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Had picked some up in the 0.30's earlier this week, but peanuts , wish i had bought more. hopeing for a double next week.
$30 to break even? that would have to put your buy in price @ 0.60. Dont remember the stock ever being that high. I lost more than $1000 and many on this board lost more than me.
greek foods? That was was DGKO, where have you been? Have you even looked at the company since then?
You never now cargo may get the last laugh....
I understand your point but those #'s you post in the billions and high hundreds of millions never existed. What seems to have happened is the entire share structure has changed. If you go back and do the math from February the total volume since then comes close to 100million maybe less. And lets not forget the pre-existing shares that Mindset had in the float and restricted shares sold back in 1999. Something made the company do this, something from the past shell.
Will report it when i find out.
Im not buying either at these levels, im waiting for it to settle somwhere and establish a regular trading pattern.
You havent been here long enough Pokervertigo, the entire board did the math at the time of the r/s and we all concluded on that number....go back and look at the posts. Or just ask anyone else here.
You are getting the wrong impression on the relationship we have here on the board. WE ALL LOST MONEY! Some have different theories and dd capabilities. Others think the future is bright and others think were getting fleeced! NO one is wrong, we learn as we go with this company!
There is no hate here but we are not like the other boards on ihub; either full of pumpers or bashers, the balance is even here!
You lost the ceos #? after you called him! Im the liar? You are the one who calls the transfer agents finds out everything and doesnt make everything known to the board...YOU CAREFULLY LEFT OUT THE FACT THAT MORE THAN 95% OF THE O/S IS RESTRICTED FOR 2 YEARS! WHY?
DID YOU HAVE PINKSHEETS UPDATE THEIR WEBSITE? OF COURSE NOT, ITS NOT TO YOUR BENEFIT!
112,000,000 Restricted for 2 years!
Are those 116,000,000 free trading? What are you saying now isrealpro. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORD RESTRICTED! YOU CAREFULLY KEPT THIS BIT OF INFORMATION FROM THE BOARD!
Isrealpro you also asked me to remove all your posts. Remember?
Listen i have no grudge with you guys and dont take sides, i dont put my faith in ceos or politicians. I just want to make money by sharing ideas or "tips" and in the process make some freinds.
Have had my attention on nasdaq russell stocks lately, the entire microcap mkt has been a bloodbath as of late, i cant even sell my AUGC stock. We are not playing poker here were each player is trying to take money from the guy sitting next to them! You got a chart or some insight concerning VPFI share it, dont create an atmosphere of chaos or panic.
I too criticize the company more on their timing, we are talking about the company that gave us a 20% divi not too long ago, i think that may have been a wrong move which may have awoken Mindset interactive shareholders and market makers or funds that had dealings with the company. The reverse should have happened last year when it went to 20cents but who am i to know, the pink sheets are nothing like any market out there today. 3rd world countries have markets more regulated and structured than the pink sheets. Think about it, the pink sheets market is owned by an englishman who gets a small percentage of every shared traded daily!
you told me you talked to the ceo last week in a private message, i talked to him this today, i called and left a message on thursday, i dont send emails.
You still dont understand it isrealpro,
5billion? Not even 5million!
You are the same guy who called the transfer agent prior to the reverse split and noted that the float was 60million.
The entire share structure has changed and the company and its officers have their hands tied for 2year to the week!
What we must concentrate on now is where will the stock settle and for how long will it hibernate when it does. If they are looking for help we must assume they are not closing their doors or changing their business plan. We also have to assume that all of those who had millions of mindset of shares or convertibles have had their positions turned into very small position. So everyone has been hurt financially in the short term but now we must ask who controls the stock price and no one is in possession of a large stock position to effect the share price as was the case prior to the r/s. The company and its officers can not sell for 2 years, where will and where has the money come from if they company cant dillute? Lets ask ourselves these questions
PokerVertigo the company had a float of 60million prior to the reverse, i must look up the total o/s, im not gonna make up lies or theories. This was the original share structure of mindset interactive a company listed on the otcbb, so it was reporting and many of it sec files can be found on edgar. You will see there that there were stock transaction in the million to offshore venture when the stock was trading at $3-$5. So you must speculate that mindset had millions of shares in the float and many restricted shares offshores. Is such a share structure healthy? NO
I would i do beleive is the company should have performed a reverse split upon taking the shell over and cleaning out the theives that were in the stock, not now.
How can we assume the company was diluting? The number do not indicate that.
Someone spots a job posting on monster.com and bashes! How is this a bad thing or a joke? Give me the number i can use 250k a year! did it include benefits?
Yes they issued themselves over 100million shares. Which they cant sell for 2years as of last week so October 2008! who is supposed to own the majority of the shares? Whoever is in possession of the shares controls the company, its employees, and future!
they owned the same percentage wise prior to the reverse split. Then the float was 60 million and you posted that on this board. What did they dump in the past year and of that what was in the float prior to VPFI taking over the shell....the original share structure of Mindset Interactive! so what did they dump?
How is a reverse split an excuse to issue more shares. 95% of the stock is restricted for TWO YEARS.
why would a company drive down its float and in the process raise its share price. And then on top of it restrict itself from selling its shares for two years?
PokerVertigo "trader"? where did u come from all of a sudden? I have made money and lost money with this stock. How did they steal your money? Do the math and THINK! Where is or was the dilution! Where did the money go! And dont play the investor with the group, you just show up out of the blue talking about the outstanding!
Why didnt you inform us about the restricted shares, no you didnt . Why? That FACT didnt suprise you or the others did it! Seems like you knew but didnt care to share this very important peice of info!
Talk straight and the truth on this board and take your agenda elsewhere!
Now put your heads together and realize what are the possibilities if the float is only 4 million. Company has 96% of outstanding restricted!
spend a quarter and call the TA, get the outstanding and then kindly ask what is the total restricted. Like asking for a straw for your drink at mcdonalds, common sense
Then they let that known to you, ask for how long or what period and as of when! You may need a degree for this question BESTVD
Are you claiming to be a shorter here ISREALPRO?
wow, are you trading in the caymans?
PokerVertigo before you go out and put egg on your face go and ask the transfer agent the share structure, 112,000,000 shares restricted FOR 2 YEARS, buckooo
Isrealpro will you also have pinksheets adjust for the 112,000,000 shares restricted for 2 years from the start of last week which would reflect a float of 4 million shares?
Lets see your true colors here!
isrealpro and bestVD you both provide links to file complaints, do you want others on the board to file them for you? whats the problem are you both not in the USA? are you possibly living offshore, in shark infested waters?
Best VD so you admit that what i have posted are facts? So you knew about the 112,000,000 restricted!
why didnt you share this with the board then and made me spend 3 phone calls to the transfer agent. If you were a true investor or trader you would have shared this bit of information before you made claims of dillution!
That my question to you. and im not laughing
BEST VD :
As I refered to before if you paid attention..LOL
Go back and look at the now defunct Mindset Interactive a former OTCBB COMPANY whose shell VPFI took over to bring their company public, they had millions of dollars of stock structured deals with offshore ventures! HOW DO YOU GET RID OF SUCH A CANCER THAT CAN ONLY DO HARM TO YOUR STOCK? You see old shareholders of Mindset get their stock converted to VPFI shares by LAW! GO AND ASK ANY INTERNET LAWYER THAT, BE CERTAIN ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SPEAKING ABOUT!
To youre second statement , if you claim that the company is dumping stock to feed themselves or steal from investors then why are they looking for an employee to give 250k to? DID you ever ask yourself this question?
Isrealpro is the one who gave me the heads up on the job posting. I dont recall what the requirments were, why dont you call and apply for the job obviously they are looking for qualified employees if they are paying large sums and confident about their future and want the right people working there..
think before you lol....lol
Enough with the caps, had to let that out of my system after exactly one week of research and dd that took me as far back as 1999. I had spoken with the tranfer agent 3 times over that period, each time learning something new! I didnt even have to look elsewhere because i knew everything i needed to know was in the NUMBERS.
DO YOUR DD FOLKS, DONT LET OTHERS DO IT FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY WILL ONLY FILL YOUR MINDS WITH LIES, GETTING THEM CLOSER TO THEIR GOAL.
IF THEY WERE SO CONCERNED THEY WOULD HAVE CONTACTED THE SEC THEMSELVES NOT ASKED YOU TO DO IT FOR THEM.........WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING!
VPFI float 4 million. Outstanding shares are 116 million of which 112 are restricted for 2 years as of last weeks reverse split! ALL PER THE TRANSFER AGENT!
Isrealpro YOU WERE FAST TO POST THE CEO'S # ON THE BOARD, WHAT ABOUT THAT SPAM LETTER YOU SUPPOSEDLY RECEIVED LAST WEEK
IF IT WAS REAL AND TRUE YOU WOULD HAVE POSTED THAT WITH THE SAME EASE AND INTENTION! WHERE IS IT? JUST ANOTHER PLOY TO BRING DOUBT INTO THE MINDS OF BEWILDERED SHAREHOLDERS! WELL LETS SEE!
THERE WAS NO SPAM BECAUSE EVERY SPAM ESPECIALLY STOCK SPAMS ARE MONITORED BY SPAM GROUPS THAT LIST EVERY STOCK BEING SPAMMED UP TO THE MINUTE BEGINNING AT 1AM EVERY NITE AND UPDATED EVERY 15MINUTES!
REASON FOR LARGE RESTRICTED STOCK POSITION! Do you know the answer to this VD? The shares are restricted for TWO (2) YEARS!
DO YOU KNOW WHY? LET ME TELL YOU WHY!
HOW DOES A SMALL COMPANY WHO HAS INVESTED MUCH OF THEIR OWN MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, OFFICE SPACE, AND PAID PROFESSIONALS KEEP THEIR PATENTED TECHNOLOGY TO THEMSELVES? by keeping the majority of shares to themselves avoiding a hostile takeover at cheap levels.
Anyone who knows about tightly held share structures knows what happens when buying comes in to such a stock it moves in dollar increments. PLANNING MY ENTRY POING!
BESTVD how come you did not find any of this information? I have been compiling this information since the day of the reverse split, all public information! I have both traded and invested in this company since last FEBUARY, and beleiving i too knew everything about this company and before i can come up with conspiracy theories like you, i started doing my research! do the same tomorrow and you to will find the same.
THE COMPANY DID NOT DILLUTE THE FLOAT PRIOR TO THE REVERSE SPLIT!
DO THE MATH AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THAT HAVE NOT EVEN COMPLETED AND OR DONE A RAISE!
Last year the company reversed merged into a shell that had been dormant for many years
They did not complete a reverse split at that time which would have cleaned out any old shareholders from the previous company. (This is when in my opinion they should have completed a reverse)
That float at that time had to have been in the high millions. They company instead paid a dividend to shareholders upon changing their business plan to a technology driven holdings company.
This in addition increased the float. And if my memory serves me right we had confirmations by both isrealpro and others that the float was 60,000,000 prior to the float! WHERE IS THE DUMPING OR DILLUTION?
The stock has been manipulated by either past shareholders who you can find as offshore interests that had invested in or done financing with the prior shell company that is now defunct.
THE FLOAT IS STILL 4 MILLION!
The current rev split caught us all off guard but after doing some serious dd and asking the transfer agent the "right" questions i was able to determine some very promising information that everyone here can confirm by calling the transfer agent tomorrow!
YES the Outstanding shares are 116,000,000 BUT WHAT SOME OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE GRASPED FROM THE TRANSFER AGENT IS THAT OF THE
116,000,000 SHARES OUTSTANDING 112,000,000 ARE RESTRICTED AND GUESS FOR HOW LONG.............2 YEARS AS OF THE REVERSE SPLIT! WHAT IS THE FLOAT NOW ======= 4,000,000 SHARES
READ IT AND CONFIRM IT TOMORROW AND TELL EVERYONE ELSE!
Was the company every listed on the Frankfurt exchange?
Funny how everyones blind to SAOL's movement, not even a basher or pumper in sight! Where does it go from here? ill be happy with a couple more dollars.
SAOL $2.45
SAOL 2.30 X 2.35
SAOL great accumulation level y'day. going much higher.