am expressing just what everyone else is thinking, but I just beat them to the punch.
I concur.
One word..... Sad.
We all know the motives for gold's reaction to every post or press release. I'm optimistic about the future, especially after getting a buy alert on Inverness, our partner. Everyone I have spoken to about recaf in and out of the medical circles is eager to have access to this technology. I would not be surprised to find out that many of my colleagues were in on the IPO. Gold cannot deny we have the 2 most powerful diagnostic giants and the best 2 licensees anyone could think of. Just associating our product with their name adds a massive amount of credibility. IMO, Dr Moro finally is in the driver's seat being freshly funded, and can successfully launch the first wave of diagnostic tests to become available to the market. If I were Dr Moro, I would launch doggy recaf and simultaneously apply to the FDA for a 510(k) using the Haah as the predicate. Within 6 months and a few bucks and we are good to go.
IMO, this is exactly what Dr Moro is going to be working on. While we are awaiting a response from the FDA which should be a slam dunk thanks to Panacea's Haah marker, Dr Burger is firing up the plant to have the POC test ready to go. No time will be wasted. IMO, Dr Moro is at least 2 years behind where he wants to be, but this is a good thing for new and current investors because Dr Moro won't waste a minute's time. The one thing that always sets me off is when he throws money away on penny stock news letters. There is no need for that.
IMO, Inverness is the one to watch. If they publicly acknowledge this company and speak openly about recaf, IMO this stock will hit all time new highs. I can almost guarantee goldseeker will choose whatever positive comments I have just made and put his usual boring, predictable reasons for the end of Biocurex.
Carefree (nice stock pick), I used to own Inverness, truthfully made a few bucks, but wish I had the fortitude to buy when they were in the 20's. I'm a big believer in stem cells and spread my bets. That recommendation for Inverness came to me today, so apparently these highly paid advisors like what they see. You also must agree that Inverness is a superb partner and the fact that Dr Burger has publicly announced a POC device is very exciting. I don't blame you, or 1 single investor (excluding 1 crybaby with a huge chip on his shoulder) for being upset or having a very guarded attitude toward management. Biocurex has just gone thru a trial by fire, in which most early biotech companies fail to succeed. Biocurex made it. Not only did they make it, they overshot their number. Well over 6 million dollars. That certainly allows me to sleep better at night.
Just received an alert entitled, 'Inverness is poised for a breakout'.
It goes on to say that Inverness is the world leader in point of care diagnostics, and its global market is estimated at $4.5 billion. It says that its test are built for rapid deployment in homes and doctors' offices. With a needle prick, it can identify everything from cardiac conditions to infectious disease to cancer. Sales are growing at 22% in the midst of the current slowdown. With the population aging, more patients are demanding faster, more accurate testing. Not a bad partner to be associated with. I am not making a recommendation on the stock, but it is nice to know the potential that awaits recaf. Now I'll turn it over to the bashers.
Gold is a hoot. "You will see that I am correct." How many times have you said this during your past 5500 posts, and you have NEVER been correct.
Remember this is also from an individual that admits to having a (DRE) digital rectum exam twice a year. Go figure.
Punchout, I know the frustration you are feeling with a biased individual that is a self-proclaimed expert on everything from the detection of cancer to SEC filings to FDA regulations to the laws outside the United States.
Here is a simple way to help this individual understand in lay terms the importance of adding a new tool in the war on cancer, and it is a war in the sense that if you do not combat the disease you can lose your life.
Let's take one of the the simplest tests performed by your physician that can be quite revealing. Blood pressure. Most individuals are asymptomatic, yet they can have elevated blood pressure to the point where it becomes deadly. It can lead to a stroke, blindness, loss of function of major organs, and death. Now, when the doctor discovers the blood pressure has escalated to dangerous levels (which he may take several times and in each arm, then listen to your heart and perform a physical exam) an astute doctor will probably draw blood and do a CBC, and order an MRI of the kidneys after injection of dye.
What recaf simply does (for the 5500th time) is simply test the blood for cancer. Just like the like blood preesure test. If recaf identifies MALIGNANT cancers and eliminates false positives you would be negligent not to prescribe the test. I am certain your nonmedical biased opinion of recaf will never change because you have plenty of free time on your hands to find obscure articles that are not in peer reviewed journals. Trust me, everyone is expecting it.
How is it that someone has no involvement in the company, has no medical background, holds no shares in the company, but spends countless hours tapping the keyboard to write 5500 posts focused on Biocurex's technology.
Don't you get it. The IPO was OVERsubscribed!!! Is that not a "tell".
My favorite quote from all of his 5500 posts will remain, "Go ahead and buy all the stock you want. It doesn't matter at all to me."
Gold, life's to short.
Gold's latest statement, " For the past ten years, I find no support for a universal marker except what you read from Moro and his supporters."
Then 2 sentences later he writes, "Look at the editor of Time Magazine. He named the HaaH universal cancer marker as one of the top ten medical breakthroughs of 2007."
Let's see, according to the calendar it is currently 2010 and that article was published in 2007. 2010 minus 2007 equals 3 years. Gold's last statement was........drumroll please......"For the past TEN years, I find no support for a universal marker except what you read from Moro and his supporters."
Someone has a serious math problem.
More fun stuff. He writes as usual, ad nauseum, " What has happened to the HaaH marker? It performs similar to RECAF in sensitivity and specificity so why is the product not selling."
Show us where Haah which works the same as recaf when combined with current markers (according to Mata and I have tremendous respect and credibility for) and has never been proven to eliminate all false positives which I feel I must point out to Gold on almost a daily basis. I wonder why?
Gold why don't you do a little experiment and ask your doctor (the one that does the DRE on you for kicks twice a year) if he would prefer to have a PSA test come back with no false positives or leave the test as is with many false positives?
And more. Gold writes, "Look at the history of AMDL and DR70. It failed marketing in 2001 because of all the complaints of false positives." Did he just say false positives? What was presented at the ISOBM? You know, the presentation about recaf in combination with the most popular current markers eliminates those complaints of false posities you are referring to in the above statement. Hmmmmmm? Let's go to the grocery store and look at the fruit section. An apple, pear, orange, banana are all fruits, yet they are different, are they not? Now AMDL, HaaH, and recaf are all markers, yet they are different (as pointed out by Mata), are they not?
Now " la piece de la resistance", Gold writes, "Go ahead and buy all the stock you want. It doesn't matter at all to me." It doesn't matter? Why are you here then?
I guess gold thought he could answer subjectively. If the answer was favorable toward recaf he would embellish his answers to skew the outcome. I should have known better from reading some of his 5500 other posts. (Not a misprint).
Goldseeker, I am fed up with your attempt to discredit recaf with a NONmedical opinion and illogical reasoning.
You need to answer some questions that are as simple as TRUE or FALSE. This is not a trap just shows your credibility.
1)To kill cancer you must first find cancer.
TRUE or FALSE?
2)Early detection of cancer improves your odds of survival?
TRUE or FALSE?
3)Currently doctors can take a drop of blood and diagnose all types of cancer?
TRUE or FALSE?
4)Current markers have been proven to detect all cancers without misrepresentation of benign tumors?
TRUE or FALSE?
5)All cancers exhibit symptoms which can alert the patient?
TRUE or FALSE?
6)Patients can be genetically predisposed to cancer?
TRUE or FALSE?
7)Cancer affects only certain age groups and ethnicities?
TRUE or FALSE?
8)Doctors are not interested in detecting all cancer?
TRUE or FALSE?
9)Early detection of cancer can possibly eliminate the need for chemotherapy and/or surgery?
TRUE or FALSE?
10)A biopsy is necessary under all circumstances?
TRUE or FALSE?
11)There is a risk of cancer cells metastisizing from one area to another via the bloodstream or lymphatic system?
TRUE or FALSE?
12)If cancer is treated it can ever return?
TRUE or FALSE?
13)The importance of a reliable universal marker is that it has the ability to detect all cancers on all ethnicities, ages, and genetic predispostion?
TRUE or FALSE?
14)It is less invasive and more cost effective to have a blood test than a surgical biopsy?
TRUE or FALSE?
15)It is not possible to monitor all types of cancer or determine if the cancer has metasized with current markers (key word:all)?
TRUE or FALSE?
16)Doctors should do a thorough examination of all of their patients even if the patient has no chief complaints?
TRUE or FALSE?
17)Does recaf satisfy all of the above?
TRUE or FALSE?
Anyone can play along and let's compare answers. IMO, there will be one individual that may call in sick or obstain for personal reasons.
#1 The IPO was OVERsubscribed
#2 6(+)miilion-1 million- 1/2million= 3 million?
WOW!!!! There you have it folks. I guess he will apologize for the oversight. It was an honest mistake, right?
My last post....
First off, appearing in front of an international audience of oncologists and showing that recaf is UNIQUE in that it ELIMINATES ALL false positives puts us in another league and there is no doubt this NEW information is what reignited interest and garnered new investors. That is why it is passified as nothing and he refuses to acknowledge the most important fact as to why Biocurex has a bright future. The nonmedical opinion of an anonymous poster is absurd to put it midly.
Second, if you look at the options proposed for management they are NOT FREE. They have to pay the same as anyone that got in on the IPO and there is no double dip, meaning no warrants attached. Another glossed over FACT. A vote of confidence by management that they know there is a bright future.
What happened to the pump? Everyone is asking. No matter what is in any press release it is a pump. Did Dr Moro slip up and forget to pump? What a joke. Someone is bidding up the warrants. Of course, no mention, because it may be mistakenly be taken in a positive light.
(I heard Paulson or was that Burger who was not happy with Dr Moro....oh yeah, that was from some anonymous poster that thinks they now can read minds and know what everybody involved with the IPO is thinking). Wow. Those comments just dwindle away at any miniscule amount of credibility. I guess the straws are getting smaller and smaller and they're getting harder to grasp.
Well just like that I am now limited to 2 posts a day. Defending the company must be a no no. Gold your comparison to the 2 other markers are not valid since neither have presented at any scientific meeting amongst their peers that in combination with current markers it can eliminate ALL false positives. People please hold gold to the fire on this extremely valid and critical point. He always conveniently never responds to this, because it makes his personal assumption that all markers are equal obsolete
Mata, why in the world would we want to continue owing Smithline a penny? If money is borrowed with the patents as collatoral why would you continue to hold this debt when you have raised money thru your shareholders debt free? Seems illogical. That is no different than someone holding your child hostage. Would you let them continue to hold your child when you have the money to pay them? Having Smithline in escrow or anywhere on the books is not preferable as far as I am concerned. If you had a life threatening illness and you had the proper dosage of medication would you just take some of it? It's time to cut loose of Smithline. JMHO
Anyone else curious about Smithline? We now have 6 million in the bank. Let's hurry up and trigger those warrants. 12 million in the bank would be sweet and a reverse split gets rid of dilution. Dr Moro hits the oncology conference trail and Dr Burger hits the investor conference trail. We update with a new Biocurex website. Then we get on a better stock exchange. Sounds like a plan.
Ehwest, ACTC.OB has submitted to the FDA for macular dystrophy and will be on track in the near future, possibly before GERN's well-publicized treament for spinal cord injury.
Here is a 1 minute video and is why I spread my bets because these stem cell companies are all at different stages and any of them can be a target by big pharma or take the forefront in regenerative medicine.
Bob my #1 is CYTX they are 5 years ahead of everyone and could be the ISRG of regenerative medicine. The company's PureGraft technology allows for a patient's own fat tissue to be prepared for aesthetically contouring re-injection after just fifteen minutes. My favorite.
#2 is GERN the leader and the 100 pound gorilla as far as embryonic stem cells. IMO the most potential. Had been on a tear till they postponed their spinal cord paralysis trial because they wanted to broaden the trial from thoracic to include cervical spinal cord injuies, will resume this summer.
#3 is BTIM they have developed the most lines of stem cell that IMO will be approved in the near future by the NIH, and could be the Google of stem cells. The CEO founded GERN and also cofounded ACTC and is considered the pioneer and most renowned in the stem cell field
#4 is CUR literally just performed the first stem cell trial for ALS or Lou Gehrig's disease this week. Ran up in anticipation of the study.
#5 is ACTC that has submitted to the FDA for the first treatment for blindness. Very similar situation as Biocurex with dilution and false starts, but hold tremendous patents IP.
#6 is OPXA up on their positive MS trial and are now have a deal with major pharma for 50 million upfront and up to another 500 million in royalties.
#7 is ISCO another stem cell company that has the IP rights to several new lines of stem cells
#8 is ATHX just did a deal with Pfizer for its multistem in the treatment of irritable bowel disease.
#9 is KOOL they sell the equipment to stem cell companies
#10 is NBS they ared in the pre-disease collection, processing and long-term storage of adult stem cells for the general population to use in future medical applications that is expanding in China for the commercialization of regenerative medicine and other stem cell applicatons.
#11 is SCLZ that utilizes state of the art technology to extract and concentrate your body's own regenerative cells to produce natural results. Clients are matched up with renowned physicians in their geographic region.
#12 is OSIR and has collaboration agreements with Genzyme Corporation for the development and commercialization of Prochymal and Chondrogen
#13 is STEM great IP and owns rights to many stem cell lines. My problem with STEM which I own for many years is they have been targeting obscure diseases. Their findings will however, be applicable to many other neurogenic disorders.
#14 is ASTM a complete diaster and cost me alot of money. They have lost the street's confidence and certainly mine. They are in phase 111 for heart disease.
#15 is PSTI engages in the research, development, and production of placental-derived adherent stromal cells. Israeli company that I like because they are not using embryonic stem cells which are the most controversial
Bob, there are others, but there you go. Best of luck.
Gold, now do you see why we are excited? Recaf is a multifunctional tool. How many products in any field have this much potential? I agree that Dr Moro is so secretive, even to the point he is so paranoid to have anything published. He commented on the importance of having approved patents BEFORE relinquishing any details on recaf. It is what it is. SLOOOOOOOOW and torturous.
Turtle we must be a nice distraction. I remember those days back in school. I still to this day have recurring dreams about going to class and the teacher throws a pop quiz and I haven't studied for it. The funniest thing that happened to me during school was I used to go over to the Law library to study because they stayed open all night and I lived in a fraternity in undergrad and in grad school and sometimes I had to get out of there to get serious with my studies. Well, one night I decided to drive over, and I ended up walking home after cramming for multiple exams (I graduated early so I was taking junior and senior year requirements together.....I don't suggest you try this). The next morning I woke up and went to get into my car and it wasn't there. I was freaking out and called the police. Well, the next night I walked back to the Law library and there was my car. I was like, what the f***? I completely forgot that I drove there.... that's how screwed up I was. My brain was overloaded with too much information it made me delirious. The only way out of this with my frat brothers without looking like a schmuck was to say my cousin took the car and forgot to ask me. The good news is I am writing you from my balcony overlooking the Atlantic ocean on one side and the intracoastal on the other. It did pay off.
By the way that response about Constab was about 4 to 5 years ago. I don't know if he feels differently today. In my eyes it is like AMD and Intel, or Yahoo and Google, or Boeing and Airbus. They are the competition. Unfortunately, this is corporate America and I am certain there are cures for most diseases if all the intellectual properties were shared. That is why I chose a Droid phone over the Iphone. I love all the free and innovative applications.
I am invested in just about every stem cell company that is publicly traded. From embryonic to adult to pluripotent stem cells. That IMO is the future, and these companies hold the patents and all of the IP. I recognize potential and I would rather be early to the party than miss the show. That is how I feel about Biocurex. I was way too early, but it doesn't mean it won't be festive.
"As for Constab, I communicated with Moro about them. He said he was much more advanced than they were and he did not want to share anything with them."
He said exactly the same thing to me. If they are equal partners as I suggest, and share in the profits and glory, it is a win-win. What a shame.
I had this thought a few years back when I first heard of Constab pharma. My suggestion to Dr Moro was to buy out or merge the companies since they are working on the same thing. He would be years ahead of where he is now in therapeutics and the technology would be of great interest to big pharma. Constab was on the right track, but it is Dr Moro that has the expanded knowledge and it is IMO safe to say the most knowledgeable doctor in regards to AFP. I like their concept of "oncoshuttle." That is an easy way to describe and understand the technology.
As far as getting the 510k here is what is required:
Device Classification
The 1976 Medical Device Amendments to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act created three categories of medical devices, based on the level of risk:
Class I: Generally, these are simple devices with minimal risk to the user. Almost all of these devices are exempt from FDA clearance or approval. Examples: enemas, crutches, elastic bandages, bedpans.
Class II: These devices pose a moderate level of risk to the user. Almost all of these devices require a regulatory submission before they can be legally marketed. As a rule, class II devices require 510(k) submissions. Examples: condoms, intravenous administration sets, sutures, inflatable blood pressure cuffs.
Class III: These devices pose a serious level of risk to the user, mostly because they are implants or sustain life. All of these devices require a regulatory submission before they can be legally marketed. As a rule, class III devices require a PMA (Premarket Approval) submission (described in further detail below). Examples: implantable pacemakers, blood vessel stents, breast implants.
Registration is required regardless of the classification. The method chosen depends on what the manufacturer wishes to claim and whether similar devices have been cleared or approved.
510(k) Clearance
The purpose of a 510(k) submission is to demonstrate that a device is “substantially equivalent” to a predicate device (one that has been cleared by the FDA or marketed before 1976) Let's say he uses HAAH. The 510(k) submitter compares and contrasts the subject and predicate devices, explaining why any differences between them should be acceptable. Human data are usually not required for a 510(k) submission; this decision is made at the discretion of the FDA. Laboratory testing is almost always a requirement. Depending on the type of 510(k), the law gives the FDA either 30 or 90 days to clear the device, ask questions, or reject the application.
Manufacturers may also submit a 510(k) if they alter their device. Not all changes require a 510(k) submission. In general, changes to a device’s intended use, contraindications, or basic operation require a new 510(k) clearance. Changes to blood-contacting materials, sterilization method, or performance specifications may also require a new 510(k).
The FDA does not “approve” 510(k) submissions. It “clears” them. It is not legal to advertise a 510(k) cleared device as “FDA-approved.” Those symantics got Dr Moro in a heap of trouble as most of recall and caused at least a year of setbacks, aggravation, and loss of market capitalization.
Premarket Approval (PMA)
A PMA submission is used to demonstrate to the FDA that a new or modified device is safe and effective. This standard is higher than is required for 510(k) submissions. Human use data from a formal clinical study is almost always required in addition to laboratory studies. The FDA is required to approve, question, or reject the application within 180 days. Changes to a PMA-approved device may require a PMA supplement or even a new PMA. Manufacturers have far less leeway in modifying PMA devices than they do for changes to 510(k) devices. PMA devices can be legally advertised as “PMA-approved” or “FDA-approved.”
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Gold, as far as launching dog recaf in February, we are approaching the last week in January. Would it have made sense to launch this PROPERLY without the resources to back it up? This is a new venture, and as such, it requires months of preparation and a fair amount of money. Without funds IN THE BANK there is no way he could launch. How would he pay his creditors? You don't put the cart before the horse. You can't start a business venture without having all your ducks in a row. Since he will be doing the marketing and testing, he may need to hire additional employees. Who is answering technical questions? What are the hours operation? Most vets are open 6-7 days a week. How are the samples arriving to Biocurex? How will doctors sell recaf to their clients? At what fee? What is the turnaround time? Does he need new software or newer computers? How about the reagants? Will he have pamphlets and signs to advertise Doggy recaf to distribute to the vet clinics? These are just a few things they have to work out.
Since Biocurex is in Vancouver it would be logical he starts out in Vancouver. It will be a "tell" as to the demand and how to properly launch recaf in other areas of Canada and finally the US. I am certain if the 10K comes out next quarter and dog recaf understandably has a slow start due to the fact we are entering new uncharted territory, Gold will prematurely declare victory. Of course, he also thinks a newborn should come out of the womb and win a triathlon.
Don't forget Dr Burger is overseeing the development of the POC test. IMO, Dr Moro will approach his partners and no longer wait for them to apply for the 510K. He has, and continues to lose valuable time with the patents the longer he relies on big pharma to run the trials. IMO, he will work something out with samples from Goshen or Bhlokin and run hisown trials and in a few months he will have FDA clearance and he will never look back.
Everyone is out of touch that is in disagreement with you. Now the entire audience at the ISOBM was out of touch with reality? No way did Dr Moro stand up and have the audacity to proclaim recaf as the miracle protein. That description was bestowed upon recaf by the chairman of the ISOBM, and he was, and has been quoted as such, because it is an endorsement. Isn't that the thing you have been harping about? What about Drs. Gold, Abelev, Sell, Burger, and Walsh? I guess they were strong-armed, too.
Gold, why did you fail to disclose that at the ISOBM the chairman of the international congress stood up in front of all of his peers and proclaimed recaf to be the "miracle protein." Those are not Dr Moro's words. He was not paid to say that. What higher endorsement would you like? How about Inverness ponying up a million after due diligence. Come on. Where's your moral compass. You deliberately poopoo these facts.
I would say that carries a little more weight than some obscure individual that likes to spend his time on a blog that has no value whatsoever. (Sounds familiar)
What will be of interest now that the IPO has been successful, is finding out where we stand with Smithline. That deal basically was the cause of much of the heartache longterm shareholders had to endure, but it also created an opportunity for newbies to take advantage of management's predicament. Needless to say I feel that having Dr Burger at the wheel was the turning point. Having his experience will make the difference. IMO, it won't be long before we get back into the groove of taking care of what really matters and we will see the launch of doggy recaf. Personally, I want smithline gone. Pay them off and erase their number from phone directory. They may have been accomodating toward management during the financial meltdown, but they were the cause for all the turmoil.
Now we have plenty of money and watch Inverness try and make a move to buy us just before the opening act. The dilution may be a form of a potent poison pill, so it is probably unlikely. I just would hate to have waited for 5 years and have such an anticlimactic ending.
I had a pleasant and unexpected result when I pleaded my case to irrevoke my limit of 1 post a day, so I am back in action and I will refrain from any personal attacks and stick to the issues.
First, the individual that Goldseeker is referring to is someone that started his own blog, so that alone gives you insight into his credibility. He does not charge anyone for his "personal opinion". He is a pathologist that has never attended one ISOBM meeting and has never directly seen recaf in action or heard about recaf because we have yet to get the 510k premarket approval(which I believe Dr Moro will no longer sit on his hands).
Now it is rather amuzing that Gold has changed gears and gone from "the IPO will never sell", and that Dr Moro is waiting for the press release about dog recaf to pump the IPO. Well, what did in fact happen was the ipo was OVERsubscribed giving everyone an indication about the real potential for recaf.
So now what else can someone that has invested so much time and energy in bashing the company say when the stars are aligned for Biocurex and its investors? "It will never sell." That will be his mantra because he has exhausted every reason for Biocurex to go belly up and it has not and will not happen.
I think Gold should remove the word pump from any future press releases since obviously Dr Moro did not take this opportunity during the IPO to issue the upcoming press release which we all know is inevitable.
Dr Burger has been a great addition and IMO he is the reason why the IPO went off better than expected. I would appreciate it if he continued to go to investor conferences as well as Dr Moro attending more scientific meetings. I have been saying it for years that Dr Moro's job should be focused on selling the medical community. I just hope he now takes this opportunity and runs with ball.
BK welcome and I have to say I am very impressed with you. You will make a wonderful doctor. The fact that you have both eyes open and have rallied around Biocurex and recaf, speaks volumes about the truth as to the perception of how useful recaf will become in medicine. Not only did you do your homework, but you put your money where your mouth is. Most of us that have been long refused to waiver in our convictions toward recaf, because we realized the potential while recaf was an experiment and Biocurex was just flying by the seat of its pants. Fast forward 5 years and you missed all drama that occurred during the financial meltdown that will provide me with enough stories for the rest of my life.
Like many that are here, we are here because we know that this WILL become a useful tool. No one is saying that it will be the only tool, but as you recently professed, it will make you and others a better doctor. Thanks for debunking the obvious. Hearing from a "young" doctor really made me feel proud that I am invested in Biocurex, and as such, have in a way contributed to the success of Biocurex.
Isn't it funny but disturbing, how Goldseeker is not a doctor, and compares recaf to other companies and markers that don't have a scientific board that include a who's who in the cancer marker and diagnostic field, a board of directors that include ex-CEO's of large biotech companies, licensing agrements with 2 pharmaceutical and diagnostic behemouths, have developed a rapid POC test, are branching out into Veterinary medicine, and you know he never talks about the FACT that recaf eliminates ALL false positives with current markers.
My favorite comment by BK: " Again, as is the theme here, to insinuate that doctors do not want the ability to know of an ongoing oncogenic process simply because symptoms have not yet presented is sacrilege to the covenant between a doctor and patient. As with many diseases, by the time symptoms present, it might be too late."
Goldseeker, after today and the "official" close of the IPO which IMO was pre-soldout what's next on the list of scare tactics. Where was the "pump" to sell the IPO? No comment, right?
Bk came out of left field and I bet you cool down till the press release from Dr Moro. Then the cycle about how no vet will ever buy recaf will re-emerge. Gold, give the readers here a little more credit for have the ability to see thru all the misleading information and babble. Well, that's my 1 post a day. Good luck.
I am adding to this post, because I just read a comment by Goldseeker that again proves he is missing the point on the true value of recaf. Here is another comment that makes no sense as usual, "Cancers in milk ducts are rarely if ever a problem yet today." Rarely if ever a problem......is that what you would say to the husband or child after they watch their mother spouse suffer because you like to play the odds. That is why you are not, thank goodness, a doctor.
A few quotes from goldseeker that he will be regretting:
"One day, you will regret not listening to me. Instead, you apparently prefer to not hear the real facts about the product."
"I have simply read enough to understand that RECAF will not be a successful product."
"Any screening with RECAF will only make the following situation worse. READ MY LIPS. The FDA will NEVER approve RECAF for screening."
"The problem with RECAF is that you either have to believe Moro and ignore every one else or you ignore what Moro says about RECAF and everything becomes crystal clear that RECAF will never amount to anything much at all."
"It has always the priority of this company to pump and sell stock."
"IMO, something happened over the weekend that is NOT good."
"What may not be true is that the offering is approved by the SEC"
Do you see how wrong you have been. Call Paulson and see how the IPO is going. I DARE YOU!
READ MY LIPS!!! We have 6 million in the bank! Also, where WAS the pump to sell the IPO!!!!! It will come AFTER the IPO closes which means it was NOT A PUMP, RIGHT!!!! At least you are consistent.....yeah, consistently WRONG
We just got a 2 for 1. AGAIN goldseeker is WRONG! (but still will never admit defeat). We now will have 6 million in the bank and Smithline is a memory or at least insignificant. IMO, once we close the IPO Jan 22, which is this Friday, we will hear from management on all of the things they had spoken of at the investors' conference. In the past when I had witnessed similar IPO's, I read they are in a blackout period which keeps management from speaking to their shareholders. IMO, that is the cause of the deafening silence. I bet that that will no longer be the case when they are free to run the company without any further restraints.
I am certain that Dr Burger would NEVER jeopardize his reputation after decades of solid performance. He is a winner and has contacts ALL OVER THE WORLD. This is an important fact.
I was guessing that the drop in the share price was due to the IPO, which is customary, but the delayed press release threw me. IMO, those that continue to believe in recaf will finally see the payoff, and the concern over dilution could easily be rectified with a reverse stock split which IMO was the plan all along which will allow us to finally get on a better stock exchange and Dr Burger would then present at invsetors conferences for the big boys like JP Morgan, Rodman, and others. Meanwhile, Dr Moro could be presenting at more scientific meetings.
6 million in the bank is a game changer. Goldseeker, you claim to own no shares, but will never cease to amaze everyone with your false prophecies and end of days scenarios, never admitting defeat.
You say you like to read, well, do your homework on the history of most biotech companies and a majority of esrly biotechs all had to endure what BOCX's shareholders and management had to endure. Those thst passed the muster have risen from the ashes and became behemouths. Just recently HGSI and DNDN. For years you certainly remember me saying I feel we need an experienced biotech executive to lead this company. We have one and I could not be happier. He has been down these waters and knows how to get things done in order to become successful. Look at how many new investors are believers in the technology. The removal of all false positives when combining recaf with current markers is the Holy Grail. You can never deny that! My patience will be rewarded. Now I just have to wait till the IPO closes and await the first of many very positive press releases. Good luck to all longs.