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this is going no where. that was just another major fluff/pump attempt.
forcasts
projections
predictions
nonsense.
zero HARD NUMBERS. more carrot on a stick, thats what we got.
to compare this to other stocks that took off on SUBSTANTIAL news is ridiculous.
how many preferred shares is it going to cost him to get on the show lol ???
this is just my opinion, as are all my posts, do your own research.
WHAT A JOKE
that show is broadcast on the internet, claiming 400 affiliates but listing none.
you have to laugh.
FORECASTED REVENUES
well i dont know about you, but on more than one occasion i have been upset with my weatherman because his FORECAST was wrong.
forecasted
projected
all very safe words, covered by SAFE HARBOR disclaimer
BASED OFF OF WHAT OUR COMPETITORS HAVE DONE.
so based off of what google has done i can start a search engine and expect billions within 3-5 years? correct?
THATS LIKE ME SAYING -
I FORECAST TODAY I MAKE A MILLION BUCKS, BASED OFF OF WHAT OTHER TRADERS HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
MORE FLUFF
IT STILL DOESNT SAY WHAT THEY HAVE MADE TO DATE, DOES IT?
EVEN MORE FLUFFY FLUFF!
this is just my opinion, as are all my posts, do your own research.
i do not respond to personal attacks.
i like to keep the debate on the subject at hand.
this is about guard dog.
both sides of the story. good and bad.
so for future reference, dont bother, i wont respond.
i dont think anyone
is questioning whether the service is legit. a chimp, if properly trained, could do this.
its the pattern of the ceo and his insiders that is in question.
the connections
the past dealings
the gagged ta
the lack of substance in the prs. pr after pr is released with nothing but double talk and information that is seriously lacking in substance.
buying companies that exist no where but on paper but are conveniently owned by his friends/associates and attorney
now the latest pr involving a company registered to his wife. how much is that going to cost the shareholders? he paying her in preferred shares? or cash from the shares he already sold to the market?
no revenue information
thats a pretty big list of problems and or issues dont you think?
anyone
can place a fraud alert in your credit file. call the 800 number on any bureau and ask to place one. they will gladly do so.
they will also tell you that you must renew every ninety days or it lapses. that is what you are paying for.
whether it is guard dog, life lock, whoever.
the service they provide is the convenience of not having to do it yourself every ninety days.
this still doesnt give any credibilty to the company or its business practices.
the last pr raises even bigger concerns than the ones i have. hiring your wifes start up to market the company? two days after the site went up? click on the links on that site. they simply say coming soon.
that means theoretically he could funnel "consulting" or other fees through his wifes company into his own pocket for doing nothing. just like he did with stephen carnes and mims. hired them with a big payday with investor cash then went belly up.
that isnt a concern to you?
this is just my opinion, as are all my posts, do your own research!
all this research, dd and what have you
i have been saying this for weeks now. i too am not a basher. i was thinking about buying this until i saw the players involved.
i was burned before by companies that these players were involved in.
its not that i want the investors to lose or i have anything to gain. i have been saying all along i dont own this stock nor do i plan on buying it cheap. how much cheaper can it get? its sub-penny for petes sake.
i just dont want them doing to others what they have allegedly done in the past. thats my interest here.
and good morning to all.
this is my OPINION, as are all my posts, do your own research!
the links -
obviously the pinksheets info can be found on pinksheets.com
the gagged transfer agent info i found can be found at -
http://www.thethirddimension.net/stocks/badcompanyactions.html#TA
that isnt the only site that has info on the ta being gagged as a red flag, but it offers a pretty good definition.
i hate doing other peoples research but made an exception to prove my point.
go to google or any other search engine. i find google or yahoo the best to do research. type "gagged ta" and you will see everything you need to know.
this is my OPINION. as are ALL my posts. do your own research!
reverse bashing
or cheerleading as i like to call it.
this is coming apart at the seams with each pr that is released and some want you to believe this is all business as usual.
well, my OPINION is that this isnt business as usual.
pinksheets ranks this as dark/defunct, which means -
"Indicates companies that are not able or willing to provide disclosure to the public markets - either to a regulator, an exchange or Pink Sheets. Companies in this category do not make Current Information available via Pink Sheets News Service, or if they do, the available information is older than six months. This category includes defunct companies that have ceased operations as well as 'dark' companies with questionable management and market disclosure practices. Publicly traded companies that are not willing to provide information to investors should be treated with suspicion and their securities should be considered highly risky".
i found this definition of a gagged ta on line as well -
" transfer agent is a company's means of managing shareholder records, issuing and canceling stock certificates, and processing investor mailings. Some companies can act as their own transfer agent, but most often, especially with penny stocks, the job is outsourced to companies specializing in the business. Transfer agents are normally the most accurate, and often the only way of finding the current O/S, A/S, and float for a penny stock. Some will require a fax with shareholder details to retrieve the information, others simply a phone call or email. This type of transparency is desirable among investors.
A "Gagged" transfer agent is one which has been instructed by the company they are working for to not release information, such as the share structure. This is NOT a good situation. There is no legitimate reason for a company to gag their TA. It is almost always done to hide dilution. Without knowing the current number of outstanding shares, an investor has no idea if shares are being sold by the company. Concurrently, without knowing the number of authorized shares, the number of shares that can possibly be sold is not known either. Companies that practice this scam will often issue press releases, or other investor communication containing excuses for having the TA gagged. Unknowing investors will buy these up, and continue holding shares, or even buying more. We absolutely do not recommend touching a stock with a gagged TA, unless you are experienced with penny stocks, and it is purely a short term momentum play".
is it just me or does that definition sum up guard dog pretty well?
business as usual? it doesnt sound it to me. how about you?
this is just my OPINION, as are ALL my posts. do your own research!
ok, but this is once again
comparing apples and oranges.
this "company" is less than four months old on paper.
the website is two days old
all the cheerleaders here are experienced investors. if you lose you deserve to, either for not doing your research or getting greedy.
if i put one question mark in the inexperienced investors head to do a little more research before buying into this then my work here is done, no matter what direction they choose to go.
your trying to bail out the titanic with a tea spoon.
call the bureaus and ask to place a fraud alert in your file.
it free and easy to do.
the alert must be renewed every ninety days, as the bureaus are only required to hold it for ninety days.
your paying for the convenience of having them do this for you.
THIS IS A FACT.
wrong
sometimes people need help seeing the obvious.
with every pr that this company releases, the obvious gets bigger and bigger, and it seems some get blinder and blinder.
perhaps i get pleasure out of seeing uninformed people not get sucked in and ripped off by professional scammers? or at least putting the info out there for them to look at both sides of this and make an unbiased, informed decision? ever think about that?
just my opinion, do your own research.
fyi nob
anyone can put a fraud alert on your credit file if you give them your info.
its actually pretty easy.
you have to renew it every ninety days with all 3 bureaus. most people dont or forget too.
thats the service you are paying for. the convenience of not doing it yourself.
just because they are providing the service doesnt mean this stock isnt a scam.
this is my opinion. do your own research
you wont find it because
the website was created two days ago.
check www.who.is, type in the web address and you will see
they even used the same anonymous registration service as some of the "acquisitions".
this company just happens to be registered in winter park florida as well.
registered, up and running in two days!
just in time for another bogus pr!
it mustve taken whomever created it all but 5 minutes to code it.
this is just my opinion. do your own research
the website nsdnetwork.com was created on 4-18-09
check www.who.is
Expiration Date: 2010-04-18
Creation Date: 2009-04-18
Last Update Date: 2009-04-18
registered anonymously through the same anonymous register as the bogus acquisitions.
i cant believe no one can see the writing on the wall here except for a few of us.
S-C-A-M
this is just my opinion. do your own research.
nope, two companies
check them out on sunbiz
both registered to TAMARA WATSON
both in winter park florida
both registered in december 08
seem confusing? well the web of deceit will always get tangled sooner or later.
this is just my opinion. do your own research.
national search directory
wasnt even a business until december 2008. check sunbiz.
neither was national savings directory either.
what is with these bogus company names?
guess where they are located? winter park florida. what a coincidence! so are the acquisitions!!!
tamara WATSON is the registered agent? hmmmmm, related to james?
these companies managed to put together a "marketing network" in 4 months? pullllease. bogus claim that can neither be proven or disproven.
my OPINION is this is nothing but a well orchestrated scam.
this is just my opinion, do your own research.
like i said last week
bogus all around.
revenues wont be released. at least not until they suck this puppy as dry as they can.
down 25% in one day? i guess some ivestors finally took a whiff of what watson and carnes have been shoveling to them.
i said this does down to .0013 or lower by the end of this week. i was called a basher and soon you will see i was right, or maybe wrong. who knows. afterall, this is just my opinion.
im sure they expected the bogus prs to fire up the investors as well. it didnt work. for a brief moment it sputtered up then turned around to go in the direction it should be going based off the prs.
bogus prs equals nose dive eventually.
this is just my opinion, do your own research.
kudos to you
not for agreeing with me, you did and you didnt.
rather for acknowledging there are issues with this company.
wrong
i never switched gears
i stand by all my posts
pinks can change their share structure real quick and without notice. you never know who's shares your buying or where they are coming from.
the ta is still gagged. why?
the po boxes are part of it.
this is only my opinion, as are all my posts, do your own research.
and it is just a coincidence
that they are identical prior to being acquired as well?
they even use the same clipart and models as well.
all could be billed to your phone prior to acquisitions too, another coincidence?
all coincidence. wow.
the same marketing firm? that happens to be run by larry powlicz? the guy who took over for stephen carnes? watson is carnes protege.
all three have various "ventures" run out of the same address in florida.
all three have the same attorney.i wonder why?
some of the registered owners of these sites have checkered pasts as well. look up jessica benshay. i did.
she worked at a lec phone billing company that went under because of fraud.
funny guard dog is using an lec isnt it? or the whole benshay thing is just another coincidence?
this is my opinion, as are all my posts, do your own research.
ok nob
we are on.
guard dog has historically flopped after every pr. i wonder why? substance, something the pr's seriously lack.
no pun intended
i say by next weeks end this is .0013 or lower
there is only a little over 3 million in volume on this.
odds are the only ones buying it are right here on this board.
when the dust settles from the last bogus pr this will settle right back where it belongs.
i wonder what is making the price go up on this?
it must be the quality of the paper po box acquisitions that have been made and the crafty "meaty" pr's
pump and dump, pump and dump.
once again, when their is a huge disclaimer on the end of each piece of information disseminated by the company, how can anyone trust that?
enough talk, lets see the results.
give the investors numbers on revenues, customer base.
have someone from one of the companies you are acquiring say a few words. give the investors something to bite into.
in short, show them the MONEY.
enough talk watson, show the investors your trust worthy and give them the beef. unless of course all theyre getting is the bun. words are worthless to your investors. they need something to see, touch and feel. so far he's given none of that.
touche
you got me on that. im not being a smarty pants, for lack of a better word, either.
i still think there are a lot of holes and inconsistencies in the guard dog story.
until the questions are answered i guess i will be a thorn in your side asking them.
this is just my opinion, as are all my posts, do your own research!
the reason the info is outdated is:
the company isnt telling anyone what is going on. very sneaky behavior.
you or i or anyone can also communicate directly with anyone, and say anything we want, especially when we have a disclaimer at the end of each statement we make that says it may or may not be true. we can spin any tales we want. we have a disclaimer!
you know what, i am registering a website. i am going to call it identity scammer llc. i am going to register it in nevada and get a po box and put my cell phone number up for customer support and investor relations line. it wont make money. i wont have any customers. heck, it will even be in the red as i have zero revenues but it will cost me mula to put it up and get it running.
how much do you think watson will give me for it?
this is just my opinion, as are all my posts, do your own research!
sorry nob, apples and oranges
when you compare walmart to guard dog.
walmart is a retailer selling goods and services from all over the world. a lot from china. dont forget india, pakistan, bangledesh, brazil. the list goes on.
walmart also has 100's of locations if not thousands. i can walk in and see what i invested in. walking into guard dogs address and seeing po box doesnt give me or anyone much confidence.
walmart has corporate offices. a physical address. tangible assets. when they buy a company, which they dont but if they did, say another retailer, said retailer has assets, products, a balance sheet lol . if they bought a company said company would bring something to the table.
said company would also have a spokesperson chanting the benefits of joining walmart, showing the investors: hey we are real. we joined walmart. its good for everyone involved!
where is the spokesperson for any of these acquisitions? wouldnt having someone from these companies say a few words reassure the investors? you cant tell me watson isnt aware of the skepticism floating around out there. that simple action would certainly quell a lot of dissent.
the comparison makes no sense to me.
not only that, but when someone comes looking for you to ask questions about your business practices you dont have to meet them face to face. its very convenient for a business like this to have po boxes.
i did look at the ibox.
they doubled their customer base, awesome! great!
to how many customers? not disclosed. fishy. like many things about this company, the investors are still in the dark. not a good sign. all the investors have is a lot of watsons words and no substance. nothing tangible or material. words are worth the air thats used to expel them, nothing.
and in regards to the revised revenues, dont be surprised if:
they are much worse than anticipated, or if you ever see them at all.
this is just my opinion, as are all my posts, do your own research!
good point. it is two plus years old.
google earth is older than that.
the list of businesses located at the address is current.
vanguard isnt among them. it is a po box.
newsflash
some are transparent and or reporting to pinksheets.com
pinksheets.com has several categories for pinks. there are plenty of pinks that are transparent.
guard dog is listed 2 steps away from caveat emptor, the worst rating. there are 8 steps in this rating system, guard dog lands in the number six spot, again, two steps away from the worst. anyone who doesnt believe that can go to pinksheets and look themselves.
i looked on pinksheets. the classification given to guard dog is: dark/defunct, with a stop! pinksheets, no information.
the information under this rating is as follows:
"Indicates companies that are not able or willing to provide disclosure to the public markets - either to a regulator, an exchange or Pink Sheets. Companies in this category do not make Current Information available via Pink Sheets News Service, or if they do, the available information is older than six months. This category includes defunct companies that have ceased operations as well as 'dark' companies with questionable management and market disclosure practices. Publicly traded companies that are not willing to provide information to investors should be treated with suspicion and their securities should be considered highly risky".
quick checklist
of the reasons guard dog would acquire these companies:
customer base: nope
brand recognition: nope
revenues: nope
assets: nope
investor interests: with none of the above, how can that be? nope!
hype/pump stock: yep!
reasons not to trust watson and company so far:
is the company transparent: nope, check pinksheets. badly rated
is share structure public info: nope, ta is gagged
reported revenues: nope, just promises of news to come
seems to me all we have is watsons word so far, and nothing else. and nothing of substance. all talk. just prs that may or may not be truthfull. we dont know.
thats the point
this company and its management leave nothing but question marks in their wake.
raising legitimate questions isnt bashing.
coming along and stepping on it when its down is bashing.
shedding light on the problems, as i see them, is far from bashing.
if someone takes that extra step in their dd because of something i said then no harm in that is there? or is there?
so your saying google maps is wrong? that must be what your saying because when i or anyone else who wants to try it types in these addresses you will get a strip mall, and a store that rents po boxes. whether its mail link, mail boxes etc or the ups store.
what did you mean by legit address? that it exists? i never said it didnt. i just said at that address is a po box.
try maps.google.com
put in the address of the most recent "acquisition":
848 N. Rainbow Blvd. #2446,
Las Vegas, NV 89107
then click street view. the first shot is a seven eleven. then behind it to the right is a mini strip mall.
in that strip mall is a business called "mail link", a business that rents mail boxes or po boxes. thats where # 2446 is.
perhaps you mistyped it because i did this 3 times and got the same thing.
also, look under the left column that lists the businesses at that address on the google template. nothing in that list for "vanguard defenders".
do your own research, this is just my opinion.
fair enough
look up his past dealings and business partners as well.
again, zebras dont change their stripes. this one thinks he can fool all of the people all of the time.
i did a google map of the address provided for the new "acquisition". not very surprisingly it came up as a strip mall, just like the florida based "acquisitions".
its actually another po box based company. is it just a coincidence none of the companies get mail at their physical address? if they in fact have one?
when you type in the exact address on google maps under street view it actually comes up a seven eleven store. kinda funny.
i am not:
trying to sway anyone. merely pointing out the holes and inconsistencies. make your own decision. i may or may not be wrong.
why is this company buying up companies that only exist on paper? ask yourself that question. who on this board can say they ever once heard of these companies outside the conversations on this board? i am asking for honesty here. no one i bet. we have a pretty wide demographic here which more than likely encompasses areas from every corner of the u.s. so has anyone heard of them?
what tangible benefit, aside from hype, is this company getting from buying companies with zero customer base? zero revenues? zero assets? zero brand recognition? ask yourself that question as well.
this company is not transparent. check pinksheets. they are hiding info, no doubt about it. what and why remains to be seen. do you believe this is in your best interests or watsons?
i can understand why the players on this board who are deep on this one want me to shut up. no hard feelings guys. i understand.
feel free to research anything i say. i have nothing to hide.
po boxes, ahhh yes. well as you pointed out many companies have po boxes. microsoft even has one. your right, many companies do. but they also have offices and operations. not a phone number to a cell phone and po box at mail boxes etc. think about that as well. the companies you talk about probably have been heard of in the civilized world as well.
vanguard defenders? WHO???
identity defenders? WHO???
watchdogid?? real close to idwatchdog, even straddling the fence of copyright infringement on that one. but again, WHO???
ok, so what happened? enlighten us?
spent all that money on consultants and companies that exist on paper.