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why the doom and gloom jerle? i think judge is playing this case perfectly. rosen and hedgies have totally stepped in it. the hedgies are going to have to return all monies earned plus damages for insider trading and collusion. with them out of the way all monies must be returned to wmi.releases are the least of their worries at this point. and as far as jpm goes, they are going to have to bust them up to get the assets that were stolen or "sold off on paper only" returned to wmi legally. they cant unwind the illegal seizure and bk because that would spotlight fdic and wallstreet's buddy system of crippling banks before takedown and jpm's insolvency and their desperate grab to save public pensions for govt workers and public officials held within their bank. cheer up jerle....you're going to be a millionaire real soon! have faith! the clergy did an exorcism on 11 11, the demon..i mean dimon, should play nice now. i think he is certainly findng out that possession is not 9/10ths of the law in his case! jmo.
i sent the pictures to your email. anxious to see if you see something i missed. sf
cbcdq is the pref. i think commons will be reinstated because fdic will not give colonial the info need to file a report. they won a huge case against fdic and are owed money big time.
bernie madoff just said the banks knew what was going on but looked the other way. in this case jpm was complicit and selling funds relating to madoffs.
i truly believe this will come to a head in april around Easter. if Jesus can resurrect in 3 days wamu can certainly do it in 3 years! jmo
i agree austin. susman is running this show for sure. this is truly a case of "biblical proportion" that is going to destroy the Fed. with people in germany and the U.S. hitting the gold and silver markets so jpm is cornered and cant cover shorting, isnt hurting either. jaime dmon said "the mere mortal has no way of fathoming the extent of things happening." the world we have now will not be recognizable in the END!" Lets thank God for that one.
i agree. WW can i email you since i cant pm?
the fbi is going to take these bastards down. dragnet in progress i feel. hedgies are going to take the first hit. and the 10 horned beast is going down very soon!(one world bank) God bless America. $Pray for justice!
what? im not joking are you? just look at his picture and increase the size of the picture about 250% and you'll see it.
i think susman is helping in the running of the parallel criminal investigation. i feel he is helping the fbi take down the hedgies and jpm. thats why they are lawyering up. i think judge walrath is just stringing this along to give them ample time to gather the information to make arrests. then with the hedge funds in jail for insider trading and collusion that leaves all the monies to come back to the shareholders. check don's money tree picture....it is there!
ths is not done for. they just need to get the correct info that fdic is supposed to provide but are refusing to. without that cbcgq cannot file paperwork correctly.
very interesting thanks.
truly awesome picture!
i think susman has already done the evaluation and he has the number in mind that he will settle for. thats why i feel the assets arent being talked about and we're just waiting on fdic and jpm to figure up the percentage they are responsible for. paulson already said in his book they made a mistake with wamu. and silence from the press on this is deafening. thats why lehman will always be the biggest failure in american history and not wamu. because they know they screwed up but they did it to save govt pensions,social security, and medicare., since jpm handles these accounts from within. they knew wamu and wmi were the cash cows to prop them up. they've been "digging" the info about wamu since the inception of "project west."
i think this is her "pay to stay" ruling. pay to stay your prison terms you will surely face if this is appealed out of my court and exposed for what it is theft and collusion. and with a trial waiting in the wings. our susman will wipe the floor with rosen. this is truly his forte.
assets have to be determined. so rosen had his chanceand failed. now susman can put up his numbers and can surely back them up. then it will be rosens turn to refute them but he wont be able to because he will never let the true list see the light of day.
she knows the truth. she is ruling so her case can not be appealed. and is working hedgies, rosen, and especially the execs of wamu and fdic into a nice neat little corner until they pull their wallets out to pay for the releases needed to keep them out of jail.
everything up till now has been hearsay in this case. where's the 3.1a and we can lay this all to rest.
fsshon, could you post your picture of your "money angel" again?
i know they are not hurting.they seem to be compartmentalizing their moneys from the seizure so none are ever shown together. they are seriously hiding assets. to say they have 20 billion in mortgages and sept 08 to find out it was 600 billion. major fuzzy math going on.
i think it needs to come to our homes now! what cha think?
when i posted and talked of jpm, i mean chase. since wamu was directly shifted to chase i felt the subject was moot. i know jpm is the holding company. i guess for everyone involved i'll need to be more concise next time. sorry don.
why would jpm show their hand like this. it seems they want to be shut down before all these payouts come to fruition. between wmi,lehman upcoming in apr 2012, and the silver manipulation suit starting... something smells! why would judge say 4 bil pulled would cause a downfall and then the next day jpm thumbs their nose at the judge with a 29 bill payout of bonuses to employees? this just doesnt make sense. seems judge would then see this and retract her findings. boy they are giving susman major fuel in the meantime to file a true por since jpm can seem now to pay their obligations to employees using ill-gotten gains from wamu. it seems they are throwing money to employees so they can show on paper that they have no money. is this what they call charity?
do you think this employee bonus payout of 65 billion is in fact a cover for the payout to assume washington mutual? the 65 billion number is awfully close to the "62 billion dollar" question bernanke alluded to that was asked by a texas senator about ongoing litigation in texas during cspan hearings. why would jpm come out saying they were paying bonuses and make judge mary look the fool after saying in her response that if 4 billion were pulled, another bank would go bk. jpm is seriously playing with fire or using this bonus thing as a cover.
i think this is another rosen collaboration. the info about if the 4 bil was given back would cause another bank to collapse....is just not info i feel a judge would have to disclose in this manner. the writing was very redundant in places. i think parts of this are signals to the hedgies to fork it over to settle or lose big. remeber when that crap rosen put out awhile back and then redacted, never to be seen again after it hit reuters, it smells of that.
pref's do trade. commons are not because fdic refuses to give colonial info to file their 8k.
fdic wanted to kill wamu and lehman because they wanted to be "THE REGULATOR" and kill the OTS. how better to kill the OTS then to down the banks and holding companies they regulate.
i believe the stock will reinstate. fdic will not turn over docs that allow colonial to file its report 8k 10k whatever it is. with 900 million return won from the court case against fdic, they are certainly going to have a hard time cancelling this stock.
it seems cbcgq status was revoked but colonial could not put out report because fdic refused to give up documentation.
and i still think that because she pushed the next session to jan she is telling them settle before the end of the year or the nols are going to be more costly to you. ie we get paid more for the releases they want and also the nols that are the estates. they all said in court time before last that they were in agreement it needed to be done by dec 23,24th.perfect time to do it with the holiday distractions.
sounds like the fdic took them down too like in the wamu case. signing confidentiality agreements was a stipulation in that case too. something seems fishy here. im buying more because the facts just do not add up in why this bank was taken down.
thats wonderful. nice to see your making money while also sticking it to jpm! hold on to the silver. i dont see jpm backing down at all just "saying" they are to take the heat off. keep buying. keep the pressure on.
but the 33 bil, that is always talked about, is the known by this board. what about the unknown ...like the occasio patent that jpm stole and was puting in their banks until they were made to stop. what about the trademark infringement of the wamu name on the front of the stolen providian credit cards they still use to fraud customers and is clearly marked chase on the back in small print? what about the mineral and air rights under and over every stand- alone bank wmi owned? this is worth far more than 24 per share. either that or more assets are being returned to the company than they lead us to believe.
im continuing to buy silver. i want to do my part to sqeeze these manipulators for everything they're worth. they are not backing down they are only trying to get people to sell because they want you to think they are backing out of some of their position. and it will send share prices down. when all they want is your shares cheap. govt wont make them cover, they'll just write another stimulus to get jpm of the hook like theyre doing right now in the payoff to exit wamu's bk. taxpayer monies to the rescue for the bank that holds congressional and senatorial pensions. they will never let the "too big to fail" fail. its their retirement if they do! jmo.
did i ask you? i think not. and 50 to 80 is exactly what economist, dr. archaya said was feasible for return to shareholders. look it up...it is substantiated and not a empty remark like yours.
real, at 56 bil the stock will only be 24? i feel susman wont consider anything less than 50 to 80 per share. threat of trial on collusion and bid rigging should net us that at least. jmo. but what do you think? isnt 24 very low?
sure it is!!! its the MONEY TRAIN EXPRESS!!!
jerle, wasnt that one of the payoff deals he was doing yesterday, to get them to drop out?
was there other shareholders that spoke after ilene that we have the audio for?
all of the audio has been scrubbed.i checked wamuaudio, dans link etc. all scrubbed.