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this sucks i have played forward split and dividend plays for a while now and only a couple other times have i seen the trading volume of this one with no movement.
don't get me wrong i don't hold any pink anymore and i am not bashing, i am just saying when these many shares are traded and MM's are blamed i get worried.
is at all possible that all the front loading longs are the ones making the money here? I understand the potential the marketing campaign soon to come and all the positives that have been made here, but nearly all split/divy plays double pop. This one isn't budging on the high volume days.
(edit) this is a daily chart not by the minute or 5 minute
the most frustrating part so far is yesterdays volume was strong. go to ameriturd and pull up a 10 day chart and it shows no volume whatsoever. something is not right here and it is eating at me.
Call it manipulation call it what you will a stock does not trade the volume it did yesterday and drop off the map. Too many peoople would be watching for any tick in any direction to pick up more or sell out today.
that tweet was in response to a tweet by houston trader sending out the contest link to a ton of people.
well this surely wasn"t the morning volume I was expecting today.... any idea on what's up??
I am in for a mil lets all have a fun ride up. been watching this one for a while.
i just want my buy at the ask to fill.
they won't be back in full force until A) SS offers some sort of objection slash plan of action. Or B) The trading week immediately preceeding DEC 1st. Until then certain members will be here to hold down the "fort" for lack of a better term.
total debt has only a partial bearing on total liabilities. Think if you will of a home loan. Wmi holds a note. They got this note from paying the previous owner of the house you live in. You have a debt of the purchase price of the house. Wmi has a liability or risk for your yet fully unpaid loan. Or wmi leases equipment office space cars and various other items. BK is based on A>L not A>DEBT
no problem. On a side note. I am in no mood to search 8 month old posts but trying to find the asset list to prove A>L was the big issue. Now all of a sudden we entered BK protection for no reason. It has already been found and argued that we could not disprove the fact that we needed an additional 8 bn to achieve said A>L. I like you all but we aren't all new here. I agree we got robbed we got stolen for a price unbefitting a pinky scam. Please don't turn this STOCK into a pinky.
if you review my posts from today you will see a link from tdameritrade via prnewswire that will offer you further instruction. As many people are having issues with this it should be stickied or at least counted as news.
all i am saying is people will have their moments and say things they think are justified. We all make our own choices in life. For that matter do ou believe that a majority of people who hav bought in here due to those hopes are feeling good. Many people could have a few choice words for a few posters here for creating that hope. Speaking of settlement smoking guns and hidden this and hot doc that.
We all make our own beds let us all lay in them and come what may.
let him go mehedi D is not the first person he has tried to assert himself to. Conflicting points of view and logic based arguments are what has grown this board and brought this case and all the travesty to the forefront of peoples minds for over 2 years now.
When the time comes let the truth be known or covered up. Anger and intimidation hold no quarter nor are they rewarded without just retribution.
when one pumps too hard they are all prone to momentary bursts of uncontrollable rage. Look at Chris Benoit.
nice voodoo what a way to lose all credibility. At one point in time i would have trusted what you had to offer but to come out with that TOU voilation in such distasteful manner was absolutely absurd. Where are the mods at as D is just offering his own opinion and interpretations.
Well oh well back to lurking glad to see the flippers with their 300 dollar bank roll are still hanging out.
Since ameritrade is so good at not posting news about this case it was nice to see this come accrossed the screen today.
http://research.tdameritrade.com/public/stocks/news/story.asp?docKey=100-308p2981-1
i call BS if it wasn't for the republican "no vote" campaign and their "free market" system our housing market and banking industry would not be in this mess
I Don't presume to know what or why they watch i believe it has to do with following leads without much legwork.
i can say i wish hochbum would have billed the same thing because the mis/information on this board is very convincing and stands to create a major uprising in this nation if this ruling goes the wrong.
Ok so i only have one more thing to say and this one is forgotten about. And by forgotten about i suggest the holders hold the sellers sell and everyone close the book. Wait and see what comes out. Nothing we do or say has made a world bit of difference and so many people have lost countles hours to this cause.
Why is it that our illustrious site the one stock message board with more growth than any other for the past 3 years doesn't cover any big board stocks?? Maybe because they are less likely influenced by posters on a message board. People don't buy symbol XYZ on the nasdaq based on advfn statements.. Rather based on world market conditions.
just MHO set forth as food for thought.
lol it was my web browser on my phoone shows them and thats what i got. Sorry :)
ok i have been quiet her for a long time because every time i speak i am reprimanded or told to sell if I don't like it. Fact of the matter is we sit back and listen to all the minds of the board instilling hope passion and excitement for every new omnibus. So here we are at the precipice of the newest letdown in this incredibly insane letdown of a BK case. Thousands of people have been given a chance to be a part of something big gain back some of their pension or just gamble a months rent. We all knew the risks and possible rewards. Now for the meat. Uzual thank you for all the support and actually feeling emotion. Those who say this isn't dead cuz it isn't trip 0's thats not how it works. Today was a serious accumulation day for one purpose only. Short covering to start again in the morning. Let's get realistic. No amount of spinning or arguing the semantics of the examiner report is going to change the fact that we have been mislead by mainly the words and research on this board among others. .70 to .30 was a shake .30 to .12 was a shake. This is a shake. I have said it before my shares were bought and won't be sold but to the fishes of the world stow it. Your words shape the emotions of too many people wether you like it or not. Quit costing people money and post facts and dd please not conjecture.
dshngmike1978 nov 15 2:05 PM EST
Bruc my buddy. take a look at JBII cleanslated to the pinksheets as of tomorrow could be a nice spike play. workin my arse off here. but going good.
agreed other than Arizona and a few other packagers nearly all containers in a convenience store cooler are plastic.....
Just saying is all. Noone complained when Windex sold refills in plastic bottles without the spray nozzle people buy them everyday.
8/16/2010 9:15a.m. est
then with that assumption GO4 is it safe to take some off the table and wait it out.
Litterally it has been stated that this may wilt and wither for a while until
(A) settlement announced and we can all chase
(B) true valuation is established via examiner circa sept 7
(C) super rumor leaks by frontloaders
IMO i am just trying to get to the heart of the matter here.
if I can make 5% over the next month doesn"t it make sense to try to do that and bring it back here to WAMU when cards are closer to fall in line. and if it is missed at least a core position is held???
thank you voodoo for all your warm wishes
LMAO
isn't WM now Waste MNGT.....
now that"s funny
Nothing contained
in this paragraph 7 shall prohibit the Debtors or any other of the Parties subject to requests from
(a) objecting to requests on any ground or (b) seeking a protective order for any reason
whatsoever.
Nothing is as good as you write it my friend and in the law therte is alway provisions for objections as in the one you suggested earlier.
That being said I hope we get what we deserve and honestly a run monday as I will be glad to remove myself of a prrtion of my position for other plays as this one will take time to finish up.
5 % over the next month allows me that much more as this will drop before mehedi's predictions come true. I am in jhd's camp in saying this will wilt for a while before it gains traction. IMO
examiners work plan still needs to be approved at the AUG 10 on=mnibus from what I read and it needs to follow dual track with the PLAN process.
edit...IMO
looking for honest answers not arguments as I feel will come from this post.
I wouldn"t throw BATSON to the side just yet. He has been examiner on the 2 largest examiner cases in American history up to those points and so far the only one to find something for the shareholders in what I have read so far.
and with 4000 pages of evidence I would want amnesty from subsequent lawsuits as well. That means he was able to dig deep enough to tick alot of people off.
more notes on Batson
In 2002, was appointed by the United States Department of Justice as Examiner for Enron Corp., and was authorized to investigate various aspects of a company that had filed one of the most visible and complex Chapter 11 cases in American history.
Served as the court-approved Examiner in the Southmark Corporation case in Dallas, Texas (a multimillion-dollar conglomerate restructured through a Chapter 11), which, until Enron, was the largest examination in American history.
Represented the chairman and president of a chapter 11 debtor in negotiating aspects of a multibillion dollar reorganization plan that included a substantial return to shareholders.
http://www.alston.com/neal_batson/
In researching these names, how do you think COI will be defined in this situation??
Will it be any work done for or involving the parties involved, or just adversarial judgements??
I noticed that too RT. sounds good, now if the rest of the Market would agree.
Truly it takes time to get the Media to adapt to the good news and post it for the world to see. If and when that sentiment reaches the retail investor maybe then could we see something.
On a side note I informed my father that we won the Examiner motion yesterday and he yelled at me. " I don't give a crap. it is what it is and we won't know until it is over"
I think his words speak volume as to what the world feels about this one.
since in large point it was the illustrious members of this board and their DD that have brought us this far ( the confidence in the system, appointment of EC,retention of Sussman, and appointment of Examiner pending)
Has anyone began in earnest a list of Examiner choices favored by the Shareholders to be forwarded to Willingham/SS?
I have seen names thrown out, but I think with the incredible skill of our DD Team we can voice a strong opinion and find someone suitable and non conflicted.
I would be inclined to say no as their info would be the most telling and comprehensive as to who and what and just how solvent WAMU was before "bank run" and seizure. Their documents from 07-08 should prove the most reliable IMO
she wants examiner by MON
thanx fish and all in court keeping us informed.
What are THJMW's mannerisms at this moment?? this guy seems to be making a well pointed argument IMO
cooperation they have had to MUSCLE out of JPM.
backhanded attacks while trying to sound nice. HEHE this is good
Then IMO this is where everyones DD should be focused. I am not near as long as most here and readily admit it. But this is a damning piece of evidence that should be posted by the mods of this board when extrapolated from whoevers computer/flash drive. It is a public document that shows the TRUTH of what was transferred.