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Geezus,
There is ZERO stocktwits and twitter chatter on $ZIVO at all.
Amigo Mike
Welp,
Just over 5000 shares traded so far. Have to say that I'm disappointed but ZIVO pissed off alot of people and now on pinkies ..... didn't maintain communications with investors ...... and here we struggling to break $10 on the biggest news literally ... in company history. Product validation.
Welp I still see no reason to sell. Hopefully ZIVO has more for investors in the near term and doesn't go silent here for another 6 months.
Still breaking every one of my own swing trading rules and have not sold 1 swing share yet.
Amigo Mike
Is it my opinion that ZIVO or more specifically Payne ..... is talking with a top 5 animal pharma. No rinky dinky name that nobody has herd of ....... top shelf pharma. Frankly I hope he is providing the results TO MORE THAN 1 .... as several have treatment options available.
I AM NOT OPPOSED TO BIDDING WAR. Hell I would want Zoetis to pay double for already having inside glimpse and doing nothing about it.
Amigo Mike
So which one of you have contacts in the poultry industry to start spreading this news. Anything we can do to get the word out would be beneficial IMO.
Also I hope that it is NOT Zoetis. Those idiots have already seen what the ZIVO product candidate can do .... and IMO ... have had their shot .... sat on their hands and did not come with appropriate support .... all IMO ....... I am looking at others in the top 5 animal pharmas.
Amigo Mike
LOL,
I'll take that as well.
This is a revolutionary change for the industry ..... and not just chickens. IMO it is worth well north of where the stock is right now. MANY multiples. Even more than $77. But of course can't get ahead of this. The stock was roughly $70/share spilt adjusted before Dahl uplisted and allowed ZIVO investors to get raped with that uplist and raise 2 1/2 years ago.
Some of us have been waiting on a moment like this for nearly 20 years. It has been a long time coming and lotta wasted time. It is time for this train to leave the station and BRING IT.
Amigo Mike
Quite frankly,
There is no reason to be selling this stock today. This should be no less than $20 now.
With license talk in play .... and meets or exceeds current treatment options at no less than cost parity ...... I still think a minimum $50 is more appropriate which only puts ZIVO near the historical market cap that it previously maintained. But now, has a legit product candidate to bring to market with large scale validation ready for USDA approval process and license.
Only thing missing there is ... advanced talks with global animal health company. We already know at least 1 was involved in the prior test. So it is time for the rubber to meet the road here.
Amigo Mike
ZIVO Bioscience Reports Positive Efficacy Results from 42-Day Validation Study with Non-Antibiotic Immune-Modulating Product for the Prevention and Treatment of Coccidiosis in Broiler Chickens
JAN 23, 2024
BLOOMFIELD HILLS, Mich.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Zivo Bioscience, Inc. (OTC PINK: ZIVO) (the “Company”), a biotech/agtech R&D company engaged in the development of therapeutic, medicinal and nutritional product candidates derived from proprietary algal cultures, announces positive efficacy results following its recent 42-day coccidiosis challenge study further demonstrating the effectiveness of its novel immune-modulating treatment for coccidiosis in broiler chickens. ZIVO’s product candidate for use in poultry feed is designed to boost immune response, allowing birds to effectively combat coccidiosis and reduce the negative effects of the disease without the use of antibiotics. With these and earlier test results, ZIVO will pursue a partnership with a global animal health company for commercializing its coccidiosis product.
The study design was similar to that of a previously successful 28-day challenge study but was extended through 42 days to replicate real-world conditions of the broiler production industry. The results of the study in which the ZIVO treatment groups and a placebo control were blinded to the independent study contractor confirm previously reported positive effects of ZIVO’s non-antibiotic alternative for maintaining broiler health against coccidiosis. Notably, the study also showed that the performance of ZIVO’s product candidate was comparable to that of a market leading anticoccidial product.
“We are delighted to report results that validate our prior 28-day study in broiler chickens, and we are particularly excited to report that our product performance compared favorably to a market leading product containing an antibiotic and an anti-coccidial chemical. The outcomes of our studies demonstrate that our coccidiosis treatment is efficacious in real-world conditions, yet without the undesirable characteristics associated with antibiotics and chemicals,” said John Payne, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of ZIVO Bioscience.
“Not only do our results show our candidate’s effectiveness in counteracting or eliminating adverse effects of coccidiosis on gastrointestinal health of broiler chickens, we are confident that similar results will be obtained in the commercial broiler production environment at cost parity with conventional antibiotic and antimicrobial interventions. As a result, our product exhibits promising potential to revolutionize poultry health management. Our next step is to use these results to engage a global animal health partner to complete licensing through the USDA and commercialize the product,” Mr. Payne added.
About Coccidiosis
Coccidiosis is a protozoal disease that causes diarrhea, weight loss, decreased performance and increased mortality in poultry. This disease represents a significant economic challenge for the global poultry industry, as indicated by a 2020 study that estimated annual costs ranging from $10 billion to $17 billioni. Products for treating coccidiosis are mostly antibiotic- or ionophore-based, and no significant new commercial technology has been introduced in the past 60 years. The global poultry industry spends more than $1.5 billion annually on coccidiosis control, primarily using decades-old compounds that industry and consumers alike wish to replace due to the risks of developing drug resistance. Coccidiosis is a common disease for chickens, especially among young chicks, and can be fatal or result in compromised digestion.
Yeah Gwinner,
A little "flurry" of buying into the close at $8.5925. Nice !
And yeah .... was surprised to see warrants go off. Looked like maybe 1 buyer scooping all up to 46 cents and last 4K at 40 cents. I've also been running scenarios on what happens with those warrants ..... they are not "in the money" til $33 / share ...... but they still have almost 2 1/2 years on them.
Amigo Mike
Yes I sense that "ebb" as well.
Buyers seem comfy with buying low $7s .... sellers selling in high $8s for now.
Amigo Mike
You guys are kinda quiet ... LOL.
Certainly some buying action this AM .... some selling in 8.50-9 range and some pull back ..... now posture is wide B/A of $1.40 to squelch the action. Looks to be resetting a bit at higher level and some buyers back above $7.
Of course it can change in a flash .... but still looks like ZIVO investors for the most part are holding the line.
This action has really gotten me thinking about what happens when/if any kind of volume action comes into this stock. I haven't seen a stock this thin in years. I owned one several years back that had about 1 million share float and might trade a couple hundred shares a day ... maybe .... sleepy food company with mostly boring news ... nothing that could produce rocketship type action.
Hmmmmm .....
Amigo Mike
Hey Sparky,
Just saw your note now .... been tied up in the middle of a couple hot runners the last 6 weeks and this morning.
Sorry to hear of your situation. I of course can't tell ya how ECSL will turn out but my expectation is to hear more from ECSL rather quickly given the time that's already elapsed and the expectations mgmt has set for deals being ready for execution and to be announced once the first domino falls (ie. the Lorton deal). As noted I'd like the see the "worthless LOI" for hydrogen build become a definitive agreement. I hope it is full blown terminal vs smaller options. Hopefully we will see shortly.
Eek LCID ... been on that but only for quick trades. TSLA is the one to own there .... and now with the recent cold snap .... I think electric is getting exposed a bit. And electric being "green" is somewhat BS too as the mining for minerals to build the batteries is in no way green. Nor is disposal of them.
Anyway .... hope you recover from all that and certainly hope that ECSL pays off for ya !
Amigo Mike
Love the $+ spread.
Amigo Mike
$7.89 so far ... volume thin as ever but small buyer nibbling and still appears to be at the window.
Amigo Mike
TKS,
I do not want to speculate on hydrogen buildout .... I'd sure like to see that announced pretty quickly. There could be different degrees of buildout some quicker than others .... so hard to say. You can certainly find news accounts of hydrogen builds and their size if you do a little googling.
Dynamo ... I don't own this stock for Dynamo. Doesn't move the needle ... for me .... unless/until there are millions in sales going on ....
I assume they'll be some "green" power generation going on .... dunno what that looks like ... I'm partial to wind. Don't like panels personally. But each has it's rules and space requirements and I'm sure state and local jurisdictions gotta weigh in too. Even the hydrogen could be used to generate power. As a fuel, green hydrogen still isn't cheap enough yet though and doesn't have the energy output of other fuels either. But the gap is narrowing.
Amigo Mike
Hey Sparky,
Appreciate the sentiment. I heard there was another stir that occurred yesterday .... LOL ... whatever. Did ya learn anything about ECSL ? Guessing not.
Ya make me nervous when you say you have all your eggs in ECSL basket ..... WOWZA.
I'm still wondering why more folks haven't engaged the ignore feature but I do get why you might not. Works nice. I am absolutely no fan of using it and have never used it with 1 exception in all the years I've been on IHUB til this board ..... everyone has opinion and should be heard ..... but when you have those who offer nothing and do nothing but harass .. .well what is the point ? They offer zippo on ECSL and it is therefore counterproductive wasting time reading and/or responding. Nothing of value results from it. I mean of those who might be considered staunch bulls .... how many offer information on ECSL ?
I certainly don't know everything which is why I dig for info. Information is what determines what I do with my investment. Not a novel concept. Back to the staunch bulls who imply they know everything every day .... well they don't offer anything .... and since most info people need to make investment decisions is not disclosed by ECSL .... if you know it ... well ... everyone knows what that is. So do ya really know (admitting to non public info) or are you full of you know what ?
The pied pier said ECSL's SEC specialist attorney wouldn't allow Mills to give details. Um. How would you know that ? And ECSL is stinky pinkie and does not currently have an up to date registration with the SEC so isn't bound as tightly to SEC or Exchange disclosure rules. It's just more of the same ECSL story. Non disclosure of basic info 99.9% of companies provide. Do I like it ... no. Did I go find out myself ... yes. Did the staunch bills offer that info ? Don't think so as most are on iggy. And if SEC specialist attorney isn't going to let Mills talk about a land deal for a couple million .... ya think he's gonna let Mills offer details on much bigger deals that everyone expects to happen ? Isn't going to happen. And I can tell you from experience, deals with petroleum companies .. PRs don't give specific details and those that do get filed with the SEC are typically highly redacted and always redacted where it offers rates and fees due to confidentiality and competitive reasons.
I noted I thought owner financing was a positive ..... but 2 1/2 years to close .... with owner financing ??? First choice ? Last resort ? Based on the final details ECSL would have only needed to come up with $3.7 milish ..... I don't know but raises a question in my mind. Hell I might have participated in a PP to make that happen 2 years ago. And not offering it publicly to the people that own the company is ridiculous. Its debt .... material ..... which wasn't even disclosed generically. So stuff like that just raises the antenna ..... what else isn't being stated and why ? Common sense questions ... but common sense .... is missing here.
Do I own this stock.? Yes. But I'm not buying more while Mills is CEO ... and while the failure to disclose material info persists. Personally I am looking forward to uplisting ..... as .... If/when ECSL moves to uplist, rest assured I'll be in contact with the examiner to discuss anything I think hasn't been disclosed. Simple thing like the patent info ... assignment / license / ownership ...... initially answered incorrectly by da bulls .... then gave up and moved to trade secret cause the proof is what it is ..... not answered by IR, not answered by WOWZA .. not answered by Trucking Tower and not answered by Mills. I am ... 100% ok ... with ... it is a trade secret ..... however that is not what ECSL states publicly. Patents are public info but public info directly contradicts ECSL characterization of the assignment to ECSL. Simple facts.
I like the recent "land worth $80 million" quip. LOL. You can get appraiser to do whatchya want on that .... and an accountant can play with numbers all day long to get ya what you want. That is just next step in the process ... got land worth $80 mil ... only have lien for $26.8 mil ..... bang .... you have equity ..... so assets are higher for next step ... maybe added borrowing ... for uplisting .... etc. How would anyone know they have appraisal for $80 million ? Certainly non public info.
So anyway, info is what I use to make investment decisions for me .... and I typically share my thoughts with others ... as the collective is usually better than 1 ..... typically of course there is a back and forth ... normal discussion of the facts and prospects .... and information sharing .... which is typically what these message board should be for. But we know that isn't always the case and certainly isn't the case here. Sad. But it is what it is.
Did everyone read the PR ? There are some very long timelines offered. Not mentioned by da bulls. Folks gonna be holding ECSL that long ?
ECSL ~80 cents. Tepid buying on the news. And overall basically back where it was. One has to wonder ...... why ..... when this is the first significant deal this company has landed. Staunch bulls buy ? How about the NDA buyers ? Back to recent quips .... $80 mil appraisal above ... da bulls don't wanna discuss the facts .... ECSL valuation before the deal was roughly $65 million depending on what price you use .... for 40% ownership in a gas station that loses money (and apparently ECSL has not renewed the lease on it so I would expect it to close in not too distant future) and additive sales that still aren't material ....... is that worth a $65 million market cap ?? Close Lorton deal .... inflate appraisal to inflate assets on the books .... wallah ..... ya got nearly $50 million in equity and valuation not so bad now. I would have rather seen $2 on closing ....... but that stuff is hot air.
Anyway .... stay with it Sparky .... I'm sure there is more to come ... but damn all eggs in ECSL basket ..... hopefully ECSL's price begins to rise. I'd like to see that hydrogen deal post haste. Need a tenant / partner on site to get the ball rolling.
Amigo Mike
Looks like mostly sell side now .... and larger seller stepping in.
More like what I expected to see today from ZIVO.
On a lighter note ... NITE is offering some stock at $35.00 (583 shares) ... LOL.
Amigo Mike
Interesting not to see at least some selling this AM in the first 1/2 hour.
ZIVO buyers seem to be holding strong thus far. Not something that is typical for this stock.
The larger bidder still sits under the market .... 3k at $3.50. not much else beyond 100 share bids/offers. There is offer of 348 shares at $7 (ASCM).
Amigo Mike
M1Maggot,
Absolutely see it as a positive as I've already noted. But some are too enamored with themselves and read what they want. You of course are an exception to that.
My problem is ... again .... is not with the deal .... it is Mills failure to provide the details to you and me ... the owners of the company. After all, isn't obtaining owner financing and acquiring a revenue stream in the deal something you'd wanna tell investors ? Why didn't Mills say exactly what you said in the PR ? Shouldn't he be touting that ? Could be more to it. No quote from Lorton reps.
BTW, simple question. How and when did you find out that Lorton's companies provided owner financing ? And what are the terms ?
Amigo Mike
I kinda wonder if it wouldn't now be in Armistace best interest to help run this up the flagpole and additionally provide more funding support to ZIVO ... assuming of course positive chicken results. =)
LOL $50 / share is $135 million valuation after new update today.
Just Dreamin' ........
Amigo Mike
TKS,
You shouldn't assume anything. And of course you shouldn't think linearly either. Business deals and financing can be structured a zillion different ways. A post of mine from 2 1/2 years ago. The specific words used may not be exactly right but you get the gist.
Ya new 8K with 2.7 million total shares out.
Purchases at much higher prices which is nice. Avg $3.05. Higher and higher. But may not be good for the stock tomorrow.
IMO this doesn't change the float though as all the recent sales are unregistered shares. They'd have to be held at minimum 6 months. That said, those investors could certainly have some free trading shares on hand to sell.
It is all about the "hold", "the news" ..... and at what price people are willing to sell at if the news is positive. IMO, this thing was beaten into the ground much further than it should have been. But that is the stock market. Extremes abound. I'm not sure I know what the correct stock price is at the moment for this stock but I do think is should be no less than $20 on positive chicken news.
We need the chicken results. I don't think that will be a "sell the news" situation unless ZIVO totally botches the PR which we know is the standard here. It should clearly state moving to license stage or even in advanced discussion with major animal pharma and that should hold the price as there would be no reason to sell just yet.
And Marchiando still has not answered my warrant question. Company filings make it look like the public warrants were also split but we know that didn't happen.
Amigo Mike
Close at $6.10.
To me is sure looks like ZIVO is on the launch pad. Can't say that I've recently been part of a pink sheet stock that was so tight and had a rocket blast off. I've participated in some Nasdaq stocks blasting off but I perceive the order flows and exits to be easier than on the pinkies.
Weasel .... you see it that way ? Hmmmm .....
Amigo Mike
Amigo Mike
No doubt there is a buyer today.
The reality is we are still in speculation mode. Anything less than $20 is ridiculously cheap .... IF and ONLY IF ... the chicken tests are positive and ZIVO is moving to a license with one of the big boys.
So I'm just holding and eating popcorn while watching for signs of life. Some new buys just went through.
Amigo Mike
Is it "go time" ???
LOL,
Super thin. Bidder under the market looking for a couple thousand shares at $4.46 now.
Amigo Mike
Like I said,
Hanging on ever word. Guess missed the LOL and wink emoji. Everyone knows there won't be an 8K anytime "soon".
Amigo Mike
Welp,
Some sellers in the mix now. Too bad .......
Amigo Mike
Slojab,
Been through most of the docs that have been submitted for closing to Hillsborough County.
Of the $33.5 million price tag, $26.8 million of it is seller financing as noted previous (Port Tampa Storage and Spray Miser Int'l are the lenders) to Cyber Fuels Gateway Terminal LLC, Tampa Bay Canal LLC and Tampa Bay Dredging LLC.
We know the 4 million shares were prior provided to Lorton ....
3,048,780 @ .55 = $1.676 mil
200,000 @ .83 = $166k
751,220 @ .55 = $413k
Roughly a total of $2.255 million in stock.
ECSL paid cash for a couple items along the way. $200K is recorded in ECSL disclosures for it.
So call it $2.5 million paid upfront + $26.8 million mortgage = $29.3 million ... so $3.7 million unaccounted for. Feels alot like the range of the aforementioned "bonus" associated with loan at closing which ECSL prior was willing to issue nearly 4.3 million shares to pay. Maybe some cash at closing but who knows since Mills hasn't provide the information publicly.
I'm of the opinion still that the seller financing is a positive however no terms offered ... ya know ... those details. Waiting on the 8K .... LOL.
😜
Amigo Mike
LOL,
Is ZIVO beginning to "coil" again and setting up for launch ?
It sure looks like it ..... with some consolidation and golden crosses beginning to form on 5 and 15 minute charts ..... longer charts are looking like support is catching up ......
Looking like .... "go time"
Amigo Mike
Looking like ZIVO catching a bid at 4.12 this afternoon but ASCM jumped in front to best bid and ask. 4.15x4.39
Who has the stones to be buying here ? LOL.
Amigo Mike
Well Gwinner,
I sure hope that your gut is correct and we see positive chicken results this week.
Amigo Mike
phi250,
Yes there should be focus on ECSL and all the details.
Unfortunately most of the details are missing. So guessing at stock price is a fools game. Real investors won't buy the stock with so much missing info. Pinkie investors are seeking alpha ...... .so ... you have neither at the moment. What happens next is what potentially moves the needle.
My opinion ..... looks to me locked up longs aren't buying heavily. Many been buying from ECSL at discount prices to keep it afloat. Mutes public trading. If anything they will more likely be on the sell side on upward movement to reduce overextended positions.
Lorton deal announced but volume less than I expected. Plenty of stock available on the news. Didn't even hit $1 .... that is also worse than I thought would happen.
So how long is an investor to wait on the next news ? =) "this week" ? "next week" ? What if there is no news this week ? Still think $1.75 ? Why ? Speculation is certainly a powerful mover of stock price but ..... IMO ... speculation has already been priced in. Let the pumping on the next step commence !!!!
Personally I'd like to see the "worthless LOI" for hydrogen become a DEFINITIVE AGREEMENT for a buildout on the newly acquired land. With of course the details of what ECSL gets out of it. Also wanna see tons of federal state and local support and tax credits.
Amigo Mike
LOL,
Wow,
Taking lessons from minion who struggle with reading comprehension ?
Thats a shame. Wrong again. But that is literally an every day occurrence isn't it ?
Kinda why your credibility is lost. Also kinda funny how all your minion hang on every word I say vs discussing ECSL and ignoring me ... cause I don't know anything right ?
When John Lawrence gets it done I'll make plenty. EVERYONE knows what Mills is. Mills gets credit for finding Lawrence. That's it.
Uplist. LOL. As always .... not happnin' anytime soon.
Amigo Mike
Hence why the "gall" post stays. Pot ... kettle blah blah.
Your clownshow CEO can't offer that information in the PR announcing the deal to the people that OWN the company and the rest of the investing public but he can share it with a reporter. Ya know because ECSL currectly has such an impressive revenue stream that adding revenue from the canal isnt worth mention.
Can't offer that the deal was mostly seller financed ... ya know ... debt .... which you said wasnt going to happen. Oooops. Wrong again. No terms offered. Normal companies disclose these simple things. But we all know ECSL isn't normal and Mills routinely doesn't disclose material info. There is no reason to hide it.
And since he didn't bother to inform investors I said "my impression" was it wasn't included. If that isn't correct. Fine. I havent had the time to finish reading all the closing docs.
But just reinforces why I won't be buying more ECSL while Mills is CEO.
Amigo Mike
Your timeline don't fit but you obviously have it all figured out.
The stock really started the cratering process mid September. That was shortly after announcing a positive prefinal test result.
So latest final test wasn't even to start for another month. Doesn't jive Tony.
What does jive Tony, is blank S1 filed beginning of October for a raise ... if you bothered to look. Which only means 1 thing Tony. LOOKING TO RAISE MONEY. Dawson James in early October Tony. Why is ZIVO at Dawson James Tony. Hint ..... LOOKING FOR MONEY. And stock continued to plummet.
But anyway you have it all figured out .... so now mgmt started a test they knew there were problems with and knew results would be delayed so waited for rock bottom and solved the test problems which by January the test was already over ...... but now all is fixed cause the test didnt really start in October it started in January after insider buys ....... and tests are gonna be positive cause insiders bought. Do I have it right now ?
Amigo Mike
Slojab,
Not a problem. Happy to do it for investors seeking info.
So far my impression is the final closing didn't include the purchase of the 2 Lorton businesses as a whole ..... they provided seller financing which presumably means they continue on their own ..... the waterway revenues gleaned by those companies ... since the entire company not acquired ..... probably dont come with the deal. Instead certain assets like the parcels and rights were acquired from those companies. So probably fails into those pesky "financial details". I certainly wanted those revenues in the deal so that leaves ECSL with no new revenues out of this deal if that is true.
Empty barrels are an iggy for me.
Amigo Mike
Tony,
Sure. Whatever you say. Hint... trial wasn't the only material situation happening and trial itself not likely material enough during ... to prevent buying. But whatever.
So which is it? The trial result is bad which you just said you are sure of .... which means the stock will plummet back to the lows and probably worse ...... But insiders buying anyway. Seems to me that negative result is akin to throwing money away.
Slojab,
Looking this evening like the deal is officially booked. Numerous numerous docs hit Hillsborough County today. Dozens and dozens of pages.
At face value it is looking like the Lorton companies that are selling the properties are providing seller financing. I certainly haven't read them all but there is at least 1 doc that indicates 2 of the Lorton companies providing a $26.8 million mortgage to ECSL subsidiaries. Gotta read them much closer when I'm at my PC and can actually see all the words LOL.
Closing date on the docs is yesterday. Couple docs signed Dec 29th.
Fun weekend of reading.
https://pubrec6.hillsclerk.com/ORIPublicAccess/customSearch.html
Enter the names of the Lorton companies selling the land or the ECSL subsidiaries to see the closing docs.
Amigo Mike
I'm not sure where you are coming from.
I am positive that EVERYONE at ZIVO including the BoD is POSITIVE the chicken test will be positive.
But insiders CAN'T BUY THE STOCK when in receipt of material information that has not been made available to the public. SEC 101.
They bought because ZIVO HAS NO MONEY.
Amigo Mike
You get what you pay for,
Cheapest cost ... but bottom of the barrel services. Many were sucked into cheapest cost and cheapest cost funds. But you can buy there stuff elsewhere and have 10x better everything.
Amigo Mike