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LOL soooo you bash seeking alpha and sierra, but are saying how great of a post is on YMB. Wow dude you really must be feeling the heat knowing VRNG is gonna win and you will lose a ton of money.
What happened to only trusting Bloomberg and similar sources?
And FYI: this whole trial is about proving infringement. VRNGs experts have shown infringement very well, GOOGs experts have looked AWFUL.
Just like 2.80, 3.10, 3.50, & 3.51 last week, right bball?
0-4 in one week
The only posting you should be doing is on the court, kiddo.
Again, a lack of research on your part. They filed for 3.5% royalties.
Youre the biggest "newbie" on this board dude. What happened to 2.80? LOL.
And it doesn't matter if they only paid $3m for it, GOOG paid ZERO.
CLEARLY you havent followed any of the trial whatsoever, because goog is losing bad right now "newbie." You're accusing people of pumping, and you're only doing the exact opposite with no facts to back it up. You're a giant joke on this board and yet you don't even see that haha.
Keep moving your price predictions up please like you did all last week :)
Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
He's also made predictions all week that ended up being waaaay low, every time, and has continued to raise the price on his predictions since he knows he is wrong.
LOL when it was at $5 it was cuz of a fake article saying there was a settlement. Please learn your information before you post.
EMBARRASSING YOURSELF EVERY TIME YOU POST!!
Basketball, Ive already done the math for you in a post directed towards you a week ago. YOU are the one who is being foolish and neglecting the truth just because you dont want to hear it.
Just stop posting, you embarrass yourself every time you do. This has already been at 5.00 WITHOUT a settlement. You're telling me that if VRNG wins (which they will get more than $500 if they WIN) that the stock is only gonna go to $5 when it was already up there? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
You need to learn dude, your predictions are the worst.
The PPS is going up, and your prediction of 3.51 was wrong. Not that you being wrong surprises anyone since you didnt get anywhere close to a correct prediction all week lmao. You and tomdavid are just so hurt over the fact that you are shorting and failing.
Hahaha true story. No one to blame but myself
I just threw up in my mouth
No one is going to dump when theres 2 trial days left lol
AND are using an expert witness that has been previously discredited by a US Judge. AND released their Q hours early which put them in hot water. AND claimed before trial that they didnt really think that patenting intelligent property was that important. AND one of their highest ranking executives (when interviewed in a video to be shown in trial) started eating pretzels in the middle of said interview due to nervousness.
Good stuff!!
Haha cant hold gains? Your predictions over 4 days:
2.80 (finished higher)
3.10 (finished higher)
3.50 (finished higher)
AND....drum roll please......HE ADDED A PENNY TO HIS NEWEST PREDICTION!!!!
Guess what, it'll finish higher, cuz all I need to do is bet AGAINST you and it comes true. Good day :)
Thats weird, isnt the stock price supposed to be plummeting to fill your 2.80 prediction? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
And yeah, a glove found at a murder scene that didnt fit the accused's hand is definitely the same thing as a patent trial. Just ask Samsung vs Apple haha.
As COMPLETELY off base and far off as your predictions are, I do get a chuckle out of the ignorance behind the lack of facts behind your ideas.
Just give up dude. Ive already proved you wrong (mathematically) that it wouldnt only go to $4 if they win. Heck, it was just PAST $4 yesterday and thats with no news!
If you are going to post bold statements, have facts behind them. Your low-ball predictions have been wrong, and your credibility is ZERO. We closed a FULL DOLLAR above your 2.80 prediction a few days ago lol. Youve consistently upped your targets (2.80, 3.10, 3.50) and still were waaay low on 3 consecutive days. GIVE UP!
Im glad that dump raised value by 9%. See you at 3.82!
(you do realize its a full DOLLAR above your 2.80 prediction from tuesday right?)
Barring any huge setback in court, the closer this gets to the end of trial (expected to be mid-next week) the less shorts will remain. Almost everything has gone VRNGs way since all the way back at the markman ruling through now from a judicial standpoint. The PPS drops were to be expected at some point once trial started, since settlements dont generally happen once into a trial. However, nothing has changed as far as material fact, which is HUGELY in favor of VRNG.
Give it 3 more business days, total shorting will be under 10% of all trading on VRNG
Oh of course. I have no problem with someone trading the swings, I do it all the time with a few other stocks (but have only added to my positions with VRNG.)
I just hate when a stock is being bashed with no facts behind the bashing. Does make for some fun conversation though :)
First 2.80, then 3.10, now 3.50: im glad youre slowly realizing that this stock is worth more than youve given it credit for in those previous predictions lol. See you on our side soon ;)
"Here comes 2.80!" LMAO
Yup, and although it should be taken with a grain of salt, whoever was at the trial yesterday that posted the recap said the jurors looked quite bored with GOOGs first expert. You can guarantee if they dont change that fast they are gonna differ their tactics
You must have lost a LOT of money in PPHM to still be this bitter lol. Blind pessimism is far worse than blind optimism
Haha I laughed so hard at that, nice :) silly bball, still BSing his agenda
Surprisingly no, hes pretty stubborn despite all the facts against his agenda lol. Once VRNG wins I doubt we'll hear of him again
Very true. People are more apt to push a stock down knowing that emotion is going to cause some longs to sell. As i said a few times, the PPS means nothing until there is a verdict. It could be at the 2.80 that Bball claimed and I would still be holding until trials end with no regrets
Basketball, use common sense. You said yesterday that the trial could get thrown out (which it wouldnt, since when the judge ruled in favor of VRNG on MSJ, he even said there were genuine issues of material fact.) You also said the jurors "could take weeks to come to a verdict" which is WAYYYYY off for a civil suit. You dont know much about patent trials do you? And by your claims of 2.80 from two days ago and 3.10 from yesterday, apparently not stocks either.
GOOG is presenting their side now (which has far less exhibits to go over) and they are expected to rest their side by friday (perhaps monday at the latest. We will have an answer to this trial by next week wednesday, and shorts are NOT staying short knowing a verdict is coming.
You dont know much about the inner-workings of the market do you? MMs, hedges, financial firms, etc drive prices down on stocks all the time, especially stocks with "make or break" dates. Pharmaceutical companies before FDA rulings, companies with trial dates, right before earnings come out. The list goes on and on.
WHY do they do this? So they can buy a TON of stock at cheap prices then flip it as soon as good news hits.
Wheres that $3.10 you promised us today? I was hoping to buy more cheapies before VRNG wins friday!
Just like you saw us at 2.80 yesterday? Lmao. Stick to playing basketball...
Hey bball, I havent had my eyes checked recently, but it looks like a green close today. Weird
How do your words taste? Bitter, I would imagine.
Welcome back to the party Jim! Picked up more shares myself at the 3.58 mark, gettin close to 1000 stored up!
Dude, you are OBSESSED with PPHM. GET OVER IT ALREADY, YOU LOST MONEY. Youre like the annoying ex-gf that goes through a bad breakup and stalks her ex-bf and thinks all guys are the same. STOP WITH THINKING ANY COMPANY THAT DOES REALLY WELL THEN DROPS IS THE EXACT SAME THING AS A BIOPHARMA THAT HAD DISCREPENCIES IN TESTING PROCEDURES!!!
On a brighter note, us VRNG longs will be wealthy sometime between Friday and Tuesday. Adios amigos!
Then let me elaborate my original point that was made to basketball and not you:
He is claiming $500m settlement is already into the market cap currently
110m shares x $3.93 = $432m (not $500m)
This also does not take into account the royalties which should follow the bulk settlement total (and yes, there should be royalties if GOOG continues to use the same algorithms that are patented) which could vary from .5% to 3.5% of googles domestic advertising earnings through 2016. (again, this couldnt possibly be reflected into the current PPS to market share as it stands now)
And this would all be assuming that VRNG was worth $0 before this lawsuit, even though it traded near 70 cents a share
The point I was making (even if I just grabbed a number from etrade to use as a quick lazy example) is that a $500m settlement + say 1% royalties as a middleground is pushing the PPS waaaaaaaay above $3.93
Im quoting the market cap directly from etrade dude, not "my valuation" lol
LOL wait wait wait, let me get this straight.... Youre telling us that the potential $500m settlement is already reflected into the market cap, which is.... $229m? Not to mention the $55m in cash that was just raised, or any other assets.
$500m>$229m
No more posts from you, k thanks :)
Haha dude, you clearly have no idea what youre talking about... Any PPS is based on market share and in most cases, a multiple added to that. If VRNG wins the case, and lets just say gets $500mil + 3.5% royalties: take that amount and divide the outstanding shares. Thats not $4, its about $12, and thats WITHOUT a trading multiplier. Sorry to burst your bubble, but your logic is waaaaaaaay off.
You literally have the worst predictions I've ever seen lol. Cant wait till VRNG wins and we can rub it in your face :)
Please do some real DD. Most of us knew it would be shorted. MMs always try to bring price down then buy HUGE amounts right before they figure something will happen (such as winning a trial or a settlement.) And if you have kept up with the court proceedings at all, or looked at the patents and examples of infringement, you would know VRNG has an amazing case. Is there a CHANCE they lose? Sure. But quite honestly its a long shot that Google gets out of this without paying up in one way or another.
Because he isn't at the trial? LMAO. Hes got a life outside one stock dude, might wanna consider following suit.
PPS means absolutely nothing until the trial is over, why anyone thinks otherwise is beyond me. Shorts will push the price down and then buy large amounts at those low prices. Happens ALL the time.
LOL no, it doesnt.....