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A lite sell off so far today.
Dumbarse give me a little of your thoughts today.
I feel C is going to pull through the 5 line by end of month.
Watching the others that were hit hard (IRE etc.) and they are wavering but C has held steady and up.
What is Tom up to with this offering of HBWOD and SEVA to the HCKI holders?
I know it is just a ploy to bringin new suckers but how can he even pass this through with the track record?
I love how HCKI states that they don't have any buisness dealings with Tom other than the lease on the pizza joint and here they are with him as an advisor and swapping stock.
This is a new one for me.
Nice to see this hanging in there in the upper area.
I should take more vacations.
I would hope for low to mid 5's by end of month.
Oh goody goody you get to have some of Tom’s totally worthless stock in his other down and out shells.
FYI they both (HBWOD and SEVA) have been R/S’d to near death just like HCKI has been.
This only reinforces the fact that TS is NOT OUT!
So hang in there everyone and you too will own a piece of nothing.
It amazes me how they can still get newbie investors in their trap.
HCKI even has some old tried and true guys sucked in.
As long as Tom is involved in any of these there will not be a legitimate outcome.
All the law suits and false statements prove his is nothing more than an outright crook IMO
Sorry to say, if you play with this stock now you can turn a dime but I don't see this as having a long haul.
It has done nothing but stink like dog doo on the bottom of my shoe for a long time and even though some will defend it, it isn't performing at all.
Looks like it will go to the 000's IMO
Tom Is not OUTas long as he is an advisor, and with his track record... I wouldn't trust a thing
It isn't even worth selling at this point.
I sold off all that I could a while ago and what I have been stuck with since would cost me to sell.
Sorry but the same old it will turn around and just wait isn't going to do it for me any more.
Is Watson still talking about an uplist?
Looks like the only way he can do that is with an R/S and the way this has been I would say he could do that even without uplisting.
I love it, he has always had the opportunity to turn the loan into stock, the guy isn’t that stupid.
Oh course he also said if Tom was an honorable man he would repay the loan, guess he doesn’t know Tom all that well.
Um, I work in Watertown MA, we don't have that Pizza place here. I'm sure they mean Watertown NY.
So even though Tom is out as CEO he is still dealing with it and that means TOXIC!
Don't forget, if you are going to fly you will have to pay for the extra baggage.
For many this will not be a good week but it should be a good week to pick up stocks for later.
JimsZ, I was wondering do you think that Old Tom as advisor to HCKI will let him know that he can change the stock symbol and R/S it at the same time since it has a bad reputation and is way undervalued (god I love how he manipulates that part) so he can cash in his holdings for more?
I like how Peter states that he has no connection with Tom other than the lease, teaching him good I would say.
Dumbarse, is it me or does it seem like this is being kept at this level for a reason?
Don't count on either.
As long as Tom is on the paper I wouldn't have anything to do with this.
Didn’t someone ask to post proof that Gary (and through Peter in as added bonus) and Tom knew each other?
Thanks dav1234 for posting the link.
And didn’t someone in that last article say that they didn’t have any business connection with Tom other than the lease at the baker spot?
Sounds like Tom is “advising” him alright.
Have you even though that it has been tried?
Nice, I like how he said that there are no business ties to SEVA other than the lease; um I guess his buying the leftover crap from HCKI which is part (or was) of SEVA isn’t called business where he’s from.
Oh, and it looks like there is just a little bit of a tie as far as knowing one another (Tom and Gary) indicated there too, but of course there is room for doubt.
Ah Huston we have a problem, seems we are stuck on the pad.
Roger that space shuttle “never” sit tight and we will advise.
Not like we haven't posted enough to warn everyone.
I wouldn’t say we all dismissed what you had posted.
Most of us that still post here are warning others to do their DD since this has such a bad history.
I for one am glad that you have posted your findings and I refuse to sell my stock as I wouldn’t want anyone else to get caught in Toms scams.
What is the 9M that SEVA is out from under?
Is he just moving names around, this did come on rather quickly.
You posted proof that he is not what?
Did I not say that Tom was out as CEO?
The connection between Tom and Gary are there, their names on the forms are proof enough.
If you look over my post you’ll see I’m asking questions.
The ties are there if you do the DD.
Speculation is driving this or is it, seems that word on the street is a bit inside.
Now this is getting confusing,
Tom is out as CEO (and that is a good thing) but his buddy Gary is in as CEO (not so good when you find out that he and Tom work alike) and they claim that the debt is gone from what? Sale of interest? Well now you know who was dropping the 3mill at a crack
Now add in the little bit of info that the Pizza guy Gary is involved with Alteri’s bakery which happens to be what? A holding of SEVA which is Toms company that owns HCKI (until an R/M goes through and then becomes something under his other holdings), HBWO and is still retaining Wisebuy?
Can we say shell game?
Don’t forget people, this is the same team that took Hackett, totally destroyed it and tried to reopen as an old business venture that previously failed, couldn’t even follow through on BK filings (a very simple task) made several promises that they would raise capital (in how many ways?) which never even came to fruit, and now have miraculously found the light at the end of the tunnel.
The names have only changed in who is on top, the addresses are the same and Tom is still in control one way or the other.
I hope for everyone’s sake that the next bit of news defines this a bit more but for right now it still looks like old Tom is control one way or another.
JMO
Thanks for the post.
Today marks the start of the treasury department’s sale of its share of warrants; let’s see how that effects to trend today along with the housing and jobs report
So what is going on over here in, what is it now, HBWOD land?
I see the split went through but has anyone got their new shares yet?
Why is it listed on the bulletin boards but I don’t see any transactions?
I’m sure it is all normal ops but I’m just curious as to what old Tom is up to.
I thought the huge news was due out last weekend?
Looks like we are going to hit our heads on $4.90 for a while.
Dumbarse is this your resistance line for the day?
I see, your just passing on rumors that make a reference that they have contacts with someone that insider information.
Thanks for clarifying that.
As CEO of HCKI, doesn't say that HCKI isn't still under SEVA which is still Tommy boy.
This is the only hesitation I have at the moment.
If this big news that some people are refering to is that HCKI will be out on its own then great, if not then it looks like the same old game to me.
So you are saying that you have insider information
Yea, Tom almost has enough for the day, seems like old times.
JimsZ, for some reason I keep getting the feeling that some one has pre public information, but then that is just a feeling and I’m not pointing the finger at anyone.
So do you know anything about the change over? Is it still under SEVA? Is the new guy taking over the debt or is Tom going to move it to his other deals?
Speaking of other deals, what is up with HBWOD, see it on the BB but haven’t seen any action.
Wonder if the pizza guy knows Tom and is planning on becoming part of his, for lack of a civil word, POC business.
Perhaps competition is healthy.
Add to this that Friday is usually a sell off day.
Ignore the first hour or so, let the market do its thing and then watch what goes on.
1st off the talk of R/S here is only a discussion, it was brought up as a “what if” type thing to inspire different thoughts and scenarios.
An R/S is not always an act of desperation if it is handled properly.
You have to remember that the investors (at least the ones that do their DD) want facts and documents to back them up when it involves anything that Tom is even remotely connected too.
Oh, and when you post a document it is best to show the whole thing even if the bottom half is blank, leaves room for speculation and doubt.
That would be nice, had the idea that it was preferred only.
I need to read it over again.
Thanks derrickbemis, I had seen that and Kei had posted some info on it.
I was mostly just voicing my thoughts as to other ways things could go.
Dividend as I read it would be for prefered stock at this point.
I have a bad feeling that C would do an R/S just to stop this roller coaster run.
When you are talking 1 to 2 billion traded each day you would slow the ride down by upping the pps and reducing the volume.
I don’t see the harm in it myself and would like some other thoughts.
For now I do like the fact that even though it has lost ground it is holding its own a bit better than a year ago.
JMT