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Why BOYCOTT NOKIA? -
They make me sick. I want to throw up when I see their name.
Why BOYCOTT NOKIA #6
NOKIA is stunting American job growth by refusing by not paying American companies that could otherwise grow and thrive, if NOKIA would live up to their obligations.
Why BOYCOTT NOKIA? #5
Stop supporting the Finish welfare state at the expense of American jobs and innovation. Finland’s largest employer, aside from the government, is NOKIA. By supporting NOKIA, you enable a foreign welfare state while NOKIA saps our State and Federal resources with frivolous lawsuits and denies much needed resources that could be spent in other ways.
Why BOYCOTT NOKIA? #4
Anti American tax payer practices – Clogging courts, making US tax payers fund a legal system that was meant to level playing field, but in actuality NOKIA is using the system tilt the playing field in their favor, bring the system to its knees.
Why BOYCOTT NOKIA? #3
NOKIA is a bully. With its money and power, NOKIA is attempting to corner the lucrative cell phone patents rights, and is effectively using mafia-like tactics from letting smaller, more nimble companies into the marketplace.
Why BOYCOTT NOKIA? #2
Anti-America practices – NOK is attempting to rob America companies of their patent rights. Admittedly, NOK wants to cap royalties for inventions at 5%.
Why BOYCOTT NOKIA? #1
Anti-competitive practices - Whoever said corporations are productive entities? NOKIA threatens to put American companies out of business by using the legal systems to avoid paying contractual obligations and forcing American companies to use their valuable assets in fighting drawn out legal battles.
I'm sorry, I haven't been here in a while. This Delaware filing that extends NOK delay tactics into 2008 or there abouts is for what issue. I can't keep it all straight as things move so slowly, it seems if you fall asleep for 6 months nothing's changd. Is this what's left of Lanham act? Doesn't the court have a say in the amount of time, money and effort is spent. Aren't our tax paying dollars spent on this to have NOK try to bend a US company over and then come stick it to us in our own courts.
Lawyers - Let me ask you all something. Would it be legal, or would one get into legal waters to start a website called:
BOYCOTT NOKIA? base on their anti-competitive stall tactics, their blantant use of the court system to.
Let me tell you all something. I think a website like that might work.
Another thing would be a really well written email outlining the issues. Send it to all of your friends and them send to all of their friends, have this email circling the globe. And to bakc it up, publish the letter on a website with a link in email for people to find on their own. Have a guest book where people enter their vote against NOK and vow never to buy a NOK product so long as they behave this way.
In all honestly, seeing this behavior by NOK sickens me and to see that one line in there about not even being willing to negotiate tells it all.
Wow, not following IDCC was actually better for my health.
Ghors,
Can you clarify something for me, please?
You wrote, "This is a docket which allows lots of time to develope the case. Hence it will require many depositions, millions of documents, etc, etc. If accepted the court is recognizing that this case will take longer than usual and will allow a more liberal and longer discovery period. If accepted the court is recognizing that this case will take longer than usual and will allow a more liberal and longer discovery period."
When you say, "If accepted," do you mean the the Court of Appeals, like the Supreme Court, can agree to hear the case or they can say that they don't want to hear the case? If that is true and the court does not agree to hear the case, what happens?
Thank You for your help!
Nok/Samsung 2g money is already completely factored in on the stock.....for all practical purposes they have won.
Idcc stock price already has the 250m factored in. Where do you think the stock would be if they had lost the arb? One time money events do not effect long term stock price on Wall Street. Sustainable earnings is what counts in the long haul.
Look at Sunw when they got the big money from Microsoft...nothing.
The market isn't getting it, so why don't you educate all of us as to why this is SO darn important.
I stand corrected, but the rest of stands as is.
Perhaps you think H.C. selling 100,000 shares is not related to the huge haircut we're taking since he sold? I think it's pretty obvious one follows the other unless you can spin or apologize for or somehow disregard the significance of it. Why would he sell like a 1/3 of his shares if he didn't think things were going well?
I hope H.C gets fired VERY soon by the board and they resrict any further sales by him for several years, the get-rich-shortsighted-don't-think-about-anyone-else-but-himself-executive, if you can call him an executive.
Great stat. Do you happen to know if they are 5th in phone sales or just 5th in overall manufacturing behind Arima and Quanta.
It would be nice to have this info in a Press Release the industry that doesn't seem to quite capture the significance of IDCC and their Asian partners could get a better prespective.
Perhpas you could help IDCC in their PR efforts
HTC will be IDCC's 4th largest paying Licensee in year end 2005 (excluding Nokia and Samsung)..and yet they are only the 5th largest ODM in Taiwan, behind Arima and Quanta!
Great find. There are some dots to consider connecting.
Sometimes I wonder if big companies give a hoot about what others think of them. Hubris is hubris. Microsoft cared nothing of the US Justice department taking them to court. They apologized for nothing. They ended up paying through the nose, but they gave the Justice system the birdy whenever they could. Like Microsoft, NOK is full of hubris, and I think they care nothing for the ICC or, for that matter, what most any governments thinks about their methods, ethics, or morals. JMHO.
Think of it as spring coiling down with every bit of good news, every bit of improved credibility, every new license. Each quarter when we get more and more recurring revenue and build better credibility, and when the flow of licenses begins to trickle in on a regular basis, IDCC will begin to crack through this glass ceiling.
All this tightens the spring, raises the potential and makes IDCC ready to explode one day.
Today was a pretty big down day on the market. IDCC is one of few stocks that ended in the green.
I believe the makret can't punish IDCC forever with their wait and see attitude. I expect more licenses soon. The flow of licenses ought to be picking up as 3G picks up. The history of 2G is getting to be behind IDCC
I'm really looking forward to the day when forward looking events will have a positive effect on the share price and the market won't keep taking a wait and see attitude.
Upcomming 2G potential: NOK, LU, SAM, Panasonic
Upcomming 3G potential: NOK, LU, SAM, ERICY, Panasonic, other ODMs.
It's quite likely that the majority of the positive events listed above will be resolved in the next few months.
It does amaze me that the market doesn't get it yet, but it will.
If only NOK would sue themselves in Judge Ward's court.
Eight (8) more days!!! Come on IDCC!!!
Don't you mean 11 days? What is coming in 6 days?
Samsung would be a dream come true. It would send the stock into price territory we haven't seen it a while. It may also keep us out the the sub 20 area forever, unless the stock price splits.
Samsung, imo, would be the inflection point that would keep all shorts, mm's, bad press, crooked analysists from affecting the stock price.
It would also be a great blow to NOK's efforts at snubbing IDCC and the royality cap, that I think forward looking events may even start showing up in IDCC's price.
We may even start to see some of the kind of appreciation that makes watching stocks a pleasure.
We have 11 more business days . . .
OT: Dave
Yeah, I think Ground Hog Day is not only a good analogy for how I feel about IDCC, but is a really great movie.
With yesterday and today's price action, I wonder if there was some other rumor floating out there. It feels like that to me. I'd like to think KYO was the cause, but I'm more often wrong than right.
Other than being the chairperson, Brien doesn't seem to submit contributions himself.
Does anyone recognize another IDCC employee who may have made contribution on behalf of IDCC?
http://www.ieee802.org/16/tge/#Contributions
sjratty,
Thanks for giving us your views and opinions. Based on your positive take on the court and the judge, I like this guy.
Now, if only IDCC could sue NOK in the rocket docket.
The Kyocera deal is moving the stock price, IMO, along with the antisipation that IDCC will come through with another significant deal announcement before the end of this month. I think that there are more deals than two on the table and that is why IDCC Bill was comfortable allowing Fagan to say two (at least I hope so).
I also hope that this is finally the turning point for IDCC. The volume was decent, but not great. The price action was great.
The ridiculous valuation for IDCC when they have NOK, SAM, LU, Panasonic and perhaps another deal like Kyocera on the table boggles the mind.
If IDCC mangement can build confidence by coming through with another significant license, Kyocera, then the market will begin to reward IDCC for forward looking events like NOK, SAM and LU settlements because all of those bode well for even more of a domino effect for 2 and 3G and a furhter price rise.
If the confidence is there, greed will follow and the price will begin tracking up.
Still sleeping with one eye open waiting for thise next license.
Perhaps IDCC should be paying Kyo
I know IDCC's style is understated and non traditional and the way to promote yourself and succeed is being humble and shy. No doubt that IDCC has the goods and being understated and mysterious will pay off when the market begins to see the potential and and the sheep begin to speculate upon how high IDCC can go.
Kyo agrees to give IDCC $50 m, shares up 3.1%, IDCC to get $50 m and shares up 2.7%.
OT (hrbart): I take exception to that statement, I haven't posted much for a couple of days. Besides, I'm not here to say 'I told you so' as you think I am. I'd love it if you could tell me I'm wrong about being cynical about IDCC and you can tell me 'I told YOU so.' So there you go. If I stick around long enough, maybe you'll have the pleasure of telling me that my cyncial side is wrong.
BTW - OT is generally used when you don't have anything to say about the subject at hand (IDCC) and you are using this board as a social club.
Another Plus from our latest announcement is we have heard no more Whinning from "Capitansdog" today. I believe the next couple weeks should be very interesting & Profitable!!
Jim L keep up the Eye exercises & drink lot's of carrot juice hopefully there will be Lot's of good reading coming up!! The best to you! Hrbart
Great news. I'd suspect that we will start seeing the strength in the stock that we saw just after the announcement at the cc. A little credibility has been built.
Keep this up and IDCC turns the corner. I just hope that announcing two meant that they had more than two and they can begin a steady lineup of announcements.
This is no Hopon and that is a big relief. I would hope that they can announce an even bigger catch next time.
This is a ignificant CDMA feather in IDCC's hat.
And this is a significent 2.5 million a quarter revenue stream which represents about 8% of IDCC total quarterly income.
Building an end-to-end architecture that supports fixed mobile convergence
Posted: 08 Sep 2005
http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800376258_499486.HTM.2987c7f3
By Deepak Kataria, Agere Systems Dimitris Logothetis, Ericsson
Network Systems Designline
The concept of convergence emerges from telecom service providers' need to find new revenue streams, reduce their operating expenses and simultaneously invest in future-proof network architectures and technologies. Some service providers are looking for a multitude of new services including mobile and fixed access, while others seek only a combination of TV, Internet access and telephony . . .
http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800376258_499486.HTM.2987c7f3
Radioactive: What's next for 3G?
Silicon.com - UK
http://networks.silicon.com/mobile/0,39024665,39152056,00.htm
This summer has seen a rash of announcements by European mobile operators regarding HSDPA (high speed downlink packet access). This technology promises to deliver the 3G experience that subscribers have been waiting for and highlights the limitations of the
existing implementations of the WCDMA technology.
HSDPA has been so widely anticipated in the operator community that some, such as Telfort in the Netherlands, chose to delay their 3G launches until the upgrade was ready to deploy.
For more . . . check out the link.
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Ericsson Throws Weight Behind 3.5G Via HSDPA
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/sep/1179639.htm
By ROBERT LIU
TMCnet Wireless and Technology Columnist
Swedish handset-maker Ericsson announced Wednesday that it is investing $1 billion in China’s cellular market over the next five years and is throwing its weight behind High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) technology, a mobile telephone protocol that’s considered an interim step for CDMA to evolve into the 4G wireless realm.
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Global 3G subs top 50 million
http://www.telecoms.com/marlin/30000000461/ARTICLEVIEW/mp_articleid/20017309878/mp_pubcode/MTEL?proc...
Telecoms.com News
07 September 2005
James Middleton, james.middleton@informa.com
Industry association the UMTS Forum today announced that subscriptions to 3G networks have now passed the 50 million mark, with UMTS/WCDMA users now standing at approximately 33 million worldwide, an increase of over 15% since end-June.
Correspondingly, subscriptions to 1x EV-DO services now exceed 17 million worldwide, with users mainly contributed by South Korea and Japan. Japan also remains the world leader in WCDMA network subscriptions, as of end August there were more than 16.5 million Japanese WCDMA customers, representing just over 50% of the global 3GSM user base.
Italy ranks second in terms of subscriber numbers, with just over 6.75 million customers on its four UMTS networks, while the UK ranks as the world's third largest UMTS market with just over 4 million customers.
OT: art - never said anything that you attribute to me. My question to you is HOW LONG? HOW LONG is long enought to wait. I guess everyone has their own tolerance for pain when it comes to IDCC>
Absolutley amazing insight.
Everyone here complains that IDCC doesn't communicate enough and now that they did (in a way that I think is very dangerous) and I suggest that they should communicate about their promises if they won't be able to keep them, no one thinks IDCC ought to communicate about that.
Come September 30 and no announcement, I'll bet anyone here that IDCC will have lost over $100 million in market cap if they failue to come through.
This promise is a big deal. You have to remember that they didn't have to say anything. That they did a year ago or so and failed to come through and that they are doing it again now, is simply amazing. Let me tell you IDCC lost a lot of credibility when they did it last time.
Faiiry tales have so much truth in them. IDCC can't be the boy who cried wolf.
Amazing to me that no one wants IDCC to communicate by the end of the quareter if they will be that boy who cried wolf. No one will every believe a thing this company says if they don't learn how to communicate.
Gee Wiz.
Paheka,
I'm kind of a strange fellow. I'm long on IDCC and have been on this board since it was on Raging Bull. But I don't think I'm couching anything. I've said some pretty cynical things about IDCC today and in the past.
I romanced myself into the stock in part by all the great knowledge on this board and the very many good people who know and share their views. This is a unique board in that the long term knowledge in IDCC is probably greater here than you will find with any analyst or for that matter with many people who actually work at IDCC itself. I think you'd be amazed.
But I think I'm wary the perpetual wait, perpetual spring, and if any new commers are looking to invest, I think they should have a balanced view. The potential seems real, but you have to ask yourself why some have been here for 20 years or so. The potential has been there for that long.
Part of my not leaving the stock is the idea that I will be a tremondous fool for getting out before the potential hits. OR I will have been an idiot for getting into the stock in the first place.
This is a terrific experience in learning about Internet community. Seemingly you can trust what you read by honest people, but like all people, hope spring eternal, you see what you want to see, and to wait for Godot is a difficult road to hoe.
OT: LOL. That means I can sleep 'til nonn everyday so I can be well rested to start posting at that time, but then on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I'll be sure to get up early so I can wring my hands worrying about the announcements.
IF noon is early for you, I think you need to go to bed earlier.
I know that calling it the way it is isn't too popular with those in fantasy land.
My point, and I'm sure you didn't miss it, but chose the more professional tone for response, is that IDCC needs to communicate, especially if they want to communicate predictions of two new licensss when they have announced two in almost a year. It is kind of unbelievable that they could do two now and it would be quite welcome.
ranger - what's your point about 23 days?
Anyway I count 17 business days. 17 days to announce.
art - me sell and admit I've been a complete and total idiot for staying in this stock for so long. I'm staying through a few upcomming resolutions and then reassess: NOK, LU, Two new licensees.
Hopefully this stock doesn't remain the Roger Dangerfield of the wireless industry or the proof that Murphy's Law is IDCC's fate.