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also, please dont cherry pick what I said. Read and quote the whole story.
If you don't have any confidence in what is going on with the stock, why do you still own it? At this point I am prepared to ride it all the way down. How about you?
either that or a double alias poster who got busted.
Cueball,
been around since then with you. I have looked fro any other Aton news as well, but nothing so far. still looking, difficult being russian firm...
agree. his posts were only ones to come true so far...
I was never sure I believed the broken English part, but didn't care as long as he was correct...
someone must have complained.
terminated by iHub, moderators, or himself?
ok. thought maybe the moderators had access to more info about posters. probably not though.
speculation at least gives us hope. which is why we are at .003 instead of .03 or .30 (and yes, I remember those days I'm sorry to say)
BRRTKS
lol. there would be better ways for Sam to pump and dump that go thru Love... And seems like he would have done it years earlier too...
is there any way to find out where avitrenko is emailing from?
figured as much. just another reason why Sam keeps things as quiet as possible... don't piss off the giant....
figured as much. just another reason why Sam keeps things as quiet as possible... don't piss off the giant....
if Sam is sitting around worried about what analysts in russia are saying and what their targets are, we have bigger problems.
hopefully he is working on the next several deals. hopefully he is working on a press release with a breakdown of SPRL's participation in working JVs!
I understand your frustration about how things have been handled in the past with press releases and updates in general.
But,
What company issues a press release that any firm has initiated coverage with a price target? None that are not total scumbags. The news about coverage comes from the issuing company, not the company being covered.
I have not seen in print any Sam excuses. All excuses have come from board members, not the company. In past years, there have been no updates because there was nothing to update. The plan kept changing directions as necessitated by the then current market conditions and/or problems with how the deals were to have worked out. I assume that since nothing has been reported, there is nothing concrete/signed/done to report. Or there are other deals that may be jeopardized by flying out with all kinds of JCMP type hype.
With regards to dilution, in the long run, playing by the rules works for companies that do, even if dilution hurts in the short term. Look at all the bs companies that issue phony press releases then dilute the crap out of their stock. Always catches up with them!!!
Volume is how you rid weak holders and bring in new shareholders, allowing the share price to then rise...
Problems, sure there are. Nothing to report in couple years? How about financials? We go nowhere long term without reporting audited financials!!!
I agree with the hiring of a real IR firm. Dont really care how they had to pay for it, whether it was cash, stock, or a combination. Dont think we have seen anything official outlining the details, but the key is the hiring of the IR firm.
Not sure why SPRL would hire any IR firm unless ther was something on the horizon to report on.... So, hopefully that is a good sign of good things to come. From some of his past releases, its obvious that Sam is no IR genius.
Decent volume today with no price movement.... still plenty of shares available under .003 it would seem...
I have emails in to Aton. Will post anything they answer back with...
was thinking same thing, he hit that one right...
.11 would be ok with me
Like a thief in the night, I will show absolutely zero mercy to naked short positions...
At least he does identify himself as a thief!
dont think you can even compary the two. smxt was simply a shell company with much lower o/s entering into a merger.
Im not saying that sprl cont make a big move, but I think that big move would be back to the penny to 5 cents area.
the selling pressure along the way would be incredible. there are probably 200 million+ shares that would bail along the way. that is a huge dollar amount of new investment dollars going into this company.
I have been in this stock since well before the old private board, when the stock traded at over .20 I have seen and heard it all.
But the news needed to get us back to those levels is almost unthinkable for now.
I target of 5 cents would be more in line with my highest expectations at this point.
all that is fine and dandy. but, until there is real news, its a pingpong game. would not doubt if we touched lows again. there was no apparent reason for the brief rally as far as I can see.
news, news, news. we need it, not the rumor...
worthless post wabbit. have you ever tried to call the company? do you own shares? do you post anything other than bashing? you obviously have no clue about investing and pink sheet stocks in particular.
when you sign up for your senior year at tommy high next week, see if there is a business or econ class you can take instead of home ec.
you and me both brother....
dont think there will be a fast runup even with news. this run is probably hype, and thus temporary.
with news, the stock can run, but there will be profit takers the whole way up.
since I need to see something around .04-.05 area, think it will be awhile for those of us who have been in the stock for years.
flippers will be flippers...
I doubt dilution is yet over. The dilution is used to move forward and make JVs happen. Dilution in the long run may not nesessarily be a bad thing. I have said this many times before on this site. There are no other means to fund the company at this point that thru share dilution. this happens to most every pink sheet start up. And this company is still in its infancy. You guys need to sit back and wait patiently.
Dilution is a sign that things are happening. It is not always negative... Now if SPRL were to issue up to their limits of shares, then increase the OS thru a split, we would then be in trouble. But there have been no signs of anything like that.
ultimately yes, initially no.
or even a pr saying that they had xxx in revenues coming into SPRL, not the JV, but into the top part of the SPRL balance sheet. dont see how this could be a conflict in any way with ongoing operations. everyone BUT the company has said that there are revenues coming in. they size is unimportant at this point...
the shorting I am speaking of with marketmakers is to fill a buy order. they are allowed to do that. that is not the traditional short selling done by the public.
and also, the market makers for penny stocks often have millions of shares that they have taken risk on. and they are allowed to sell short to fill orders. the land of pink sheets is nowhere near as organized and fluid as you might thinat is why you will not necessarily get filled when you put in at the buy or sell side...
thanks for the update. your time would be better spent on another stock.
certainly strat is bringing in revenues at this point, as stated in the release you refer to.
however you have to remember that those revenues are part of a JV and we do not have any info on the JV breakdown. there is a russian partner, and the strat side of the JV is a partnership in itself. outside investors were asked to participate in the strat part of the JV investment, so they will get a return as well. many on this board and the old private board were invited to participate. i passed, most others did also i think.
the fact that there is continuous dilution would tell me that there is not much rolling off to strat in the way of revenues at this point. BUT, it is a start. we have to start somewhere.
there are revenues. there are other ventures being worked on. until they come to fruition and there are press releases with real updates, the share price will drift lower. simple math and common sense. more shares + no news = lower share price for now....
as for reporting financials, think that is a forgotten entity at this point. not important to sam, which means they would not have helped the share price in my mind.
this is a pink sheet, sub-penny stock. anyone who thot this gig was a layup was on the pipe. all the hype about news any day was just that, hype. anyone who believed it without calling the company is on the pipe as well.
i have spoken with the company. my mind is made. im not selling. but i'm not going to be alltogether surprised if the company disappears as well. those are the risks.
Agree Lazy. Why would someone waste so much time and energy bashing a stock they own...
If there was any news that Sam could report, I think he would have. The cost to SPRL with the dilution would be counter intuitive to any business man. I do not believe he is sitting on a pile of news to release at once. Unless he has another 300-400 shares to issue at that time into the runnup he might expect.....
Col, good to see your name anyway. just returned from my cottage outside of ottawa. great time of year always.
brrtks
most of the regulars have been absent here lately. I hope it means they are on holiday, busy with work, waiting with nothing to add. Hope they have not been the sellers...
weeks? try months and years!!!
there is obviously nothing going on right now to report. hopefully we will have something at a future date, but until then, the outstanding shares will increase and the price will drop.
hopefully the new share issuance is for business purposes rather than basic expenses.
Velvet,
Do you have any insight over and above what I posted about the additional shares?
BRRTKS
zero?
Unfortunately Sam will dilute the stock as much as necessary to keep things moving forward and the company afloat.
Releasing any update at all would surely help slow the continual decline of the share price.
My guess is that his hands are completely tied and he cannot say anything at all. Hopefully he is using the new monies to sign new deals and move forward.
But the new share count is certainly discouraging. My guess is that there will be another round of selloffs now. Price will go lower til we hear anyting from Sam. No reason not to drift lower....
I don't think there is any news yet to report. I think it takes alot of time and patience to do real business in Russia. I don't think Sam is sitting on any information on any deals that have been completed. I just think it takes a long time to tie up all the ends that must come with any business venture in Russia.
As for JCMP releases, I don't think they hold much water either. Losing a deal with them would not hurt me in the least.
Have to sit and wait and hope. One day, Sam will give us some info or the company will just vanish... I don't think he cares much about the share price, mainly because I don't think there is anything he can do about it currently.
Pennieland to a T! Relax or Bail! But saying news is coming any day is just a wish. That story has been printed for 2 years running on this pup.
Long and holding, but not very proud...
BRRTKS