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Easy to bet the house with worthless chips. There are millions of worthless Cardinal chips out there!
Radio silence! Well its not like we have any info to post! Same old nothing burger.
Well lets each do $.50 and own the company! According to Garreal its a sure thing!
I agree. There is nothing left. Even if they did, who would believe the information? Its not like anyone trusts them. My attorney contacted the SEC and we turning over all my documents regarding the Bradford/CEGX/Cardinal to the SEC. Anything I can do to pile on charges will be pleasurable.
Garreal you taking that bet now!
Mostly it was to avoid civil judgments and now criminal. If they even had 1 asset, then you could attempt that argument. It would still be shot down, but at least something. Who in this crazy world would invest in a company charged with fraud , no assets, talent or dignity? CEGX/Cardinal is a dead company. The only question remains is who goes down with captain Tim? I have a list of at least 15 prior and current management and employees that will be ensnarled with no way out but to plea. If they thought life was stressful before, it's just beginning. Can't say anyone will feel bad for them! I told Tim 2 years ago that we wouldn't stop pushing and it wouldn't end well. Its all finally happening.
Hmmm, no assets, no money, SEC fraud charges, FBI inquires, civil lawsuits and filings years behind. I think anyone takes that bet!
I would bet on default judgment. Thats what Crawford did with the Bradford. Just didn't show up! Anyway who would pay the legal? Ford? Maybe he will open a Visa card!
If CEGX hasn't responded by now what's the point. Its not like they have information that helps or they would have done it by now. Crawford and anyone who worked with and for him are screwed. Current management allowed stock to trade and absolutely new fraud has occurred. They didn't suspend trading. They have responded or provided their investors requested information. They broke civil and criminal law.
Garreal has no clue what he is saying. He apparently doesn't know the facts
It doesn't take 60 days to respond. They have had years! We know its just another excuse to get more time.
Yes they are scumbags. Crawford, Ford and Peterson have nowhere to hide now. They have to provide the info. Tim will not be the only one going down.
Thanks for the info. I would love to be a fly on the wall when he got notified! I am sure he was expecting it. I wish nothing but the worst outcome for this loser. As for Ford and the new crew, they still refuse to provide any financial information related to the Bradford to my attorney. I am a direct investor and owner of the JV and they refuse just as Tim did. We all know why. If there was nothing there then they would have provided me with the requested information 3 years ago. New management has had the finials and knew of the fraud, some probably were part of it. By not notifying the SEC or investors they became part of the fraud. By allowing stock to be traded, they became part of the fraud. If I were Ford and the others I would expect similar charges to be filed soon against them.
Well like one wise man said "We fly high". So deep and poetic.
Most everyone lost something. The prior posts are really funny now looking back. Fairtrader was by far the best. He was so serious and pumped up. Super intense. He kind of made me nervous that he would snap and we would see him I the news! If your out there fairtrader, gives us a post!
I went back and read some old posts from jessejames and others. They were so excited about filings and the "inside" info they were getting from Cardinal. If you want to be amused go back and read a few. So much enthusiasm. So much optimism.
That is an interesting question. That deal never made sense to me and once we knew more details really got confusing. I think there will be many others named in suits that got involved with them. Some knew and others didn't, but the court will sort that out.
Not sure how they could respond?
It would go like this: Hey we have been charged with fraud do you want to buy worthless stock! We have no assets btw!
I think not responding to any of it speaks volumes. Its not like they didn't know it was coming. There isn't anything they can put out that anyone would believe.
What I meant was, he kept saying "big things are coming" and "filings coming". He kept building the company up. You cant take an executive level position without some background checking. Type in Cardinal/CEGX and its not hard to see the disaster. If he got the nod to sell he would have sold you anything to get the commission. He just couldn't sell anything because they knew SEC and FBI were sniffing around. That was my point. He's a sales guy. Guy sells AFLAC and snap he is a VP selling oil? The only similarity is sales. He's a D-bag, admit it!
Hate to knock your BFF, but he's a douche like the rest of them. How could someone sign on as an executive and pump the company up with so much info on the internet. He knew enough to step out at anytime. He didn't. Just like the Ford, Peterson etc... Of course he is going to act all nice and friendly. He is an AFLAC sales guy. He just wants to close a deal, get paid and move on. Can't stand guys like him. All they care about is their commission at any cost. Would love him or any of the scammers to answer anyones calls, emails or texts now!
Appreciate your continued insight and expertise. You have been right every time. The supporters have been wrong 100% of the time. Say no more.
Of course he knew. All of them did. Before he took the job he did. There is so much more to this story but the conclusion is they are thieves, liars and terrible humans. I will enjoy seeing the lot of them lose everything.
You know it will be Tim. He is a sociopath. He has all the documents. He would sell his own mother down the river.
The press release is not a legal document. The lawsuit and filings are. When they say "Cardinal" they are saying all of Cardinal. That means anyone at anytime. 60 more days! We have heard that before. Any company that gets named in a fraud suit and doesn't respond immediately unheard of. They won't file.
When all the info comes out there will be criminal charges. Cardinal and CEGX go down as well. All the SEC and FBI have is time. It doesn't cost them anything to prosecute all these liars and crooks.
I think everyone here will disagree. Cardinal, CEGX and ALL execs are in hot water as well. Anyone of them could have blown the whistle along the way. Nothing. Just wait until more info comes out. The Bradford disaster was setup by all of them and ruined by them. No one will see a dime from the company because they don't have any. However, the it will be fun watching all of them in court. Their lives are ruined and none of us cares! It will be nice to watch.
Pretty sure it wouldn't make sense!
They will. It is just the beginning. It will eventually include all the executives along the way. There is no way most if not all knew. They will all go down with Tim. As many of us have said a long time ago, these guys are ALL scammers and liars. It will be a blood bath. Watch the finger pointing start so they can save their own asses.
You meant, Not Shocking! If its not clear by now what idiots and thieves these guys are there's no hope for you. This is the natural sequence before charges are filed. Every single one of them will start to lawyer-up. We won't hear anything from them from here on out. Anyone who has ever been employed by them should be scared as hell. You don't screw with the SEC and FBI. If your a stockholder its worthless now.
Well it looks like its the end. We all knew this day would come. Its time for Ford and Peterson to produce or face the music. Anyone that has been connected with Cardinal and CEGX will be included in lawsuits and FBI/SEC probe and charges. They should be very worried. Watch these guys scatter like mice!
Pretty sure that's true. So far it's working. Ford, Dan and Peterson give the same vague useless statements. If they provided the actual needed information to the auditors and SEC it would have been done a year ago. They are hoping to give them enough to just get by. Its a joke. Do they think this is the first time the SEC has investigated a scam?
Still a douchebag!
Who knows. As many have stated, they are screwed either way.
Seems pretty quiet. No surprise nothing from Ford.
No one legit. They will take care of themselves. Any info they give us is just table scraps.
There are no insiders. There is nothing. You can't be an insider on nothing. Anyone left are just stuck.
No kidding. Perfect world everyone gets their money back and they go to jail. Unfortunately, only 1 of theses are a possibility and you know which one it is!
If only that was the reason they haven't filed! It sure sounded good. Everyday they don't file is one more day they reman out of jail. Remember, when/if they file it will be chalked full of lies which gets them busted. If it is accurate, they get busted. Either way its no bueno.
Pretty sure its 83.5%
Almost meaning 2019? What does "close" mean? We have lost count of their promises.