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Realistically, yeah
The trial is scheduled for November 2018, so any settlement/judgement could take that long, or longer if delayed.
Any settlement/judgement is of course not guaranteed.
Just fyi, GLTY!
long UOIP
No offense taken
I'm not waiting for $50, actually that had an error in Charter's net income, i revised it to $16.
I understand a judge will take other things into consideration here, if the defendants end up with a judgement against them.
Even a settlement over 1 Billion would be groundbreaking...
Potential is large though...
long UOIP
Best case scenario, updated:
Charter Net Income updated...
***DISCLAIMER***
-THESE ARE REALLY BROAD ASSUMPTIONS AND MANY ARE LIKELY WRONG OR UNREALISTIC
-DO NOT TAKE THIS AS INVESTMENT ADVICE
-THEORETICALLY SPEAKING ONLY
-I own shares in UOIP and admit I am a biased party
-Feel free to point out anything i missed
Assuming:
-Patent good for 20 years from filing date (2000)
-Wilful infringement starts 2012, ends 2020 (8 years)
-3% royalty
-3x treble charges
-Net Income of defendants is 35.5B (assumptions below)
Damages = 35.5 x 3% x 3 x 8 years = $25.56B
Price per share
$25.56B / 1.6B shares = $15.97 / share
Net Income:
Atlantic Broadband Group, LLC (Subsidiary of Cogeco, MC: 1B, Net Income: 0.2B?)
Bright House Networks, LLC (Acquired by Charter 10B, excluded from total)
Cable One Inc (2017 Net Income: 0.3B)
Cablevision Systems Corporation (Acquired by Altice 18B, 2017 Net Income: 2B?)
Cequel Communications, LLC (2017 Net Income: 0.1B)
Charter Communications, Inc (2017 Net Income: 9B)
Comcast Corporation (2017 Net Income: 22B)
Cox Communications, Inc (2016 Rev: 3B, Net Income 0.5B?)
Mediacom Communications Corporation (2017 Op Income: ~0.4B)
RCN Telecom Services, LLC (0.5B?)
Time Warner Cable Inc (Acquired by Charter 80B, excluded from total)
WaveDivision Holdings, LLC (For sale: ~2B, Net Income: ~0.4B?)
WideOpen West Finance, LLC (2017 Net income: 0.1B)
**Assuming Cisco didn't infringe and only liable to the cable companies
Total Estimate - 2017: 0.2 + 0.3 + 2 + 0.1 + 41 + 23 + 0.5 + 0.4 + 0.5 + 0.4 + 0.1 = 35.5
Pacer Links:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426386/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Atlantic_Broadband_Group,_LLC
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426387/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Bright_House_Networks,_LLC
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426388/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Cable_One_Inc
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426389/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Cablevision_Systems_Corporation_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426390/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Cequel_Communications,_LLC_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426391/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Charter_Communications,_Inc
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426392/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Comcast_Corporation_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426393/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Cox_Communications,_Inc_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426394/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Mediacom_Communications_Corporation
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426395/ChanBond,_LLC_v_RCN_Telecom_Services,_LLC
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426396/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Time_Warner_Cable_Inc_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426397/ChanBond,_LLC_v_WaveDivision_Holdings,_LLC
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426398/ChanBond,_LLC_v_WideOpen_West_Finance,_LLC
Patents:
http://www.channelbondingvideo.com/Technology.html
-918: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7346918B2
-822: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7941822B2
-679: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8341679
-565: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8984565B2
-774: https://patents.google.com/patent/US9015774B2
Continuances:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130266050A1
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140150038A1
fair enough.. curious what you think damages could come to..
long UOIP
Best case scenario, updated:
***DISCLAIMER***
-THESE ARE REALLY BROAD ASSUMPTIONS AND MANY ARE LIKELY WRONG OR UNREALISTIC
-DO NOT TAKE THIS AS INVESTMENT ADVICE
-THEORETICALLY SPEAKING ONLY
-I own shares in UOIP and admit I am a biased party
-Feel free to point out anything i missed
Assuming:
-Patent good for 20 years from filing date (2000)
-Wilful infringement starts 2012, ends 2020 (8 years)
-3% royalty
-3x treble charges
-Net Income of defendants is 68.5B (assumptions below)
Damages = 68.5 x 3% x 3 x 8 years = $79.5B
Price per share
$79.5B / 1.6B shares = $49.6875 / share
Net Income:
Atlantic Broadband Group, LLC (Subsidiary of Cogeco, MC: 1B, Net Income: 0.2B?)
Bright House Networks, LLC (Acquired by Charter 10B, excluded from total)
Cable One Inc (2017 Net Income: 0.3B)
Cablevision Systems Corporation (Acquired by Altice 18B, 2017 Net Income: 2B?)
Cequel Communications, LLC (2017 Net Income: 0.1B)
Charter Communications, Inc (2017 Net Income: 41B)
Comcast Corporation (2017 Net Income: 23B)
Cox Communications, Inc (2016 Rev: 3B, Net Income 0.5B?)
Mediacom Communications Corporation (2017 Op Income: ~0.4B)
RCN Telecom Services, LLC (0.5B?)
Time Warner Cable Inc (Acquired by Charter 80B, excluded from total)
WaveDivision Holdings, LLC (For sale: ~2B, Net Income: ~0.4B?)
WideOpen West Finance, LLC (2017 Net income: 0.1B)
**Assuming Cisco didn't infringe and only liable to the cable companies
Total Estimate - 2017: 0.2 + 0.3 + 2 + 0.1 + 41 + 23 + 0.5 + 0.4 + 0.5 + 0.4 + 0.1 = 68.5
Pacer Links:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426386/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Atlantic_Broadband_Group,_LLC
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426387/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Bright_House_Networks,_LLC
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426388/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Cable_One_Inc
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426389/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Cablevision_Systems_Corporation_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426390/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Cequel_Communications,_LLC_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426391/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Charter_Communications,_Inc
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426392/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Comcast_Corporation_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426393/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Cox_Communications,_Inc_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426394/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Mediacom_Communications_Corporation
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426395/ChanBond,_LLC_v_RCN_Telecom_Services,_LLC
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426396/ChanBond,_LLC_v_Time_Warner_Cable_Inc_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426397/ChanBond,_LLC_v_WaveDivision_Holdings,_LLC
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/9426398/ChanBond,_LLC_v_WideOpen_West_Finance,_LLC
Patents:
http://www.channelbondingvideo.com/Technology.html
-918: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7346918B2
-822: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7941822B2
-679: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8341679
-565: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8984565B2
-774: https://patents.google.com/patent/US9015774B2
Continuances:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130266050A1
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140150038A1
lol, can you imagine? $6 a share? :D
This stock seems like an outlier to me.. you never know!
GL!
long UOIP
haha thanks for that :P
on more radars? https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=140117979
long ADTM
$6.30 PPS possible? Check post 30056
probably a bit optimistic but the possibilities are rather large...
long UOIP
I like this trend...
long UOIP
It would be an exchange of each share of UOIP for X # of shares of XYZ Company, and/or $Y of cash
GLTY!
Long UOIP
ico by June
Long ADTM
Good on ya, Ram!
Keep the great posts coming
I’ll watch for drafts and contribute any way I can. Quite the story here
Long UOIP
Our lawyer:
Wow - Seeking Alpha author on UOIP has ~6,000 followers.
https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/3646631-anthony-cataldo/5145249-1000-percent-returns-anticipated-investors-holding-unifiedonline-inc-stock
Long UOIP
looks to be trending up over last few months
long UOIP
I would really like to see that transcript
Long UOIP
Deposition of Comcast SVP - April 10, 2018 at 11:00 a.m.
ASKH
Big article!!!
Long tglo
31m float - $ANCE - 10K due soon
Not from OTC, from this post - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=139460569
Long ance
Where did the 30M float number come from? It's not on OTC
TIA
Long ance
still watching this
long $ANCE
T - 7 months...
long uoip
wow - explosive
long ance
Good news all around here - looking for an uptrend to start given dilution is likely (or close to) done, many shares closely held by Carter, trial ramping up in next few months.
long UOIP
COSLF - it also happens to be a company with huge growth prospects - they are a low-cost producer of carbon-capture technology
Cross listed on OTC:COSLF and TSXV:CST
long $CST $COSLF
Lowest cost carbon-capture technology (Patented)
Company website
https://www.co2solutions.com/en
Company cross-listed on OTC:COSLF
long $CST $COSLF
Lowest cost carbon-capture technology (Patented)
Company website
https://www.co2solutions.com/en
Company cross-listed on TSXV:CST - More discussion on CST Board:
https://ih.advfn.com/stock-market/TSXV/CST/stock-price
long $CST $COSLF
HECK. YES.
long $uoip
wow - 100k traded here today, officially on people's radar.
Great day!
long cype
#5 on breakout board, green day tomorrow IMO
long $CYPE
that would be nice
long $cype!
thanks for the sarcasm, Navin (see what I did there?)
took a flyer at 3.6, curious to see how this all ends up.
JBZY's been good to me so far.
long $JBZY
hahah, well played :)
converted shares go to Wang, in exchange for their par value, which is almost zero ($~0.00001)
been here since last February, just skeptical with what I've seen. The potential for dilution is huge and management isn't forthcoming...
might still take a flyer, not sure...
no position here
lol, i got a measly 200% return on most of it... Back in now though!
long $cype