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Why not wait and see what happens? Nobody on this board knows what Saleen is going to do with the Tesla or how the relationship between the 2 will be.
Some cases weren't found against Saleen.
Also, where are all these cases listed? I searched several different ones and found nothing at all.
Well I can say that Saleen has never and would NEVER post negative about a customer lemon law case or regarding any matter.
He wasn't fired plain and simple. You have no proof of it. Anything that is out there about it says he left. No where online that is public does it say otherwise. You can't prove anything other then saying it happened and if you had to provide proof you could but you are not... Because you can't.
I could say that steve made $500k a year back then... There is nothing posted online about it but I can prove it but I don't have to so I won't. Me saying something like that, how trusting do I sound?
Every post includes that your "comments are your opinion"... And that is EXACTLY what they are regarding this subject.
Before it was steve getting fired. Then something else and then something else and now this just to try to put bad PR out about them.
I know if we started to do the same on let's say TESLA, the same type of cases would pop up but prob even more.
Another thing is you must not know much about lemon law and how easy it is to get it bought back or a settlement and keeping the vehicle on lemon law. You can say I "hear" a noise. Take it back a few times and file lemon law on it. It does and has happened. I have personally dealt with lemon law vehicles that had a rattle in the roof, or a small in the hatch area of a SUV or mini van that were bought back.
So really what does this list have anything to do with other then just complaining about Saleen again?
Now that is some great Tesla customer service lol
Every manufacture has its own problems. Just picking apart Saleen is all this is.
I know who SMS is... Didn't say I didn't.
What I did say is that is NOT the address for them... They have been located at the campus in corona,ca since SMS was formed.
Another thing is SMS changed to Saleen once he won the name back in court so actually it was before the merger. But SMS and Saleen are the same and located at the same address in corona,ca.
Oh ya, great review about SMS but a few problems with it...
1: Saleen/SMS is NOT located in Anaheim, CA it is located in Corona,CA
2: Do a search of the address on this review and it goes to this business: http://www.eleganzatiles.com/contactus.html
3: I can tell you that IF that is a true review that someone from Saleen/SMS would have taken care of it for him. Especially when you look at the same persons other reviews... They are nothing but complaints of complaint and more complaints. So it looks like to me this person is hard to please with anything at all. So I don't trust what this person says at all.
Its called social media... Its the biggest way to do advertising and the easiest way to show what progress they are making or what they are working on each day.
I'm pretty sure when they are close, we will not see as Mich of this and then a big press release of the vehicle.
Wait and see on the release of products. Tesla S, 2015 Mustang etc.
Well, let's wait and see what happens. I disagree completely that they will NOT produce the Tesla s. It will happen.
Its Saleen doing there R&D on the Tesla S.
Just wait till they release more about it. I think we will be seeing it more complete at the Saleen show in September.
1: Yes they did ship them to Florida do the new dealer they have, Naples Motorsports. No sign of selling them at a discounted price to that dealer and freight is paid for by the dealer.
2. Saleen is selling 3 trim levels for 3 different base prices. The make money on the White Label as well as the other 3.
3. No proof that they order 1 at a time... "probably" means nothing as there is no proof.
4. Saleen is building cars and shipping them. They are working on the R&D of the Tesla and also working on the 2015 Mustang. More details to come out soon on both.
Bottom line, Saleen has been shipping cars all over the USA for many many years. They have offered different trim levels for many many years. And the stock went up again today with HUGE volume. Guess the volume increase did nothing but push the stock up?.?.
Well it is what it is... lol
IT is currently down 75% from its 52 week high but up 168% from its low. Those are impressive numbers IMO.
I will not say to buy or not to buy the stock as every investor needs to make there own decision on how they want to invest there own money.
I will say that this stock is going to go up and down but once they release the 2015 Mustang and also officially put both that and the Tesla available to buy I'm sure it will go up.
Its looking good for Saleen right now IMO!
Good Job! Now just wait and see what happen.
It will get there. Moving nicely today.
So the volume goes up today and so does the price! Go SLNN!!!
What is false about Saleen working on the Tesla S? There is NOTHING false about that one bit.
So I am understanding this correctly...
You want him to CALL and ask them when you say you "emailed" and didn't call? You shared your "concerns" and this exec "shared your concerns"? I could say that I also emailed whomever about whatever, but it doesn't make it credible.
But regardless, who cares? Does it really matter that much to continue to argue about it?
Hmmm... But this so called "distortion" that I posted about pretty much instantly stopped all the chat about his pay? It reads the following in the 10-K:
You gotta spend money to make money.
So the focus has gone from how Steve makes $20k a month and bleeding the company of money to live a high lifestyle which we know according to the 10-K that is NOT true since he did NOT get paid and actually loaned the company money.
But now how they have done PR about the announcement of the Tesla Project?
They are not linking anything... Just announcing a new vehicle they are working on. How would you like them to announce that they are working on this vehicle? Not like they can announce it and not say they are working on the Tesla which unfortunately as you said "links" them together. There is no way to get around that.
This is no different then what he has been doing with the mustang since 1984.
No different then a company spending millions on advertising something new they are working on or coming out with. In this case it only cost $5000.00. With the way social media works these days, this is a cheap way to get the word out on the street of what is upcoming for them.
Something else is that I knew before the 351 was coming out that they were working on it. The same thing would have been said that they aren't going to do it... Its never going to happen etc etc. But it did.
Well, when I read it there is never a mention of a "partnership" which would be the word to use if they were working together... Or "working with tesla" would be another. Working "ON" a Tesla is just that, working on it not WITH them.
Tesla isn't working with Saleen... Why do people keep saying that?
They are currently doing r&d to produce a Saleen version of the tesla S yes, but not working with Tesla.
It could happen to ANY company. Who would have thought GM would have filed BK for an example.
Anything could happen with Saleen but they are not using it as a PR ploy because they are and will do the Tesla. Could they file bk... Sure they could. I personally don't think they will but that is my personal opinion. I don't care if anyone else disagrees with me as this is my own opinion.
And don't forget about the 2015 mustang. Which again IMO we will be seeing more about it at the Saleen show in September.
Problem is anything outside of sec filings is opinion and nothing more. Where you could have proven your opinion to actual be a fact didn't happen. Without any proof of any opinion, the opinion means nothing at all. You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else. But when anyone says "this happened or that happened" but everything that is available says otherwise, that says something to me.
I can't wait for Saleen to show off the 2015 mustang and the Tesla S and then be able to order both because at that point it will be just a new excuse as to Saleen not doing that... Or getting ready to file bk or something else.
I'm in for the long of Saleen and will continue to stand behind them as they haven't shown me differently. And in my opinion, I'm also waiting for this week to be a few cent increase in the stock price.
We will trust your "opinion" more once you provide the proof that you stated you had regarding steve being fired.
At this point, everything posted is an opinion and the only facts is what's quoted from the sec filings.
It is a beautiful car in person. Pics and video do not do justice for the car. It sounds awesome too! I have been around and driven several PJ cars and the PJ was really quick so I can only imagine how the GF car is. I hoping to be able to drive one sometime soon.
Another quick one is the new 351. It also sounds awesome! It only has 700+ HP under the hood lol
Steve is doing the right things to bring out these Heritage cars and being limited like the PJ will allow them to hold there value well. Them starting to pump these GF cars out will also help see an increase in sales numbers for the upcoming quarters.
Honestly, at this point we all know that they are indeed working on the Saleen Tesla S. Its just a matter of time till we hear more details about it as time goes on. Which I feel will be within the next couple of months.
Tesla... Saleen... No involvement... Its Saleen's R&D project so no Tesla wouldn't have any involvement in the R&D.
I agree with you as well. They aren't going to just dump the stock every month as they will wait and see to make back more money on the stock.
In the coming months more product information will be released and will allow the stock to continue to go up from the low it just hit this week.
We have the Saleen Tesla and the 2015 Saleen Mustang which will continue to be developed and released. I feel we will be seeing more about both especially the 2015 mustang by the time Saleen has there annual car show in Sept which it wouldn't surprise me for them to show it off at the show.
Reliable because you say so? Reliable would be something from the execs not some girl that is just a spokesperson and not involved with day to day operations.
LOL So because a SPOKESPERSON says they have no involvement it must be true right?
Again, there has never been a public release from Tesla Execs stating otherwise. If that was to happen then we can believe it to be true... Not a spokesperson.
At this point if it wasn't true Tesla Execs would have put out a press release stating that Saleen and Tesla were NOT working together as it is nothing new that Saleen is currently doing R&D on it.
According to someone asking an engineer but can't say who they talked to??? Really, an engineer knows everything that the company is involved in? There has been NO report directly from Tesla about this so stop bringing something up that isnt true until we hear a direct statement from Telsa execs.
Rebrand Saleen? That doesn't make sense.
Add additional models to attract new buyers and investors? Thats more like it.
Obviously, you haven't heard Steve speak at all recently about how EV vehicles are a growing market and that Saleen wants to tap into that market.
I don't think Saleen or any investor is lost at all...
Why copy and paste the same thing again and again?
Clogging the forum with the same crap again and again is really not needed.
Something that would be new to post is the proof you were suppose to supply us 2 days ago but then all of the sudden you remembered its "locked up" with HR... Lol
Well, stock is up basically 100% from its all time low of $.05 a few days ago. Hopefully it can continue its move up.
HR from what company... HPA, Saleen Inc, Pext Inc? Which company would it be since HPA quickly changed the company name from Saleen Inc to Pext Inc just to cash out the $2.3 million they sold the assets for to MJ?
Again, you were the one that stated you would produce proof BUT NOW you say they are locked up in HR... Before you said that you would produce proof you would have also known that it was "locked up" like you just said in your last post. But now your done with this subject because there is no proof to provide and never has but the HR thing is a good excuse to get around not providing the information to support your claim since I have been pressuring you since your post yesterday stating you would supply it.
A quote from post #2736 you made:
I was just quoting what you said you would do, which was provide proof that he was fired... Link, document etc. Whatever proof you have please share. You said it so prove it.
And that is NOT his house. It use to be but it is not his now. It was sold in 2012. Thats how I know he is NOT living there. And regardless, what does it have to do with the SLNN stock?
Your personal experience is just that, personal experience. We don't know who you are or what you had involvement with Steve... IF anything at all for that matter. If you did the only thing that comes to mind is that you are with HPA... Thats the only thing that makes sense to me.
You have done the exact same, posting links to articles that now you are saying are not accurate to link to?
Regardless, you have something personal against Steve and just want to take it out on him on a public forum.