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February volume has been rather impressive overall. It looks like multiple days over 500 + million can probably move this a bit.
If there is great and unexpected news volume could go into billions and such a scenario could propel us into a more-substantial run. I sense that management is quite motivated to get something going because they have to realize core holders are not going to increase share holdings unless they see co. attain a tangible level of revenues.
Endless toxic financing and share increases to effectively pay minimum payment to CD holders is not a realistic way to encourage confidence for investment community or have enough latitude to compete with anyone. I simply say that I want to see results here and very soon.
Otherwise and IMO existing holders are going to largely sit on the sidelines and leave co. to its ultimate fate and/or dump into any given run. IME CNES has the choice to either thrive or die.
back from traveling:
I would agree--major "progress" has not been too apparent of late. However, this 'boring-ness' could be in our favor as far as prepping market for a run. We need strong and persistent buying DEMAND and unknown timing of major and substantial news could be that trigger. This could bring in a new slew of investors as well. As a long, I personally prefer major annoucements and news when warranted rather than constant 'news' that smells of fluff.
back from the southwest--so I haven't been around email too much over the last week. There has been some great, intelligent DD going on here in anticipation for BUNM's next move. I am still optimistic, however more realistic than I was several months back. I do think the company is looking at the long-term and isn't rushing to put something out that is not functional or worse legally problematic.
There is really one chance to get it right and accelerate growth in a major way--so I believe CEO and management are taking their time for a reason. A quick 50,000 additional users that end up unimpressed is not going to beat 25,000 more a month that come back again and again and tell all their friends. We want to capture a new dedicated group of users--the current 1000 beta users are going to be the wave of a new future for BUNM IME more will be coming.
I believe problems in the general economy will not adversely affect BUNM's opportunities for growth. Actually it goes for our favor IME because users will favor more at-home activities especially in dealing with inflationary pressures; going out to eat, gas for social outings etc. Access to the internet has become as essential as paying for utilities.
A number of users here are likely under 16 and frankly are stuck at home more than they would like. They are a great 'captive' audience for hypster and related spin-offs. The younger generation--particularly under 25 group favors internet over other mediums--so I think overall economy will have limited impact--barring economic apocalypse.
BUNM must be functional, attractive and have an ability and reach and more-importantly retain users. If these things can be achieved in adequate fashion then a continual growth curve will be inevitable. As for PPS--I still contend that there is too much uncertainty and lack of excitement thus far for PPS to enjoy either a realistic valuation or even a speculative one.
I honestly feel current PPS levels are ridiculous and that FB announcement will stir things whether it be a conservative or perhaps a major run. I must admit being a bit perplexed about why we haven't moved as of late but the pinkie investor audience does have many distractions and there is quite a bit of financial heartburn to go around these days. Don't ask me to explain the psychology but some people simply don't buy without a certain type of news.
In other words, rather than expecting FB annoucement they are expecting the worst. BUNM still has all the makings of a real company with real potential and yes it is still in its infancy but growth is happening every day! This is significant for any company and especially in light of the reality that most small businesses fail in the first 1-2 years.
Final food for thought:
In March 2007 there was 100 beta users and now there are 200,000 + users
Now there are 1000 FB beta users-- take your pick in the next 10-11 months (Oct-Nov 2008) where we might be--as far as FB users are concerned? The below benchmark numbers do not account for existing user base or growth out of other marketing efforts)
A 10,000
B 100,000
C 1,000,000
D 10,000,000
Feel free to express your preference lol or your prediction in regards to above--where will be in 10-11 months. Pass some more salt...
Yesterday's 97,670,002 volume day shows how BUNM's dynamics can change in a hurry. While trading action of 1-14-08 speaks to more-selling pressure than buying pressure--the reverse will catch many off-guard when the PPS moves upward on high share demand. This will show low-to no volume and will deceive us all and then we will see a 100 + million type of day with strong buying pressure and this will be more-dynamic for all involved.
I think there could be a number of momentum-type traders who are waiting on the sidelines here before buying aboard for the official FB app announcement. There are always other plays and they try to avoid 'dead money' as long as there is no real excitement here.
I agree with other posters about impact of FB moving into IPO. It will encourage investors to research the sector and find properties that have capability for growth. BUNM has already proven its ability to grow. With release of FB to captured market there of (50 million users) our growth rate is bound to accelerate. Does anyone here feel barring some unforseen negative events that BUNM usership #s are going to be lower in two months, three months etc.?!
I like to look at BUNM's usership growth in the context of looking at a company that grows its profits every quarter. We have not seen financials but that's what makes this such a gem--in that a number of people will only invest based on financials and usually they miss getting in at the most attractive levels. Moreover, as a true investor/speculator you have to take risks and make deductions that people who 'must see financials' are not willing to take.
In my experience, financials are usually never good enough for some and they get very vocal about their displeasure as if BUNM, hypster is Nike or Wells Fargo. I am not particularly worried about financials but yes it can help our cause if they are solid to allay some investors concerns.
IME FB on its own could help us get into 1,000,000 user scenario. This will directly tap us into a base that numbers in the tens of millions.
As for the here and now--200K is a strong base from which we can lift-off to other milestones. I do believe we will all see some exciting and material events for BUNM and related properties in 2008.
The PPS will not be 'stuck' at these levels forever and in due time a new valuation and market consensus should emerge. New buyers will be constrained to take note of heightened growth curve and demand for shares will increase.
(20 day) volume average down to 3.4 million--however, volatility is increasing nearly hitting 900 mark today. Could there news in the pipeline?! I think we ought to be on the lookout for abnormal change in this predictable volume pattern since new year. It's hard to keep news in the pipeline forever--
1-2 6262032
1-3 4035200
1-4 2470000
1-7 1960000
1-8 1000000
1-9 11506400
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5 billion A/S does not mean that we're maxed out to that level currently nor does it mean that this is not capable of running at any given time. As I have stated before, 5 billion for pinkie is no death sentence. Rather reverse splits 1000-1 etc. should be more-feared.
It seems BUNM is postioned for several years to see their plans forward. RISK is going to be a constant and the only way to not risk is to not try. Let's see if CEO judiciously uses the share structure or not.
If I recall FB has 50 million members--so if BUNM can get 1-2% of that pie--do the math. I do not say this growth comes overnight necessarily but with viral networking one hypster super-fan can introduce the service to 5,10,50 or 100 friends-- rapidly and this could bring us strong growth.
Natural growth, FB, Myspace, Banner Ads etc. it all adds up to an increase in user growth and hopefully those coveted return users. Advertiser interest and their dollars inevitably follow. This is a startup business not Microsoft, Nike or anything of the kind.
Yes I stretch reality because that moves us to see the next step; what steps and positive developments would need to occur here to see a major run? What is going to trigger a barrage of buying demand, MM games and speculation...are all possible factors that are going to help move the PPS up or yes down.
It's not what has happened thus far but what is coming down for the future. What are people really waiting for if they are on sidelines to buy or has the main crowd not arrived yet?
If the main crowd hasn't arrived to demand their shares then it's relatively easy to understand being at .0002 rather than being at .0007, .0070 or .02 for that matter.
Call it vision or hope or overly-optimistic but I'm not invested here for my health but because I believe current reality with BUNM is not an accurate picture of anything. I'm interested to see developments whether the market or people here for example see things as good or bad.
I don't trust in CEOs blindly rather I trust in my own research, technical analysis and yes 'gut.' I also glean helpful information from my fellow posters by seeing their version of reality and weighing it accordingly.
I like this fairly 'silent period' actually because when good, great or unexpected news etc. hits then it's going to catch the market by surprise because of unknown timing. This ho-hum trading pattern of .0002 ASK/ .0001 BID does get a bit tedious but I believe when FB app is officially released the trading dynamics are going to provide more interest.
There was a NBC news story yesterday shown on our local affiliate here that had a respected technology 'guru' predicting strong trends for 2008. There were fancy colorful looking laptops, interactive video guitar games but the final prediction was this:
Social networking sites will get greater prominence that ever-before in 2008. These networks are going to prove their value to more of the masses/advertisers etc. I have paraphrased but this was the core of the statement. I wanted to pass this along to the board because many people recognize that social networking on the Web is growing in reach and value.
BUNM is truly a ground floor opportunity or perhaps stated more realistically gamble for those who have invested here. IME there is a real possibility and I stress 'possibility' that when app is released that it will increase usership in an extraordinary manner. I am not talking 50K per month but more like 100-300K + per month. We could see month after month increases if that kind of momentum can occur.
IF such growth can be achieved this will really get some serious attention because the 'writing on the wall' will point inevitably to millions of users in a very short amount of time. Is it plausible to this board that 100 users to 200,000 was achieved in 10 months and that 2,000,000 plus can easily be achieved in a similar period of time on a conservative basis? IME With a successful, functional app BUNM will be on its way to millions of users. Moreover, based on this new dynamic we along with management will be able to glean the chances for tens of millions of users in the next 2-3 years. Once we capture and retain users--we have a huge carrot to dangle before advertisers as well as parties that could be interested in acquiring BUNM
It is not a matter of if but when--this app is going to speed up the growth curve and put us more on that map. I am excited to see the release and yet less-excited to speculate on what this does to PPS. I don't care to some point because the value here grows day by day and I believe that conditions are ripe for value curve to increase--we can only hope that revenues will follow accordingly so we can see higher valuation reflected in PPS. Those who don't see a value here now or haven't heard of BUNM yet should feel more than welcome to buy at .0008, .0050 or .01 depending on when or if they get in this game.
Good LTA
Methinks we are in the calm before the buying volume storm...can anyone out there hear me? lol
I agree CNES's only hope is to diversify operations rather than hit its head against huge AMR competitors. The odds are against them also due to enormous, bloated share structure--I do believe there is a decent chance that there will be a run here in early 2008--although that share structure could greatly limit the PPS movement. It did move several years back from .004-.0028 but that was in days of 15 billion O/S I believe we're basically double that now.
Looking forward to 2008 with the rest of the BUNM Believers:
100 users to (soon to be) 200,000 in 10 months. However, the best is yet to come...Happy New Year All
The 5 billion OS structure is nothing--nothing that buying DEMAND can't solve with speculation thrown in. As company reaches more milestones and usership grows--there will inevitably be more speculation and realistic buyout interest.
It is also vital that investment/upgrades in server capacity (have) and will take place. As I have stated in previous posts--there is a real potential here that growth after official release could be more in 7 figure category over 6 figures due to acceleration of users and yet unseen marketing efforts.
When the app truly goes 'live' we want to capture our share of the market and build upon it and not lose users because of poor technical functionality. Functionality will win over design at this juncture. If functionality is high we will capture and retain users. This usership growth will draw interest from new investors, excite the base and should increase value.
Achieving the best in Web design will come over time. We just need the basic infrastructure in place. 'If you built it--they will come.'
Yes, the intrigue around BUNM as we approach 2008 seems to be increasing along with V/V (volatility and volume.) I agree with other posters about an opportunity for a Buyout in the future. If CEO sticks to stated gameplan I would say the probability is high. In fact, I would have to say that if numbers reach millions anytime soon there could be some initial/serious inquiries.
Some of the bigger players out there are almost desperate to effectively buy market share and for good reason. Cross-selling is one of the most effective means of advertising. hypster.com in particular is playing serve to a demographic with highest discretionary income--in an economy currently seeing a number of recessionary signs. 'New consumers' are what the big boys are looking for whether it's selling labtops, cars, music etc.
The thing I'm most interested in seeing here--yes far beyond PPS daily fluctuations is how the usership growth curve is affected by FB release. How much of percentage change and impact it makes both instantaneously and over first 30 days of release.
The following is totally my opinion and yes dependent on numerous factors outside of my contol such as the economy, user demographics, management decisions but I think that most of us are underestimating the growth curve/time frame formula where usership reaches into millions. I say we may just get there in 20-60 days from FB release.
My basis? you must consider usership-wise how growth went from 100 beta users in March 2007 to nearly 180,000 currently and this was through largely 'natural growth.' Interestingly, one could also make the argument that growth has already been exponential from those early beginnings and there is good reason to believe trend is going to increase.
If compounding accelerates it may truly be amazing to behold where usership is by June/July 2008 and PPS levels should reflect realities accordingly. .0001-.0005 will be firmly in the rear-view mirror as was stated earlier whether .0011, .0040, .01 .0018 etc. or .03 will be the new base.
Finally, what happens to usership #s when viral networking FB app kicks in + word of mouth, banner ads or any other form of advertising kicks in or any number of marketing means that could be at hypster.com BUNMs disposal all come on board? What if shareholders hand-out business cards that on one side say hypster.com and freshtunes.com on the other and hand them out to a hundred people?
So what if only 20 join because those who do will talk/email more. We could truly have a real juggernaught on our hands and many new eyes and $$$s will come wanting in 08. Compounding-Compounding, Compounding let the snowball roll!
Back to a few posts ago..it depends on what the investor is waiting for; 2-3 months may be adequate for a number of investors here or perhaps not.
When FB officially hits it will be interesting to see where/if a new base forms and if we will see a run to levels approximately at .0007-.0008 and if BUNM will be able to hold or fall back to .0004-.0005 level or for that matter .0003
Of course, with FB news there could be a whole set of new dynamics and valuations for the market to consider-so hopefully my prediction will end up being conservative especially for those looking at a 2-3 month timeline or those who are hoping to ride 'free-shares' to a higher level.
Finally, for a stock that is supposedly so diluted it's interesting how relatively little buying volume takes this up 100% +(.0001) like today. This also occurred on the 10th and whether you believe it's MM games or real buying it shows the PPS is more-liquid than some may believe.
Volume and volatility are increasing. Could it be end of the year trading activity or is something else in the pipeline? It will be interesting to see what happens for the rest of the week.
Last four trading days Volume/Volatility:
4,250,000 volatility 764.90
11,039,998 " 773.00
22,692, 231 " 796.30
58,885,000 " 804.30
I am interested to see a 500 + million volume day with strong buyer demand and its resultant effect on PPS
If this type of volume can occur over multiple day scenario; those who are proclaiming 'heavy dilution' may start thinking otherwise. Such momentum could theoretically bring us a buying demand trigger-type of day 300 + million, 500 + million and then 700-900 million.
I do see a capability for billion volume days. Yes this would be changing many old bagholders for new but such an event with its volume could turn many heads this way. Other stocks with far less going for them have seen such runs as far as into or approaching the billion mark.
IME/IMO the above is possible for 2008 and there is some probability of this type of run before end of 2007 in anticipation of guidance and also unknown news that could hit before the new year. Forgetting conspiracy theories and pointing more to human nature--a large spike in volume here will portend that news is in the pipeline. This unknown quantity could induce further buying pressure from those who recognize the pattern--followed by 'late-buyers' who will pad the momentum curve. Human nature never changes and buying behavior will be tied very closely to the greed and fear of all involved.
It would be interesting to see how the market would react if news was FB app fully online and then a silent period as far as user growth for 90 days from the company. While it is gratifying to see usership--it is also used by some parties to minimize the substantial growth that is occurring. I mean it's never good enough for some people and alternately others must raise doubt that PPS will ever leave .0002 ASK .0001 BID
I continue to feel good about BUNM in that there is numerical/percentage growth occurring by the minute, week, hour. Sooner or later these numbers will be correlated with actual income streams and PPS will better match the true present and even future value with (speculative spikes) on the way up.
The unfolding of share structure has changed some minds or perhaps more accurately evoked fear but this company is truly still in its infancy and any/all holders; we hope to see baby grow up real quick and more-importantly strong. CEO seems to be prepared for such a possibility and must be prepared for millions of users that will be coming in the tent (2008.) Once higher level of growth occurs, BUNM will be in a different position with resultant challenges as well as we hope new and exciting business opportunities.
Everyone have a great weekend!
Volume drying up over the last few days--however, this could be indicative of news waiting in the pipeline or like a starving man;--an opportunity for a much greater (buying) appetite to be developed.
In any case, this dynamic could create greater upward volatility upon 'major' news. After all we need DEMAND With official FB announcement(20-60days?) it would be nice to see .0002s be eaten up and see new base of holders @ .0003-.0004.
We need shorties/flippers to come in and help budge up the price. The FB app announcement is a given but its effect on the usership numbers is a great speculative unknown. I am looking forward to this 'effect' with great interest. Current FB beta user data is simply put 'peanuts.'
IME The current number will be quickly forgotten upon the official release. After all, as of March 07 there was an obscure 100 beta users of hypster if I recall--if history repeats then exponential growth in usership, page views will soon be in order.
Thanks to all of those who have given me a vote of confidence as an assistant mod. I do want to continue to be helpful by providing DD that is based out of experience, studies and yes deductions. I do want to provide quality DD and contribute to the collective understanding and be here for the ups and downs that inevitably come.
When I first started investing in pennies I focused more on companies that told a 'good story' but now I base my decisions first on technical analysis and then move-out from there. You can't argue with technical indicators and BUNM is intriguing because the potential upside is dramatic and human nature mix never changes.
Greed and fear always come to fuel the market and it gives longs, momentum traders or 'flippers' their day in the sun. Our PPS trigger good or bad may be the state of economy, trends in society or something that falls far outside the scope of official PR A similar property or lesser may sell for far beyond our wildest dreams and we could see a real benefit.
There is a market for BUNM and that is undeniable and to some at these levels .0001-.0003 disappointing'--some of us may someday dream of .02 but all things being equal--none of this means that the market value is actually ever right. Like a false wall, all is not what it appears to be. Several factors, parties and events are keeping us down at current levels but it's but a day in the life of BUNM
It always intrigues me to think of the historical example called (Microsoft) that was valued by the market at .86 cents a share in the mid-to late 80s. The company was truly in relative infancy and on the cusp of a technological revolution but the masses overlooked it. They were priming a structure on which to build and it wasn't going to be overnight.
The Alexa ranking is no so small matter. This affects bottom line $$$ in a major way. I personally pay more attention to this than any other factor and I am sure that the list of advertisers and prospective advertisers are keenly watching as well. There is no question that user growth and reach are increasing--however, the value of BUNM is relative to many at this juncture. Is it because of different expectations or are there some here to don't really see the value?
Those who are waiting on early 08 numbers seem to want 'actual value' whereas those of us already in have obviously had to make speculative deductions to some point. There are always going to be unknowns and BUNM is going to be (and is) no exception. The release of financials does not guarantee a PPS increase anymore than FB official rollout will move this to .0006
The true value to the masses here is seemingly hazy or undefined. I mean I personally have been involved in a likely 100% fluff stock that moved from .0004 to .0028 with 15 billion O/S and no contracts or anything discernible
There was so much hunger, speculation and intrigue for supposedly earth-shattering news that buying demand + MM cooperation equaled 7 X bagger for those who got out.
I pointed out Alexa ranking to someone who has been very successful in the domain resale industry and they were very impressed with hypster.com numbers and this was back when ranking was at 105,000 several months back.
This was coming from someone who believes in such data in a major way and uses it to help gauge the best buys in his industry. I didn't buy shares based on this but I highly respect this coming from someone who deals with 6 figure domain transactions on a regular basis and yes someone who has far, far greater experience in this area than me. IMO The Alexa ranking is one of the best if not best thing going for hypster right now.
I wonder perhaps if the Alexa data at our fingertips is dampening enthusiasm for buying. How would holders react if you bought in March 07 and then BUNM CEO announced proudly that 150,000 + had signed on?! end of November 2007. If the latter had occurred, it would seem rather likely that buying pressure would be intense since 1500% growth of any entity or operation should be noticed!
IME The frog is going to get boiled here but the water is slowly, maybe even moderately getting warmer.
I wonder if froggy is going to boil nuclear with official FB app up and running and given 30-60 days?
I mean when a real pernicious, unstoppable viral epidemic hits and spreads what's it all going to look like?
I guess in my wildest speculation BUNM experiences major compounding in the sense that the next 100,000 users tell 5-10-100 of their friends--who take a suggestion very well called SIGNING UP--and well you get the picture...we could get into millions of users with compounding working to our distinct favor and many new eyes will be looking here.
There are unknowns but I am still intrigued and excited to take my own personal chances here.
Oh my the sky is falling--
The CEO has laid out groundwork for funding venture(s) and the minimum wage bashers are out and proclaiming 'dilution, dilution, dilution.' This has as much ability to run as any pinkie but if you are a true long why do we care if it runs or not. hypster is the anchor property here and it's growing at a nice clip. The CEO is working toward multiple streams of income and this company is going to be solvent for at least 1 year.
Need I say that the biggest hurdle for startup enterprises is running out of money. It seems the CEO is not wanting to experience such a situation. The most promising concept or brand or service needs a certain amount of funding. Who here wouldn't spend a million to make 2-10 million more?
What I'm curious about is what PR or speculation is going to bring in a new base of holders to buy at .0003 + I mean if you are a true long why should you care about buying a bunch at ask through .0001-.0005 if you believe that this has ETIM type of potential(now in pennies) as mentioned by Matt earlier? I sincerely hope that those who are on sidelines waiting for more cheap shares .0001-.0002 don't lose their opportunity to increase their position. Inevitably, when the larger FB audience starts coming in the tent--a number of these may want a literal piece BUNM action.
Finally, I hope that all posters stop relaying any/all of their personal information from the CEO. It cannot be substantiated and it can actually defeat substantive runs here because so many sell on 'news' whereas people truly to tend to buy on speculation.
The MMs are winning hearts and minds here by trying to portray this at very diluted and saying it never runs. Let CEO do his job which should be building maximum value for all involved here--not doing individual PRs. IMO We have had so many unofficial 'PRs' here that it may be depressing demand.
All that is here is a psychological wall of frankly too much realism coupled with the usual conservatism. The CEO growth numbers are indeed highly conservative and are very calculated to that end. IMO the CEO believes this to have much greater promise and wants to exceed the markets expectations. 5 billion is a reasonable share structure--I am supportive of this blueprint as long as the scale makes sense. If this runs out of money we're all simply dead $$$- or else we are left to an R/S or an endless stream of toxic financing schemes.
I personally want this to run to have an option of 'free-shares' but also because it's a natural way to grow a healthier base. MMs are not totally to blame for runs not going anywhere, demand must be strong and people should not reveal upcoming 'news' because that is a momentum killer. Let the majority keep guessing because then they will have to chase the price rather than 'wait for their right price.' This builds the base--Let's focus on letting this thing unfold and see what full FB rollout is going to do to growth numbers. I do believe this has a potential for exponential growth and the company has to be ready for any/all contingencies.
It will be interesting to see if MMs start moving .0001s amongst themselves to try to shake things up. Accumulation/Distribution is showing that we are well into the handle (cup/handle formation). Buying volume trigger is needed and this could fly.
With some upcoming strong news or (speculation) .0003s and .0004s could be swallowed up rapidly and a more-dramatic run over .0010 might even be in order.
Accumulation/Distribution is but one indicator but it is clear from a number of technicals that trend is leaning toward PPS upside.
In addition, the greed of MMs may not be satisfied with moving .0001 to -.0002 when they can get .0001 or (lower) and sell them at .0005-.0010 + for some very nice profits.
This isn't the exact article but the one you have linked to is probably just as good--if not better than the one I read today. The one I read earlier was Riva Richmond's daily column? rather than an actual 'article.'
Thanks
For those who want more insight and understanding about Facebook check out article 'Facebook, a Marketer's Friend' at wsj.com by Riva Richmond 11-27-07 I apologize for not having link but check it out The article definitely applies to where we stand currently with hypster but is more of a general article about Facebook's impact for a number of entities and individuals.
Congratulations to all involved in (soon to be) achieving 150,000 benchmark. March to now = (1500% user growth rate) 100-150,000 in nine months! Math is not my forte but I wanted to throw that out
--oh and for fun what do BUNM ers think will be usership #s in 9 months from now??? specifically (August 2008)
Do we see low, moderate, high or exponential growth?
kevinmac6,
You ask a thought-provoking question about what a buyout down the line will look like? I don't know exactly since it could involve dividends, a new exchange/ticker and a host of other possibilities. IMO the speculation on a buyout and an announcement of terms would solify share value in .01 or higher + range and hold. Why? because many 'longs' would have to think really hard about not selling off into such an incredible PPS increase without an acquisition on the horizon! It would add guidance and stability for true longs.
In event of a straight acquisition--I think the purchaser might be very tempted to pay above and beyond. After all, who here really knows the true value of BUNM? I mean if I had 5 million bucks for an offer and thought this had a potential in 6 months for a value of 20 million it would be a no-brainer. This might sound simplistic to some but often deep-pockets can and do take risks that others don't even consider. This is why they have the deepest pockets. hypsters market share is relatively small at present but will the picture look prettier in 30-60 days for usership. I think the consensus is YES.
This could veritably be anywhere between 0 to 5 million today and so let's say that the market and (or book value) in six months is 7-10 million and a larger player believes they can take it to the next level and it's worth 20 million to them so they pay 25,000,000 in order to beat out any competitors. I believe such a scenario would do wonders for this PPS--speculation could run this to a penny but a strong acquisition could solidify these gains further into the pennies and maybe beyond.
If indeed the CEO is indeed moving incrementally as has been indicated then I think there is a case for the above scenario. Why wouldn't he want to advertise the heck out of this and get a million new users a month? It seems he is very interested in being meticulous and building a strong base and good reputation. Ok, I guess simple put: BUNM should be known for quality experience over quantity. This will help it 'stand-out' as a great user experience tied in with the Facebook name.
Not saying I believe he is not going to aggressively advertise...but alternately it could be very profitable for him and core holders if share structure continues to be attractive with a minimum of dollars being expended to grow the usership. Then the bigger players have to weigh their greed and fear in 'taking this baby to the next level.'
Final point; if 'word of mouth' can create dramatic results then just imagine what a concerted national or international campaign could do for BUNM--hypster.com in particular! We probably don't need that though because as this goes 'viral' it will find and retain users who will come back repeatedly and spread the word to their own particular online community.
Gates is on line 1 and Murdoch on line 2...lol
Wishing everyone here a very Happy Thanksgiving and remember to Pass the Salt as you are politely asked...
I am one of those who believe that an objective of BUNM management would be moving toward a buyout and likely in tens of millions range. Moving to a bigger board doesn't really seem to make a great deal of sense because cost might outweigh gains. If the growth curve can easily be discerned then I feel that bigger players should will likely be willing to pay a much greater premium with a measure of speculation thrown in. It takes money to make money and in this case to buy a loyal and growing user base especially since it's geared to the High School age-group (high level of disposable income).
I am also looking forward to guidance coming in 2008 with some hard numbers in order to correlate this with usership growth rate but also agree with posters who think the best guidance currently is found in hypster growth numbers.
By chance has anyone come up with percentage of growth YTD for hypster? That's a nice number and (dramatic one) to pass onto friends or whoever...in the period of time preceding Facebook app officially online :)
Since this app will be highly conducive to so called 'viral networking' it will be extremely interesting to see the actual growth curve emerge. It will be exciting to see the official roll-out take place in the next 1-45 days. I personally don't care for too many PRs unless they are substantive and timed to keep casual investors and MMs and bashers surprised. MMs are going to make their money but it's great to see them move PPS around to loosen up shares. Hopefully we will have a fun and profitable $$$ ride!
I will not use paragraphs until we break .0005
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I beg to politely differ with those who think that millions of users would not constitute a value. This represents a tremendous value because a large number of users will be repeat users and bring friends along for the ride. Talking about demographics is a subject for a later date. Hypster should be able to offer what advertisers are coveting in the new age--and social networking affords the great maxim that don't spend advertising dollars if you can't measure it. So much of old advertising thinking is going to the wayside because simply put it does not work anymore. If more tennis shoes can be sold through social networking internet sites than during TV commercials (oops Tivo) then dollars are going to go into most-effective venues. If hypster is able to continue on its way it will become more and more attractive to advertising entities and also much larger players who may have acquisition objectives at some point. Microsoft is on the record for example with pockets willing to spend 25 million to 1 billion for promising internet properties. Let me make it clear--we have seen a huge merger mania and acquisition desire from Wall Street over the last few years and now the great 'land rush' IMO is going to be to get as much market share online as possible. Larger players may get almost reckless in what they are willing to pay. A speculative value if you will is going to trump those who are going to wait on book value or letting their accountant analyze the balance sheet before they invest a dime. Not everyone enjoys the gift of vision--but this property has some very interesting factors working in its favor. I am simply amazed that when I got in several months ago that Alexa was at 105k and now it's at 72K range. Hypster now has its foot firmly in the door and this alone is significant and shouldn't be dismissed as easy to do. It does take know-how and it does take a certain amount of money to fund ventures. As for what happens when this FB application is tweaked to greater perfection--it may just astound casual observers. There is a possibility and I restate possibility that sooner than some expect--a dramatic PPS run will occur here because anything under .0050 or .01 or ..0030 will seem like a bargain. Greed and fear will always factor in. Whether it holds at a .0020 or .01 etc. is not the point. Such an event will attract investors who don't look at subs but rather like to buy at .01 etc. Flippers will come in, longs, momentum players etc. for various parts of the ride. Stay on the train, jump off do whatever you choose but I have sniffed around enough issues to know that BUNM is an uncommon opportunity, gamble whatever one wishes to call it. BUNM is in its infancy but may just get to 'grow up' in a sector that has growing investor and acquisition interest. Many areas of the country are having or have experienced huge downturns in sectors (like real estate) so I believe that people are on the hunt to put their monies in mid to highly speculative plays. I personally believe that the markets are now being infused with cash that formerly would have been put into real estate. Inevitably more of this 'available money' could trickle this way and move PPS to higher levels. MMs are currently hovering around this issue as hawks or vultures take your pick. It will be interesting to see them hedge their bets as to where and when this will go. My only advice to myself and others who are interested is to try to think about this as a MM and also try to keep as much greed and fear out of the equation as possible. Take it for what it's worth but I personally have bought 4 X more stock here than I typically do based on first my own technical analysis, research and yeah my gut feeling on what the value here already is. I tend to be a long-term holder and see no good reason to not be at this early juncture. All of the above are my opinions, deductions and yes out of my personal experience with a number of other pennies; the good and the bad. Time for lunch
As I read many of these posts--I feel better about my investment in this because of an emergence of those who seem to underestimate the value that is already here and also a much greater upside that will be coming. Moreover, I relish the arrival of anything that remotely constitutes as 'bashing' because it beckons great volatility ahead and also attempts by certain parties to keep PPS down. Relatively speaking, we are now talking still about the infancy of a company and a brand name. It is really just getting started and yet a number of posters here think that it's all going to be overnight. As for supposed cry of 'dilution' it seems current share structure left open a door for CEO to presumably grow the business model. Would certain posters here prefer the 'toxic financing' be engaged which would suck the life out of this before it ever truly begins?! The CEO has a vested interest in BUNM and it's called millions and not dollars. I do not give blind trust to any CEO because I have seen numerous examples of massive dilution, massive salaries and no real prospects for success. Rewards should come after success and not before. Bulk of monies from stock sales should be put into profitable use--in this case preparing an infrastructure for sustainable or even exponential growth. I do not know Michael personally, however I will give him a benefit of doubt based on competent performance and also because I believe it in his interest to attain a total success for this endeavor. Based on some research, I think bigger players are unwilling to gamble on losing out to 'the next big thing.' Repeated Web traffic and the consumer loyalty are worth millions and Wall Street and others are taking watch. For anyone who cares--my analysis of BUNM is currently--limited 'dilution,' conservative CEO floating off equity and huge upside for success with multiple possible income streams about to come on-line. This engine is just getting started. CEO is not overly concerned nor does he have universal remote control over the PPS! He has enough on his plate in getting profitability and moving to a bigger stage. If my analysis changes because of situation then I am free to sell into a run or get out for a loss etc or buy more. I would hope that posters understand that 'dilution' does not mean disease. 'Dilution' on a limited and intelligent basis can be a sound and not 'fatal' approach. Anyone who is acquainted with micro-penny stocks will know that the so-called 'dilution' of present is comparatively speaking nada. There are stocks with 15 billion maxed out O/S that have moved .0010 + daily on nothing but speculation and have no real potential or revenue streams of any real consequence. The paper-wall at .0005 is not going to last forever and it will be exciting when this runs for real.
It's amazing how MM manipulation suddenly becomes 'dilution.' Even if the float has increased somewhat it doesn't take away that MMs can make buys appear as sells and despite recent scrutiny naked shorting could also be at play here. I wish there was zero tolerance with naked shorting but there still appears to be room for manipulation. It would seem the majority of longs (including this one) are not in certificate form so MMs can seemingly pull a rabbit out of hat and PPS doesn't budge much. For those who aren't familiar with naked shorting--I would simply say that we consider the possibility that it is occurring here. Unquestionably there are a substantial amount of MMs hovering around this issue. Despite this, I believe speculation, exponential growth of users and yes PRs are going to blow the lid off this one. There are similar pennies out there with 5X the float that have moved in increments of .0010 + and I might add were nothing but speculation plays. I am not going to throw out a PPS prediction but I think the magic number for dramatic moves upward will be when we attain 500 million volume day. This will be a signal that new holders are entering building and a new support base will have formed to the longs benefit. Also, this tends to reinforce a possibility of naked shorting when huge volume comes in and PPS movement mysteriously lags. Ironically, BUNM suffers lol from a largely realistic group of longs who tend to look at fundamentals. I believe that this will move mostly on speculation and that major movements will be coming before official news release. CEO has stated above he is not focusing on PPS but rather on building the brand and making sure he has a winner. I also believe this to be the case because either the CEO can take relative pennies now or take tens of millions later when hypster is sold to a Microsoft-type entity who covets 500K-1,000,000 users signaling huge growth to come. Bigger players do have deep pockets but they also are savvy enough to recognize winners and buy them out before acquisition becomes too expensive or fear of losing out to a major competitor. Hypster is still in its infancy but will move to another phase of its development when Facebook app is sufficiently ready for wide public consumption.
Alexa traffic count now at 78901!
I would like to welcome myself to the board and investorshub lol Actually I hope to contribute some quality DD and also provide some of my deductions in respect to BUNM I apologize for not having a link but earlier this week I read an article at reuters.com that explained Microsoft's strategy will be focused in the coming years on buying viable social networking entities 50 million to 1 billion range. I believe that hypster is on the right track to be acquired by a bigger player in the next 12-18 months for a very substantial markup. I am not claiming that Microsoft is specifically eyeing hypster or freshtunes but that the possibility will greatly increase as alexa numbers move up, Facebook app rolls and company moves forward with their business plan. I am long on this one and am not concerned with 'blips' on radar like a move from say .0002-.0003 I got into this one mainly based on technical analysis and am very confident that it will perform over the long haul.