Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
WTM - Nearly every industrialized country is falling way behind schedule.
With a couple of small (country) exceptions, like Malta, nearly every nation will miss their targets.
Just last week, Australia opted NOT TO CLOSE their largest coal-fired power station, and biggest polluter.
Cutting Carbon costs much more than anyone initially realized, just look at what is happening with on road FCEV's.
WTM - "Highlights" ? LOL
PUMP & DUMP !
Banger - Probably all of those BOUNSES they gave themselves.
north - DUH.
Renewables includes Hydro, Waves, Ocean currents, Pump Storage....
WHERE IS PLUG ??????
Does anyone remember the goofy PLUG logo on the Alpine F-1 race cars ?
I attended the F-1 race last weekend and the PLUG logo was nowhere to be seen.
Uh Oh.
IGTM - The quickest and easiest path to decarbonization is with electricity, Renewables and Nukes and whatever else comes in the future.
If you need proof, just count the number of BEV's versus FCEV's in use. The rate of growth in BEV's is still exponential, while the rate of growth for FCEV's is already slowing .... NOT a Good Sign.
The biggest drawback for this transition is politics/policy and the total incompetence in the leadership in the Utility Sector Globally.
Decarbonization is the biggest gift in history since the light bulb for the Utility Sector and no one there is smart enough to pick up all of the money just lying on the ground.
Two more points : 1.) Hydrogen will always be uneconomic (without massive subsidies) , so every penny spent on Hydrogen instead of true decarbonization is a penny wasted.
2.) Utilities are managed by Electrical Engineers, not the most innovative group to evolve. Until real businesspeople and innovators start running the well capitalized utilities we will have as much carbon tomorrow as we have today.
Face the Truth. CLNE is a niche play and NOTHING MORE !
This Scam began when T. Boone Pickens went long cheap natural gas and his failed attempt to create a higher value market as an automotive fuel.
CLNE has squandered Billions over-building a network of CNG stations for what is nothing more than a small niche. Honda, Volvo, Ford and GM have all stopped NGV production, so the market is municipal vehicles and a small segment of long-haul trucks.
And throughout its history, management has lived well on shareholder's dimes.
This future of CLNE is small. The growth of CLNE is small. To date, only the insiders have profited
Steve - Please be sure to let the others know about their click bait posts as well.
Did I mention LINDE ?
Did someone mention Air Products ?
B_B!
Re: None
Thursday, May 30, 2024 4:07:29 AM
Post#
56674
of 56690
Air Products unveils plans for statewide hydrogen refuelling network in California
By Charlie Currie on May 30, 2024
Air Products wants to build a network of hydrogen refuelling stations stretching from California’s north to the south.
Planned to serve heavy-duty vehicles and light-duty passenger cars, the industrial gas giant has said each permanent station will have capacity to fuel up to 200 heavy-duty trucks or 2,000 cars per day.
Currently operating six hydrogen refuelling stations in southern California, Air Products has not revealed how many stations will make up the planned network.
.....
https://www.h2-view.com/story/air-products-unveils-plans-for-statewide-hydrogen-refuelling-network-in-california/2110560.article/
__________________________________________________________
AND STEVE ... Did you write :
scubastevemd
Re: Jack_Bolander post# 56679
Friday, May 31, 2024 10:19:41 AM
Post#
56682
of 56690
BB is one of the few posters that adds something to the board. God, knows we need a balance against all the negative garbage.
I LOVE IRONY
Steve - I will happily do so, right after WTM, Banger, you and B_B do so.
Every day there is at least one article that has nothing at all to do with PLUG. Even you thanked B_B for contributing his tripe, today.
This is the only reason why I add to the noise. I would love to see everyone stop posting nonsense.
The difference is very few posters here actually provide actual thought and analytics.
Steve - Please let me know when I post something that is not correct.
I will happily make a full retraction .. I always do. It just doesn't happen very often
Interesting New HECO News.
Great Plan! One Year and 100+ people too late !
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/weather/hawaii-power-cuts-wildfires/index.html
B_B - Is this the last day of May ?
And we aren't at $10 !
Oh Happy Day.
___________________________________________________
B_B!
Re: Jack_Bolander post# 56273
Monday, April 29, 2024 9:53:35 AM
Post# 56278 of 56679
JB, if Plug is still under $10 by the end of next month (May), I’ll stop posting here.
govprs - Really ? You can't think of a better place to invest your money?
No company in the universe that might do better than PLUG ?
A best in breed, profitable, top tier management, able to cash flow capital projects instead of begging for government loan guarantees ?
Please try to think of one or two.
Steve - I was being fair in not posting your story, because I also didn't want to overload this board with BAD NEWS.
Like This :
https://investorplace.com/2024/05/3-sorry-hydrogen-stocks-to-sell-in-may-while-you-still-can/
Here is an Interesting Read :
Another Day Another Bad Bought & Paid For Hydrogen Pipeline Report, This One From Arup
https://cleantechnica.com/2024/05/26/another-day-another-bad-bought-paid-for-hydrogen-pipeline-report-this-one-from-arup/amp/
FIFTY CENTS !
Two shares will buy you a pack of chewing gum.
Chewing gum is a better investment.
MORE BAD NEWS !
Our Strategic Partner, Johnson Matthey, a leading supplier of catalysts and manufacturer of fuel cell and electrolyzer stacks, is reducing its investments in hydrogen technology due to a slower pace of development in the industry.
They say that the hydrogen value chain has slowed as the industry navigates the development of regulation and incentives as well as infrastructure and supply chains. This is being reflected in many of their customers’ near-term demand forecasts..
From Hydrogen Insight .
MORE BAD NEWS !
"Plug Power (NASDAQ:PLUG), another contentious pick, is the last meme stock that AI has identified outright as a company to SELL.
“Plug Power, involved in hydrogen energy, has seen fluctuating stock prices due to market downturns and weak financial results. Concerns about its ability to finance future projects and continued shareholder dilution pose risks to its stock value.”
“Despite having cash and cash equivalents totaling $172.9 million, Plug Power’s ongoing operations and investments result in significant cash outflows. This high cash burn rate necessitates continuous capital raising, which could dilute shareholder value?”.
PLUG is certainly a polarizing name in the hydrogen industry. It has recently shook off fears that it will not remain a going concern, but its high rate of cash burn remains an issue in a speculative industry.
The meme stock is more risky than many of the names listed here, as it is flirting with bankruptcy more closely, and thus should be invested in only by those with an extreme risk tolerance."
WTM - Impressive ? Or ridiculously unattainable?
When you do the math, there is an exceedingly low probability of Australia achieving their hydrogen goals.
Australia is notorious for their grossly unrealistic energy goals. Just last week they postponed the planned shut down of their largest Coal - Fired Power Plant for several years.
B_B - Wow ! Let's put that in some perspective....
Australia has about the same population and GDP as Florida.
Meh.
Banger - PLUG will still be using the ATM as well. PLUG is still burning through money, and no one knows when the loan money will get here.
So until then, and perhaps even after, PLUG is dependent on the ATM.
Jditi - So True.
Therefore:
More Outstanding Shares
EQUALS
More Shareholder Dilution !
B_B - More Outstanding Shares
EQUALS
More Shareholder Dilution !
Another Secondary ? 3.5 million more shares.
What a cheezy move.
I'm so glad PLUG waited for a long holiday weekend to spring this on us.
MORE BAD NEWS !
DOE Loan Pump !
SECONDARY Dump !
https://eletric-vehicles.com/plug-power/plug-power-files-prospectus-for-potential-sale-of-nearly-3-5-million-shares/
Every PLUG Rally Fades.
B_B - SK will buy more PLUG shares if they need another tax break.
A great deal. Buy a big chunk of PLUG, and get to write it off on their taxes.
It looks like SK was taking that big of a risk after all .
Banger - Smart to use cheap Natural Gas instead of expensive hydrogen.
Natural gas is a fraction of the cost of hydrogen, already has an underground pipeline delivery system, and there is no need for expensive storage.
It will probably be decades before the Bloom natural gas units convert to hydrogen
govprs - If that were true, wouldn't interest rates be close to ALL TIME LOWS ?
Who said :
PLUG is Up on No News. ?
Another PLUG Rally, this time thanks to Bloom.
This Rally has no legs and this Rally will Fade.
WTM - Interesting. Toyota was also a major sponsor of the Tokyo Olympics, touted as the " Hydrogen Olympics" as even the flame was hydrogen fueled.
FUNNY Though that Hydrogen was never mentioned in any telecast or commercial, nor was there any signage with the word Hydrogen.
Toyota's ad agency funded several focus groups for the impact of their Mirai car commercials and every group had a negative reaction to the word hydrogen, with comments like : Explosive. Dangerous. H-Bomb. Hindenburg .
As a result, Hydrogen was never mentioned at the "Hydrogen Olympics".
Steve - Space - X uses Kerosene / Jet Fuel (same spec) and LNG .
Nasa buys from the lowest bidder. Is PLUG's Liquid H2 cheaper than Linde's ? APD's ?
Or will PLUG sell it below cost?
PLUG is Up on No News. ?
Another PLUG Rally, this time thanks to Bloom.
This Rally has no legs and this Rally will Fade.
The DOE LOAN Rally ..... Fades !
Not enough the reverse the Trend.
A Nothing Burger. again.
Steve - Batteries are cheaper and so is electricity ; much cheaper.
And WTM, I am watching the advances in Capacitors . We are seeing much quicker charging and much longer ranges.
B_B - Nice recovery !
Steve - Let's lay off a bunch of people and pay ourselves great BIG Bonuses ... Because we deserve it.
Banger - Every PR is the same. Weak on details and metrics . And then ... Gotcha !
Walmart. Amazon. Riley. Every deal turns out not to be as good as originally advertised.
Now ANDY is guesstimating 4-6 months ? Like the Georgia Plant ?
I'll take the OVER, Please !