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That sounds very good, Bob. I believe that you believe what you are saying. Now the question is: do you also "know" what you are saying? Do you know something regular shareholders don't, or do you just really believe in this?
Indeed, but someone would need to be interrested to buy those shares. How do you see samai going to investors? "hey, I have this stock, it has a 29 billion os, there is no bid, would you perhaps like to buy some shares at 0.0001, please?"
They can't dump anything because there are no buyers.
That is my fear. A couple of things point in that direction indeed. ( he telling you about the new 504, he putting out Happy Encounters PRs and expecting us to be happy, he forwarding you a mail about a mandatory buyback )
Lets say my hope is that he knows he screwing up and my fear is that he is really screwing up and does not have a clue.
I never though I would say this, but: "Sandy! Please come back!"
we will still have to see whether they will use the regdex or not. At this point, they can't and they now it.
So they have 2 options:
1) r/s
2) make it run.
To make a 29 billion os thing run, you need some power PRs. They know that too. Apparently, until now, they choose to ignore significant events for TFN (UK and funding), which could have moved this thing a little if they would have PRd it. They know that, they choose to ignore it. My best guess would be because something better is in the pipeline.
In the end, they will dilute again. However, it wouldn't be smart to start doing that at 0.0001. It would kill any kind on run immediately and they would be stuck.
no volume, no dilution, it is as simple as that.
Dilution requires buyers and we don't have a bid.
Will they dilute in a run? ... hard to tell
Will they dilute after a r/s ... probably.
I would have to read all of that again, but what I deduce from this is that Samai has no clue. There is no game-plan. He doesn't know what to do with the 29 billion os. He was planning to R/S and dump more and now may be considering the buyback because some shareholder suggested it.
Yet, Samai ignores TFN events and refuses to make the TFN connection clear.
All that scares me...
Did anyone notice that the address is now in Toronto?
So is BKMP now a canadian company?
That would be good news right...
even nicer would be to have that bid sitting at 0.0006!!
Damn... i'm feeling it too... excitement in the air.
Indeed, BKMP will still hold a share in TFN, only it won't be 15.4% anymore. New shares of TFNG have been created and everyone share of the pie just got a little bit smaller.
We new this would happen and it does not have to be a bad thing.
We have again new proof that TFN is growing. And fast. So we should be ok with our investment here.
But I sure would like to hear something from our crappy thai CEO. If he does not grab this opportunity....
Not grown much? The last number we had was less than 500.000, and that number is only 6 months old or so.... now we have 1 million. So it more than doubled in less than a year.
Well, do the math ... 1 million payers in canada !!
And the freebies make it interresting for advertisers.
the earnings are so outstanding that
- they do not PR them anymore?
- they don't file them anymore?
- they post them in a blog so that they can erase any day?
Don't get me wrong here: I also think this will move and I would also keep my money out of it until it moves. That is the best strategy you can have. If the run does not happen, your money will still be there..
However: if you 'know' this will run and you 'know' that once the news is released, you will not be able to buy at 0.0001 anymore, then you should buy all you can now. And Mr Web claims to have that knowledge.... but doesn't buy... so?
I get that point. Yet it is not valid. If someone 'knows' this will go to 0.002 or whatever, that person will put all his money in this play. That person does not own any other shares. It is a very natural reaction: it is called greed.
I don't fully get your point, but that is ok I guess.
If Webby believed what he was posting, he would be buying, it's as simple as that.... but he isn't.
Meanwhile, I hold a position in BKMP and I have faith that if TFN does well (USA deal), we will see some profits here. So if you don't mind, I'll be posting now and then...
Hunter6110, fully agree! (cannot pm)
that's great news! How about you buying a 100 million tomorrow to prove you believe your own pump?
They might not give any piece of real information, that is ok for me. They claim to have it, which is still ok for me. Yet, non of them is buying any... which makes me very suspicious....
don't know, but I'm ready.
This board is filled with opinions. If people stumble upon them and decide to buy this, they should only blame themselves.
what will happen is: TFN will get a USA deal in the end. I know that we are waiting for this to happen for 2 years. But things have happened in those 2 years. We are in the UK (recently) and TFN has deal with yahoo and fox sports. So we are slowly getting into the USA.
Remember that the first canadian carriers were also some obscure IPTV carriers. In 2 years, the are all over the place in canada. In the next 2 years, they will be all over the US.
This is the only thing that matters. In between, a lot of crap will happen, I guess. As long as they don't dilute this any further, we should be ok.
you regained your faith? Good!
Where are we going?
It could be that mainly insiders converted, but we don't know that. It could be that only outsiders converted and that they are all screwed.
At the time, it looked as an attractive offer: 14 billion O/S, 20% of TFN, buyback program, deal with CD holders and PPS trading at 0.0004 - 0.0005. So it could be regular people went for the 0.00015 offer.
fully agree
you don't feel divorced enough yet? A new CEO, ignoring TFN, giving us this HE crap, not stating the ownership, ignoring the UK launch,....
This thing can move on carriers, with 15.4% and 29B O/S, but they need to focus on TFN. PR every move of TFN. Make noise about carriers and growth... and forget about the HE(TM) crap.
do we still care about TFN? I though it was all about the happy encounters?
man, she's still doing it? I have proof she was doing it last year around june. What price is she asking now for a PDR? Back in those days it was 0.0025, which reflected the PK PPS. So I guess you can get them now for 0.0002?
Is the discussion here that was or was not trying to sell PDR's directly to people? or whether this activity is legal or not?
If people are doubting she was doing it: SHE WAS!
there are plenty of boards like that. Of course they are also used for pumping stocks or to bring your stock under the attention. And I would advice you to not just jump in because you saw it on some board. Even if they are screaming.
nice! Any idea what other PRs they used to do this... so we know what's coming.
Would you like to share your view on fridays PR?
Indeed. lets stick to the facts. have you received your money yet?
Yes, it will be rough. However, BKMP has shown very strong support at 0.0001. I don't think that it will fall through this time.
I don't think anybody paid any attention to the PR. The company that did the evaluation doesn't even exist. Enough said.
It is interesting, BUT: they could have bought already. There are billions for sale at 0.0001. If they would have reversed this without any PR, they would have got them even cheaper.
Thanks.
I agree that they will not reverse this before they had some kind of run, but after that they will.
So I expected a pump. Mr Webprods and all are part of that pump. Now I'm wondering if BKMP management expected something from the last PRs. Is this their pump already? Did they expect us to fall for the happy encounters? (TM!). And the last one was obviously too ridiculous. A non-existant company values us at 0.0008 without any arguments. Without any mentioning of OS and revenues of the things we own.
I can not decide whether they are screwing up or they want to make it look as if they are screwing up. (maybe me thinking they want to make it look as if ... is just wishfull thinking)
Sandy wanting shares cheap: could be. On the other hand: he can get them now, or he could have gotten them already.
Good luck!
so what's your opinion on yesterdays PR?
what's the problem with this f'n samai dude? Does he want to piss us of? Should we be laughing?