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So why does the SEC get a free pass on their responsibility to shareholders here and the company for that matter?
Based on the language of the Act, if the SEC would have done their job in accordance to the Sarbanes-Oxley act of 2002 this would have been resolved by 2008. In accordance to the act, the SEC is required by law to review the financials of each and every SEC filer under 13(a) or 15(d), no less frequently than at least once every three years...
just patiently wait for every 1,000,000 shares you own, to turn into 500 shares, and hope that some entity doesn't start heavily diluting the new share structure out of the gate. Basically the pre-split share price is adjusted to equal the post split share value, at least for a split second the following day.
Example: say the share price is $1/share at close the day before the split. So a 1 for 2 reverse split would take 2 shares @ $1/share and adjust it into 1 share @ $2/share for a theoretically equal post split value, for market open the following day.
It generally takes several days to see the new shares in your account, but once you see the adjusted share count in your account, they are usually tradable again.
Then you can decide to wait it out in hopes the company will do the right thing, or sell and take the loss if it drops way down. Typically share price drops immediately following as most head for the door to cut their loss, and sometimes diluters are on the dime.
It may or may not rebound some, all, or surpass pre RS value depending on company or creditors re-diluting.
Also something to consider, let's say you bought @ .0002(or higher). Since it closed @ .0001, your shares dropped 50% before the RS value is calculated. So if it opens @ .20 adjusted share price, you would have to hit .40/share to break even. Most of the time you can expect to see some to a lot of follow-up selling and or dilution especially if there is debt, so from these levels, unless you owned shares @ .0001 the odds of it ever hitting your buy in price may be limited.
At the moment, it is actually showing a huge gain, but then again less than a thousand new shares have been traded/sold, and few if any retail holders have their new shares yet.
Also, expect to see a flat $20-$50 reorganization fee assessed to your account by your broker.
Hope this helps.
Also, here is a link for better understanding. https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/071415/why-would-company-perform-reverse-stock-split.asp
This is certainly WAY under the radar and nothing doing with the stock side. But not exactly nothing going on. Would have liked to see it be a bigger number but they did announce a hundred million share buyback a couple weeks ago.
Don't know if they have started or not, and sort of wishful thinking, but would be nice to see him quietly fulfill it @ .0001, and then quietly buy back another billion.
And although certainly impacted by COVID, as people stay home instead of travel, DIY home improvements are bound to become more common. Was speaking to a neighbor yesterday, that does fences. He has jobs lined up, but is having difficulty getting materials for that very reason.
Looks like maybe they're on to something with these copper type face masks.
How so? they are both publicly traded securities subject to market conditions, and within a million shares they have the exact same O.S.
and when making a percentage comparison it is apples to apples
isnt it normal that we have a drop after the bug increase?
30% retrace for a "legitimate" company? and it's still dropping. The last time, it retraced to 50% off of 52 week high in 4 days.
Amazon, a company that sells Airdog products is trading at $3000/share. if it dropped 50% 4 days after a rally that followed a "significant" news release; to $1,500/share in 4 days, or even dropping a $1,000 to $2,000/share, would that be "normal"?
ANNND so will these, if those actually do. They are all based on the same principle of corona discharge to ionize the air and produce static electricity. Here is an article written in 2003, when KNOS was in it's infancy. Sharp electronics had already been studying it around the time or before Kronos discovered it...
Which one kills down to. 0146 microns?
Umm, probably all of them. As an industry standard, .0146 microns is actually pretty subpar. Here are three random products that are well within ozone limits, that remove much smaller particles than .0146
2 of them are less than $70(so 9 can be purchased for the price of 1 airdog). And @ .001 micron, 2 of them remove particles almost 7 times smaller than your .0146 micron third world technology...
https://www.microncorp.com/energaire/
https://www.oionair.com/product/oion-b-1000/
https://www.genano.com/
no, 6 minutes
100% false. First bonafide infomercial aired in 1949 for the vitamix and it was 27 minutes long. Harrington was born in 1956, 7 years later.
It appears as though it is back in the hands, will be shortly, or never really left of the hands of Simon Rubin/Yuri Abramov. As per Latest 8-K from BITZ, to whom KNOS owes $1.25million+, they are now on BOD of Botz, inc...
https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=14279784&guid=3UFFUng_ohhxFth
theres not fraudulent here please tell me where there has been such a thing
conversions? the OS hasnt changed in a year plus,
looks like they bumped the unrestricted as well. It increased by 24,170,858 shares since the last OTC update from 7/13 and is now at 266 million, up from 241 million
oh really? care to compare the public float of 3/31/2020 with OTC's most recent update of unrestricted shares? that's a 17.3 million share difference. Unless I miscalculated or read it wrong, of 25 million shares converted as per the most recent filing, only 12 million were declared restricted. So, granted I didn't thoroughly read the filing, there actually seems to be 4.3 million mystery shares.
Besides, the whole point was that they updated the OTC share structure MANY MANY times since they updated NV SOS 3 months ago. And until tonight, it still reflected "TA verified" inaccurate and false information even though it had changed months ago. So what's to say, that the "TA verified" unrestricted share data is accurate and up to date?
That's actually not true either. 25,000,000 shares converted by Greg Rubin/BITCF at roughly .007/share average(if math memory serves me correctly) since Feb. 27th., as per their most recent filing(roughly half were supposedly restricted, but in the words subsequent events, the filing stated that "as of", stated date they were still restricted, so that status would be subject to change at any time).
And although pure speculation until reflected in BITCF filings, assuming they have recently entered the market so he can convert his next tranche(he is only allowed to own 9.99% of float at any given time), 25,000,000 X .18/share average would be $4,500,000.00 worth of KNOS stock shouldered by current shareholders. Not a bad 4 month R.O.I. on accumulated interest and comparatively small amount of principle(I think it reduced the $1.25 million dollar convertible note principle by a mere $60K).
Any rate, not actually looking to rain on the parade. But, transparency is based on facts supported by evidence, unless stated as opinion.
Not to mention their current claims to ownership of the original patents found, not only in filings, but also within website, and promotional materials. Of which, unless something has very recently changed, they seem to be somewhat less than forthright about. As of the submission of this post, the United States Patent and Trademark Office database, still reflects they are not only owned and controlled by creditors that foreclosed on them when the original business closed in 09; but every one of them carries an abandoned or expired status due to non payment of required USPTO maintenance fees dating back close to a decade. Yet 1 year old filings state, that they have received notice from USPTO that they are all in good standing and cleared for issue as if they are owned by KNOS and current. Here are real time links to USPTO for each and every patent by number. Klik the links to reveal the actual transparency, .
Although listed by patent number, in order as found within filings, the labels are for easy cross reference to patents found on website, and indicate numerically, in direct correlation to respective position as within the list on the company website(the final assignee would be the current owner, not the assignor, and sometimes USPTO servers seem quite slow, probably from excessive traffic, so take a few seconds or longer to load if they don't time out)...
Not on website:
link to owner of patent 7,410,531(2) ; link to patent 7,410,531(2) status
Not on website:
link to owner of patent 7,262,564 ; link to patent 7,262,564 status
Not on website:
link to owner of patent 7,248,003 ; link to patent 7,248,003 status
5 of 15:
link to owner of patent 7,122,070 ; link to patent 7,122,070 status
1 of 15:
link to owner of patent 7,150,780 ; link to patent 7,150,780 status
7 of 15:
link to owner of patent 7,053,565 ; link to patent 7,053,565 status
6 of 15:
link to owner of patent 6,963,479 ; link to patent 6,963,479 status
2 of 15:
link to owner of patent 6,937,455 ; link to patent 6,937,455 status
Not on website:
link to owner of patent 6,888,314 ; link to patent 6,888,314 status
4 of 15:
link to owner of patent 6,727,657 ; link to patent 6,727,657 status
8 of 15:
link to owner of patent 6,664,741 ; link to patent 6,664,741 status
Not on website:(also time expired, so is fair game in public domain)
link to owner of patent 6,504,308 ; link to patent 6,504,308 status
the 12 patents listed in filings and a mish mosh of 12 applications and patents on latest powerpoint presentation matches 12 of the 15 displayed on the company website, with less than 50% overlap to filings. 5 don't even match what is listed in the filings. And 4 of those, were only patent applications and were abandoned long ago so never actually became patents. Not found above...
link to latest promotional p.d.f. see page 23
link to patents listed on website All of the following "patents" are found on the list within the company's website, but are not listed specifically listed within filings. They are labeled numerically in direct correlation to respective position as within the list on the company website...
3 of 15)
link to owner of patent 6,919,698 ; link to patent 6,919,698 status
9 of 15)
10 of 15)
11 of 15)
12 of 15)
Under the "Patent applications" section on company website of which they display 3 applications...
1 of 3) is actually just a repeat of the above desalination "patent" that is actually just an abandoned application but is labeled here with the original provisional application number, but linked to a different document on USPTO website and is demonstrated by cross referencing the publication number
2 of 3) Is actually a patent...link to owner of patent 7,532,451 ; link to patent 7,532,451 status
3 od 3) Is also actually a patent...link to owner of patent 7,497,893 ; link to patent 7,497,893 status
that was short version, full due diligence from previous post...
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=155962235
Thats false, they finally reported their 2,000,000,000 A/S increase to OTC. They filed for it with NV SOS 4/15/2020. Only took them what, 3 months to provide transparency?
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/KNOS/security
Filing an application doesn't grant them a patent, and even if there is some priority program, it won't happen overnight, if at all. Anyone can file an application, but because one of the three required criteria for being granted a patent, the invention must be novel(never before publicly proclaimed or marketed), nonobvious, and useful; is already widely available, so cannot be met...one of several existing copper embedded mask /// and is also in the news here
Besides, it looks like someone sorta beat them to it, in a thoroughly scripted application that goes WAYYYYYY beyond lacing a few copper and silver threads into a fabric so the wearer can help E.T. phone home without getting zapped by EMF radiation. And has already been granted up to date patent status for well over 2 years now. seems to belong to this company /// Link to patent number 9,901,128 for anti-microbial fabric that specifically includes face masks
But we can still give them an E for effort. And, assuming they are actually serious about this, they will most likely have to amend their application claims accordingly to actually get the patent, and won't be able to imply Covid-19 safety or market it as anti-microbial without risk of infringement lawsuit, but maybe they can still capitalize on the radiation protection feature with an infomercial.
Because I know cell phone radiation is pretty much right behind Covid concerns for most american consumers and shareholders alike in today's market sector. Especially since the cancer concerns revolve around tumors in the ear and brain, and the mask only protects the chin, but doesn't actually protect the ear, which is what everyone presses their cell phone up against.mayo clinic on cell phone safety /// FDA on cell phone radiation
Here are some Key excerpts from Lidco product's patent itself...
Except that they seem to have removed this portion of the original company's technology from the company's current nomenclature. Probably to accomodate the "introduction" of their "latest generation" product line that happens to use a fan. Not that they seem to actually own or control the relevant patent any longer anyways( previous post of current patent state of affairs on original technologies with links directly to USPTO , thus far nothing has changed at USPTO to indicate that they bought back any of these patents) This was probably done in effort to legitimize a re-brand of someone else's similar product, that they are implying as their own(airdog has their own patents, although there is some truth to the statement that Airdog utilizes some of Kronos "CORE" technology. As I believe the CEO of airdogUSA actually worked for Tessara, a company that purchased several of KRONOS patents back when they had to scramble for cash to pay creditors, and before the rest of the patents were foreclosed on), and happens to utilize a fan for air movement. Here are the 2 successive PRs where that element seems to have been eliminated.
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/KNOS/news/KRONOS-ADVANCED-TECHNOLOGIES-UTILIZES-ECOINVENTIONS--Authorized-Dealer-Channel-as-a-Distribution-and-Technology-Partner?id=257802
I wasn't aware that KRONOS has an amazon store. I only seem to be able to find Airdog's store. Do you have a link to KRONOS store?
So what are you saying here?
Not to mention, that share price was based on 25,000,000 O/S with a 50,000,000 A/S. Furthermore, at that point in time TSET appears to have been more of a holding company, and Kronos was just one of multiple subsidiaries.
It appears the best they ever did as KNOS was .45/share on 50,000,000 O/S with at least a few bucks in the bank and some promise with a few patents that they actually owned and controlled.
T/A just updated yesterday. Still showing unchanged. Maybe update this sticky to reflect both dates to show that it remains unchanged.
yeah, should be interesting to see how they reconcile all the discrepancies on the audits.
That deals with particulate emissions from COAL and other combustibles.
Precisely...
I thought you said you were in a related industry and read the expired patents.
That sounds to me like large scale Kronos emitter wires and collector plates mounted in the exhaust stream of an industrial plant. Sort of a giant air dog stuffed in a chimney. Someone here challenged me to find comparable or newer technology, I provided verifiable proof, that there are plenty of other much larger companies out there with their own newer variation of this age old technology, and this is the best rebuttal you've got? Perhaps you should spend more time educating yourself on the principles behind the technology you are defending, and less time threatening to tattle tale on others that are raising legitimate points of concern that don't agree with your desired outcome. Starting to look like this is your failure, not mine...
Well, here's a start, all with similar but likely newer technology, as they didn't take a 15 year hiatus, like kronos did; in just a few examples on the commercial frontier that are comparable or newer..., the landscape is highly competitive with many companies much larger than Kronos using, pretty much identical, but most likely more up to date electronic controls and therefore newer "Kronos" technology, so it's not so proprietary any more...
here is a little corner store that makes large, and probably much improved commercial versions of the "silent night"
here is another fly on the wall company that uses their version of more up to date "kronos" technology, and has several large projects under their belt, including the new state of the art TWA hotel out here at the JFK international airport and Grand Sierra Resort and Casino in Reno to name a couple
how about this little one man show, that uses updated "Kronos" technology, and actually donated purifiers to wuhan(how many silentnights did Kronos send to wuhan again?)
here is another little hole in the wall company that already seems to have their foot in the door of a few little mom and pop corporations with their updated version of "Kronos" technology
Here is a 4 years established publicly traded company listed on NYSE in Julius Toth's backyard with 1/10th of the O/S as KNOS, that uses "kronos" technology to clean industrial pollution as it leaves the building in large commercial environments. and even with large global contract projects, is still only trading at $2.33 per share on 45M O/S
just to name a few, and this does not include the plethora of consumer grade ionic air purifiers that do the exact same thing as what is peddled on the kronos website. Mechanically, since they all make pretty much the same statistical claims, ionic purification appears to be as optimized as fluid dynamics and electronics engineering currently allows. And the market is already saturated with companies that have jumped on the bandwagon long before Covid19 was a thing, so to think this is sort of game changer seems absurd at best.
As far as the "Kronos" technology it self...considering that they don't seem to own a single patent, as all of the original company patents were foreclosed on by a creditor in 09, with no evidence at the U.S. patent and trademark office that anything has changed...
Here are all their patents listed by number and linked directly to the USPTO in real time. as of the submission of this post they still reflect expired and owned by other entities... Although listed in order as found within filings, the labels are for easy cross reference to patents found on website, and indicate numerically, in direct correlation to respective position as within the list on the company website(the final assignee would be the current owner, not the assignor, and some take a few seconds to load)...
Not on website:
link to owner of patent 7,410,531(2) ; link to patent 7,410,531(2) status
Not on website:
link to owner of patent 7,262,564 ; link to patent 7,262,564 status
Not on website:
link to owner of patent 7,248,003 ; link to patent 7,248,003 status
5 of 15:
link to owner of patent 7,122,070 ; link to patent 7,122,070 status
1 of 15:
link to owner of patent 7,150,780 ; link to patent 7,150,780 status
7 of 15:
link to owner of patent 7,053,565 ; link to patent 7,053,565 status
6 of 15:
link to owner of patent 6,963,479 ; link to patent 6,963,479 status
2 of 15:
link to owner of patent 6,937,455 ; link to patent 6,937,455 status
Not on website:
link to owner of patent 6,888,314 ; link to patent 6,888,314 status
4 of 15:
link to owner of patent 6,727,657 ; link to patent 6,727,657 status
8 of 15:
link to owner of patent 6,664,741 ; link to patent 6,664,741 status
Not on website:(also time expired, so is fair game in public domain)
link to owner of patent 6,504,308 ; link to patent 6,504,308 status
And airdog's technology is similar, but not actually "Kronos" technology as Airdog has their OWN patents based on their own engineering, and therefore belongs to Airdog and is not "Kronos" technology.
Not to mention, Ionic filtration is not "new" it was discovered in the early 1800s(it was just called electrostatic precipitation), was first commercialized in early 1900s, has been in wide spread use ever since(mostly in commercial chimney scrubbers and some un-occupied commercial HVAC systems due to concerns of ozone production, although there are now more than a few that are starting to address this concern for more widespread use in occupied spaces), and optimized with electronics over the last decade; so I would say pretty much everything developed in the last 10 years qualifies as newer.
Oh, wait! I forgot, you only get your due diligence from the company website...
The big question is exactly what are they going to do there? And what constitutes "Manufacturing"?
That oughta get Julius Toth off his RSI, so he can start manipulating his Capitulator again while Ruby strums the bollinger banjo. Its a good thing they now have a production facility and have already started manufacturing ventilators.
I know you are the expert on all things KNOS here. We all know they should be dropping the big "Kronos rescues China PR" before EOD!! But realistically, when do you think Kronos will have the first shipment bound for China? Monday? Tuesday latest? HOLY COW!!! this is HUUUUUUGE!!!! that'll bring this up to $7/share for sure!!!!
I'm not seeing it on the website yet but A sneak peek at the new Kronos ZEPA-vent 9000(I'm sure it's still a little up in the air on which of their designs they will go with, so we should review all their probable design possibilities) , maybe it will be the free gift if you are one the first hundred callers in the upcoming infomercial.
Hopefully they have their order in, before some other Chinese company steals their patented technology and it ends up on back order.
Whatever you say, Chief!
It probably has to do with the terms of outstanding convertible debt. It is a common practice that debtors require enough A/S liquidity to cover the debt in a theoretical worst case scenario. Thus far he has been successful in staving off any additional conversions for the better part of a year, in some sort of verbal negotiations with Tangiers.
Don't know the accuracy of it, or what it is based on. But it has been stated here that, due to the whole Covid thing there wont be any conversions for a 12 month period. If that is actually true; hopefully, within that time, he will be in a position to eliminate what is left of convertible debt from the books via re-payment with a non-dilutive instrument of some sort. IE personal loan to the company or re-instating the SBA loan, and removing tangiers from the books.
Unless he was looking to take another stab at the Reg. A, That would be the point at which he would be in full control of being able to reduce the A/S.
JMO
If you are looking at the size 5 model; I would call first to make sure they have in stock, but it appears as though you can save yourself $130 with free delivery to arrive tuesday; if you just bypass the whole Kronos Circus and buy the same purifier from walmart, just with Edenpure stickers.
Edenpure Airdog at Walmart
edenpure direct
Also, no idea of actual terms or process, but, by purchasing through Walmart, one also has opportunity to take a portion of the $130 saved($80), and apply it towards a 4 year walmart protection plan, still getting it to your doorstep for less, but 4yrs peace of mind.
Or $599+ shipping directly from AirdogUSA with 1 year warranty. but not shipped until end of month Airdogusa direct
Unless of course, it is preferable or desirable to pay the additional $100-$130+ God only knows how much extra for shipping premium; since you have to commit to purchase before being informed of shipping fee; to receive an airdog product with "official" Kronos stickers and an unknown warranty(at least they don't seem to advertise a warranty of any kind on their website that I saw, but pretty sure Airdog provides 1 year, assuming rebranding it with Kronos stickers doesn't void the manufacturer's warranty). Airdog with kronos stickers
It should be noted that there seems to be a couple minor drawbacks in buying an official Airdog branded unit directly from AirdogUSA vs. benefits of purchasing from super stupendous ecoinventor related company. First, it appears as though you only get generic emitter wires if you purchase an official Airdog product from the official factory warehouse; whereas if you buy the bargain priced Edenpure or super premium priced Kronos Airdog product, the installation of rebrand stickers seem to magnificently transform generic emitter wires into super duper extra special turbo Kronos emitter wires. Also the official Airdog products seems to be much noisier at an advertised 63db., whereas the installation of Edenpure or Kronos stickers, seems to substantially reduce the noise level to "silent operation" on all settings as implicated in product features. Which by definition is an astounding and very impressive 0db., as per both Kronos and Edenpure advertised feature.
Let us know if you get noticeably cleaner air and absolutely silent operation at all settings if you splurge on the super premium priced model with Kronos stickers.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but there are plenty of OTC pink CURRENT companies with unaudited financials. I believe audited financials is a requirement of SEC filers. This is not an SEC filing company, and therefore, as alternative reporting, I believe exempt from filing audits, and therefore they mean plenty in regards to being considered pink current.
JMO
Was actually posted mid-session. Most likely sometime between 1:00-2:30pm EDT. And may have been what kicked off the afternoon rally. I noticed it a little after 3:00 pm and someone else first posted a link at 2:45
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=156316806
they probably came from an orphanage or a dogpound, in yet another failed attempt to stimulate a sell-off.
Now what's the problem with not showing current and the yield sign?
https://backend.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/250014/content
Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but there were two more filings posted on OTC yesterday.
06/14/2020 Supplemental Information - Supplemental Information and Disclosure Statements as at March 31, 2020 03/31/2020 A
06/14/2020 Supplemental Information - Supplemental Information and Disclosure Statements as at December 31, 2019 12/31/2019 A
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/COHO/disclosure
Given most have been bought @.0004/.0005, that is likely what they sold most of their shares for. And their efforts to crash and catch at .0004/.0003 somewhat obviously failed miserably yesterday and today, evidenced by the fact that they have resorted to begging for the "big down".
JMO, but it appears as though all of their cards are probably currently on the table. Hopefully, no one sells any more into the bid for weekend beer money, we get a few deeper pockets that put in sizable buy orders, and won't allow sellers orders to cancel once they start filling. Would be nice to lock them out at these levels, and then they can take their shit show elsewhere.
Remember? She, it, they, pulled the same tactics in 2018. I just don't think they anticipated a half a billion shares buying volume @.0004/.0005 out of the gate. And the initial scramble for .0002s, probably ate into their shares to begin with as that was probably their wall to accumulate whatever they got @.0001.
JMO
looks like the ear wigs at the orphanage are trying to buy back all of their .0005s since no one here will sell them. .0004s or .0003s
Yeah, never saw that one coming.
link to Ihub post dated 4/24/20 , 5 days prior to the PR.(although, it does appear that I missed the mark on "ready to ship" date, on account of Covid-19 causing delays of US bound Chinese freight)
I would hope so, but given their lack of transparency that I have seen thus far, I wouldn't count on it. Nonetheless, that is what is on file at the NV SOS. And as stated, in a recorded conversation it was confirmed by a live customer service rep. directly from NV SOS during the week. Most of NV SOS general information is publicly available(if you want to view the filing itself, it'll set you back 2 bucks, plus whatever time it takes to receive it by mail).
As their entity search is through a portal, it doesn't provide a direct link. However, here is a link to their entity search. when you get there, just type Kronos advanced in the search box and it was enough to bring up the company. klik on the company and scroll to the bottom where it says share number 2,000,000,000 authorized
link to NV SOS business search
Why they or their TA have not updated on OTC is anyone's guess. It doesn't change the facts.