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I. THE DOGMA OF THE TRINITY
The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion -- the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another. Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God." In this Trinity of Persons the Son is begotten of the Father by an eternal generation, and the Holy Spirit proceeds by an eternal procession from the Father and the Son. Yet, notwithstanding this difference as to origin, the Persons are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent. This, the Church teaches, is the revelation regarding God's nature which Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came upon earth to deliver to the world: and which she proposes to man as the foundation of her whole dogmatic system.
In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word trias (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A.D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom ("Ad. Autol.", II, 15). The term may, of course, have been in use before his time. Afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian ("De pud." c. xxi). In the next century the word is in general use. It is found in many passages of Origen ("In Ps. xvii", 15). The first creed in which it appears is that of Origen's pupil, Gregory Thaumaturgus. In his Ekthesis tes pisteos composed between 260 and 270, he writes:
There is therefore nothing created, nothing subject to another in the Trinity: nor is there anything that has been added as though it once had not existed, but had entered afterwards: therefore the Father has never been without the Son, nor the Son without the Spirit: and this same Trinity is immutable and unalterable forever (P. G., X, 986).
It is manifest that a dogma so mysterious presupposes a Divine revelation. When the fact of revelation, understood in its full sense as the speech of God to man, is no longer admitted, the rejection of the doctrine follows as a necessary consequence. For this reason it has no place in the Liberal Protestantism of today. The writers of this school contend that the doctrine of the Trinity, as professed by the Church, is not contained in the New Testament, but that it was first formulated in the second century and received final approbation in the fourth, as the result of the Arian and Macedonian controversies. In view of this assertion it is necessary to consider in some detail the evidence afforded by Holy Scripture. Attempts have been made recently to apply the more extreme theories of comparative religion to the doctrine ot the Trinity, and to account for it by an imaginary law of nature compelling men to group the objects of their worship in threes. It seems needless to give more than a reference to these extravagant views, which serious thinkers of every school reject as destitute of foundation.
To Mary
IF I had thought thou couldst have died,
I might not weep for thee;
But I forgot, when by thy side,
That thou couldst mortal be:
It never through my mind had past
The time would e'er be o'er,
And I on thee should look my last,
And thou shouldst smile no more!
And still upon that face I look,
And think 'twill smile again;
And still the thought I will not brook,
That I must look in vain.
But when I speak—thou dost not say
What thou ne'er left'st unsaid;
And now I feel, as well I may,
Sweet Mary, thou art dead!
If thou wouldst stay, e'en as thou art,
All cold and all serene—
I still might press thy silent heart,
And where thy smiles have been.
While e'en thy chill, bleak corse I have,
Thou seemest still mine own;
But there—I lay thee in thy grave,
And I am now alone!
I do not think, where'er thou art,
Thou hast forgotten me;
And I, perhaps, may soothe this heart
In thinking too of thee:
Yet there was round thee such a dawn
Of light ne'er seen before,
As fancy never could have drawn,
And never can restore!
Charles Wolfe. 1791–1823
From: "Richard Denis England" <9503964e@student.gla.ac.uk>
To: "Bernard Suzanne"
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 11:47:00 +0100
Subject: Timæus and Critias
Dear Mr Suzanne
I write to you to ask one simple question:
"Why does Plato destroy both Atlantis and ancient Athens?"
Corrupt, lawless and insolent Atlantis being defeated by moderate, wise and virtuous Athen does not present a problem in itself, but the fact that both ultimately suffer the same fate at the hands of nature seems perplexing.
Most commentators (e.g., Taylor, Cornford, Gill, Hackforth, Friedlander) either fail to address this problem or deal with it inadequately. Welliver states that both were destroyed by natural disasters as a device to separate pre-history from history, but for Plato to destroy a virtuous - indeed, the ideal state - must have key significance.
I agree with Dombrowski's hypothesis that it symbolises Plato's final abandonment of high utopianism that he was reluctant to cast off completely in the Republic.
I would be very interested in your view on this matter.
Richard England
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To: "Richard Denis England" <9503964e@student.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 98 11:54:19 +0200
Subject: Re: Timæus and Critias
Two remarks to begin with : (1) it is not Plato who destroys Athens, but Critias (I mean, Plato tells us the story though the mouth of Critias, and we have to take that into account, in the same way we don't give the same weight in the Symposium to Aristophanes' speech, to Agathon's and to Socrates') ; (2) Critias mentions the destruction of Athens in his summary at the beginning of the Timæus, but, for some reason he can't go that far in the Critias, because the dialogue is interrupted.
To me, the answer to your question must be part of a broader understanding of the task Critias in undertaking and the reason why the dialogue was left unfinished. And my understanding of all this is that the Critias was deliberately interrupted by Plato at the very moment "Zeus, the god of gods who reigns by laws" (Critias, 121b) is about to talk in the assembly of the gods he has convened to set a plan to straighten up men's mess. The Critias, which, in my ordering of the dialogues in tetralogies, is the central piece of the 7th and last trilogy (tetralogies are made up of a trilogy and an introductory dialogue ; the 7th tetralogy is introduced by the Philebus and includes the trilogy Timæus/Critias/Laws) is the ultimate "test" (krisis in Greek whence comes the name Critias) of the reader at the end of the long progress through the dialogues : it separates those who accept Critias' story and don't see what he is at, who thus miss the end of the story of Atlantis, from those who have understood, after Socrates long training, that the gods don't straighten up men's mess, at least not the way Homer and Critias think they do, but that Zeus has given men "logos" to take care of themselves and to bring "kosmos" in their cities through laws, taking example from the "kosmos" of he whole creation described at length by Timæus, and that this is done the way the Athenian does it in the Laws, drawing laws for a new city in the future while climbing toward the cave of Zeus on Mount Ida in Crete.
But what is wrong with Critias ? Well ! First, he is the leader of the Thirty Tyrants who all but destroyed Athens at the end of the Peloponnesian war, with the help of archenemy Sparta (I am aware that lately, some scholars have cast doubts on this identification, on the grounds that it doesn't fit with the genealogical and chronological data Critias gives in his story ; but to me, I have a hard time imagining that, for a reader of the dialogue in the second half of the IVth century, that is, about half a century later, a Critias mentioned in relation with Socrates could be anybody else than the bloody tyrant he had been accused of socializing with ; besides, as we'll see as we go, Critias keeps lying all along, and has good reasons to tamper with historical data...) With Alcibiades, he is among the leading "associates" of Socrates whose later deeds owed Socrates his condemnation, or at least, played a major role in it (Alcibiades opens, with the dialogue that bears his name, and Critias closes, in the Charmides, the initial tetralogy that opens the cycle of the dialogues ; Alcibiades is then taken care of in the Symposium, which explains, from his own mouth, the truth of his relationship with Socrates and exonerates Socrates from any guilt ; The Critias is Critias' "day in court", where, again from his own mouth, we will hear what he did with Socrates' lessons and be his judge). Here, he is shown in pretty good terms with Hermocrates, a leading Sicilian general who was instrumental in the downfall of the Sicilian expedition that preluded to the defeat of Athens in the Peloponesian war (and a guy whose name means "endowed with the power of Hermes, the messenger of the gods"...)
Now, what is Critias asked to do and what is he doing ? The program of the announced trilogy Timæus/Critias/Hermocrates is set by Socrates at Timæus, 19b-c. Basically, Socrates is asking his interlocutors to give life to the "ideal" of the Republic summarized just before (again, I know that the summary is not that of the dialogue called the Republic--other time, other place, other cast of characters--, but it is the summary of the ideas introduced in the Republic,and ideas are outside time and space, which is precisely what Plato wants to hint at in dissociating the ideas from their earlier setting in the Republic). To answer this call, Critias, with the help of Hermocrates, who plays usher to him, is suggesting nothing less than rewriting history, than making up a new Iliad, a new tale à la Homer, going as far as suggesting that Solon lost his time drawing laws for Athens and should have been more famous had he written himself the tale he is about to tell (Timæus, 21c) !... Is that what Socrates advocates at the end of the Republic and through all the dialogues, when he criticizes Homer and the poets, and promotes political activity and law-making ?...
Remember that Critias, besides being a statesman, was also counted among the sophists, and that, in a poem preserved in part in Sextus Empiricus, Against Mathematicians, IX, 54 (Diels, Fragmente der Vorsocratiker, Critias, frag. B, XXV), he suggests that gods were an invention of some shrewd man to frighten men, exploit their sense of guilt and induce them to obey law even when acting in secret. Well, here, he is making up a tale to refound Athenian imperialism while defusing Socrates' revolutionary ideas by suggesting that they are old stuff already put in practice in a remote past for better and for worse.
A careful reading of his story at the beginning of the Timæus and of his introduction at the beginning of the Critias shows that he keeps contradicting himself, twisting what Socrates was asking, taking his ironic praises at face value, that he confuses past, present and future, and probably made the whole story up during the night.
He is basically rewriting the story of the Medean wars and Marathon by changing time and places and suggesting that a more recent event than Homer and the Trojan War is indeed much older, that the Egyptians know the history of Athens better than the Athenians themselves, and that he has a better memory of a tale heard when he was 10 than of the discussion of the previous day with Socrates (Timæus, 26b-c) which, by the way, he is supposed to illustrate !...
So, in that perspective, he has to provide for an explanation why Athens doesn't remember this part of its history, and that, he does at Timæus, 22b-23d, through the mouth of the Egyptian priest. Athens had to be destroyed by one of these periodical cataclysms to explain why the memory of this part of its history was lost. But the fact is, because the memory of Marathon didn't find its Homer and, indeed, is too recent to allow for the kind of embellishment the Troyan War afforded, Critias projects it in a remote past to offer new grounds for Athens' dominion over the Greek world. And an immediate destruction of the winner along with the loser after the wondrous deeds provides an easy enough explanation why the memory of it was lost to future generations (there remains to be explained how it got known by Egyptian priests, but this is only a small detail !... Who might be picky enough to ask ? !...)
This is the rationale from Critias' standpoint. But, with Plato, there is always more to any given item than meets the eye. If, from Critias' standpoint, he is making up new ratonales for Athens' imperialism and thus, draws his inspiration from the Medean wars, Plato finds a way to make the story such that it also includes its own antidote (aside from being shut in the middle to make us wonder...) !...
So, besides suggesting the Medean wars moved west, the story also draws upon... the Peloponnesian war and more specifically the Sicilian expedition. Look ! We are talking about a huge island west (OK ! it's supposed to be past the Pillars of Heracles in the Atlantic Ocean, but it is also supposed to have taken place east and is moved west by Critias to better blur the picture ; besides, the name "Altantis", which sort of implies the location, and the story, refer to Atlas, the guy who thought he could sustain the world on his own shoulders without the help of the gods, a fitting "sponsor"--in Plato's eyes-- for a Critias who thinks the gods are an invention of a shrewd man, and suggests so himself cryptically at Critias, 107 b : "with regard to gods, we know where we stand !...") ; Critias is ushered into his tale by a Sicilian general instrumental in the downfall of the whole Athenian expedition ; and the summary given at Timæus, 25b-d, affords a double reading, when read with the Sicilian expedition in mind : what is told here is probably what Alcibiades had in mind in promoting the expedition, except that things didn't work as planed and as suggested here, but for one thing : the end ! The Athenian army indeed was gobbled up by the earth in one day and one night, sort of, thanks in large part to none other than... Hermocrates, ending prisonner in the quarries of Syracuse where most of them died (Thucydides, Histories, VII, 72-87)...
Thus, behind Critias' attempt to justfy a new imperial Athens as an answer to Socrates plea for an "ideal" city, Plato, between the lines, tells his readers "Look where imperialism leads ! Look what Alcibiades and Critias brought upon Athens, because they did not follow Socrates' lessons ! Judge by yourselves if you can, and turn toward the proper way, that of the laws..." But, fot those who didn't get the message, there still is the possibility to give a try to completing Critias' tale, and to spend the rest of their life searching for lost Atlantis, the pure product of Plato/Critias' imagination... To look at the past that never was rather than build the future that will be what we make it...
Does that answer your question ?
Yours,
Bernard SUZANNE
True morality is based on the order and harmony of the macrocosm, as revealed to the soul before birth.
Plato I think?
A Contemplation upon Flowers
BRAVE flowers—that I could gallant it like you,
And be as little vain!
You come abroad, and make a harmless show,
And to your beds of earth again.
You are not proud: you know your birth:
For your embroider'd garments are from earth.
You do obey your months and times, but I
Would have it ever Spring:
My fate would know no Winter, never die,
Nor think of such a thing.
O that I could my bed of earth but view
And smile, and look as cheerfully as you!
O teach me to see Death and not to fear,
But rather to take truce!
How often have I seen you at a bier,
And there look fresh and spruce!
You fragrant flowers! then teach me, that my breath
Like yours may sweeten and perfume my death.
Henry King, Bishop of Chichester. 1592–1669
A Contemplation upon Flowers
BRAVE flowers—that I could gallant it like you,
And be as little vain!
You come abroad, and make a harmless show,
And to your beds of earth again.
You are not proud: you know your birth:
For your embroider'd garments are from earth.
You do obey your months and times, but I
Would have it ever Spring:
My fate would know no Winter, never die,
Nor think of such a thing.
O that I could my bed of earth but view
And smile, and look as cheerfully as you!
O teach me to see Death and not to fear,
But rather to take truce!
How often have I seen you at a bier,
And there look fresh and spruce!
You fragrant flowers! then teach me, that my breath
Like yours may sweeten and perfume my death.
Henry King, Bishop of Chichester. 1592–1669
Respice Finem
Epigram
MY soul, sit thou a patient looker-on;
Judge not the play before the play is done:
Her plot hath many changes; every day
Speaks a new scene; the last act crowns the play.
Francis Quarles. 1592–1644
A Divine Rapture
E'EN like two little bank-dividing brooks,
That wash the pebbles with their wanton streams,
And having ranged and search'd a thousand nooks,
Meet both at length in silver-breasted Thames,
Where in a greater current they conjoin:
So I my Best-belovèd's am; so He is mine.
E'en so we met; and after long pursuit,
E'en so we joined; we both became entire;
No need for either to renew a suit,
For I was flax, and He was flames of fire:
Our firm-united souls did more than twine;
So I my Best-belovèd's am; so He is mine.
If all those glittering Monarchs, that command
The servile quarters of this earthly ball,
Should tender in exchange their shares of land,
I would not change my fortunes for them all:
Their wealth is but a counter to my coin:
The world 's but theirs; but my Belovèd's mine.
Francis Quarles. 1592–1644
Litany to the Holy Spirit
IN the hour of my distress,
When temptations me oppress,
And when I my sins confess,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When I lie within my bed,
Sick in heart and sick in head,
And with doubts discomforted,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When the house doth sigh and weep,
And the world is drown'd in sleep,
Yet mine eyes the watch do keep,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When the passing bell doth toll,
And the Furies in a shoal
Come to fright a parting soul,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When the tapers now burn blue,
And the comforters are few,
And that number more than true,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When the priest his last hath pray'd,
And I nod to what is said,
'Cause my speech is now decay'd,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When, God knows, I'm toss'd about
Either with despair or doubt;
Yet before the glass be out,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When the tempter me pursu'th
With the sins of all my youth,
And half damns me with untruth,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When the flames and hellish cries
Fright mine ears and fright mine eyes,
And all terrors me surprise,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
When the Judgment is reveal'd,
And that open'd which was seal'd,
When to Thee I have appeal'd,
Sweet Spirit, comfort me!
Robert Herrick. 1591–1674
Holy Spirit
Holy Spirit, in Christian belief, the third person of the Trinity, the other persons being God the Father and God the Son. In the New Testament, Jesus Christ refers to the Holy Spirit as "the Counselor . . . whom the Father will send in my name" (John 14:26).
A theology of the Holy Spirit developed slowly, largely in response to controversies over the relation of Jesus Christ to God the Father. In 325, the Council of Nicaea condemned as heresy the Arian teaching that the Son was a creature, neither equal to, nor coeternal with, the Father. In 381, the Council of Constantinople condemned the logical extension of that view, that the Holy Spirit was created by the Son. The council stated: "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of Life, who proceeds from the Father. Together with the Father and the Son he is adored and glorified." Later pronouncements brought only one important doctrinal change, the 9th-century addition of filioque to the creed of Constantinople. That addition, that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the son, has been a source of discord between Eastern and Western Christianity ever since.
The Holy Spirit is frequently presented in Scripture through symbols: the dove (see Mark 1:10), symbolizing peace and reconciliation; a whirlwind (see Acts 2), symbolizing strength; and as tongues of fire (see Acts 2), symbolizing the ecstasy of believers. The Holy Spirit is considered the sanctifier, who leads and guides the church and its members.
Gee Viv it looks as if Bible has become another RELIG. UP chasing you around to the swamp thread trying to get some action huh? Birdy is now name calling... Same old shit. Might look back at rb in a week or so again, just for shits and giggles.
Tell Pre that Carolyn is talking about him. Would like a hunting report and a drink at the bar. Thank you.
BTW how have you been lately? Sure was nice of Castle to set you up like that.
Someone Tell William Z Bub hi for me will ya please. EOM
ONEBGG will be up and running in his new office sometime tomorrow....I think.
Today should be his last day of moving. I'm going down to see if there is any salvage to be had. AR AR AR
I wonder how OBG will live without his DSL?......
Paule Walnuts
Re: Wildcats...
"Rocky" ...Wildcats
Hey Pre there is a certain female in a certain bar like atmosphere that would love for you to come talk to her.....
Paule Walnuts
Can somebody see that Pre gets this message? True to my words I wont post at RB anymore.
There has been a Pre sighting over at a thread to be left nameless.
It was late at night and it looked like his beard had grown at least four inches.
Paule Walnuts
Pre just went out and bought my hunting boots. Been trying to break them in since Monday. I bought a pair of Wildcats with the 500grm of Gortex lining. Nice boots. I liked them better than the Danners.
Did you get a hold of the guide yet?
Paule Walnuts.
Give me the boot ...Never. I'm just tooo goood ;O)-
Yes Pre will report. I’ll make sure of it. Sides he loves your company as well as your pretty smile. Offer him some homemade wine and you might end up with a man slave....;O)-
Pre should be back! The last day for the hunt was the 30th. I wonder if he bagged himself an old mountain woman to make him his homemade wine???
Paule Walnuts
This will definitely make the e-mail rounds today.
I could do it, however Overloading the system and angering the management are distinct possibilities...
Pre should be back soon. Like today.
Paule Walnuts
Well I'm off to go buy some Danner Boots and some six pocket cammo pants. Feeling like a child, hope I don’t get lost in the store.
This is pretty interesting. I am sitting here doing my thing when I hear this screaming coming from my back porch.
I get up to investigate only to find three of these black birds the size of Robbins doing strafing runs on my 150lb Rott for the food in his dish.
I have never seen this before. Three little birds go on the offensive, attacking a BIG dog for food he's not even protecting.
Damn dog is just sitting there watching.
MATT DON'T DO IT!!! It's a set-up! LOLOLOLO ROFLOL
Hey Bob....
"Also, as an aside, I've seen a number of what I would consider obscene references in here."
I would rather they be here The Parking Lot, a forum seemingly designed for such vulgarities, than on the legit investment threads...JMHO
The concept of the PARKING lost on you guys. I say this place is allowing the investment threads to be free of these disgruntled clowns.
You're all here AT THE PARKING LOT writing post after post after post after post after post of bitching and complaining instead of on the stock sites interfering with other people research and investment discussions.
Here Here Matt good show!
These intellectual halfwits couldn't handle RB.Piranha Food.
Did feel empowered by the use of his real name on the Internet? How very honorable of you.
Run boy run...Seems that's what they all do when competent adversaries show up. Poltroons…POLTROONS I SAY!
Portland was a big disappointment since the All Star break. A total collapse under extreme pressure was inevitable. I think the Blazer fan knew but refused to admit that the best team on paper was composed of childish self-centered millionaires.
With their attitudes they proceeded to take a big shit on the fans. Portland is now, and deservedly so a big laughing stock. I feel it will take a couple of years and 60 win performances to regain any credibility. Our road will now be harder than that of the rebuilding Chicago Bulls.
As a Blazer fan I'd like to say you big ******* babies can go Phuck yourselves in the ass. I hope someone takes a 4x4 across each and every one of your heads from the Black hole in Staud to the Man Pippen who couldn't offer up enough leadership to abstain from fist fighting in the parking lot with that bitchbaby nark schrImp, to the drug addict Kemp who couldn't keep his mouth off either a cheeseburger or the crack pipe.
The only exception with the Blazers was the tired old journeyman Sabonis who stepped up in the middle of all the attitudes and bullshit to play the best a tired overplayed player could.
Heads need to roll. I'd replace each and every one of the Blazers. Simply release them from their contracts. The one who refused? Fired! ALL of them and replace them with College players sporting the reasons why on Sports center. This group of bitchboys would be forever with a black mark hard pressed to find championship employment ever again. Maybe this action would send a message, sparking a fire underneath the primadonnas in the rest of the NBA.
Portland you disgust me. If you’d just played like men and lost, you’d have our utmost respect. But As I stated earlier you could care less. If I were you I’d take a long vacation anywhere other than here! As men and basketball players I spit on your faces.
And Dale Davis….I’m your Huckleberry BITCH!
"not cash and wealth" A...hem!
My wealth comes from the love of my God, family and close friends. ;O)
"I may be adversarial but I don't think I brag much."
It's allllll relative.
I know I’m the king of the Parking Lot. You’re just some filthy rich stock broker so na na na there! pttttttt!
I didn't tell how much money I made. I told the amount that I turned down. You may assume from the numbers that I put forth my income range, but that's about it. I didn't see any bragging other than I was offered yet another Job. Of course if I came off as bragging I do apologize. Like Matey with his house, Pre with his loans, and Viv with her jobs, I am just sharing my good fortune with the people whom I call my Internet friends. It’s not like I’m in any sort of competition with anybody. At least in my mind I’m not. I applaud success.
You NYC are constantly sharing with us the your fortunate success stories. Why are mine bragging? I never talk about 100 million-dollar customers and post links to my million-dollar mansion on the beach. The computer in everyroom of my house. Or talk about my neighbor’s bazillion dollar car collection. Matter in fact there is only one person here that does....
Hey everybody I am middle class with good money managing abilities. Nothing more, nothing less. I’ve managed to arrange my life to provide me with the most possible freedom and control. I would hope the same for the rest of you. No bragging other than God loves me!
Have you been drinking? Remove the spelling errors and then explain what you wrote to me.
No bullshit here buddy. For that last few years I've been transitioning to the stock market as my source of income. Now I will proceed to go into sales. In the market I am barely making it. I never claimed anything else. Just that I AM MAKING IT. It’s not like I have a sponsor helping me out on every little move to help further my success in this line of work.
As for settling....Think about this for a second buddy.
Why compete in an over saturated market? Why not just establish myself even more than I already am. Then proceed to buy the company and it's fifty years of clients along with it? A company already generating positive cash flow with great name recognition as well. Brad will be retiring in a few years and has no heirs apparent. I've already talked to him about buying the place three years ago so he does know that I’m interested in taking over when he's done. So far I am the only one who has approached him in regards to buying him out. Second I’ll still be working on my own terms. Self employed on a 10% straight commission basis. Home on the computer trading stocks and slamming on the simpletons.
I’m not settling for anything. I am increasing my income base.
Geesh I complement you and you tell me to get a bigger trailer house. So I don't live in million dollar houses. The average house in my neighborhood runs 200-350k. Big deal. I wouldn’t live in Communist California for all the money in the world.
OBG I just got home and my phone is dead. I cannot make outside calls until it charges again. If you call me I'll speaker phone you. If you tried earlier the phone was not plugged in and was playing the message then hanging up on people. It's fixed. Just shout out a call before I get into the shower and wash this dirt off. I’ll give you tem minutes.
Saturday unless it rains I have a baseball game at 12 and have to be there at 11:30. Tonight it’s my boy’s birthday and I am taking him to BullWinkles to play Laser tag and bumper boats with his friends. I have 1 ½ before I leave for the party.
Are you going to talk to H tonight?
Hey everybody I have great news...NYC you are one lucky bastid. Remember that blowjob you promised after three years if I was still trading for a living...well read on.
For the last three days I have been moonlighting for my ex-employer. He wanted to go on vacation with his brother (the only installer) and he needed someone to watch/run the shop, and install this three day job.
Never being one to turn down the extra cash, I said what the hell and filled in.
Well today after I get back to the shop, Brad (the owner) was there waiting for me. Seems he had a brainstorm as how to get me back.... and this is how it goes....
60k a year to be #1 installer didn't budge me. This time it was "I'll pay and train you to be my #1 salesman. At 10% straight commission, 60k a year will soon look like chump change to you. You can work from home or the office if you'd like. Think about it and get back to me."
I said let me talk to the Boss of the family and get back to you.
It's all about sales is it not? Now I'll be back in the industry I know like the back of my hand with all the free time to still trade stocks and raise my boy. NO more crawl spaces or dirt that won’t wash away for weeks. If I don’t like the customer I price myself out of the job. I’m still my own boss and still make my own hours. God must be smiling on me, as I could never convince any of my employers to jump me up to that position no matter how much I sold for them...AND I SOLD A LOT! Now I had my ex-employer come home early from his vacation to offer me a 6k sales seminar and another Job in his company.....
Well NYC, I knew you were right. Not about my ability to make a living in the market, but as to where I would excel and prosper the most. I am going to take him up on his offer, not that I need the money, but as I know it will be the best thing for my family and myself.
A kinder gentler Parking Lot today...
"Just don't think this means we'll be swappin spit in the showers ok..."
Clint Eastwood Heartbreak ridge.
Paule Walnuts
See, wasted posturing...not necessary. eom
Hey KG4...good post! eom
Mr Mark ...Now that's funny! I'm roflmao eom
Bye X4, have a good day ya hear!