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The expectation that Schott is going to bring good things to the table is the only thing keeping a vague heartbeat to this thing. They are the wildcard here. The only thing that bothers me about Schott is with the amount of financial horsepower they have.... Why don't they just cut a deal with TDCP for a couple million bucks to be paid back when this thing hits the market? My thought are good and bad. The bad first... This thing is going to take much more time then to finish and Schott is insulating itself from financial risk. The good... This thing is so close to being done that nobody care about the current PPS and they are tight lipped about there next move. I just hope that this joint venture with Schott isn't somebody owing somebody else a favor. My opinion.
It really hasn't been that long since the Schott partnership. I'm hopeful by the end of October we hear something. That around six months since the announcement. If we don't hear anything by then or we need lab proto 4,5,6 etc... Then I'll join you at the edge of the cliff and we can jump off together...lol my opinion:).
Hopefully TDCP gets the ball rolling. All my good boose money is tied up in this, have to drink the cheap stuff till this thing hits. Hears to drinking the good stuff:)
So... When the Vulcans land and tell us to " live long and prosper" would that be a good indicator to load the boat for TDCP? I'm looking for a good re entry point?:)
Thx again.
Your point on the R/S makes sense. I would think that the technology would have to be complete first though. Otherwise share price would fall again as it did last time and dilution would continue to pay for operating expenses. What would your opinion be on the timing of a R/S given the new rule? Thx on advance. I'm not familiar with the new rule.
Well said! And it is my intention to get back in, never meant any bashing of the stock. Just don't understand blindly hanging on when this is clearly going lower. I watched this thing go up and down many times thinking " this is it we are going to the moon" and missed my chance of making money and instead lost thousands because of the reverse split and delayed timelines. Again, I think this will succeed. Just don't want to get wiped out again waiting for it to happen. I think timing your buy now is crucial. My opinion.
Well said! This exactly what I think is going to happen. Ultimately will succeed, disaster for existing shareholders. My opinion.
Your argument is irrational... Not trying to be rude... Time is of the essence.
How can you say.."time is on their side"? Just the contrary I think. Longer it takes.... More money spent and dilution.... Not quite understanding your rational on that one.
I just worry that they haven't finished. Hopefully you are correct. It would be good to hear that technology is complete and sound. At some point you have to shoot the engineer and bring your product to market, otherwise you will never finish. I'm an engineer by the way. You always want to make it better. But you need a business guy to step in and draw the line and say we can sell this.
Thank you for the info. I was not there and your take is greatly appreciated. Anyone care to moment on this?
I agree mostly. I'm struggling with non-dilutive funding. The pcast grant is chump change in my opinion. We need a much larger grant and I understand that they are working on it. We will dilute more until that happens. And why do we need enhancement projects if proto3 was the last prototype and the product platform was to tailored toward customer applications. Sounds like the technology is not done above and beyond the glass. Sounds a little screwy. Do think I'm off base?
Thank you for the reply Razor. That was about my take on it as well. I will re-enter once thus stabilizes a bit. Hopefully saving some of my decimated position. Thx again
Hi Razor, you seem to be the voice of reason. Care to share your opinion on the meeting? Thanks in advance. Would you also share your opinion on where the PPS will settle until next news? I understand if you don't. Thx in advance.
Yep... But their forward looking statements are all we have to hold onto. They need to get one correct or close one of these days to inspire investor confidence.. My opinion.
I agree, can and have been misleading. Question is on purpose to inspire hope or incompetence? I'm not trying to be harsh, just real. I think I've been on the Kool aid for too long and just woke up. If it wasn't for Schotts involvement, I wouldn't consider buying again. I still think they are a game changer.
I agree. It would be nice to understand how much they need to finish and operate. I imagine this is in the financial reports somewhere. Could someone decipher this number? Thx in advance. It would be good to understand if the 1 million projected funding this year will cover the operating expenses or only make a dent. This would give us some idea of the dilution coming.
I agree with you 100 percent and that's my point/complaint. The image material was the issue last October. Really don't know when this will be hurdled. I believe with Schott, they will figure it out. Until that happens PPS tanks. I will by back in but, am looking to not get destroyed by falling PPS and R/S again. Who knows what financing deals they will make to keep this afloat. They've been talking about funding for years. Agreed, outlook on funding looks better now but, nothing concrete yet. I just don't trust their technical or funding projections anymore. My opinion.
Ok ... My mistake... How complete are we?
Because it's getting difficult to believe what they tell you. It's just been dragging out too long. Every time you see light at the end of the tunnel... The tunnel gets extended significantly. Their strategy keeps changing. First we needed trade show proto. Then we needed three of them...then the third one was supposed to be done last October. Then they needed a little more time.... Now we are at 50 percent complete? I think we were looking for anything concrete.... Anything? I agree that Schottt adds a different dynamic to this but 15 years? Personally been around for 6-7 here. We are just getting tired and are getting tired of BS or miscalculations what have you.
I sympathies with you but, emotion is not the answer. They haven't done anything illegal. Just piss poor timelines. Pull your funding as I have and look for a better opportunity to flip this for a profit or a different investment. It's a penny stock and has extremely high risk for loss. I have found mass amounts of bourbon calms my nerves. My opinion. Life is too short to get twisted up by this. I think eventually they will succeed . Find a better entry point and let everyone else fund this experiment.
I agree that they will eventually get there but, what happens in the mean time? More dilution. They have no money, no contracts, no working proto three. PPS will fall and most likely will R/S to clean up the share structure. Yes, they have to let us know but PPS will plummet on that news. I will watch for awhile and get back in later. My opinion.
I think everyone's heartburn here has to do with the inability to adhere to timelines. The r/s destroyed anybody long. Some if us averaged down in anticipation of something concrete. With no workable proto 3 or contracts in place, dilution will continue. I've been in since 2008. I escaped today with what is left and will be looking to renter dub penny one more time. As annoying as blue horse posts were, it looks like he was correct . I will keep the faith but will wait to renter at lower PPS. Good luck!
Where do you see 20 million?
Ya..Wish I had more funds at the time to accumulate more shares at that price. Just accumulated a little more today. It bottomed enough for me. Time to go UP!!!!!!
Agreed, would be nice to see this steadily climb now. I was surprised to see the run end so soon. I think great things will be happening soon. The recent news inspires alot of confidence. Nice to see you back out of the pit of depair.
Select all or none (AON)
Agreed. When the company has something worth while to say...They will say it. I doubt they are happy with the PPS.
I don't think a public and negative article is going to help us here.
jail may be a stretch but, there are repercussions. Agreed, suspension in trading is one of them.
LIABILITY FOR MISLEADING STATEMENTS
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(d) of section 15 of this title, which statement was at the
time and in the light of the circumstances under which it was
made false or misleading with respect to any material fact, shall
be liable to any person (not knowing that such statement was false
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that such statement was false or misleading. A person seeking to
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flafylersfan...My only point was that if they lied there would be repercussions. I haven't seen anything in the PR's that indicates that they have lied. Projections are things that may or may not come true. Statements such as this is done or that is done are facts. Not sure what your point is. Good Luck
If that were the case...They will go to jail. PR's clearly state two Prototypes are finished. Current grant money was awarded based on what they showed...Grant money is to go to the first product platform. These statements can be proven or disproven by what they have to show. If they lie in the PR's...they are in trouble.
3DIcon's CEO Mark Willner Issues Letter to Shareholders, September 12, 2013
Lab Proto 3 is already 80
times brighter than Lab Proto 2 and 2,000 times brighter than Lab Proto 1.
Sounds like it works but, are still testing display materials and evaluating supply chain of the materials for commercialization.
Product Platform 1 was the project we proposed to the State of
Oklahoma for the $300,000 grant that was recently awarded to the Company.
Not sure if this is enough to fund this build but, given money is in place for this project is promising.
With respect to federal government grant funding, we are pursuing several opportunities in
parallel. The first opportunity is up to $3M in funding that may be available to the Company
through three Department of Defense Rapid Innovation Funds (Air Force, Army, and Navy). We
are in the process of writing white papers for these opportunities, which is the first step in their
process.
This update was posted Sept. 12th. So, we should be three months down the road of this process. Not sure how long this takes but, hopefully things are moving along.
The representative from DHS indicated that the TSA desperately need better visualization technology
for passenger and luggage screening and that both TSA and DHS are open to providing significant funding (potentially outside of the SBIR program) to accelerate development of technologies like CSpace®.
Maybe there is some opportunity to move things along a bit faster through this avenue.
Lastly, we have begun to explore funding opportunities within three
of the four ARPAs (Advanced Project Research Agencies). These include DARPA (defense),
IARPA (intelligence), and HSARPA (homeland security). All three organizations appear to have
open or near term solicitations that may be a fit for CSpace®. I will have more to say about this
once we complete our assessment of these potential opportunities.
Mark said there would be an update after they have assessed the above avenues. Maybe this is why we haven't heard much for awhile? Maybe the quiet period is due to partnerships/negotiations. We can only hope.
OK... No news is good news??? I don't know. I like the board and want some coversation. Looking at old news releases...maybe something there?
3DIcon Corporation Announces Senior Management Changes
Mark Willner, has stepped down and will assume a strategic consulting role with the Company, focusing his efforts on the commercialization of and business development for the Company's patented 3D display technology, CSpace®.
Does this mean we have something to commercialize and is Victor Keen just managing day to day stuff??
3DIcon Hires Federal Business Development Expert
Under Doug's leadership we plan to identify and create federal funding opportunities for 3DIcon to accelerate development and commercialization of our CSpace® volumetric 3D display technology. In addition, Doug will be helping us secure key relationships with large government prime contractors and end users within the Department of Defense and the civilian agencies."
OK...Looks like we are still looking for funding opportunities and are targeting the DOD.
Mark Willner, a business development consultant to the Company and Chairman of the Business Advisory Board of 3DIcon said, "I have known Doug for many years and we have worked for and with some of the same companies. Doug has a great track record of success in obtaining federal funding for technology companies like 3DIcon. Doug will enable 3DIcon to take its place among other 3D display technology companies that have received significant federal funding based on technologies that are higher risk and less capable than CSpace®. Doug's federal sector efforts will be a perfect complement to my ongoing business development efforts within the industrial and commercials sectors."
Looks like Mark brought him unboard and is working on something..
Insight Media Founder Joins 3DIcon Technology Advisory Board
Victor Keen, CEO of 3DIcon, said, "We are pleased to have Chris join the team at 3DIcon. We know he will provide invaluable insight to the display industry and in particular, to the 3D display space. The company founded by Chris, Insight Media, is a leader in providing the display industry with updated information, industry trends and market research."
Ok...Does this mean we have something to market or are close enough to start the marketing strategy?
Mr. Chinnock added, "I have spent most of my career in the display industry and recently in the 3D space with my efforts in founding 3D at Home Consortium. I have visited with the key management at the Company, have viewed their prototype and believe they are in the forefront of developing a true volumetric, 3D experience for commercialization. I look forward to working with the team at 3DIcon and adding my industry experience to their efforts."
Key thing here...He has viewed the prototype. Question is which one? Are we ready? Is the lack of news good news????Could be...Hell I don't know.
Razor, Ellery, Mogus...Thoughts???
Shark Attack and Eggie have good points. I believe this will rise as well. I agree with Eggie that a reverse split would not be good. Dilution needs to stop first, otherwise we will all be robbed again. Reverse split would be fine once dilution stops and price is stabilized. Probably won't happen until commercialization or a customer funded devolpment agreement comes to pass.
I'm not sure if I understand your point. If the prototype was finished, why not say so to drive up the PPS and the value of their business? Why would funding be needed to make a deal? No offense, just trying to understand.
I guess we are Optimists. I agree with your take. The technology has so much upside if they can ever get it working. It keeps us all coming back. We will do well or learn hard lessons. I understand this and keep after it anyways. If this thing takes off and I'm not unboard...I think i will lose my mind. Been in since 2008. I have other investments that are doing Ok to keep me afloat.
I think a dollar in a month and a half is a stretch. I would be happy with the completion of Proto3 and the product platforms so we can sell this thing. I also believe this will take off but they were delayed due to the display material. I am an engineer and I know things like this take time. They don't have the resources to shotgun 12 different display materials all at one time to find out which is best. They have to be very accurate in their selection due to a lack of financial resources. I'm waiting for my money to clear my trading account and am loading up one more time. Call me crazy...dreaming.. whatever... I won't miss the boat.
Look like you might have bought at the bottom.