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Your wrong sir!!! Management will suddenly decide to give a shit about their shareholders and will magically turn this thing around!!!!!!!
According to many on here expecting the company that you've made an investment in to keep their word to shareholders makes you a skeptic.
That's laughable man. The way they have handles the fins is the very opposite of professional. Professionals don't set deadlines and then not meet them and then act like they don't know what your talking about when you inquire about it. Professional? Wow.
You have to admit that the reply Tom got when asking them about financials is fishy. They are basically denying they ever set a deadline for fins. How does that not concern you?
What? Wow very reassuring.
I truly wish I could have the optimism you and others here share. What's your opinion on this IR thing? Everyone knows they have their boot heel on the throat of this stock and have for a long time. No one has any clue as to when they will be done and APT seems less than interested in getting them off our throat. The way I see it APT went public for the same reason most go public, to pay off debt. The difference is they made a deal with the devil to do it and very irresponsibly to the shareholders let IR burn this thing to the ground. Now they are up and running and getting their company going but it feels like they don't really care what happens to us or the stock. They got out of debt by letting shareholders pay it off, they got what they wanted and now they are going to just leave their stock to die. This is my cynical view of things and again I hope I'm wrong.
Ok thanks, I knew you never left, wasn't saying that. I guess you can write it off as a rookie mistake but man I tell you that was a pretty big one in my opinion, it's not hard to figure out to not make that promise when you know ticker change is out of your hands and you've already delayed the fins once. These guys have not earned the benefit of the doubt with me yet because they have not done one shareholder friendly thing yet. I sure hope your right and I'm wrong in all this, I'll gladly eat crow all day. Just really have no faith in this management or this stock anymore but I'm not going to sell now at such a loss because I just can't stomach it. So I'll just keep praying that all you optimists are right eventually and that I am wrong.
Hello haven't seen ya in a while. What is your honest sentiment about them missing their second deadline for fins and not even giving is an explanation why? Do you not fine that very unprofessional and misleading? Or do you give them a pass just because like so many others here?
Yeah this stinks honestly. I'm pretty pessimistic by nature but even I had fairly high hopes for today and this is what we get . I'm afraid we have a lemon here.
This is exactly what I've been saying. If you sit back and look at the situation the fact is they have us a second deadline and then missed it and have carried on like they never set a deadline. No accountability as far as I can tell. We need those financials and they are ignoring us. Very unprofessional and not trustworthy is the only way I can see this issue as far as I'm concerned.
For some reason I'm not seeing price ticker anymore
Dude they have to have an excuse for everything. They will always make up some reason they shouldn't be releasing fins.
They have to do something about IR plain and simple, hopefully they can just pay them off with some cerner money. Good lord I still can't fathom how you make that deal, it's disgusting.
This. Ok so we got name change so why oh why would they not release fins first thing this morning before market open? Would that not have been perfect timing? I'm willing to go with everyone's theory that they were holding fins back until name change ( even though I don't agree with them not meeting their own deadline for them or not letting us know something ) but if they truly were just sitting on them until name change how do you not release them first thing this morning to hopefully propel your momentum even further?
Yes me
Fine. Then they should not have set that date as their second deadline if they knew ticker wasn't in their power correct?
I'm very glad and hopeful that ticker change will bring big things, I'm also happy we had a good day for a change. That being said they still haven't released fins and even the loosest interpretation of the first week of July is about to come to a close. I know I know everyone keeps saying don't want to release it under old ticker, then we should have been issued a pr simply stating that. They are the ones who set the deadline not me, so I'm not willing to just completely let them off the hook for that as so many here are. Just my two cents so go ahead and flame away at me, call me negative and whatever else.
Dude I agree with you but what your saying will fall on def ears by those on here who want to come up with strange reasons why it's anyone but APT's fault they've now missed 2 fins deadlines in a row now, this time without even an explanation. Your like me and want this company and stock to succeed but if you don't bury your head in the sand and fart rainbows and sunshine all day while this stock continues to burn and management continues to drop the ball you will be persecuted here.
Sounds like he ignored the part about financials.
I hope your right but we all know this will not see above a penny until massive dilution is gone, share structure is fixed and financials are transparent. I hope all that gets fixed but I just have a hard time placing a lot of faith in these guys at the moment givin the last few months. I would absolutely love to be wrong and will happily come on here and eat crow all day long if I am I promise you that.
Apply this logic... They set a deadline for financials to be released and missed it for the second time on a row, there is no defending that. Everyone understands that ticker change isn't in their hands, so perhaps the smart thing for them to have done was to not set a deadline that they weren't sure they could keep. Perhaps your the one who needs to learn to apply some logic. Sorry if me stating facts is a downer to your little crazy parade but I have stated nothing that is untrue . It's weird that I and a few others keep talking about them missing the fins deadline and then all of you sunshine Pumpers keep saying that ticker change isn't in their hands. Let me make it perfectly clear because somehow this still hasn't gotten through to some of you.... We are irritated because they missed their second deadline for releasing financials!!! And yes that is totally and completely in their hands!!! And yes if they are missing said deadline because they want it released under new ticker it is within their hands to tell us that!!!! Stop being in denial.
I'm not trying to make a quick buck, I'm simply staring that what is right is right. Keep your word and do not be deceiving and no one can ask any more than that. No one expects great things from financials and neither do I, what I do expect is to be treated with some measure of respect and to not be lied to and mislead which is exactly what is happening here. If you go to the store and buy a game that you don't end up liking but is the game that was advertised and plays like it says it should then that's on you, no big deal it just wasn't as good as you thought, but if you go buy a game and it's not even the same kind of game that was advertised and you were mislead then I view that is a big problem and not ok in my book. Maybe that metaphor only makes sense in my head I don't know but the bottom line is I'm not looking to become a millionaire over night but I do expect to be told the truth. Down here in penny land I know lies abound by lots of these companies but don't expect me to appreciate it when it happens. Seems to me lots of people here scream how this stock is not a scam but they let them off the hook in a lot of areas they wouldn't let other stocks off so easily.
This is the sentiment I don't understand. Yes I hit the buy button, no one made me and I don't blame anyone for my losses this far. Why the hell does that let them off the hook and make it ok for them to lie to us and miss deadlines? They are two totally separate things and I don't know why people always lump them together!! In my opinion me making the decision to buy there stock does not make it ok for them to by dishonest and irresponsible towards the shareholders!! I mean my god this seems like common sense, am I just insane?
Keep saying news will be released soon and eventually you will be right, doesn't make you a profit. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I get them wanting to wait for ticker change to release financials but they shouldn't have promised us them at a certain time if they knew it was going to be out of their hands with ticker. There should have been a pr by now telling us why they haven't released them by now, especially considering that this is the second date they have missed for the financials. I get wanting to be optimistic but anyone sticking up for them on this issue at this point is just in denial. It's well within their power to issue a statement on these matters and anyone with a sense of right and wrong knows that that is in order, yet here we sit being totally ignored by these guys.
Yeah you still have people on here every day saying " buying more at these prices!!! Thanks for the shares!!!!" Then again I've personally watched these clowns say the same thing all the way from about .02 down. How do all those buys look now fellas?
It's beyond me how anyone can defend these guys at this point but believe me many on here will. Sheeple.
I agree, it goes a long way when people treat you like you matter and not ignore you, it would also earn them a lot more patience from many of us. It's a shame they show no respect to the shareholder.
Sure wish they would either release financials or pr us why they aren't because every day we get neither is a slap in the face to the shareholders ( then again after the brutal bludgeoning they have laid on is so far I guess slaps in the face don't really matter:) seriously though I understand wanting to wait for ticker change but apparently FINRA has something against APT and are going to drag this on and on and on so they need to just say the hell with them and release the financials.... Everyone knows the deal by now, that this is no longer frozen foods and that APT has taken that company over so there really should be no confusion.
Don't disagree with anything you said. I've been in this one for a good long while and I certainly didn't put money in that I can't afford to lose, having said that a few months ago my expectations were the " to tha moon " type mentality, now honestly I'd just be thrilled to break even. I'd say that a definetly a lowering of expectations and I'm guessing many are right there with me. The stock seems to have all the potential in the world but then again here we sit at 2 tenths of a penny soooo.
How far our expectations have fallen.
I agree with what your saying about speculation, the problem is they should have addressed us by now with why they have not released the financials for the second time. They know after the first delay and the way this stock has been burning that the shareholders and share price will not hold up well with yet more disappointment, and even more with no transparency about it. I mean honestly how can you handle these last few months with this stock any worse? I honestly don't think it's possible.
Does FINRA have absolutely no timeline they have to follow? Because most have thought for weeks we would be getting change yet on and on and on we wait.
And oh yeah the best news in the world want move this stock until they quit diluting into the news. They have to do something about this IR deal it's insane. People keep saying this isn't a scam stock because they have real products but I guess that just depends on your definition of a scam stock. To me a scam stock is one that does exactly what this one is doing, taking all your money to pay for their problems and lining their pockets without any regard whatsoever for the common shareholder. Maybe they will turn it around once ticker change comes but until then this stock has proven to be nothing but a scam stock in my eyes.
It's going to take audited fins, good or bad we need the transparency, it's also going to take share restructure from this terrible one we have now. That's it plain and simple. I've been saying this for months but most don't seem to get it or want to get it. If the company is interested in their stock this will be a money train, if they only went public to pay off their debt we are screwed.
I understand the ticker change itself want have much impact, but it is my desperate hope that what some are believing is true and that they are just waiting for the ticker change to start releasing the good news and perhaps fixing this share structure to get this going in the right direction. Its a fools hope, but a hope none the less, and all I can really hold onto at this point.
FINRA needs to be held accountable at some point!! This shit has dragged on long enough!! We've been waiting almost a month and people are losing money daily in part to their slow moving asses. FINRA stop being lazy and give us the F%^}ng name change already .
I just keep wondering why they never let this thing run at all! Wouldn't it be better for everyone involved? Let the price occasionally go up, especially on news, that way when you do dilute you get more money per share and at the same time the stock doesn't end up torched into the ground with nobody willing to touch it with a ten foot pole. People can argue that the deal had to be made or didn't, but if they cared one smidge about investors there would have been some stipulations placed on that deal where IR could get there money but in a way that didn't burn the stock and the shareholders to the ground. Instead they just said the hell with it this will pay off our debt so go ahead IR burn it to the ground and shareholders be damned.
No I have all the time in the world, I'm just dubious that they are ever going to use this as anything other than an ATM machine. Time will tell and I hope your right. I just don't trust this management.
It's good to have optimism but do you not see something very wrong with the fact that everytime we get these seemingly great PR's we end the day even or negative? I mean these are pr's' that would move a lot of these stocks down here 2 and 300 percent, yet time after time all they do is dilute into the news. Seems shameful to me, then again so far these guys have shown no remorse or restraint from screwing the shareholders into the ground.