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I read it is today.
You did mention a few days back that you didn't trust .0007. Even though I've got some shares that I'm not trading...I figured we would see .0005 about two weeks ago with some decent size blocks traded.
Heck no, Bill...I wasn't the guy that lined your pocket. I'd buy you a beer, but I wouldn't load your pocket up.
Not mad about anything.
Bill...I figure the dilution is still occurring (and will for a while) and the MMs are going to be in there too. I'm patient and let the whores do what they have to do. I think we will see another soft quarter (Q2), and a lot better numbers for the rest of 2013. For those who are holding (not trading) SFOR does have some good things ahead!
Dman...right on about getting products done and selling NOW.
I don't think very much revenue is coming in from the European/Middle East areas. I think revenue will come from over there around Q4. They are doing a lot of pilots over there. Still thinking Q2 will be soft, but a surprise would be very nice.
Sounds like Scotland is going to continue his ways. He doesn't always talk only about SFOR. I'm done talking to him, unless he says something that is an attack on me or perhaps someone else. We will see if he talks only about SFOR from here on. If that's the case, I will not respond to him.
It would be quite civil. I think others on Ihub would appreciate you and I keeping some of our dialog off of this site...I'm trying to be considerate to them. If you don't want to call, do the rest of the people on here a favor and please tone it down. There's been a couple of times you have publicly criticized where I bought at, but I was able to trade those shares as planned...I didn't come back and throw it back in your face. I kept quite. I'm trying to do my part. Will you do yours?
Offer for Scotland...I see you haven't replied to my offer for us to have a phone conversation about SFOR. Yes or no?
As for product, what do you think the guys at the SFOR demonstrate to the attendees at the RSA shows? It's not VCR tapes or 8 track technology. Come on, be real, because they demonstrate and sell real products.
If Mark Kay handed you a real hundred dollar bill, you would say he gave you Monopoly money just to continue with your "cute behavior." Your "not real" "scam" "going to zero" comments are considered old by pretty much everyone on Ihub, and the cuteness has wore off a long time ago.
How about it...want to call me and have a discussion about SFOR?
No surprise it hit .0005 today...I mentioned a couple of times over the past two weeks that a couple of large blocks would swoop in below .0006. Expected it to happen. SFOR has product because fellow investors have it on their own computers...it is the truth their are products.
Yes SFOR, get the product out NOW!!!
Thanks for everyone's replies regarding which of the three products will/has the most demand.
SFOR is receiving several of their annual payments from customers this month. I don't think there were any other glitches with payments except for White Sky. Looking forward to Q2 results, but still feel Q3 and 4 is where we will see better results.
Joe, I'm hearing you. The nice thing is that SFOR is not messing around with defending, and I hope Authentify doesn't file/serve SFOR this month. It is my understanding that if they don't file/serve by the end of this month, their (Authentify's) patent will no longer be valid. Phone Factor already lost to Authentify...it is all very interesting, and will be interesting on how things will shake out. SFOR is not messing around and wants to get rolling to increase revenue in various ways with their OOB product.
Throwing a question out there...
With all vendors in mind, what type of product do you think has the most demand (now and in the future)...out of band, anti-keylogging, or mobile security?
Yes indeed Trucuzzn, I agree there are other reviews out there...people can use Google to find more reviews. SFOR products are as real as PC MAG is real. Thanks again for your post Trucuzzn!
I hear what you are saying, but I don't think they will get a R/S with SFOR.
Not saying you are wrong about Blank Rome getting 70%, but where did you specifically see that? Furthermore, post the link if you can. I really don't care if Blank Rome gets 70% because the first step is to be able to say SFOR has been infringed upon. Who knows if SFOR will continue with Blank Rome...I don't know their contract/all of their strategies. From there, that is when SFOR will work on getting their first licensing deal (or sue for one-time payments). Once one or two of them are recorded, companies will be waking up that they can (and I'm sure some will be) sued. Yes, some of this can take time.
For now...to get to the first step of saying SFOR has been infringed upon...Authentify has yet to serve SFOR. If they don't in a timely fashion/specified time, they can loose their patent. That time frame is just right around the corner.
Regarding WhiteSky...I'm not holding my breath that anything will shake out with that. Hope lost revenue can be recovered, but will believe it if ever announced.
We are being dinged by the dilution, but SFOR has cash that they have access to (I'm sure it is not the cheapest money - but they have resources) and this is the time of year where several of the companies pay SFOR. I'm not thinking it will be a stellar Q2, but 3 and 4 should be much better.
Dman...thanks for your input regarding where SFOR will go with an Micro/PF announcement.
I hope the "noise" on this board is greatly reduced. I'm going to try and do my part. I don't plan on responding nearly as much to the "noise"...it gets old for everyone. Time to focus on moving ahead!
BUZZ...although you were buzzed, you are right about what you said. No R/S...SFOR has access to the funds it needs. That is the good thing that they have access. Yes, dilution dings us, but the doors are still open and cash is accessible. Micro/PF lawsuit should be in our favor soon. Other good events likely to occur this year. Some of the companies SFOR does business with are paying SFOR in August/Sept. Some of the new deals - will get paid but not for a while. The SFOR boys are not throwing in the towel...agreeable, they would have already if needed to. LONG SFOR!
It sounds like trading is your actual profession. I'm betting you rarely buy based on stories the companies provide. A trader won't make money waiting for the story to play out (or if it even does).
Have a profitable day!
Thank you for your additional input. I'm not sure how long you've been tracking SFOR. I don't know if you are a person who only invests based on numbers and charts. Some investors care only about those aspects...some care more about potential events that could make the company and themselves money.
There are a lot of people that have invested in SFOR based on events that could help bring in a lot of revenue. Of course, some of the events might not happen.
Are you one that solely looks at the numbers and charts to determine if a company is worth investing in? And, do you also take the "company's story/future events" in stride when determining to invest?
The research you do sounds interesting.
Bill...I knew someone would say something like that, hence, some of my disclaimers in my original post. I'm ok with your message...I always do what I think is best...I'm a big boy. I'm just trying to get a feel for what the value of the announcement could possibly be...is the consensus a half a penny, a penny, a buck, or what? Like I said, I'm a big boy and do what I feel is best and not off of what people tell me to do...just trying to get a valuation/doing a little more DD. None the less, thanks for chiming in.
Stargazer...thanks to you too for your input!
I think this is a subject that should be discuss without hearing criticism or attempts to one-up the thoughts of others. So far, clean comments and good comments.
Thanks again, and anyone else want to share their thoughts about the question/subject?
Bull Runs...thank you for your opinions!
Anyone else want to chime in and share their opinions about this?
Very important question (below) that might be prudent to start thinking about. I know shorts and some investors won't want to discuss or are thinking negatively (please don't discuss then), but IHUB is a place where some will want to discuss the question (below). The question is...
What do you think the highest share price will be IF an announcement is made that SFOR has prevailed over PhoneFactor and Authentify?
***For those that want to share their answer, please think about a realistic number of how the actual news would impact the share price, and not where you would like the share price of SFOR to be.
***If you can back up your answer with reasons, that would be great.
***Why am I asking this question? First, I think SFOR will win in all accounts and make the announcement within 2 months (if you own shares of SFOR, you are probably thinking it is possible too). Second, IF it does happen, some people might be thinking of selling some of their shares to recoup lost money or possibly do some profit taking. Some might even repurchase again on the dips. Regardless of the strategies..it would be nice to try and narrow a range where SFOR could go IF it happens. After all, who wants to leave money on the table by selling too soon? If the announcement occurs, is it a one cent jump or a tremendous amount more? Why?
***Realistic and positive posts are welcome! Thanks!!!
Thanks...should soon have more to share.
I'm trying to contain. 10-4, right on, LONG SFOR!!!
SFOR is not a scam at all.
Those posts were deleted. I am glad mine and his was! Lets keep it clean.
Looks like the .0007's are wanting in on the action...wouldn't surprise me if some .0007's come in today. Got to get dilution over with!
Sounds like EDIG and Apple are in court again tomorrow...is that correct? Does anyone think litigation with Apple will conclude in 2013? Thanks!
Companies that are scams do not get large firms to represent them for litigation. It is proven there is litigation going on. No scam at all. LONG SFOR!!!
Nah, it is not a scam at all. It has a couple of issues right now, but it will pull through.
SFOR is not a scam!!!
Thanks Cassandra for the update...very informative!
You are right, its not over! SFOR has been in court twice so far with WhiteSky. It was one month between each court date, and if it stays consistent, then, they will be in court next week again. That's not important though...a win is.
Joe, maybe so...maybe it is a bottom - two days in a row that the share volume subsided. I'm still thinking a couple of LARGE blocks will swipe in around .0005 or .0006 and swing back up quickly before the actual bottom hits. I personally don't expect to get filled at .0005, it will be MM's or insiders. I hope I'm wrong and it is NOW at the bottom.
Heybrad (or anyone else)...if you don't mind, please tell me over what period of time was the $16MM collected from the 19 settlements. How much of it is going to show up in this next quarterly report? Thanks...I have shares, and occasionally check on the status of EDIG, and your update(s) are appreciated!!!
Yes, indeed!
I hear all of you about this...we investors/general public are only hearing parts of each side of this alleged case. Not holding my breath on anything with it...will be interesting how it shakes out though. If I heard Kay correctly, they are going after this pretty hard, and that it is frustrating that they haven't settled already. Good thing is, we have other good things that are in the works (such as keystroke encryption patent, etc). I think we will see some good things happen, and Kay is not throwing in the towel because he would like to get more of his investment back (time and money). I like to see management have solid backgrounds and their own money into the game. That is another reason I like SFOR...these guys have come too far to let the ship sink. She might be taking on water a little water, but they are pumping some of it out too.
I think SFOR will bring it back to court again to try and get a judge to seek finalization. However, I don't think it will shake out like that...meaning, I also agree it will be settled out of court. I think more filings in court will happen soon, but who knows how long it will take to get this settled. There's other things to accomplish, but certainly this would be nice to get cleared up and possibly put some dough in the SFOR bank account. Who knows if we will ever find out what amount is brought in...could end up being nothing too.