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If we were to use pyschology to get to the bottom of this, wouldn't we find that KSWJ goes against conventional thinking, in that they do not try to use a lot of creative and persuasive wording in their news releases to attract new investors and to console restless investors?
Their PR's are direct, cold, and to the point.
There is no "smooth" talking, nor any attempt to try to "blow smoke" at the reader of the PR's.
KSWJ only tries to convey their message in a grammatically economical way. There are no opinions, no suggestive language in their PR's. There is no "sales pitch".
It would seem to me that if they were out to scam investors that their talk/wording would be more dramatic and influential. There would be a feeling of a sales pitch in their message.
Am I making too much out of very little?
I'm not so sure.......
Energomash's web site makes no mention of any relationship with KSWJ.
None.
What recourse do we have?
Can we press the SEC to get info relevant to this JV?
How can we answer the JV question?
Can't the SEC get to the bottom of the JV allegations?
What can the SEC demand of KSWJ?
Can the SEC grant investor demands that contact information be reported and posted?
Can the SEC get vital info out of Energomash?
We, the investors, obviously can't?
So who can?
The new PR stated that KSWJ "plans to proceed with all the required filings...."
What kind of "filings"?
Filings to fulfill the SEC investigation requirments?
Or filings to update company information for investor interest only?
I have also emailed Energomash.
Waiting on reply.
Has Energomash confirmed that they have joined in a venture with KSWJ?
This absolutely needs to be confirmed for us to believe in KSWJ.
Absolutely!!!
adapt2evolve:
I got your message.
Thanks very, very much.
Talk to me, ninja.
Talk to me!!!!
Help, please.
I follow on IHub 4 stocks, one being RSHN.
All the other 3 had long-awaited PR's released today.
And I mean, long-awaited.
I was wondering if the June 1 date was a pivotal date, as far as releasing info to the public.
Did the June 1 date play a role in the release of the PR's?
Or was it just a collosal coincidence?
Wow! You the man, Eddie!
Oh, you are absolutely right!
I know that to hit is the recommended strategey.
However, it is a strategy that typically fails and falls in vain.
Remember, the dealer does NOT always have a "made" hand.
Many times the dealer will have to hit, too.
So, just let HIM bust.
While you stay pat, and don't risk an almost certain loss should you have hit.
Quick Blackjack lesson:
Never -- NEVER! -- hit on a 13, 14, 15, 16, no matter what the dealer is showing.
If you are wanting to hit because you feel the dealer has a "made hand", then there are so, so FEW cards that can help you that it is almost meaningless to hit at the risk of busting.
So if you think the dealer has a 10-card underneath his 10-card that is up, you would have to get a 6-card or a 5-card when you held a 15, just to win or tie.
You have to draw a 5 or a 6, in that example.
Only 2 ranks help you. No other cards/ranks help you.
So if there are 13 ranks -- ie, duece thru Ace -- your chances of NOT losing are only 2/13, IF the dealer has a 20.
So why risk busting out over trying to make a 2:13 chance play?
Best play: Stay, and hope that the dealer busts.
What is the current bid and ask?
This McD's talk isn't funny, guys.....
Unless you REALLY know something?.....
Now......do you?........
YES!!!
News has posted to Pink Sheets.com.
I'm not accusing YOU.
I'm just suspicious of anything floating around out there.
Never know who may have planted that info.
We had a bogus PR posting to another thread/stock this week.
Proved to be bogus.
So I'm cautious.
News has yet to post to Yahoo Finance.
Can we confirm?
Confirmation: Is this genuine news?
Not a bogus PR?
Can we confirm?
Gamood --
Come out of the darkness, and into the light....
Come clean on the "M" word.....
Cough up what you know...........
How do you arrive at $.07?
ANd what has to transpire for ATWT's pps to get there?
And do you have a time frame for that $.07?
Thanks, vlftraders.
Sorry, Sling.....make that a "Mac e-water".
Can't be sold at McDonalds and be called anything but a "Mac"-whatever, right?
OK, Ninjaturtle....spill the beans...
Are you inferring that Lynch has connections with McDonalds, and a contract is emminent between RUSH and McD's?
Come clean, sailor!!!!!
Good post shooter.
Bob has a plan.
No one here is just throwing darts at a board, guessing what's next. Not Bob.
Insiders buying?
What's with this thing?
I wanted to get in at .0001 or .0002.
The volume.....who's buying and on what news?
sno wolf -- did you get filled at .0001 ???
Robbie seems to know a lot and wants you to know that he knows a lot.
He told us the contract was near completion and that it was for $2.5M.
Now, how does he know that? And why is he telling the world when the parties involved are keeping quiet? And he knows that they want to keep things silent.....Yet he talks.....
So Janice, am I looking more and more like a fool for considering KSWJ a good buy?
You can be honest.....I'm a big boy, now.....
By "they're saying" you mean KSW Inc.???
So you are saying that there may really be a "KSW Industries", but it's an entirely different company than "our" KSWJ?
I'm confused by your message?
Printing labels in 5 different languages? WOW!!!
But why no Chinese labels?
5 languages tells me that something BIG is up.
Don't you sense it, too?
This is at the very hub of our concern of legitimacy -- Is the joint venture with KSWJ or with KSW Inc?
If it is proven to be NOT with KSW Inc., then we are in.
This point is at the very crux of our dilemma here. We have evidence of a JV that involves a company called "KSW whatever".
If it is absolutely NOT KSW Inc, then it MUST BE a JV that involves KSWJ, for there are no other "KSW's" on record.
And that would then mean that KSWJ is a legitimate entity.
And then perhaps they really DO HAVE a legitmate product, ie the EM-100.
I only ask, then, is it possible to concoct a bogus Joint Venture, and have it shown as legitimate on record?
In the meantime, it seems that to buy in now would be a very good move, for the risk has been "lessened" with the proof that KSWJ is a legitimate entity with an invention/product that appears to be in the patent stage.
Our DD, therefore, needs to be focused on the US Patent Office, where we need to discover if that EM-100 patent has been submitted.
You get that info, you have then figured it all out.
Is it that simple?
Or have I left something out?
Have I made it too simple?
I want to get in. Now seems to be a great time.
The risk seems -- no, make that, IS -- smaller than the usual sub-penny, for we have confirmed the existence of a legitimate entity that has big-time potential.
Unless you see problems I haven't touched on, unless you know more than I, I am going thru with a purchase in a few days.
Are you going to talk me out of it?
I'm all ears.......
They wouldn't have put their name out on StockGuru.com just to see the company flounder, now would they?
This will be good for us in a year or so.
Hang on tight~!!
Thanks, stockound.
what is the current ask price?
A very powerful post by you, my friend.
Your post screams a high probability of success for the stock.
Now, why, WHY can't we get the company to release some news?
Why!?!
so you are almost certain that this is KSWJ's patent and not KSW Inc.'s patent?
You feel certain that it is KSWJ and not KSW Inc that has a JV with Energo?
I want you for my Marketing agent.