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It appears Wall Street has declared war with the Penny and BB (OTC) stocks this morning. They claim they don't want the little guys profiting from OTC companies like OBCN.
I think we saw something on this last week with the SEC revisions for how the OTC's penny and bb stocks have to report.
(To be fully reporting will cost these start-ups too much, and they will fold, the SEC knows this. That is why penny and bb stocks have some latitude in reporting on time).
Some individuals complain about reporting not being on time, but all that shows is they don't know the rules or they work for Wall Street and are trying to disrupt the penny and bb (OTC) elastic rules to help then succeed.
(IMO), If this is true, then companies like the IHUB won't be needed. Hardly anybody posts here for NASDAQ or NYSE (blue chip) stocks. I know, I check on them.
It was also reported that the big market and big money companies and the SEC only wants the money to flow to them, not the OTC cutting out the little guys, and an opportunity to move up in wealth.
Everything here is in my opinion only. Not trying to disrupt anything, just trying to pass on some opinion news.
Keep your heads up....
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Me as well!
My investment mentality for my OBCN positions are: TO THE MOON OR BUST!
This is how I always play my stock positions.
(If you sell, stay out, so one does not get wiped sawed. Unless you are playing the dips and selling on the highs). Again if your out, look for another stock to invest in.
I put my all of my shares up high so my MM's could not reach them (other than short term) with regards to swapping (selling what they really don't have). Who knows, maybe they will get caught short with OBCN. (One can only hope).
I'm with you brother!
Good luck : )
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
(IMO), Sounds like the MM's are breaking up the the direct orders and filling them piece meal so it does not attract sharks.
My theory is that if the volume size and price remains low, it can be taken as discouraging action, to induce other weak holders to sell out.
I don't know this but, the float could be about locked up.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-CAM??
Ouch...
That 50k trade @ $.13 cost (lost) somebody around $1500.00 plus commissions compared to the 100 share at $0.16 up tick. (It may cost whoever even more)
The price variance(s) are too small to make any money so far today.
Whoever bought, got some at a reduced price.
(IMO), I am patient and am waiting patiently.
But, you have do what you have to do!
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Looks like someone is leaving the nest.
Interesting.......
Good luck to whomever, and hope you do better in your next investment / flip.
I'm still holding for $$$.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Thanks CLSI.
I forgot to welcome PREYA to the OBCN IHUB board!
Welcome Preya!
Please pass it on to her if you can. I'm sure some of the other members would agree, she will be a benefit to most of us.
Thanks again!
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOK
GO-SAM?
GO-PREYA
Yes. This is her. I checked it out and CLSI confirmed it.
Yes, she was posting on FTRS and OBCN last year as a noncompany or IHUB registered member like us.
I'm glad CLSI got her the jobs and the fact is, maybe she can communicate to us more frequently about the companies, or through any means to get the word(s) out to the shareholders!
CLSI stated she had quite the followings. (I can see why ; )
Lets give her a chance and see where it goes. She was/is doing a good job for FTRS. I don't have a twitter account but am able to stay up with their PR's on the IHUB FTRS board.
I'm willing to accept anything at this point as far as communication efforts.
Now that I know she is in the communication seat(s), I'm down with that! In fact, I believe (unbeknownst to me) sometime around November I noticed her PR's over on the FTRS IHUB board, about company status and thought it was really nice about the season greetings to FTRS shareholders. I complained here on the OBCN IHUB that we needed someone like that!
Imagine that!
It's all good here. Lets give her a chance like CLSI did and see where this goes : )
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
GO-DR. PREYA
Great job CLSI!
Helping your fellow individual is always the right thing to do in my book.
Dr. Preya is a class act in my book and a nice fit for the Doki family of companies.
No conflicts at all here.
I'm sure she will do a great job for us fellow shareholders!
You are a great person, CLSI!
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
GO-CLSI
Interesting CLSI. Dr. P is Preya Co, as well as the Female Indian I indicated. My intuition was correct. I'm sure she could be Hindu.
I wonder who is her father?
She posted here last year I remember.
Anyway, don't be a stranger here on the IHUB Dr P.
So welcome back, Dr. P.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
What difference does it make to you. You said you sold out years ago!
Your just here to start BS.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Anybody know Who is the Preya Co.?
I checked and only came up with some healthcare solutions business.
It does sound like a female Indian name though.
(I wonder if they / she works for FTRS in the PR department).
Maybe OBCN owns this one as well.
An introduction for the Preya Company could have been "Breaking News" as well : )
Additionally, we did get some movement on the OTC as well. They removed all the previously posted PR's.
On the glass half full side; movement has been made to make room for all those acquisition(s), mergers, marketing agreements and maybe some more partnerships.
I don't know anything, but I would not count OBCN out for anything!
Just my opinion(s),
According to the OBOCON website, lots of things are / should be happing soon on that end of the Middle East "Global Direct" front?
It seems all of those ventures could payoff in a big way.
(I wonder if FTRS & OBCN could merge down the road)?
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
That's good : )
Maybe they knew this was not headed to the BB or Pink Sheets?
It is very encouraging to me.
Good Luck To You Sam : )
GO-COAL
GO-CO2
GO-OIL
GO-NATURAL GAS
GO-WOOD
One last thing.
From all of my experiences and opinions, I believe most accumulation happens when the volumes are small, and buying and selling is even slower.
But I also believe a shake out can accomplish the same thing by running up the volume and per share price and falling off again.
Volumes can get traders emotional. Low or no volumes can get some emotional, and they sell out because they may feel the stock price won't rise. If the stock price and volumes show up, they could get caught up in the emotion of unexpected selling. (Notes have to be taken to determine the differences).
Distributions and shake outs I've noticed, usually have medium to high daily volumes.
I don't normally follow the volume game unless it is low and slow.
Good luck!
GO-FTRS
Here's Johnny......
Has anybody seen Linda lately???????????
OHHHHH LINDA....
GO-FTRS
It must be like the past trend here in the US with all the beards and mustaches. May be they are trying to blend in?????
GO-FTRS
All good here ; )
GO-FTRS
(IMO), If an answer can be made, I believe it could have several parts. This is some of my understandings about what I know, and how I play the penny market just for myself.
(1). I don't know any of them at all. Some us have dug deep into anything we can find to try to put this thing together to try to form some solid opinions.
(2). So far, you can read our past post(s) and DD, and you should know what we feel we know.
(3). Any life from the old MISM and CLSI (not related-sister company), gives me hope and some enlightenment for the new company, FTRS and OBCN (not related sister company).
(4). I take the above information and try to combine it to what I believe I know about penny stock trading, my business education and experiences.
(5). From my experiences, penny stocks normally work (formed) opposite of how NASDAQ and NYSE traded stocks are formed, even though some penny stocks eventually make it to those exchanges by beating the challenges a penny has to go through. (Penny's can be compared to a small fish where some do go on to be trophy wall hangers, and most others just get eaten).
(6). A penny has to stay out of sight in order to get moved up to the big boards. Sometimes before doing so a lot of shares have to be used, or ready to be used as a defense. There are a lot of companies just waiting to knock it down or buy up all its stock to take it over or retire the competitors. Survival of the fittest. (The Darwin Theory). Others are just cons, pump and dumps.
(7). A small fish is easy to swallow, but a whale won't even be considered. I use that same mentality to with accumulating shares. A small penny company uses it's shares to purchase things and companies. Sometimes a lot of shares are needed to get those companies that HATTER is talking about into a position to be moved up into the big boards. (One can only hope, but it does happen).
(8). Sometimes all those shares need to be issued to keep even bigger fish away. (It's called protection). And those shares maybe RS reverse split at or before the big fish is ready for the big board. In most cases, shares should be minimized and the stocks per share value increase to and maintained to protect it form the next group of larger fish called, the Blue Chips!
(9). I have no real way of telling how this all pans out, but if you don't play, you can't win. This is really a Casino. Each company owner(s) and managers develop and adjust accordingly to get there.
(10). The best way to try to learn a winning strategy that works for you, is to paper trade, active trade and take notes of what is happening and learn how to interpret stock trends or cycles. It is harder to do here in pinky land. But you can win sometimes. (The key is to minimize your over all losses and increase your long term gains).
Wish you luck.
Naturally everything here are my opinions only.
GO-FTRS
(IMO), A revised outlook could be a $5.50 to $5.75 day today : )
It also looks like BTU is headed back to the Big Board.
I don't know anything, just my opinions.
GO-BTU
GO-OIL
GO-COAL
GO-NATURAL GAS
GO-CO2
GO-WOOD
JUST-GO!
Looks like it might be a high of $4.75 - $5.00 day today ; )
GO-COAL
GO-OIL
GO-CO2
GO-WOOD
GO-NATURAL GAS
Just GO!
Hatter, allow me....
Interesting perspective here.
"Within five days, or the new "Proposed" SEC changes".
My in English comprehension class, I was taught that a term like "New Proposed" is used passively, and only suggests "something may or may not take place".
How were you able to jump right into a "Positive" or concrete change that "May or May Not Happen" and within five days!. How did you get there?
I've got to hear this one......
Lets have it.....
GO-FTRS
Hey Sam. Keep your head up!
Never give up on America!!
Just because Joe China is around, is not a solid reason to give up on the US and the rest of us Americans. Or even weaken our faith as the best God has put forth in mankind. (Please never forget that. We as a hole are great people and do great things! : )
Just to let you in on some overlooked observations.
As you already know, I reside here in the mid west some of the time. The mid west and other states had and have coal furnaces. During a past administration, that administration introduce a "war on coal". That was their political campaign message.
During that time that administration declared a moratorium on building "new coal furnaces" and if you can believe this, "Grandfathered In" a unnumbered amount of old working coal furnaces, and an unspecified number of old nonworking coal furnaces sites around the country!!!
What that meant (IMO), was the administration then and now, made a loud noise to appease it's few followers and reserved the "Future New Clean Coal Technologies" for now, and the future in the event they "could be wrong about the alternatives". (Imagine That)!
To me, all this means is that, administration knew that America and any other country, cannot run without fossil fuels as its primary source for energy conduction and consumption! (Hence: a sucker is borne every minute) if you know what I mean.
It's as simple as that!
Additionally, remember, China and most other countries around the world, do not have any, or very little coal, as well as, other natural reserves that can sustain for energy productions.
Fossil fuels were the main reasons why Japan, Germany and other countries had World Wars. It was to gain these fuels for world conquest and dominance. Same things going on today. The game is being played a different way, but it's the same game for world dominance.
Again, China, India and other nations have "NO" carbon caps. In fact, I believe China is building over (1) coal power generator per month. Some other countries are doing the same. I believe shipments of American coal are quietly being shipped to China on the cheap.
So lets start having a positive out look on America. We are the greatest nation on earth. (Keep your head up Sam : )
Things are not always what they seem!
All in my opinion naturally.
GO-COAL
GO-NATURAL GAS
GO=CO2
GO-OIL
GO-WOOD
GO-BTU
Please refer back to post #20308.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
What are your points here?
Lets see...
Pissed off
Problems with authority figures
Stock Broker career did not amount to much
Your opinion(s) have to be paramount over others
Your opinions are not being heard
Things don't happen according to your timetables
Our personal DD efforts are of no use to you
Investment strategy is not working out well
Your investments are going down the tubes daily
Would you like to add anything else?
Interesting perspectives on your thoughts, thought execution(s) and result rationalities.
I'm not qualified to help you.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
That SEC article to me, identifies a clear reason why my style of investing works for me.
I've said this many times. I am a long term investor. I am in the investment for capital gains. My strategy includes the assistance of long range chart(s).
Their product(s) or service(s) mean very little to me.
Making money ($$$) is the plan
The most important factor(s) in my method to long term chart investing are the chart(s) life cycles.
I don't have to worry about the SEC changing the "rules", or noncompliance(s). I sleep well at night.
I do however like communication from the company from time to time so I can make notes and compare the notes to the chart movements.
DD does make it interesting, but like I said, the communication from the long term chart(s) is the most important communication(s).
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Hey Owl, (don't let it be said that "I" did not find common ground with you), but here is some of what some of us do here.
It is called DD, and this might help you sleep better at night once employed.
Interesting article. For me, this should help with the company communications efforts.
I found this on our sister website.
It may mean different things to different individuals.
https://www.tradersmagazine.com/departments/regulation/exploring-the-investor-impact-of-an-sec-rule-proposal/
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Look out CLSI, it will be coming.......
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Thanks Chick ; )
All in good jests!
Nothing else : )
"IN MY OPINION ONLY"
All is (god)-good here.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Don't even try to play with my words bird. Sell now, today at these prices! I will pick them up!
I don't play by your rules, buy high sell low or hold and complain. I'm in it for the capital gains and long term play.
As far as leftist, I only quoted you after your "turd burger" post last week or so. You quoted that hag first. I thought I was just speaking your language. right? (I thought it would help you understand a little better).
And yes, I feel very, very confident about this stock. Also, I don't take your opinions as contrary. I take them as you are a bad poker player, and won't own up to your actions.
IT's always some other persons fault. You make that very clear time after time.
Contrary opinions, really..... Give me a break.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
I've read the posts about that as well. I guess I would only think in that reality if I felt the "sky was falling" for some personal reason(s).
I think I would really, really have to be afraid of something bad happening
such as, losing my Large investment, or if somebody or something were following me??
Not sure what is going on there but, it does not seem right.
I did hear that a large trading house could have been doing something like that. Not sure what's going on there. But I did hear it.
I don't live on that side of the tracks if you know what I mean.
Not sure what is going on there.
GO-FTRS
I think it's because nobody responds to it's, repeatedly stupid posts.
(IMO),
This individual sounds like it could have been involved in something, and is now trying to build a (fake defense through posting?) for something it feels may be coming it's way?
You know, like "Johnny did it, not me. Johnny is the bad guy not me. Go get Johnny, not me" type.
I don't know but, if it looks stupid, sounds stupid and acts stupid, it could be stupid and maybe trouble abounds...
Sounds stick and stinky.
GO-FTRS
If you feel confident in these two stocks, how the hell did you get in here?
If you feel that way about this stock, put it up for sale and I will take it off your hands. If you don't, then you are just talking horse sh*t.
If you won't sell it to me at a loss now, then you "must believe" you don't have a loser, and you really believe you have the possibility to make some profits like the rest of us here!
Sh*t or get off the pot. (Quit your f*ck'n crying and man-up).
There, I just judged you at your request. You situation can only be one way or the other!
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Hatter, from my experience(s), a defensive position is usually a losing position.
(IMO) only,
Also, from what I've read (I have not read everything) but, it was claimed that both parties; Maslow and Doki's, were to be removed from the court process and remanded to contractional Arbitration between the two parties for resolution.
I believe that is where they are at now. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Talk is cheap. If this individual is claiming he/she assisted in fraud, shouldn't the SEC and the Fed be notified about the individuals so they can get involved?
Is this individual(s) admitting, reporting and maybe even confessing to some type of wrong doing here?
Getting sticky and stinky!
Interesting....
I think I will keep my distance if you know what I mean.
GO-FTRS
Has anyone ever heard of someone touting how much of a loser they have been and continue to be???
This takes the cake.....
We've all got it now, you are a total loser ; )
There can be no pump or dump with out a significant amount of volume. I believe most of the stock is locked, so take your "turd burger" and go bother your mom.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
Could be that was the case.
Some of these "larger" company buybacks stay under the radar. Individuals like Warren Buffett buyback all the time. His disclosures of what he repurchased remains quiet and is then reported sometime later.
A reporting may take a quarter or longer, or even longer! His claim (defense) for this is that it is part of his business strategy and remains confidential until he deems it necessary to report it. (He does identify before hand that the buy back will be taking place though).
I my opinion, that is understandable because if the public and competitors see how his repurchase plan is rolled out, he can move the "market" at the wrong time and spoil his chances to achieve his objectives. It appears the SEC is on board with this plan. (I've read this many times, and he even talks about it at his shareholders meetings).
It could be possible BTU and other large corporations could be using this method as well.
I guess, the best way to understand their motives and methods, is to record the movements and take notes. (But BTU and others seem to be very open in their processes).
Per share dollar amounts at this point are only useful to me as charting data in a long term chart. Once one gets into the numbers of shares out there (volumes), and how they are distributed are really no use to me in the short term. I do watch them some times, but very little.
(When the volumes are high, I look to see how the public reacts. The public usually reacts in an emotional manner. So I look to see what the noise is and how it moved the masses, and take some notes. That's all).
All (IMO) of course.
GO-BTU
GO-COAL
GO-NATURAL GAS
GO-OIL
GO-CO2
GO-WOOD
GO
Good question Sam.
My understanding of corporate finance is that when a company issues shares in their company, they should be executed and recorded by an officer and the secretary of the company. The secretary has to keep a log of numbered stock certificate(s) of whom purchased shares and how many were purchased for each transaction(s).
After they produce the certificates of how many shares were issued to said individual(s) / corporation(s), they also have to keep traceability of those certificates numbers and number of shares when produced for sale. The repurchased certificates have to be cancelled and recorded. All for auditing transparency.
Today most shares are digital, but one can still request from the company a physical certificate. Usually for a fee. The digital certificates still have to be audited!
I am also under the impression that when a company "stock repurchase" takes place, the company has to cancel those shares sold. So the float and total shares will be reduced by taking them off the books. The company cannot reissue the same numbered stock certificate to another transaction. A company cannot keep two sets of books!
Naturally, all is in my opinions only.
GO-BTU
GO-COAL
GO-NATURAL GAS
GO-OIL
GO-WOOD
Hey Sam.
(IMO's),
Buying a lot of stock back -- "Wouldn't the price price go up"?
(Yes, and No.) Volumes do not necessarily move a stock up or down. It is usually a MM who moves a price. (Only they know why and where a stocks price movements will go).
"I never saw a reverse stock split that worked out well".
(Yes and No). Companies like Citigroup, AIG, E-Trade, Motorola to name a few, were very successful in doing it! (It is claimed the firm size and some other factors were very important factors for doing so).
They all claim "Visibility" was the main purpose. They also claimed the attraction of successful "Wealthy Individuals" who invest only in "Blue Chip Stocks" are their market target. (They appear to want investors to be long term shareholders).
Additionally, some companies that performed a reverse split, never made it. A firm called "Xerox" never made it. So that backs up your claim "I never saw a reverse split that worked out well".
Some claim the reverse split (RS) method only works with penny stock plays. And I am sure when it's used in penny land, it can work much better. Hence: Companies are able to get liquidity through selling large volumes of shares to investors in turn growing their companies, and then they RS their large share volume(s) to gain "Visibility" at higher per share price(s), with the hope of moving their companies up to the NASDAQ or NYSE.
The fact is more stock investors or flippers can only afford so much to play the markets and are willing to gamble for the higher risk and reward approach.
Naturally, I make no claims as to buy, hold or sell a stock. My style or angle to investing (playing) the market(s) is outside the main stream. I "use a Contrarian approach". I think all markets and stocks are guided. I don't know who or what it could be (and don't care), but the (patterns) of cycles that stocks and the general markets go through leave me suspect. So I take an opposing view of what is touted. I watch the actions of long term charts for most of my information. (Talk is cheap).
Hope I was able to enlighten or lend what some call wisdom : )
Remember, they say advise is only worth what one would pay for it, so I'm told.
"Things are not always what they seem" ; )
GO-COAL
GO-OIL
GO-NATURAL GAS
GO-WOOD
GO-CO2
Not sure what that person is claiming?
Bankruptcy again????
There never was a need for another bankruptcy, because (IMO), they never had one to begin with.
I read they did a negotiated stock for debt swap, where the investors agreed to hold / renegotiate the debt until BTU repurchased all that debt. (Isn't that what's going on now? Renegotiating with debt holders?
I'm sure the renegotiation(s) will go on until they repurchased all the committed stock. At these prices, the process could go pretty quickly. With all that negative news about BTU. Remember, negative news can be an asset as well! (Things are not always what they seem).
At the price of the shares currently, BTU could be repurchasing all that commitment and banking a profit from the sales of their coal shipments.
I did identify you that China and India as well as other Asian countries have no carbon caps, and they don't have any, or have very little coal reserves themselves!
Additionally, I see river barge lines and rail coal cars everyday, several time a day 24/7 going up and down the Mighty Mississippi everyday!
I think some want me to not trust "My Lying Eyes" but I know better, I see it everyday. I believe what I see. Also, our local steel mills put everybody back to work full time, and had to hire more workers for the increased orders.
One thing I like to add, if BTU does repurchase all their shares, they could do a RS (Reverse Stock Split). I've seen it happen before with other companies. (So keep a watchful eye out. Anything can happen).
Between you and me, (and others on this board), I don't subscribe to any news outlets.
Naturally, everything here are my opinions only.
GO-COAL
GO-NATURAL GAS
GO-OIL
GO-C02
GO-WOOD
Thanx Sam. That was exactly one of the points I was making in response to your question.
Your DD spoke for itself. The facts are the facts!
It is said: You can't fool Mother Nature.....
And, only fools rush in...... (I'm sure you know what I mean : )
Nuff said : )
GO-OIL
GO-COAL
GO-C02
GO-WOOD
GO-NATURAL GAS
Thank Hatter.
Great example for how some of us do it here : )
A posted DD link to support our post(s) and my last post!
Thanks again.
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM??
No nastiness. Just stating facts. No name calling. An azz is an azz. Fact.
I'm just posting what I believe. No nastiness, no name calling. If you took it that way, it's your problem. My beliefs are still the same.
Remember, there is no polite way to cross a boundary. I call things out with backup, Where is yours?
Claiming "I had confidential interviews with those in the know" is "like getting news from anonymous source(s)" which is better known as fake news. (No creditability here).
Most here post our "news sources" with links to backup our work and so others can check it out and make up their own opinion, and some add other DD. It's called DD.
So far, all you have done here is bashed "nastiness" and invoked conjecture without backing up, your claims.
The only thing you appear to have correct is that I am defensive. I will defend this company until you or anyone can 'SHOW ME THE DD TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS".
As far as the the Q3 financials, financing, etc... are concerned, we are in the pinks. There should be some enforcement, but in reality, there is no concrete time tables for reporting. When they get here, they get here. (I wish it were different, but that is what we have in pinky land).
Granted, lack of communication is an issue. We all here have had issue(s) with that, but it appears to be the way it is for now. We are hopeful things will get better with those issue(e). This company has came a long way, and has room for improvement(s).
Now lets evaluate your position:
"I did my DD" (Where is it)?
"I had confidential interviews with those in the know". (Who are the ones in the know)?
"What was the contents of the discussion and the factual back up)?
"What are the lawsuits". (What company is involved. Who are the individuals involved and where are the publications)?
"Charade reaks of pump and dump" (What exactly constitutes a "Charade" and what identifies the reaking parts)?
I'd like to give you an opportunity to try to lobby us to help make us understand your position. This is so we don't have to be so critical or "defensive" about your posts!
GO-OBCN
GO-DR.DOKI
GO-SAM???