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"Any thing else you are not telling the truth about?"
The board should be asking this question of you! You've even invented a quote that I supposively said. The one about Me saying the Lebed interview never happened!
You are flagrantly non - credible! THOU HYPOCRITE!
Some people have a lot of nerve
Opportunity - I really appreciate you and your posts. I can only hope that you visit us again at a later date. I imagine that when the true value of the technology begins to come to light for the rest of the world to appreciate you'll revisit us for a long awaited celebration, and hopefully these cynics / skeptic would have long been gone!
I know that as soon as this recaf product become available, I will be one of the first in line, as would GS, Reverse and most other men. Maybe that is why they continue to moniter this board, because behind their supposed doubt, their is a whole lot of hope that this technology, in the end, could extend their life and prevent a slow painful death!
Again Oportunity, I just want to thank you for posting your conversation with management and validating our belief in what's coming ahead.
Damn, Reverse have you had one good thing to say about Biocurex since you've been here. There is something very dysfunctional about that! Why do you even read this board? Out of all the positives, I don't recall you ever having one good thing to say about the company. What is your deal? You are a big joke!!!
When this thing explodes, my guess is you'll disappear into oblivion!
I know exactly what I am saying. Did you calculate potential revenues from, diagnostics, imaging and therapuetics? Did you consider that recaf could be used to screen for multiple cancers? Do you realize what the size of the cancer market truly is? Did you also factor in that Biocurex won't have to spend money of their own to develop these products? Remember, in my interview Dr. Moro said he wants to keep therapuetics in house. I imagine their would be a huge demand for an effective product using the recaf technology for therapy. Since virtually every type of cancer has the recaf receptor located on the malignant cell, it is conceivable that ALL of the cancer cells could be destroyed doing very little damage to the normal cells. Look at how inefficient radiation treatment is comparatively, killing a huge # of normal cells, while killing only a few cancerous ones. How big do you think that market is? Granted, it might take ten years from now to develope, but remember, we are talking best case scenario!
So, if you don't think under these kind of circumstances, the company can't fetch a measley $14 billion market cap, I would be astonished!!!
Your going to have to change your alias to pie-face, after this humble pie smashes into your face in a couple of years, if not sooner.
Stock Jock , if you want answers and were that concerned, why are you wasting time asking ?'s on a message board instead of picking up the phone and asking Biocurex directly? Then post what you found out? Common sense, isn't it?
As a matter of fact, why is it that none of the bashers have made an effort to contact Biocurex? It seems to me everyone who has, is very positive on the outlook for the company. There is a definite correlation there for sure. These bashers are self-motivated scum out to make a fast buck or have very boring personalities, (geeks) who sit in front of the computer all day on message boards in substitute of a social life. They need to find and harp on negatives or they lose their social platforms! They are only interested in arguing, debating and making points (an illusion that makes them feel important and convincing.).
Yes, that was very cheezy, you don't live in a perfect world. People make mistakes. My focus is on the technology. Even the bashers have little to say about the technology itself, they are regulated to things like share price, management, etc ... . The mistakes aren't really that huge! Certainly not big enough to scare off investors when the technology is commercialized and the statistical numbers are published by medical journals and on the evening news!
You are missing the point! We are talking best case scenarios. You are insane if you think that $ amount per share is not realistic given everything I posted comes true. I think it is realistic to think it might if the tech is everything it is hyped up to be. Who is to say that it is not. It has worked on every cancer tested so far. Every other cancer marker that has been discovered is only specific to one cancer type. This is the only universal cancer marker and nobody has been able to challenge the results of the studies. It was good enough for Abbott to license it! Many of the naysayers are full of hot air with their opinions and doubts because they don't pick-up the phone and make calls or in most cases do much due diligence. They just want to sit back, speculate and make assumptions about the stock price, whose selling, etc ... . We have under 40,000,000 shares outstanding! Even if it were 100,000,000 when the word gets out and companies like Abbott begin marketing these recaf products, how can we not touch $100,$200,$300 and$400 ps. Look at google!
I can understand the skeptics, because we have all been raised to believe that if it's too good to be true, it probably is. I'm not too concerned over the current price because I am not here to day trade. I am here for the long haul. It is what it is. The public has not been made aware of the potential this technology holds yet, and it has not yet been approved by the FDA. Once Abbott refines it and submits it to the FDA, we'll have a whole different kind of animal here. Speculate all you want, but I think the reward by far outweighs the risks! And I have definitely put my money where my mouth is with over 220K shares.
Everything is looking good with the technology, the reseachers are making progress over at Abbott, things are looking promising in terms of imaging and therapuetics as well. If you are a skeptic, offer reasons why you don't think this technology will pan out. All the skeptics have are questions, that will be answered at a later date. For now, you need to be patient or find another investment. I challenge anyone to offer some factual reasons why they don't have any faith in the technology, for the board to consider.
It seems that all the skeptic can do is gripe and whine over the current price. What about the technology though, if it is what it is claimed to be the price will take care of itself. IMHO, I say it will be over $100 ps within the next 5-7 years! Worst case I sell at $10 and pocket well over a mil after taxes. I hope people like reverse, GS and Stock Jock are still around here in another 2-3 years, cause by that time I would have replaced the cream for humble pies and will have a whole arsenal waiting!!!
Do you really believe that $10 per share is the best case scenario? Are you out of your mind? The technology working as good as advertised, commercialized and sold world wide for a variety of cancers, screenings and cancer follow-ups; the technology being used for imaging and therapuetics. Ten bucks ps? Without a stock split, you are looking at over $400 ps, easy!
Why do you care??? You don't even hold a position, but you continue to haunt this board. Get a new hobby!
Bashers beware! You belong over at Ragingbull. Most of us came over here to escape you.
YOU ARE NOT WANTED, AND IF YOU DON"T LIKE HAVING YOUR LONG, WELL THOUGHT OUT BASHES DELETED, BO BACK FROM WINCE YOU CAME!
Half-full, if they did make the call and got any kind of positive info. , do you think they would post it without first trying to give it a negative spin? Anything less would contradict their agenda!
Get over it!!!
"It looks like I am being muzzled again today with two posts already deleted."
Good, if you are looking for sympathy, I doubt you'll find it here!
There is a reason why you are being muzzled. You are obviously still attempting to bash!
"Discussing only the POSITIVE aspects of BOCX. That makes this board totally worthless and a tool only for those who want to present a biased view of the stock."
SO THEN, GET LOST!!!
You are doing a great job moderating Half-full! Keep up the good work!
Good, because most of us here are tired of listening to your nonsense! What is it 15 posts a day? Get a life!
Did he say that he contacted the company on a Sunday or are you putting words in his mouth, the same way you put words in Biocurex's mouth, since they represent the factual authority.
Another example of you making assumptions and converting them into fact. Hocus, Pocus!!!
You change your opinion from week to week. Does that lend any confidence to your credibility? I think not!
"Truth, what is truth!" The Bible
"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" Jack Nicholson. "A FEW GOOD MEN"
To all the naysayers, keep watching, keep waiting and you will soon feel a feeling you won't soon forget. Either that of jubilation, or a very sick, depressing, headbanging feeling of what could have been as you contemplate your financial future!
Gold is full of it! He says he is following the stock to advise friends, I'm willing to wager he is not doing that at their request. He sees a lot of potential in this stock and is following it so that he can get back in at a lower cost (hoping his negative comments help to facilitate that) or catch the train at the next stop once Abbott confirms the technology, via making payments to Biocurex!
What a joke!!!
Your points are well taken!
"Apparently the Japan news was old. Why was it presented in the news release as if it was something current?"
... because it was finally published recently in a medical journal.
"All of this banter between the 2 is really getting annoying. But the first one I'd block now would be Erthang."
So do it!!!
On behalf of the board, I would like to thank you for offering your insigbt and prospective on the stock and what we have to look forward to. I'm sure that there is much more to come. I can't wait!!!
Got it. Thanks!
Thank you, and hopefully you will distinguish between your speculative rants and factual infomation in the future.
Please address you "BS ass" comment:
"From the Lebed alert interview with Wittenberg that you said didn't happen?"
You fraud!!!
And another thing, why do you use inclusive words like, "Give US a break"? Do you still really believe that you speak for the board?
Give ME a break!!!
Your last post actually made me laugh out loud! Which is the first time I believe, that, that has ever happen on any message board. That was a good one!!!
The truth is, I think he is being very punkish, stepping up to defend you and your speculative posts. I think you have made some positive contributions, and only have a problem with you misleading speculative post. I say misleading because when you make your speculations, one can't tell the difference between when you are speculating, or speaking based on facts.
You know, kind of what you accuse Lebed of doing!
Goldseeker, what in any of my posts has led you to believe that I have any respect whatsoever in what you think, or your ability to logically arrive at a reasonable conclusion about anything! I would be a fool to make any attempts to impress you. Intelligence apparently does not do the trick!
Headache, I have read your posts and you are a bit of a cheerleader with not a lot of solid information with the exception of a few pr links.
Since we are stating opinions, (imo) I think I (overall)in fact know, I have made bigger contributions to this board than you have, so who are you to talk? Exactly, so shut up!!!
Like your typical post on this site, you are basing your comments on your thoughts, and misguided conclusions that you draw, again using non-accurate info (I'm being nice, I probably should just say flat out lies) and I find myself defending myself against them.
"They have had offers and Abbott knows it, that's why they expressed a desire to have an exclusive. Abbott has realized the potential the technology holds and wants to have control."
In part, I place some validity to the Lebed interview because he said that is what the CFO told him. He has already been sued for SEC infractions and I'm sure has learned some lessons, he would not say the CFO said something that he did not! That would be too blatant, and what would he have to gain vs. what he would have to lose?
See, I understand that there is virtually no chance that Abbott is going to return the license, but you filter information through a tenative, skeptical, too good to be true filter that twists and convolutes. Therefore, you are confused and (IMO) have a questionable ability to arrive at rational conclusions.
Here is an example of one of your many comments that are not based on fact:
"From the Lebed alert interview with Wittenberg that you said didn't happen?"
I never said that, and if you claim I did, please post it. You can't!
I think it is wise that you gracefully bow out of any future debates with me regarding your credibility, because I will continue to make you look more and more foolish. Funny how you use and speak for the board as to what they want as your excuse for me to cease pummeling you in the face with these cream pies; just as you consider yourself the unofficial spokesperson for Biocurex, speaking on their behalf to inform investors of what is going on behind the scenes.
If we do indeed need a board jester, you seem to fit all of the qualifications. Please humbly accept my nomination.
"You obviously have a great fear of what I post."
Actually, your statement is a prime example of how off beat, irrational and absurd your speculations really are. How in the world did you come up with that conclusion? Please explain your thought process and how you concluded that? As stated before, the only reason I respond and refute what you post is because I don't want new uninformed potential investors to be mislead by your speculative posts.
"I post as many facts as I can and using those facts to make some sense of what is going on."
THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU DON'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN WHAT IS FACT AND WHAT IS SPECULATION. That is the only problem I have with you! Do you get it now?
"You posted one interview with Moro and the rest of your stuff is garbage designed to mentally protect yourself in justifying your speculative investing."
I suppose the garbage part are my responses, refuting, challenging and questioning your many speculations, that I know are way off base, in part because I have factual info to contradict what you "think"!
And if what I post is garbage, HOW WOULD YOU CLASSIFY YOUR POSTS(?), and please don't insult the board by saying, intelligent, well thought out and informative posts of reason. That would be the biggest comedic one liner of the year!
"Biocurex will have at least one other licensee before Abbott has any recaf product on the market. My guess is within the next 6 months."
"This statement has no empirical warrant. It is idle speculation."
Well, duh! Of course it is speculation and I qualified it as such, "My guess is ... "
My point is that Goldseeker speaks as if he has factual info, doesn't qualify what he says as speculation and most times clearly doesn't know what he is talking about!
Actually my comments are much more than conjecture. I do indeed have a very good idea that they have spent much, much more than the initial $200,000 upfront on developing the tech.
"Totally wild conjecture. You have ZERO idea as to what commercialization even is nor when it will occur. Even I cannot guess on that. Was Lebed your source of that information?"
Even I? What is that suppose to mean? I guess that is your way of admitting that, that's all you do is guess and speculate. I don't have a problem with that. The problem is that you present your statements as if you know, when you don't. If you know something, then you should be able to back it up with some factual information.
For instance, Dr. Moro told me that he is getting very close to getting the money needed to get listed on the AMEX (minimum 4 mil) from Abbott. I'm pretty sure (from the context of our conversation) he wasn't talking about the min royalty payment, but the feasibility payment. He also stated that every day we are getting closer to our goal, referring to Abbott and commercialization.
Now, you say I have zero idea and am making "wild conjecture". Please explain. I say you have "zero" credibility and close to senality with your ability to reason.
Furthermore, just getting the radioimmunoassay into a colorimetric fromat is a huge step toward commercialization and probably could easily be commercialized as is, since it already is twice as effective in picking up cancer than is the PSA. They are just refining it to see if they can match or surpass the results of the radioimmunoassay.
I think the board is beginning to get a very good idea about you, and determine whose "head is in the clouds". Therefore, my job of exposing you for the man who is full of speculation, with little real information and an inablility to piece together the little bit of info he has in a rational way, is about done. Anymore direct response to your absurd comments, ideas and speculations are probably a waste of my time. Kind of like me debating with a 5 year old on why eating too much candy is bad for you. You would be that 5 yr old arguing that it can't be that bad because it taste so good!
I have a speculation for you. I speculate that like "reverse", you are too cheap to pick up the phone to make calls to the company for yourself to ask direct questions; are too lazy to do your own due diligence, so you waste the board's time making wild speculations, under the guise of being in the know, hoping to get some real factual information when someone like me retorts to dispell the misinformation that you are spewing.
Anybody mislead by you on this investment deserves to not make money. Do your own due diligence board, and don't take Goldseeker's word for anything, cause (and he won't disclose this)it's a 99.9% chance that it's pure factless speculation!!!
"And you know this all how? I am very skeptical after the happenings of the week. I don't want to know deductive reasoning, or speculation. I want facts."
I know all of this by, as stated, following the company and being invested for about 3 years. As far as deductive reasoning and speculation goes, if you noticed that post didn't have your name on it. I was addressing a poster that needed a reality check on that subject matter, one who makes statements that have no basis in fact. If you want facts, then you obviously need to do some due diligence. You can start with the interview I had with Dr. Moro that was posted on this message board back in late February. Since then, there has been a number of research links posted on this board as well.
I don't work for investor relations, therefore I have no direct interest in providing you with the facts that you want, or dispelling your skepticism. My advice to you is, if you think that there is potential here, get on your bicycle and put in some work to find out more about your investment decision.
Personally, if I were skeptical, it would be worth my while to contact the company directly with some straight forward questions, measured by any public information I could find about the company!
Peace,
Erthang
You are missing the point! You need to get your cheap ass on the phone and make the call, instead of trying to get others to do your bidding!
Well, I've been following this company for about 3 years now and have done plenty of due dilligence. Without getting into details, that scenario just doesn't add up and makes no sense.
For one thing Abbott has been working on incorporating the recaf technology into their architect system for almost 2 years, which tells me that they have invested much more $ than the announced $200,000 upfront payment into developing the technology. It's more like a few million. They are getting very close to commercialization. They have already change the format of the test into a working prototype that is close to being as effective as the original, which used the undesirable radio-active material.
"when I read that Moro had been unable to make additional license deals because it would detract from future royalties, you immediately know that Abbott has a "me too" clause in their contract."
There you go, speculating again. Not everything is as it appears. You are old enough and should have enough experience to recognize that.
Now, I think it's high time to give you a lesson in rational thought to support arguments. Let me first begin by explaining to you what the difference is between deductive reasoning vs. speculation.
Deductive reasoning is when you eliminate what it is not, by determining what it can't be. Then you are left only with the possiblities. Even then, there is some question as to which possibility is the correct answer. So, you still aren't in a position to make an "absolute" factual statement,just able to state what it is not. You, however, rarely qualify your statements, thereby making your statements appear as though they are factual. Yet, you are almost never able to cite factual references to back up your statements, which leads us into our next term:
Speculation- is when a person makes an assumption of unusual business risk in hopes of obtaining commensurate gain.
The question that I have for you is, with your constant misleading,speculative posts, are you hoping to gain at other investors' expense? Or, do you just get your kicks by stirring up the pot with misleading, non-factual information?
Just trying to get you to open up a little, sir!