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but we still get to trade and keep our shares we bought this week or are they going to restrict alllllllllll paim shares?
and why do you think it will rocket next week? im still confused why next week, cause there will really only be 5% out there? im assuming more since so many shares sold that should not have,, but maybe the o/s will still be low enough?
what are you people doing up? its 1:22 my time, im off to bed.
goooooooooooooooooooo paimmmmmmmmmmm!
sorry, i dont get to say it enough.. im afraid to sometimes.
good night and good luck everyone.. if it goes over 2 cents and they dont move the buy back date up like last year.. maybe we will run nicely and make real money!
i sure hope not, they did that last year and gobbled up our extra shares we bought. however.. it took off even more after that.. so we should win either way.. but i would rather keep the shares.
mean street..
again, it could be cause the flippers.. if i sell bought 1mil today at 6, and sold 1mil today at 8, and they who bought sold at 10, etc,, it may be the reason for more shares but its the same 1mil.�
green, i only paid 12.95 and just got 4.5mil shares at etrade. call my contact, he will help you.
yippy!!! guess what!!!
im in, im in!!! guys, if you have ameritrade.. listen carefully,
call steven elcock of etrade at 877 997 8625 ext 3001808 -- hes an angel! get set up with him..
he will set your acct up and then he will give you their wire info.. then you call ameritrade and talk to the wire dept and get that money wired to etrade ..!! about 2 hrs later.. you can trade, but dont just call anybody as they dont all help as much when you want to place your order, try any broker first.. tell them you want the internet rate but to buy paim, etc etc.. if they say they cant, then...
call this guy..
Nowel, same main number i gave you then ext 3003937
he will get your paim order thru!!!!! yes!!!
im innnnnnnnnnnnnn!!! and my dad just got in at .0013, before i could tell him to go for a little less pps, but oh well, we are in!
im posting this for the people that have shares stuck in ameritrade.. yes, im getting in etrade today.. money should hit in 30 minutes or so.. but we still have shares stuck soooooo.. i just got this from them..
Gail *****,
Thank you for contacting us regarding your shares of PEARL ASIAN MINING IND (PAIM). The official terms from the company have not been received at this time regarding the 95% buyback.
Currently this security is restricted from trading for an indefinite amount of time. I apologize for the inconvenience this causes. Please feel free to status again at a later date. You could also contact the issuer directly for more information.
Sincerely,
Cassie J.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
mean street.. (urgent)
i made that leap but possibly to late.. to etrade, my money will be in there in 2 hrs.. now.. what i buy today i get to keep and wont be "short" right,, my orig shares ares still locked up on ameritrade and showing full shares,, i wont be able to even sell the 5% at this point..
so i want to verify i can buy now and keep taht right?
renovatio,
it was a tip from a friend, and i bought it site unseen. any idea if they expect a good rev report in aug?
hi everyone, i just bought 100k today, at .014.. thats why it hit .0135, thats my luck.. haha.
well, just popped in to say hi. :'>
melvin,
your contact at the dtcc is off til mid nov.. and i called the main number from the net just now, but they verified they will not talk to me, only t/a or paim.
thx anyway.
meanstreet..
mine still shows my full shares from last week, and i still cant buy or sell..
they still have no explanation as of 5 minutes ago when i called.
if the dtcc didnt agree to a chill and then change their minds.. which very well may be true.. then why is choice trade and some other brokers (as mentioned on another site) saying they took back the shares they bought today. why not leave them as is? if the dtcc has the authority.. why would any trading stop if they didnt approve of it?
im not though, i have picks on that other site i cant say or ill get deleted.. but i did remove my personal pics, after some scary posts i got. (yipes) but im out there.. my house, my pool, the hubbies harley.. etc.. for all to see..
my job, etc..
i even deleted my site i posted here of some songs i did.. for you all to hear.. as it has my last name on it.. and i just dont need that posted right now. im afraid of some of the posters, not so much here.. but on another site.
imbass..
what does that have to do w/ameritrade? they accept money.. i know, i know.... im not getting what you are saying.. dont yell at me if i dont get it.. i just dont..
what is your point?
melvin..
thx, and i must say, you sound like my hubby, when me or others say "they" and he loves to say.. "just who is they???" .. you have a point there melvin.
thx again.
im sure she wont talk to me,, he had a contact,, i assume its someoen that will spend some time on the phone? i can get a number off the net im sure, but a referred name and number would be better.
melvin.
oh i was told we cant talk to them (dtcc), that they only talk to ceo or t/a.. so may i have a good contact number or even a name, that would be great.. thx..
also, melvin, if they didnt really talk to them, why would most brokers but ameritrade allow it to run?
so like, why would they only pick on ameritraders.. that doesnt make sense to me..
mean street,
this may have been answered but im still going thru the posts..
i asked the t/a that very q, i said, what if it hits 1 billion.. ???? she said it may be flippers.. she didnt use that word, but that makes sense,, that is if there is 450mil but 1bil bought/sold, it could just be flipping.. i mean, if there are 10 shares to a company.. you hold 5 and i hold 5, and we sell it, thats 10.. then someone else sells your bought shares higher. may bring it to 15.. and so on... make sense??
but why would flipping it end back at 4.. well, there was some tiny last minute 5/6 buys. but it was hitting 4 hard.. taht makes no sense.. so im worried.
janice,
i think paim asked the dtcc for the chill but the dtcc changed theirrrrrrrr mind, not paim from what i have learned today in my gobs of calls to everyone.
im not yelling at you by the way.. i see why both sides are concerned.. look, im screwed either way, i cant trade it.
per email from ameritrade tonight.. 7/23/07--
guys and gals, i dont know what else to do.. we may be left out for the whole run.
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Dear Gail ******
In regards to your shares of PEARL ASIAN MINING (PAIM), currently this position is still restricted from trading and until the restriction is removed you will not be able to trade. I apologize for the inconvenience and please feel free to status again in the future.
Sincerely,
Cassie J.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
tsx,,
i didnt say it was legit, im just trying to understand the game, but i cant play.. so ill just post what i can to help the others is all i can do.. its ok, dont freak out on me ok?
how can i blame the ceo when you all can buy/sell and i cant, now how would that benefit him?? come on now!
correction.. it appears the t/a thought i meant who was the head of ameritrades reorg dept. and she gave me ms. harris' name, but im told that she is the head of a dept of the dtc? anyway.. just wanted to clarify, so the head of ameritrades reorg remains a mystery.
ok, now im out of here before i get sick.
later everyone.
janice..
i dont know what paim is doing.. it seems the blame is on the dtc and brokers like ameritrade,, thats what im getting out of all this.. but i dont know.
its ok investor, its true, any more qs and im sure she will answer them,, her other phone lines were ringing off the hook just before we hung up.. but she will call anyone back if you just call her.
well, i know you dont want to hear it but i still believe in paim.. i really do or i wouldnt be going thru all this crap.
im more upset w/ameritrade.
i hope you are wrong about dilution.. i hope if it does that its just cause of those converting or this mishap we have now w/too many shares being bought and kept.
you know what? im actually starting to hope for a repeat of last year to move the buy back date forward. i know for sure it was after that that the realy spike occurred? am i right? anyone? i think thats right.. but not 100% sure.
janice,,
i was not posting to harm anyone, paim or alice,, i was just passing on what she said..
now, when i say you cant cash out for 3 days, i mean that i cant buy today, sell in 2 hrs, and have it put in my personal bank from my ameritrade til it settles for 3 days.
and i asked about the o/s and it should be about 450mil but i asked what if people buy back unauthorized shares,, wont that add the o/s and she said (and dont quote me) something like.. thats why the short sellers may hurt the o/s.. but that technically it should only be the 5% selling.. but i told her my online buddies are selling the whole amount.. so she said they will pay later.. but buyers wont suffer.. (me talking now) but to me, it was like a weird cycle that seems to suggest the o/s will go up?
don, i know that happened to me last year, i bought more after and it got gobbled up too..
i dont know what paim has in store, im just telling you what i was told by alice. ugh, im worn out, and i cant even buy at all.
i dont know, call alice.. you will know better q's to ask. shes at 1-916-760-7712
janice, that was unverified info, but i just verified w/alice that dtc is allowing trading from here on out.. im just passing on what she said.
the rumor about wed was just the settling shares from friday.. but im thinking, then why isnt it all frozen til wed? but we know we can buy today and sell tomorrow.. we just cant cash out for 3 days. right?
oh my, i just got off the phone with alice (the t/a) of agn..
1- she just talked to the dtc lady there who told her to call ameritrade, and give them dtc name/number to tell clarify they should be allowing us to sell our 5% and buy as much as we want.
now i know who the secret boss of the reorg dept is, its a lady named daniell (i dont know how to spell but its pronounced danyell) harris..
she will call her now and explain this..
(hold on everyone to your seats but this info to follow is a biggy)
alice said that buying and selling should be allowed.. selling should only be our 5% from up thru friday of last week shares that we owned... but anything you buy should only be others 5%.
so what you are buying today is.. ***free and clear*** post buy back reminaing 5%*** (yes, im left out once again for now) but you all that bought,, alice said you get to keep ***ALL** of it.
there should be no more that 450mil (ish) out there but if the volume goes over, thats ok she said cause its just flippers.. and flippers can buy and sell today without penalty.. the only ones that will be hurt is if you have your full shares from last week and you sell all of it.. you are shorting.. and will pay dearly later.
but buyers are safe.. i told her it sounds like buyers may not be safe if they are buying restricted shares.. she said ,, buyers should not be penalized, and should only be buying the remaing 5%. if they get more, the seller is penalized.
honestly, i told her, if its just the 5% bouncing around, the pps should be through the roof.. but who knows. maybe this is the max? i hope not. i think there is a lot of selling of shares people dont own and that is keeping the pps down.
i hope it all makes sense, again, im still new at this (since 10/05) but i tried to take notes.. i told her im chatting on line about it..
if you have more qs, just give her a call.
good luck everyone.
melvin, thats right, i found out that they called all brokers.. (yet ameritrade insists they didnt hear from them again) but that dtc is allowing trading thru wed.
i dont know what the heck is going on but all i can do is watch.. i would not sell yet.. and if i did i understand from all the warnings that i wouldnt want to sell more than my 5%..
but i wanted badly to buy.. but.. i cant.. cause ameritrade sucks.
i wish i knew someone that had a broker that lets you buy and they could buy it for me and i would pay them right back. i have the money, but i cant use it and theres just no time to get a new broker.. no way. not by wed.
uh, i told you i didnt move it, as it takes up to a week to settle and i was told that if the other brokers sell, i can too, and i cant
paim is trading, im screwed as i can sell/buy crap, so good luck to you all, im double screwed now.
who is your broker?
my acct shows full shares, and of course, and they dont know anything.
reorg isnt even working yet.. so i just talked to anyone at amtrade.. they show no notes showing paim to open today.. sooooooo..
they cant explain why i show full shares.. if it was to trade today, as much as i would love to sell all my shares.. i will control myself and only sell 5% as i have heard enough warnings that it would hurt me more in the long run to do that.. it may be a trick.
i wonder if ameritrade is the only broker to have all our shares showing.. anyone NOT w/amtrade still have all your shares? ill ask on the other 2 sites also.. as this would be good to know if its JUST ameritrade.
and good luck everyone.. seriously. :'>
janice you said..
"They've had BCIT in the deep freeze for two years now."
jeeeeez, i hope to God that doesnt happen here. that would be horrible.
ugh, unfortunately, i have to agree with you on that one line, as i had noticed that too..
the words "at least" together with "or less" can't go together,
im NOT bashing.. i have hope for paim.. go ahead, beat on me..
i believe that the pps will go way up, but im worried about the future tons of conversions to common..
hopefully by then the sales will start to show up in the revs, and it will keep climbing.
ok, here it comes, even though i cant PARTICIPATE RIGHT NOW!!
gooooooooooooooooo paimmmmmmmmmmmm!!
sorry, i had to get that out of my system.