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fsshon, this is excellent and i agree that this was an inside job and they would take control of the securities after exiting chapter 11, but how do they know JPM would not have hosed them as I fully suspect they would?
William48, settle down and do not bite your nails as there is no need for that. Susman already has the evidence on insider trading as that was the easy part. I think the reason he wants even more information is to nail Rosie and the firm of Weasel/Gotcha/Mangle plus JPM. Keep in mind by JPM/FDIC forcing the Horsies into being deposed due to no settlement, they effectively threw Weasel/Gotch/Mangle under the bus also.
Most people know that Rosie was involved with the Horsies from day one and is also guilty and even more so, since he is an attorney. I look for Rosie to pull WMI out of the G.S any hour now, as it is now his time for loss of standing in society, loss of license and prison time. His buddies in prison will need some attorney representation from future rape and murder charges that will happen from their prison, so it is only fitting that Rosie be there and available!
Well I think is is VERY safe to say the gains from here will be LARGE!!!
Rosie's nightmare! July 01, 2011-An exciting date for WMI and Equity!
When this past May 13th was approaching I thought this was an extremely important date for WMI as Susman’s objections were due followed by the Confirmation Hearing on 6/29. I could not see how the criminals could get past May 13th without everything that was hidden for the past almost three years coming to light. I was correct as sit did not happen but more delays due to so called settlement talks. Who knows whether these were really serious or not but my main point is the criminals were able to continue to hide three years of corruption with success. We learned at the last confirmation hearing that Susman was not allowed to show in court what he wanted t due to not advising the court ahead of time, hence PJS’s valuation hand delivered to the criminals this past Friday.
So now we are at a crossroads with Susman’s objections due again on 7/1/2011, which will be even more disastrous for the criminals. This is due to the Horsies being deposed and WMI going to be deposed on 6/30/2011. Is there a settlement before 7/1 or do they let Susman put out for the world to see just how corrupt this mess has been for the past three years? If the criminals past actions are any indication of future results, then this will not happen. Anything could happen to delay the inevitable, but obviously something very positive to Equity WILL happen soon. There are several possibilities that could happen in the next couple of business days such as one or more Horsies pulling out of the Global Settlement which will keep this exciting. IMHO, I feel JPM has thrown the Horsies under the bus which would include Rosie, by forcing them get deposed by not settling to prevent that from happening. I cannot expect them to have protected the criminals, so I am sure they destroyed whatever chance POR 6 had by throwing their former bosses under the bus during these depositions. One would think Rosie would protect him from bankruptcy fraud by withdrawing WMI from the Global Settlement.
Now for the interesting scenarios that could come to light. I think with Susman now having the evidence confirmed of wrongdoing, insider trading, corruption, and more, that this brings great alternatives. One being because WMI is/was solvent, they could prove with PJS’s valuation and BDO’s, they could safely exit chapter 11 as a solvent entity with no equities cancelled. Just resume paying the interest and debt on those securities. I say they could also back this up with an Equity based POR that I think would have to be submitted ahead of the confirmation hearing so the criminals cannot try to pull a fast one on the EC. I feel this could be entered with Susman’s objections on 7/1, 2011 and maybe even closer to the confirmation hearing depending on legalities. Susman could also introduce a “white knight” around this 7/1 date as well. It appears Equity has several VERY POSITIVE alternatives to keep from letting this Judge get a chance to sign Rosie’s POS POR. This next week will be the MOST positive for Equity since this case has been in existence. WMI is one lean, green and growing machine that will be printing BIG MONEY very soon!!!
LARGE!!!
TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON...
Yanik, the Criminals over at Weasel/Gotch/Mangle was hand delivered PJS valuation and the word spread like wildfire inside/outside of their offices. Obviously, they do not think any laws apply to them. Just ask Rosie what he thinks he has done wrong and he would answer, I have helped the Estate tremendously.
Knick I believe this is the ANNICO suit that Judge Collyer in DC threw out for ABSOULUTELY no reason other than being in the criminals pocket. She was able to delay it for about a year thinking the WaMu thing would be over and it would all be a mute point. I swear we have an under cover Government allies that has been pulling for Equity since day one and the first Trustee McMahon. Equity keeps getting good news just in the nick of time. There are three US Government branches and I think we have unkown allies that have been fighting for us and against all of this corruption VERY quietly, hence the timing of this way over-due appeal!!!
Never, I am going to believe your source because to me, it just makes sense. When one is around a large corporation for a long time; if you pay attention to business and what is going on in your corporation, yes I agree one will hear these things. Generally, the lower level people who keep themselves informed about what is going on may not have the dates correct, but they do get it.
I will use a merger for example, these people at the corporation will know ahead of time that a merger will happen and will even have it narrowed down to one or two other companies the merger will involve. Generally these people will not have the exact time line and maybe several months off, but they will know way ahead of the announcement. Same principle appies to this WaMu example, but the timeline is very close and no doubt IMHO.
Signing impairment for EC documents? Plus or minus?
I am wondering what the problem could be with the Judge signing the motion to compel the Hedgies to turn over documents and answering Susman's pleas for shortened filings?
He also wanted to make a special appointment with the court to discuss confidential material and Susman specifically said he did not want the appointment with an already scheduled Omnibus Hearing. He wanted the meeting during the week of July 20th or ASAP in the REAL sense of the word.
Lawrence, come on and quit giving this Judge excuses as she has seventeen years doing this. Like one poster said, is she retarded and I say no. She is working with her partner Rosie to protect her Government Bosses and this is just simple corruption in its highest form. Call it what it is. Susman has long known this and that is why he is working the Insider Trading part of it as this is a crime which will be really hard for her to cover up without directly exposing herself to the crime.
fsshon, I wonder if the Judge will sign these motions to shorten and motion to compell, as I believe Susman had his in since last Wednesday or Thursday? I know when ever Rosie has anything submitted, she can not seem to sign them fast enough. Yes, I realize she approved discovery but I am concerned that Susman's were not signed last week when time seemed to be important. I cannot see how they could meet 7/13 anyway, but I believe Susman was actually wanting to meet the 7/6 Confirmation Hearing with his expeditious filings. What are your thoughts? Maybe we see documents signed this evening and if they are not it will be VERY troubling IMHO!
Maybe you have the days inverted.
mord, you are correct and that I fully believe as I read it also. The only thing out of Rosie's mouth that was correct was when he said Equity classes would be in the money, under his other scam plan.
fsshon, excellent and well thought out reply. There is no doubt that A&M are a huge part of this travesty. There is no way billionaires do not defend their investment such as Bonderman, unless something way below board has happened to get their money back or they would have NEVER been a billionair to start with. AS you say Rosie, maybe switching sides and I agree however, that would mean the samething...settlement. It may not be possible now and much depends on how Susman plans on playing his cards for Rosie to switch back to Equity.
IMHO, there is no doubt one or several of the Horsies will put Rosie at the settlement table along with A&M and even if Rosie was not at the exact settlement table, the EC's conflict counsel will have found emails or cummunication nailing him. Also do not forget Quin Emanuel, as they had a secretary who left right after their problems with Weil came to light and I feel she or another one from Quin Emauel gave information to Susman and/or Venable information to nail Rosie on current and past behavior. At any rate, I still say a settlement or something VERY positive for Equity has to happen BEFORE number one, depositions and/or number two, Susman's objections/Confirmation Hearing come to light. At the very least Equity is included, which will mean a Confirmation Hearing that takes under an hour.
fsshon, I think you could be on to something but I will also go out on a limb that few may agree with but that is OK. If my limb breaks, maybe I can then jump to your limb as yours would make the next best choice IMHO and here it goes. Hopefully, you take no offense to my other post, as I certainly did not mean it personally but more my frustration with this travesty.
I have discussed here frequently and before how the Criminals have spent the last three years hiding, manipulating, practicing bankruptcy fraud to the hilt and many more illegal, unethical and inhumane acts to keep Joe Public from having a clue. I also discussed how can the Criminals let May 13th (Susman's original objections due) happen and most of all how could the Criminals let June 29th (Confirmation Hearing) happen without Equity? All of the assets, liabilities, illegal transfers, quit deed transferring, wind mill farms, airplanes, over 100 subsidiaries and most importantly a true asset/liability valuation that will show WaMu was a solvent entity before the illegal seizure. This will come to the forefront with Susman's objections and even more so in a true detailed Confirmation Hearing that will have to last longer than the one during the first week of December 2010, unless this becomes a sham.
Having said all of this and withholding much more, I cannot see how the Criminals can get past Susman's objections first (no clue when/if there is a due date), and not to mention how they can get past the first two depositions this coming week? IMHO, if the depositions go through, Rosie will be fried with bankruptcy fraud. I have no doubts one or more of the Horsies will put him in the so called "Mastermind" status of this POS POR in early 2009. So my handicapping of this mess is that there is a true settlement that Equity could agree to (could of happened this weekend) or Rosie has to pull WMI out of the G.S. as IMHO, he will first work to protect himself versus his beloved new bosses. It would be hard (maybe literally) to work around Big Bubba! I just do not think Susman will be any more professional than he has already been to the Criminals as Susman wants out of this very corrupt Delaware system.
fsshon, you said the following "I still think Walrath is Honorable, I just think she screwed up by trying to protect Chase from Bankruptcy. That was not her decision to make and as we now know JPMC and FDIC-R do not have legitimate claims and therefore are not contributing anything of value to the GSA and therefore the GSA is not F&R."
If the Judge is in a position to protect Chase from all of their illegalities in the theft of billions and billions of assets this is called aiding and abetting the criminal which is a crime and should be far worse than a crime for a Federal Judge. This individual is supposed to be upholding the U.S. Constitution and the law of the land that so many have died for in the past and currently fight to uphold. Fsshon,I admire you and all of the work you have done and are doing but if you have come down with Stockholm Syndrome...there is a cure for this.
By the way the crimninals always use this excuse when they are caught...we had to to save the world and this is why Chase is as corrupt and powerful because they just get bigger and bigger with each economic downturn through corruption instead of being put out of business. This is akin to breeding cancer as opposed to trying to find a cure.
Key to Settlement-Susman’s objections due date-When? & Depositions!
Susman's objection due date should be very telling as we are in the exact same position as we were in when Susman's objections were originally due on May 13th, 2011 with Confirmation Hearing on June 29th. I had a hard time believing the criminals would let Susman put all of this exposure out there for the public to view then and I feel the same way now. This is a repost for an answer to Susman's objection due date.
The Criminals spent almost three years coercing, threatening, cheating, and much more to keep this out of the media, print, editorials and other worldwide. Between this new objection due date (does anybody know?) and the Horsies getting deposed, I say there has to be capitulation on Rosie's part or settlement. I say this because I am sure that the Horsie's or at least one of them will sell Rosie out and then he goes down for bankruptcy fraud.
Susman's objection due date should be very telling as we are in the exact same position as we were in when Susman's objections were originally due on May 13th, 2011 with Confirmation Hearing on June 29th. I had a hard time believing the criminals would let Susman put all of this exposure out there for the public to view then and I feel the same way now.
They spent almost three years coercing, threatening, cheating, and much more to keep this out of the media, print and other worldwide. Between this new objection due date (does anybody know?) and the Hosies getting deposed, I say there has to be capitulation on Rosie's part or settlement. I say this because I am sure that the Horsie's or at least one of them will sell Rosie out and then he goes down for bankruptcy fraud.
Knight, it does not matter that she is leaaving. All you get is another Shiela Bair with a new name. He has been briefed and knows what is going and and if this is not settled before she leaves the new Chair will carry on as if nothing has happened. They all stick together or he would not have gotten the position.
goph, I agree 100 percent they are in it for themselves, just as we are, but that does not mean we are not helping each other achieve a common goal that happens to be the same...our money back and more.
Repost: Week ahead-Very telling-Watch actions closely-Could be decisive!
I am going to repost an article that I wrote back on May 8th leading up to May 13th when Susman's objections were do and the Confirmation Hearing at that time was scheduled for 6/29. I feel we are back in that EXACT position again. I cannot imagine the Horsies being deposed and even if they are, I feel the due dates of Susman’s objections are key and very telling. The criminals have spent almost three years blacking this travesty out worldwide in print, media and other. I just cannot imagine the criminals allowing the objections to disclose Insider Trading, assets, real estate, selling assets without court approval and not to mention having a Confirmation Hearing WITHOUT Equity. I say these two actions DOES NOT HAPPEN unless Equity is included. So the due date of Susman’s objections is going to be very telling.
The week ahead will show if the Hedgies will be deposed. I still say none of the last three will be deposed and yes I did not think Aurelius would be deposed either. I have since had thoughts on why they were that I think makes a lot of sense. It appears they were forced to be deposed, and the reason being (according to billings) would be they are VERY guilty. Now, if one is going to dismantle the GSA, it would make sense to have the guilty people on record showing they were part of this crime of stealing the reorganized WMRRC, hiding assets (bankruptcy fraud) and zeroing out shareholders. Then Susman could make a deal with the other three Horsies to prove verbally and in writing (throw under bus) Aurelius is guilty, thus cornering the Judge (who wants to sign current POR) into denying the POR or will prove she is aiding and abetting the crime of bankruptcy. This play is truly brilliant and this would explain why Susman did NOT give Aurelius ANY choice as Susman needed this on record to prevent the Judge with coming up with some lame excuse to sign the POR and leave her NO WAY out, unless ignoring crimes is on her agenda. Quite frankly, the EC has NEVER looked so good! If we see the other Horsies delayed or moved this will tell me Susman is on his way to taking control of the Estate. Then we would either see an 8k filing very soon, disclosing a deal with the Horsies or since we are so close to the 5/13/2011, he will just include it in his total objections due 5/13/2011.
Next we get to look at the real valuation of the entire POR and even though this is extremely important, I feel the above is the only way we can get the POR denied and that is because the crime of insider trading really destroys the criminals overall strategy. We have already seen this Judge give everything to the Government and the ONLY thing she may want Equity to have are the NOL’s and she expected Rosie to do this which he will not. I do not believe she would cave into Equities favor versus turning Rosie and the POR down. I am sorry folks, her actions are far to telling on what she WANTS to do so with that said I feel Susman has to make the crime his MOST important stance (even over valuation) if Equity is to get charge of this Estate. The Judge will make sure there is no appeal heard in Delaware for the sake of Equity, before she has a chance to sign this POR, thus mooting the decision if there ever is one. I also believe this is why Susman has been working on Rule 65, to overthrow this Judge or invoking a stay if in fact it goes that far. I still believe we have multiple plans of attack and I feel strongly that Susman has to work the angle of a crime being committed to get control. The criminals can come up with many weak excuses, other paid of criminals and so much more to reinforce their under to no valuation of the Estate and the Judge will no doubt sign this POR, based on HER PAST ACTIONS!
I have said this before and will say it again and that is we have multiple plans of attack planned and Equity has been quietly working with TPS, Blackhorse and others (behind the scenes) to ensure this POR is denied and/or coming up with our own POR to be entered sometime and maybe even this up coming week. Susman knows beyond doubt this Judge will approve this POR unless he has something extremely damaging and that goes back to proving the crime of insider trading and the forced deposition of Aurelius. I feel there will be multiple reasons the POR has to be turned down, but the only reason (POR is denied) will probably be if Susman is able to successfully tie the Sr. Note Holders to the crime and I feel very confident, based on billing records he CAN and WILL accomplish this. Many times in the past I have said we would never see a ruling on the infamous four billion and see a total asset list/valuation. The criminals have kept this blacked out for three years, controlled the media, threatened people to keep anyone from finding out, so most people expect that this is going to be on the front page news during the Confirmation Hearings or before? Now what is your guess?
Lawrence, EXCELLENT analogy and I agree that Rosie is almost powerless!
Lawrence147, yeah, I think you are correct but it would seem to me if Rosie lets Susman take another deposition the information would come out (no more professional courtesy) and Susman would destroy Rosie.
Does Rosie pull WMI out of Global Settlement?
Rosie has been playing both sides of the fence in this crime ridden chapter 11 case. There is no doubt in early 2009 when this Global Settlement was originally planned by the Hedgies that Rosie was present and enabled them into this bankruptcy fraud with hiding, selling, transferring, property, assets and other. With one Hedgie who has been partially deposed and is now being compelled to give up information, these people will roll before going to prison.
The fifty to one hundred billion dollar question is when does Rosie capitulate? I say this because he will not go to prison for anyone including his BELOVED JPM/FDIC, so when does he pull WMI out of the Global Settlement assuming there is no settlement on Friday, June 17, 2100? My guess he would have to pull WMI out BEFORE the next deposition takes place unless it is settled before.
Yanik, you may be correct with Rosies self imposed deadline but Rosie has to advise the court on the new timeline in reference to Susman's objections and due date for rebuttal to the objections. He has to come out today or tomorrow because ther are several issues he has to address with the POS POR 6.xxx going forward.
This my friend will NEVER happen as Susman has evidence on Insider Trading and he will show it in his objections in order to show at the Confirmation Hearing. I will say this, the Confirmation Hearing will never happen the way most think it will. What WILL HAPPEN is there will be a "meet and greet" and most people will sign off on the Confirmation Hearing agenda and it will all be buried forever.
Mrchnt, thank you for your valuable and knowlegable post. I say Rosie is cornered. If JPM/FDIC want to throw him under the bus with the Hedgies and before Susman can take those depositions, Rosie must pull WMI from the G.S. in order to appease Susman and this may not be enough. I think he has to do this before late this Friday assuming there is no aggreement.
ALL players including are cornered including the Judge!
Due to the actions of the Horsies, it appears all players are cornered unless a deal is reached with Equity very soon. There is no doubt that Rosie and the Horsies were present when this POS POR was planned and put together in early 2009. Even though it would be March 2010 before the POS POR was announced, date times and who was present does not lie and neither do their trade date/times. With one Horsie already deposed either partially or in whole, there is no doubt plenty of evidence due to the actions of the Horsies agreeing to delay their depositions.
I still say the Hedgies will not be deposed unless JPM/FDIC plan on throwing Rosie and the Horsies under the bus. This will do nothing but bring much unwanted attention to the very crimes they have spent almost three years blacking out worldwide. They also used their influence to threaten, scare and ruin anybody that reports anything remotely close to what actually happened. Now the Judge protected the Government Criminals and has attempted to destroy billions upon billions of dollars in assets and claims with her 'fair and reasonable" ruling which will be proven shortly if these depositions go forward. All of the hidden agenda will rise to the forefront of these multiple crimes.
The landscape to me now looks like this. If there is not a deal that Equity can agree, the depositions go forward and there is only one way to keep this from happening assuming no deal with the criminals. I do not feel any "power player” in this travesty is willing to go to prison for any of their bosses. With that said, Rosie at this time has to protect himself as the Hedgies will put him at the table and destroy him professionally, personally and more. I cannot imagine Rosie letting this happen so he has to do this before Friday evening. He tells his bosses that they have until, let’s say high noon on Friday to make a deal or he is filing in one liner with the court saying that WMI is pulling out of the Global Settlement and this MAY buy him some time with Susman.
Without a deal with Equity, this deal may blow wide open as I am beginning to think that this has almost been pre-destined for this case and it is time for this country to have another “Watergate” although this would make Watergate look like child’s play in comparison. The other actions that will happen if no deal is reached are Susman’s objections will come into play along with the Insider Trading that will be shown at the Confirmation Hearing, asset valuation, subs and all the rest. It goes back to what these criminals have hidden for almost three years and I have to believe that there WILL be a deal and that the Confirmation Hearing will be nothing more than a “meet and greet” to sign off and this is ALL buried. I still find it hard to believe that since ALL of these players have committed various forms of crimes/illegalities which are life threatening and destroying, that they WILL NOT make a deal.
KAAAABBBOOOMMM!!! Rosie is about ready to implode!
It looks like this COULD be a bluff and then the criminals COULD still make the deal on Friday or on/before the July 4th Holiday weekend. I do not even think they can make it to the Holiday due to the fact that Susman’s objections will be due and this is one of items the criminals do not want to see the light of day.
It appears to me if like I thought before since JPM/FDIC “eat their own” that they may throw Rosie and the Hedgies under the bus. If that is the case then Rosie has to pull WMI out of the Global Settlement, thus exposing this multiple crime scene to the entire world and here is hoping. In any event, if JPM/FDIC are not playing ball Rosie has to make a deal with equity, the Hedgies and WMI. This will end up destroying Rosie with his new boss JPM/FDIC and even worse destroying Weasel/Gotcha and Mangle. Did I forget to mention claw backs and a multibillion dollar malpractice claim?
fsshon, I kept this message from some time ago as I have been interested as well.
Subject: LEHMQ & Lehman's Brothers Securities
Flow, I still like all of them, especially the Cap Trusts, and I own the LEHKQ and LHHMQ.
I also believe, and many WaMu longs disagree, that the LEHPQs will eventually see that magical $1000 face value payout, much like we expect with our much coveted WAMPQs.
The LEHPQs are simply a year behind the WAMPQs IMO.
The serious party has not yet begun at Lehman, I think it will during 2010. WaMu gets to party first, just the way it is. Much more cut and dried case than Lehmans.
As far as the Lehman preferreds, I believe this is our pecking order,,,
LEHNQ
LEHKQ
LEHLQ
LHHMQ (cap trusts)
LEHCQ
LEHDQ
LEHFQ
LEHGQ
LEHJQ (66m outstanding, the most of all preferred)
LEHPQ ($1000 face value wild card) $4 right now. 4m O/S.
and then of course, the real wild card, the commons
LEHMQ
So to adaquatedly answer your question, I like the 4 cap trusts, followed by the LEHPQs, and then the LEHJQs.
I feel they will all be 'in the money', even the commons.
Hope this helps, HOLD your WAHUQ and WAMPQ, no matter what
Altini, I am a LEHPQ holder, and will hold till the conclusion of the Lehman case. These can and will IMO be just as good as WAMPQ, it will simply take awhile longer.
NO more complicated than that. I have a few thousand, and looking to add alot more once the WaMu shares get their just due. As many have said here, patience is the key.
thelimeyone, you have an excellent summary. I believe nobody will get this exactly correct but I believe your overall thought process is "spot on".
Rocki and that is where you are wrong. This whole travesty has been nothing but fraud, corruption, payoffs, favors to get the correct decisions from the Judge to protect her partner Rosie and not to mention her Government bosses. Priority in classes meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in this case and for one reason. The plan was and still is with the criminals to ZERO EQUITY OUT!!! So tell me where priority falls in this scenario!
Jay, if I had anything to say about it, I would not allow JPM to buy, unless we had exited chapter 11 and put it up for sale publicly so all enties could bid, resulting in the highest price. If JPM was the highest bidder, I would then sell it to the second highest bidder so their competitor could have it. Can you say, let the sun shine in?
Lawrence, GREAT, anyway to get the information out there. With this almost three year blackout in the worldwide media, it is about time we see something. If somebody would have told me this blackout worlwide for almost three years was possible, I would have thought they were full of it. Wow, what a total devastation is headed our way with such corrupt leadership running this country!
omerico, thank you for the article and yes, this is very good. This article appeared in the Saturday edition of the Wall Street along with Nate's picture which I believe will make for some large gains on Monday or at least HUGE volume.
Roach did you ever think Equity may not want to sell for so little money in chaper 11, not to mention why we we let the criminals be the only one who bids on it? Now this makes absolutely no sense. If this travesty is to continue, exit bankruptcy with a sound business plan and then put yourself up for sale through a true and honest method to get the highest price and then sell to one of the criminals competitors.
wamu, I am VERY interested in the possible VW type of shortsqeeze where the price could be in the hundreds of dollars in several hours if there are 1-2 billion illegal shares out there. That would mean pick a price in a hurry and sell all and then repurchase after a week or two when it crashes.
Hi William48, Nah, the Susman Group is smarter than that. They will be hovering above and will kick, whack an smack that high priority exotic fruit out and down to the ground!
OldTymer, yeah that is right unless one can consider "fair and reasonable" to hide billions and billions of assets even remotely legal and how one can be in charge of an Estate for almost three years and not have a clue of what happened (no transaction list) and no clue of what this Estate owned or owns currently. If you consider a Judge doing her fiduciary responsibility anything other than what I said, this country is even deeper trouble than what I thought.
I have always known this case is larger than this Judge and if I did not think or feel that way, I would have been gone within the first couple months of this filing. I realized this Judge was NEVER going to ask or enforce anybody to show an asset list or demand a transaction of what, where, how and disposition of assets. But I felt with so many billions at stake and as time has gone on even more billions than I ever imagined, I figured the competition or the criminals own greed would let some or all of the truth come out and that my friend are the only reasons I am still here. This Judge showed me her true colors within the first several months.
OldTymer, I learned a long time ago to not believe what people say, believe what people do as their actions tell one all you need to know, but the problem is most people do not want to know the truth, so they stick their head in the sand and hope for the best.
old tymer, you friend is wrong period. When one has evidence of crime (s) and will use it, people think much differently, especially when there is not much other opportunity in this corrupt Delaware Court system with a JPM bought and paid for Judge. When one is facing loss of standing in society, loss of career status and prison, the easy thing to do is give up what you got caught stealing. Yes, these people are going to give this up...no decision.
However with that said, if JPM/FDIC want to sell these people down the river (real stupid), then this could go on for a while. This will at that point blow wide open and make Watergate look like a monkey in the overall jungle and this is what I hope. The future of this great country is at stake. There is only one real reason the criminals would make so many multiple crimes and that is even if they got caught they would not pay ANY personal price and that my friend WILL AND IS destroying this country.