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Hacking has nothing to do with site registration - you know this, don't you ??
This last claim even grew to add that they had another 750 million in gold reserves.
750 million in gold reserves were added to the Foundation (FPA) not to PNMS.PK - this was the claim.
You make it obvious again and again that reading and understanding even the easiest things are not so easy for everybody (lol)...
The initial buyout plan was slightly modified to the offer of transformation of shares to PDRs, with the well known guarantee prices (for 1-/2-year PDRs).
Therefore no, there was no lie of PNMS concerning a buyout.
It's quite sad that you "forgot" the PR history concerning this important matter.
We will all see in some months if the PDR guarantee price (for the 1-year-type) will be paid out as promised.
When / where did PNMS promise a buyout ?
...and the new PR of PNMS didn't have much to do with the PDR Exchange, isn't it ?
Why should they ?
They are Fairchild, not Panamersa (PNMS.PK).
The contracts & reports were / are for Krong's tailings near Moscow - that's a fact, meanwhile.
Everybody could be the representative for Krong, even a single person (like a lawyer for instance).
The big question (and maybe the problem) is:
what / how much of Krong belongs to Aurus ?
If nothing - then it wouldn't make any sense at all to show the documents on the Aurus website.
Puma was / is the representative for Krong - is this so difficult to understand ?
(Maximum) market capitalization is actually $1,8 mio (6.000.000.000 x 0.0003).
What a joke !
Hey, I want facts and not old, old posts.
Parkin was the Aurus CEO some time ago, but he isn't any more, as everybody knows.
They are neither CEO nor CFO and they actually don't own the majority of shares, afaik.
So why do the Canadians control the shell ?
was the .02 per share equivalent the one due this june or june of '09?
.02 for the 1-year (2008), .04 for 2-year (2009)
Did you forget about the Arkadia report ?
They did order (and pay) it probably too.
It's not my opinion.
I asked 2create if this is his opinion.
You got it now ?
I simply want to know the opinion of 2c, because his posts are sometimes rather too complicated written for me to understand them 100 %.
Yes, this is his version of the story which we know very well in the mean time.
But again, in a controversion it's much better to know also the second version (in this case: from PNMS) for being able to make fair statements about it.
Which other advices can he give him than:
1. to contact PNMS again and to try to solve the problem directly with them (in a rather constructive kind of solving approach),
2. to try it "the hard(er) way" with inclusion of his attorney ?
You and me, we both don't know exactly what happened concerning the "midas case".
I always prefer to hear the point of view of both sides before making my judgement - if this is not possible I make no judgement...
So actually...
50 % of Krong belongs to Red Tarnac (Salnikov),
50 % of Krong belongs to Puma,
0 % of Krong belongs to Aurus,
...is this your opinion ?
Please a short answer.
Yes / no / I'm not sure
is sufficiant.
I don't agree at all.
It would be very easy and even more very logical to tell the world that they never made a report for Aurus or for any unity connected to Aurus (and not only some statements in private mails or phone calls).
That this didn't happen until now (they knew about "the problem" latest since the interview with J. Helmer) can have the following reasons, imo:
1) They are just a "little bit" stupid.
2) The report is in connection (directly or indirectly) with Aurus.
3) They were paid from somebody (of Aurus) to shut up (for the scam to continue)...
I hope and think that 2) is correct.
Didn't Pedro just rebuff the notion through a poster here that there is no buyout and he is acting CEO?
We were recently told that there will be no r/s but there was no dementi from Pedro concerning a PNMS buyout, afaik.
I (only) agree with you if you can show me the source for your statement.
That's your interpretation (without proof).
The PDR prices are facts - but if / when they will be paid out (for the people willing to sell for these prices) is actually still a matter of speculation.
I personally even can't exclude that payments for PDR sales were already made because I never tried to sell any of my PDRs until today (but other PDR holders could have tried it in the last weeks / months).
You "forgot" that there exist two prices for PNMS...
and the actual one on the PDR Exchange is more than ok...
Look at this post ->
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=26886520
And dp is nobody who would try to help Aurus...
If Aurus should be shut down form the SEC (no more trading afterwards), you call this productive ??
For whom ??
Surely not for the share holders, lol...
But for the (naked) short seller, of course.
He cannnot give me the Russian report but he gives me the concentration numbers of Krong Site.
Can he really, are you sure ?
This is important, because it would prove (which was my impression from the start) that these ladys eik was talking with in Russia, have not much knowledge of anything.
For instance
AS:Yes, we are aware about this situation after one journalist from ABV Gold (??) called us...
but more important
...We have never had any relations with Krong or Aurus...
I admit that AURC looks quite "fishy" in the whole story about the "43-101" but TsNIGRI too in its own way, imo.
Take for instance (from eik's "interview"):
AS:Yes, we are aware about this situation after one journalist from ABV Gold called us.
Wtf is that ?
John Helmer is from Mineweb as we all know - there exists no journalist from ABV Gold.
So already in her first sentence she is mixing facts together the wrong way - so really a person you have to believe every word, lol...
We have never had any relations with Krong...
Who denies that PUMA is (at least) half-owner of Krong and the report (or the analysis) has therefore a lot to do with Krong ?
It seems that again, she couldn't get the easiest facts together...
And eik wrote:
I did mention “43-101” a few times and she never objected the term or asked "what is this"?
Hmmm, strange again, isn't it ?
Was it now a "simple analysis" or something similar to a "43-101" ?
But you agree that $90.000 would be too much for a simple analysis of some samples ?
Afair, the $90.000 was confirmed from TsNIGRI to an Ihub member (perhaps it was sunwz), in an answer mail to his inquiry.
If I have more free time then I will try to find the post (or perhaps somebody else can help me to find it).
One more thing that makes me wonder:
Aurus announces a "43-101" for Krong some months ago, even specially sells shares to pay the report, then a report for exactly this location comes out (confirmed by TsNIGRI).
Wouldn't it be a quite strange coincidence that the "second half of Krong" (whoever really stands behind PUMA) orders a report for this location and this all has nothing to do with Aurus ?
If TsNIGRI really did only some sample analysis (and therefore did also not have much to write in a report), then don't you think that $90.000 is a quite high price for this kind of work ?
Afaik, the sum of $90,000 for their work is already confirmed from TsNIGRI.
If you take a look at their "normal" sample analysis prices, hmmmm...
http://www.xrf.ru/price-tsnigri.doc
Although I'm a little bit invested in Aurus, I try my best to find the truth (and not only the truth which I want to find).
But one has to be sceptical in both directions - this is my conviction - until informations & explanations are found which really make sense (without any reasonable doubt).
...They may just performed analysis of the samples...
This would mean that the meanwhile well known english version of the report was a nearly 100 % forgery - not only concerning the stamps but also - much more important - parts of its content.
It would be so much easier if TsNIGRI would care that companies like ABV or AURC are "working" (or "worked") with their "report".
With one, two official statements they could clarify the most:
for whom did they make the report,
who did pay them,
which kind of report (or analysis) did they perform,
for which place (Krong, part of Krong, other...) and where is it exactly located.
This was not exactly my point.
Because in the report on the Aurus website was at least written that the samples were - partially - taken form TsNIGRI itself.
Nothing else makes any sense for a serious geological report (imo), because otherwise the possibilities for manipulation & fraud (theoretically you could bring to TsNIGRI whatever you want te get a "nice" report afterwards) are just too huge...
Although eik did a good job today by calling them - the whole story is now even more mysterious and strange, at least in my eyes.
GLTY too
Is this is all true, not only Aurus but also TsNIGRI is nothing better than a joke, imo.
Take as example
GS: We have performed just technical analysis of samples delivered by the client. We don’t know how typical these samples are, how it’s spread around the place, etc.
or
GS: Listen, we had samples supplied by the client with official forms filled in. We didn’t have any reason to doubt their data.
And this should be a report that anybody takes for serious ??
Are these the methods with which they are doing their normal job ??
At least this has by far nothing to do with standards similar to 43-101...
I told her that this is rather a private statements and suggested to post something on their company’s website. They never thought about this, but she sounded like it may be a good idea.
Lol - that's a real goodie.
How stupid can man / woman be...
Has your statement anything to do with my statement ??
There's no relation at all !!
Read, understand and then answer !!
That there was technically absolutely zero selling pressure (concerning PNMS) in the last two days...
Every medal has two faces...
...not a single cent sold from the bid today (as yesterday), lol.
Hmmm...
Of course it is...what...nonsense ??
Come on. no one trusts this company.
That's nonsense.
And you know it.
I wrote it's one (possible) reason, not the main or the only reason.
But I think the feedback from their share holders is important for every company.
And from here, they got very negative feedback most of the time.
Although some of these negative posters aren't even share holders of PNMS.
But believe me - what is going on here (concerning negativity) is really a nightmare for everybody who (still) trusts the company.
Many people have saved a fortune by listening to the warnings posted on this board.
This is no fact, as long as PNMS is still trading and / or there's a chance for a good offer to have (for PNMS) the possiblity to retire from the US market.
What will happen with the PNMS PDR holder - we will see - I'm still quite confident in any way.
But it would be surely a great pleasure for me to not have to read your postings here any more as soon as PNMS would retire from pinky land...
Aurus ordered the report(s) first of all for companies with buyout interest, afaik.
So it wouldn't be a surprise for me that every company which contacted Aurus with this (possible) intention has already got the report of TsNIGRI weeks before it was posted on the Aurus website.
I knew that something was missing concerning my AURUS investment...
...now I remember, it was the Super Heroes & their comments full of wisdom and perfect DD (lol).
@ sunwz
You promised on the AURC board to send your answer email from TsNIGRI to the AURC investors interested to read it.
Are you a honest man or are you not ??