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I dont think the majority of folks here are "so naive", or fail to see why you are so smug. As outlined the company has made great strides in accomplishing company re-organization, and diversifying into vertical subsciption based financial models.
Its clear to see from the prs this component of the company is going to be doubling and tripling over the coming months and years. With some operations posting profit margins as high as 50% it is only a matter of time before a healthy cash flow will have an impact on company near term goals.
As the companies high profit margin business seems to be the most rapid expansion of all company operations in terms of new revenue growth, I kinda like my take on it that success is just a matter of biding my time and quietly accumulating.
In the meantime,its my way of thinking that the company could do a lot worse than quiety remove a lot of shares off the market while so cheap.
In pinkyland its all a crap shoot, but Im gonna sit in on this one for a while yet.
Fire acting coach? No.
Bell Buckle Store going fine. Bell Buckle Holdings (ie - investor holdings not so good).
http://www.bellBuckleHoldings.com
While I cant be sure Bell Buckle store seems to have "dropped" a few brand names?
Bell Buckle Store is now bllb headquarters - in other words the company headquarters is a broom closet in back of the country store. New CFO address and number same as store - no Simmons name anywhere.
Perhaps Bell Buckle was sold and someone forgot to tell us about it? No idea whats going on. Need someone to drive to country store and corner CFO, who might double as the store clerk.
Bell Buckle Holding website is down, kaput, dead. Bell Buckle store is same phone number as chief finance officer. No simmons on company officer list.
No one even answers phone. If you live in TEnnesse get ahold of your Senator. Perhaps he can help find out what is happening. I have exhausted what I can do from my computer here in the frozen north...
P.
Good luck is all I can say. The pps should be way up now with the show only days away. After that its a long way till production if it ever happens.
The fact that Doug is in discussion with several majors contradicts rvgds monopoly on engine production, and appear Doug is also handling installation centers? This should be Peters job or rvgd's responsibility....
Doug said no gov. assistance. His plans/relationship have to be re-examined, and have probly been changed already. He cannot comment on this, but why not ask Peter and find out...
Be great for pps if rvgd announces installation centers, but it appears H2 is now handling this....
Good luck.
Read the SEC complaints. Peter used Carnes and the other company like an ATM machine for a period of several months. Carnes immediately sent shares to market. He denied selling stock into the market when asked, but neglected to tell anyone he was selling to Carnes et al.
He knew exactly what was happening because of irate investors phoning and asking what was going on.
DTC global lock....what will happen?? Check out bcit. Going on four years now, or is it five?
Glad I took my profit long time ago. Good luck to all longs. The show is upon you in a few days, hope you can sell into a run IF there is one.
Wishing you the best, but glad im not in this one anymore. Hope 2010 good for everyone.
P.
Mr. stocks... I forgot to thank you for that information...even though it bummed me out some. Now Im mad though. If the company has been sold and Simmons family now retired and fat and happy with our money can we sue them?
Someone call the new pres and find out who owns this company anymore. Does the new pres. even know they have shareholders?
Was wondering that myself as I looked at it.
It appears company ownership may have changed hands, and someone convieniently forgot to tell us?
Dont know....
This truly sucks, and evidently someone needs to phone and find out who owns this company anymore...
P.
I'd rather my money go into my own biz than their pocket!
http://warhammer1.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/hello-world/?preview=true&preview_id=1&preview_nonce=5089f90167
Hi. Its certainly good to know you are holding for a long time with that amount of shares.
Im trying to free up some cash right now for my "little" business venture, but have plans to drop a little more in the sshs stock.
I need to average down some.
Havent been posting here much but follow along every few days, and have expanded my time line to hold. Had many a pinkie wipe me out of the total investment, thousands of $$ turning into pennies.
Strangely enough I feel pretty comfortable here. Not worried all that much with all the good things happening with the company.
Patience is all thats needed, and think I have enough of that for the time being.
As it goes up I'll be thinking of all those millions you have and what each uptick means. Good luck to you and good trading!
Hope 2010 is good to all who invest here.
P.
Drop by my blog every now and then. Am getting a little industry interest and progress!
I suggest someone register at the second link and start a Bell Buckle Holdings Company Investor Blog.
Run properly we can then ask the Simmons family to answer some straightforward questions, and post what our findings have uncovered.
The company has made claims of what we invested in but tax records still shows these holdings to be in family name and not the holding company?
Have they bought or sold shares?
etc. etc.
We have an opportunity to use public perception in their own community. From all accounts they are community minded, or are they? Are there people in town who have invested in the company or just us?
Our options seem limited so why not use what available means to get the information we are entitled to? We can also use the Bell Buckle newspaper or Shelbyville newspaper to run an open letter or series of questions for the Simmons family as an escalation if no results are obtained.
BLLB in for surprise methinks. No news in two years, company wont address investors. So I posted on the Bell Buckle community happenings asking for help with info on company LOL.
http://www.americantowns.com/tn/bellbuckle/news/bell-buckle-holdings-bllb-244202
Maybe now we might get some news? Simmons family involved in both community happenings and city biz, but no time for folks who helped make them succesful?
Pennimon not one to lie down quietly...
It worked, now on net (for how long I dont know.)
http://www.americantowns.com/tn/bellbuckle/news/bell-buckle-holdings-bllb-244202
Lets start an online org to find out what we need to know:
http://www.americantowns.com/about/list.html
this is too rich! too simple?
Simmons family in for a surprise perhaps. Just registered with town of bell buckle community announcements, and local newspaper for a press release. Dont have a lot of money but shelbyville classifieds might be next. Perhaps someone else take the next step?
Dont know if it will make it but I had to try....here is message I sent:
"Investors of Bell Buckle Store and associated company have not had any news in two years since the company raised money for expansion. Recently the company has let filings lapse.
In concern investors have asked SEC to investigate the matter, and look into company to see what is happening, letters have been written to Governor General.
Has the Simmons family ceased company operations or filed bankruptsy? We are just a group of investors wondering what happened to company and money we invested.
Please post any information ANYONE might have concerning company operations to the Investors Hub message board. It surely would be appreciated.
Thanking you in advance, perhaps if the company is still in operation, an employee would be kind enough to let us know.
"Pennimon"
Investors Hub BLLB message board. Thanx."
I like the coin I pocketed after a lonnnngggg wait. Why turn a good trade into a bad. If I dont feel good about a stock I dont invest is all.
I might have bought again as previously posted the othe day, but one of the board biggest pumps pm'd me to hold on after talking with Doug for a half hour.
That was enough for me to put a permant chill on this one. Private company test track indeed. 175 acres. New plant as opposed to existing.
Hope Pete comes through for you all here. I just cant use hope as a good enough reason to repurchase. too much history with this stock already.
GLTA - P.
"Well, the guys need money for the Auto Show and that was probably the only way the company could pay for it. So What! We will sell many many more shares to make up for it after the Auto Show which is less than 2 weeks away GOOOOOOOOO RVGD!!!!!!!!!
- So you have no problem with dilution both BEFORE AND AFTER???
So what??? HOly crap Batman.
On second thought I'll pass on repurchase for now. No money for a freakin auto show. Beat me up again? no thanx. Honestly looking at the Dupont registry I am reminded of American Motors.
The nice thing about the auto show is that the car must be pushed in, and must be pushed out again. Everyone will have seen it and "the latter half of 2010" is a very long time for this particular stock.
Remember this is Peter and has a bad habit or two. One of those would be deceit, and selling folks down the river. One day Doug will have had enough. NO money for car show means no money for he franchise stuff either. Why should Doug have to babysit the franchise biz while Peter is out there with hat in hand?
If he's handling contacts for the franchises, means he's just one step closer to pulling the rvgd plug. You might get a few motors but the franchise was the potential money maker. The car(s) nothing but a drain on resources and a huge debt that must be fed. How are those monthly loan payments coming? with all the products rvgd is selling, no prob right?
If Doug and Pistols Petes (rvgd)relationship(contract/agreement) is based on performance, then I'd have to say you are in deep doo - doo. Watch for Pelmear to drop rvgd and have someone with more than a can of alpo and two cents to rub together help with the franchise situation...thats if he hasnt already.
if no funding comes through, petes gonna start giving shareholders the hungry eye again. You wont know till too late.
Good luck here. The "hope" factor is just too much here.If theres one good pump left I am happy for you all. Right now this pps sounds a lot like Meawwwwww! A dead cat bounce for a dog of a stock.
P.
That sounds pretty sweet to me!
may be similar to my bcit stock.
I feel for ya yound Jedi. Such is life and its many disapointments. Been there myself a time or two. Maybe more than that actually...LOL.
Hope this new year sees everyone happy and healthy. I made a new entry on my blog today that might help you get your priorities straight for the future. Perhaps you would do well to read it especially the last paragraphs.
Make ya feel better about the whole shebang.
L.
http://warhammer1.wordpress.com/2009/12/
Looks almost like time for Pen to jump back in again as .0006 has been touched as predicted sometime ago. But then again my timing is always a bit off...
.0006 would allow me to double original positon. Should be good for one last pump?
GLTA - P.
Geez Barbarian, thats some serious accumulation. Hell I have only 150K shares LOL.
My trading activities help finance my full time hobby as an innovator, and hoping sshs will help finance a my 'crossbow" venture. I plan to offer "ballista performance enhancements" for crossbows essentially a bolt on kit that converts a limb powered crossbow to torsion in-swinging design.
The "broke" inventor thing is true (at least in my case anyway). If and when sshs breaks out - hopefully January or Feb. I will have enough $$ to work on the other crossbow brands.
dont know if you hunting or target shoot, but heres a link to my blog you may find interesting.
http://warhammer1.wordpress.com/2009/12/22/basic-inswinger-string-lever-opt-data/
Anyhow, heres to hoping for sshs success in the new year!
L.
Thats the distinction I failed to make before purchasing this stock, who the big players here are (control pps). In effect its like trying to beat the MM's. Cant be done.
Smilin holds a nice core position dont know how much, but has reported a 2M flip one day so it must be considerable. Barbarian is a multi million share holder as well, and there must be a few others on this board who collectively control at least 20% of float.
Both he and Liable make a good team and one thats hard to beat, for us little guyz. Right now the only chance is if a catylyst was introduced that caused pps to continue upward movement so once they flipped trading shares they would have to chase.
The belief promoted here is that with any gain this Ribotsky would dump into it. While that may well be true, Ribotsky is not the one to worry about right now.
We can only hope Smilin makes so much damn money he doesnt need anymore and goes away. Smilin would be quickly replaced by another perhaps traderdon. It doesnt matter much right now.If it isnt smilin selling it would be someone else who's tired of this flippin crap and looking for an exit after taking profit.
The good thing is, sshs getting a little lovin here and there on a few new boards. If ya get folks like Mrs Smith who if takes a fancy will buy 5-10M at a whack. You dont need a whole lot of them to take care of float.
Key to my success here is patience, and not being too greedy. Theres always someone else with a finger on the trigger...
Since Im not planning on selling till after new year sometime, whatever happens with pps between now and then dont have much effect on my plans.
Boardmarks are needed. Many many little investors to soak up the milions of shares these big boys flip away. If a nice momo group wades in here each soaking up millions of shares it would be the proverbial "to da moon!" stuff and where I look for an exit myself.
bllb -You are a buy and hold investor,and we could use you on the sshs board. Under 100M float. Large flippers keeping pps in toilet. approx. 35-40M revs. Why not pick up 10M for a 3-6 month hold...
gonzilee: No need to "chill out" as its just a few come here LOL.
If you scroll down the posts I left the board largely abandoned for about a year!
Aside from that we were only making fun of ourselves for screwing up, and now having to pay the price. Wouldnt be so bad if we werent outta bullets and could load up at these basement prices.
I think that over the next week the situation will improve greatly and in a month or less we'll be the green despite our poor entry technique!
I fully expect to walk away from this one a happy camper with a multi-bagger in a very short while.
It will take only one or two boards to jump on this one considering the share structure, revenues, and current pps. Bidwhacking/flipping by current board players will slow shortly as shares dry up even more.
JMHO -P.
Why I will load sshs as I can, although Im down due to a piss poor entry strategy (attempt to ride a momo that dried up quick).
sshs.Just over the past two months they appear to have increased revenues by about a third. Based on 2005 financials and the number of employee's back then 19M from what I can remember from the read.
They now have increased the number of employees implying an even larger revenue and adjusting for inflation I had guessed the annual income about 27M - 30M or thereabouts.
Over the past two months sshs has increased rev.s by a min. of 7.5M according to recent pr's. My estimates are that sshs should be approaching 40M annually. According to recent pr read the new subscription based services (vid monitering, background and credit checks etc)carry a profit margin in excess of 30 percent.
Rumour has it financials MAY be voluntarily released January. The pr's seem to indicate the company wants a much higher higher pps.
sshs flying under the radar for now but as the pps seeks a truer valuation I expect that to change rapidly(and make some nice coin).
GLTA - P.
PS - dont worry too much about it flying under radar. One MOMO starts actively promoting this thing, board marks will double(not hard considering current following).
sshs.Just over the past two months they appear to have increased revenues by about a third. Based on 2005 financials and the number of employee's back then 19M from what I can remember from the read.
They now have increased the number of employees implying an even larger revenue and adjusting for inflation I had guessed the annual income about 27M - 30M or thereabouts.
Over the past two months sshs has increased rev.s by a min. of 7.5M according to recent pr's. My estimates are that sshs should be approaching 40M annually. According to recent pr read the new subscription based services (vid monitering, background and credit checks etc)carry a profit margin in excess of 30 percent.
Rumour has it financials MAY be voluntarily released January. The pr's seem to indicate the company wants a much higher higher pps.
sshs flying under the radar for now but as the pps seeks a truer valuation I expect that to change rapidly.
GLTA - P.
Fat chance of that. Aside from having possible dilution here and there from a convertible CD, we have a group of what I consider large stakeholders that will build and hold a LARGE core position in the millions while also having a large portion of "flipping" stock.
If no dilution occurs on a run up like today, you can bet your boots the run will be killed off from profit taking. Sure sucks for little guys like me, but hey nobody asked me to dive in the water with the sharks LOL.
So far Smilin B seems to be the kings of flips here, but imagine he's in competition to see who sells first. Consequently I cant see this moving up anytime soon unless the MMs perform their magic.
Although I hate it, I cant blame Smilin B one little iota. The name of the game here is making money, and so far from what I can tell, he's one of few here being successful. Sucks for sure, but ya gotta admire the heavy coin he making doing it.
At least he's 100% honest about it as I really hate those that post to da moon while they cannot hit the sell button fast enough.
Im outta bullets or I'd be doing the exact same thing as he is, and would be just a question of who hits the sell button first.
I sure walked into this one, but no one to blame but myself. Greed or fear, I dont know which is worse...
My only hope is that the pps moves up bit by bit despite the flipping going on, and hopefully a nice 300 to 500 percent pop will occur from a .005 pps support level. Entirely doable so Im not that worried, just tying up money for a while is all.
P.
Crap. I am stuck in sshs for a good while methinks. I took a nice profit from rvgd and turned it into crap - again.LOL.
I continued to purchase sshs instead of diversifying at that time into SGCP which although one of my fav. did NOT do. ARGHHH!!
I left my trading system, tried to jump on a momobandwagon with a low floater (which I usually avoid like the plague).
I did everything 100% wrong and now have to pay the price, namely waiting for huge buying interest and catalyst. Might be a week month or year.
Some good did come out my trading tho. I took some profits and re-roofed both front and back porches, and probly the only smart thing I've done over the past month and a half haha.
Right now, sshs is a flippers paradise, but unfortunately I also suck at the quick flip. I do better with longer term holds because I generally buy too high and sell to low. One has to wonder how I make a profit, but here I am after 15 years of it.
thanx to all for posting your picks here and please dont stop, nice to see some different posts here other than my own!
P.
Hey Biz, the ride so far aint been that great. Why call your niece stupid for taking those shares off your hands for .0002 as you posted? I like your posts and find them amusing. Reminds me of a bi-polar ex-wife I once had. LOL.
You may post here but its not your board. Just that no one else wanted the position anymore. I quit as assistant mod some time ago. I got tired of seeing all the foul language and postings from you and others. When I tried to clean up the board deleting spam and foul postings people whined about it.
I actually own stock(stuckholder) while you state you sold it off a long time ago...
Please by all means continue whatever it is you think your doing here.
Biz, you have promised on several occasions to stop posting and move on. We all know the story of how you sold off your shares to your daughter or relative, then capitulate and post you are considering buying more....
Not many boards where the moderator also is the assistant mod. LOL.
wow. Have only been in this about a month or less, but company has announced about 40 million in revs since then. Granted the OS has doubled but so has the revs. Thats awesome.
Be nice to see that stop sign disapear from pinksheets, and a little more buying action wouldnt hurt us none LOL.
Things that make ya go hmmmmmmm....
P.
Jedi - watching and waiting. that and having fun today on sshs board.
Even usse with 2.5B shares and NO business and NO NEWS for a year or two has a higher pps. How could rvgd pps not go up?
HOpe it goes up up and away for all longs. You have just collected your first million dollar debt, and MUCH MUCH more to go.
Glad folks have a chance to get some of their money back, and glad flippers come in and help with volume.
Go rvgd Hell, I'll even wish Pistol Pete good luck. Hope you catch on that smart money shows up, makes coin, and then disapears and on to next stock.
Not good to marry a stock. Divorce/separation is often expensive.
Anyhow young Jedi, may the Force be with you next week.
why? nice combo of dilution and a little pps manipulation here and there. When buying slows down a little they will walk it back down with a bunch of small sells. Perhaps a little EOD painting as well.
I ran outta bullets and couldnt get any below .005 so I will have to wait a little to collect my profits. My timing truly sucks but somehow I still manage to collect a little profit here and there.
LOL.
Despite all the information and misinformation being posted I still think this one should be in the pennies.
By the time the X prize contest is over the Pelmear engine may be yesterdays news. Someone is alway building/developing a better mousetrap.
None the less I wish everyone here good luck with their investment here, its a stock and company with potential but dont believe that Collorafi should be heading it up.
LOL. ONe does not need to be a car expert here. Only a need to correctly interpret Peters prs. Between the last pr and this one somehow the first licenced installation centre morphed into management housing and a training facility.
Pr should have read Collorafi dodges bullet - again. The Ohio building is to be leased not bought,and this made possible by the private investor (possibly Jeff from Poet??)
Without that the supercar would not appear at the show. This is one car. One single private placement. Perhaps thats all he needs.
I dont know how the buy and sells today are working out. Lets see that new high come today...or tomorrow?
Smart money comes in, takes a profit, - and on to the next.
It would be cool if a car magazine gets to see this one actuall run, maybe take this one for a test drive and review. I still say to get any money from goverment Collorafi will have to step down as CEO, and rvgd needs a partner.
Post some info links on them. DD good or bad should always be welcome. I have been waiting for you to post good DD, I mostly just hear accusations/insinuations. Put some teeth behind your postings then.
LOL! I hear ya! - Ouch
I'll chip in to buy you a nice costume with a fancy cape. Everyboard should have a superhero.
Divvy shares are very seldom freetrading but restricted for a period of time. Seeing as some dilution is ocurring anyway, a few extra free shares in my account that would sit there for some time wouldnt hurt my feelings any.
If you simplify trading its just a matter of guessing if the price goes up or down over a certain time period. YOu know what? Eventually it does...dilution or any other stuff is rendered a mute point LOL.
Im betting that within a few weeks to a few months I can sell my shares for more than I bought them for. Thats it.
Have you ever read DAle Carnagies "how to make friends and influence people"? Give it a try.LOL
Not the only way. A simple shareholder divy announcement would end this BS pretty quick.
Perhaps so but the pr's point to rapid expansion of revenues in monthly billings by responding to the needs of existing clients and expanding the range of services offered.
The new video facilty expansion makes way to increase live monitoring by a factor of 10. They now offer services meeting Homeland Security criteria, protecting vital infrastructure. Residential monitering offers a whole new market to penetrate.
Things could look a lot worse for stinky pink. The current share structure in not bad considering revenues. A little time and patience is all that is needed.
The marketcap is ridiculously low while revenue potential and contracts continually increase. I think we will see some nice pps moves over the coming weeks.
JMHO - P.
bblack1 thanks for that article! love the last paragraph:
“We’ve set our sights on a little bit different protocol … A lot of integration companies were really sucking wind last year because of the economy. We’re looking for subscription-based businesses, because they seem to thrive through it all,” Lagow said. “We’re putting our strength into what returns the most for our shareholders. Monitoring is that, background investigations is that, security staffing is that, patrol services is that. Your one-time sale for integration is not … We want Mr. Monthly Payment.”
- Looking forward to financials and website updates...
"scam or not pinky's go ip and down on fear & greed"
That is a belief I also hold. Current examples sstp/usse. Folks making money with these POS stocks...
We actually have a real and successful company whose main biz is NOT selling shares, and with rapidly expanding revenues.