If we had some eggs, we could have eggs and ham. If we had some ham.
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That’s great. Unfortunately I don’t know you. Even if you showed me, I’d be a fool to take the word of a total stranger.
I’m a spoiled brat because I’m not getting what I want? You mean a competent business partner?
Walter can’t give a shout out to KBLB? His partner? He’s highlighted other businesses. Why not Kraig ?
Whose Facebook posts? I haven’t seen anything from Kings or WW. No one else’s posts matter. Doesn’t matter how credible the source.
We’ve been waiting a long time for this day to arrive and we don’t need a partner that portrays the image that he couldn’t care less about spider silk. That’s a terrible look.
I ignored it til today’s news for all the reasons people are giving. But today was the last straw. Kings needs to be punted for a partner that’s going to shout from the rooftops.
Do we really want the first ton going to someone that doesn’t care? UA would make the share price soar. Absolutely NO ONE gives a shit that Kings is the first DS customer. And since Kings doesn’t seem to give a shit about marketing, they need to go. Now. We have six weeks tops before reeling starts.
If WW has someone reading this board…it’s time to act like you’re the right partner!!!
“I really have no idea how much KBLB has learned because Kings spent(I'm guessing) no small amount of money trying to make it work early on, but we got results that will enable all that follow to adapt.”
That may all be true. But what confidence do we place on their marketing prowess if they can’t show the slightest bit of excitement in the last 6 months? These are the people we are relying on moving tonnage? The ones who aren’t as excited as the least bullish iHubber?
ANY other partner would have had the brains to at least FAKE being interested in latest developments.
Was going to edit my last comment but got interrupted and now can't. Anyway, they're not "useless". They had the fashion show way back when. So they weren't back then. But at the moment, to let all these milestones be achieved by Kim and say absolutely nothing makes them a liability in my opinion. If Kings is still a partner and they sit there like bumps on a log while Kim PRs milestone after milestone, then they need to be gotten rid of. Kim can't even get an attaboy from his partner? What message does that send to the market? Why should anyone be excited about Kim's news if the "strategic partner/shareholder" can't even act like he's got interest in success?
What a slap in the face to just say NOTHING. Screw Kings group. I hope they get GSSed!
They should be. Useless partner to date. Time for them to come out of hiding.
"It's possible Kim really pissed Wee off by telling him he was ready to ship silk long before he was"
No doubt WW was pissed. I would've been too. He spent how much on the fashion show? Okay. That was back when Kim needed Kings. Now KIM is holding the cards. He's sitting out front honking the horn and if Kings is still copping an attitude about it, he should drive away. Yesterday.
We know with 100% certainty (because A-listers have cut deals with silk protein manufacturers) that the big boys want to do a deal now that confidence is high in the production model. Kim can take them on a tour and sit them down with VSA if he has to. In other words, Kim doesn't have to take this shit from Kings.
Kings needs to start acting like they deserve to be the first DS customer ASAP.
"I'll tell you what it costs, it cost your reputation"
Boo hoo. You take chances when dealing with a development stage company. No one took it out on Adidas or North Face for the spider silk products they actually marketed that still haven't made it to mass production.
Here's reality...if UA is paying close attention to Kraig Labs, they have already called Kim and said, "punt that jackwagon partner you've got and i'll pay you a million bucks right now and our marketing department will be on it TOMORROW spreading the word". Believe me, Kim has had those phone calls. If he hasn't, he's getting them today.
It's way past time for WW to speak if he's still in the game.
No product to date...true.
But a good marketing department builds anticipation. You don't get the product THEN try to get the word out.
then I hope that means that Kings is out of the picture. That's the only scenario that excuses being an impotent partner to date.
No. If Kings is still a partner and can't be bothered to comment on the recent success of their partner, THEY have made it personal. The only people out there praising KBLB are the few here, Kim Thompson, and the people he paid to promote it. A "partner" should have been throwing gas on every fire that was lit by Kim's PRs. As of today's PR, Kim does not need Kings. They are contributing nothing to get the word out. Not even the minimum.
If WW is reading, then he needs to UN**ck himself and start acting like he's got a dog in this fight.
"It would make total sense to me if there was a conversation between Kraig and Kings that suggests there will be no media until there is proven production."
Fine. So what's Kings' excuse for it being a mystery to shareholders whether they're still partners? None.
I get it. I'm sure it sucked paying for the fashion show and then no silk. They gambled and lost. but...What's a tweet cost? What does posting a link to a PR cost? If they're pissed about losing money on the fashion show then it's time to get over it and remember who brought them to the dance. If Kings is doing nothing behind the scenes right now, Kim needs to kick them to the curb ASAP and sign an A-lister.
the bashers here draw more attention to KBLB than the Kings group does. How pathetic is that? If anyone stumbled across the Kings website or social media account, why is it that you'd have to dig all the way to 2019 to find mention of spydasilk?
We've got a couple comments from WW that KBLB is a business partner and that's about it. (facebook posts by people who don't work at kings group don't count)
Bullshit. This is a business relationship. Kings gambled on a production company and knew there could be delays. Production is here and has been obviously building for the last 6 months. Yes, the silence is insulting as was the bullshit 6/10 comment.
Here we are, customers lined around the block wanting this product and Kings thinks they don’t even have to comment on anything? Screw them. This is business. Time for Kings to lose the shitty attitude or lose the account.
Very exciting times ahead! It would be awesome if we had a business partner who acted like they remember that they’re first in line for the next biggest thing in textiles.
WW can’t get off his ass and at least post a KBLB PR on social media to say “HEY! Look at what our partner is doing!”
It’s a couple clicks. Where the hell is Kings group? This silence is insulting. What marketing department genius ever said “ we will sell more if we pretend we aren’t even interested and remain silent”
I haven’t seen anything about Kings on facebook. But I don’t look that often and haven’t read everything.
Kings may very well still be part of the equation. That’s fine if they are.
But if they were MY “strategic partner” I would be kicking WW’s ass all over the place for his silence and that bullshit 6/10 comment. Some “partner” that is.
You don’t publicly disparage your business partners on social media. That’s dumber than the longs here who trash their own stock day in and out.
It’s time for WW to act like he gives a crap if he wants stay in a partnership.
Yeah I think Kings is still planning something. But it would sure be nice if they acted like they were still going to the prom with us. Because if not, ALL the popular girls suddenly noticed us!
And they would all LOVE to be our date!
Did you hear that WW? It’s time to open your mouth and quit acting like you’re embarrassed to be seen with us!!! We’ve got A-listers lined up who are dressed and ready to go. The tables have turned. Now WE are stuck with YOU! So start acting like you’re excited and start marketing.
Just a hunch, but the yields have been so much larger than expected that I think Kim is waiting to specify a quantity until it’s a ton.
Or a least until there’s a quantity large enough so that there’s no need to limit any orders.
I’m hoping they make a set DS/Pima sheets that I can buy ASAP. They’ll inspire me to dream about how to spend my millions.
Exactly. With today’s announcement, future collaboration news will no longer just be temporary spikes.
We hit .50 with no production to support the surge. It’s coming. The very real production timeline is established. Next collaboration announcement is a totally different animal.
I haven’t looked to see if Wendy Wu (Walter Wee) has tweeted anything congratulatory to Kim Thompson and the Kraig Labs team. if not, I’m sure someone else would gladly take their place as first in line.
Of course I don’t know the details of the Kings deal, but right about now I’d be cramming the last 6 months of silence and the “6 out of 10” rating down WW’s throat.
All you have to do is look at facebook to find out. His name is public.
Saw on facebook that someone wondered why there is such a low number of shareholders of record in KBLB.
Just the number of brokers are listed. They hold the stock on behalf of the client. All ownership rights are bestowed on the client as the beneficial owner.
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/185.asp
I believe Monday will mark 6 weeks since the cocooning news of April 22nd. Life cycle being 6-8 weeks we just may get a report.
Wasn’t the original question about why BAM-1 wasn’t mentioned?
That’s the platform for DS. Very clear language.
I don’t know what is so confusing. All DS henceforth is BAM-1 til further notice.
BAM 1 will also be the platform for MS, Spyrda, & whatever else for the time being.
And all silk produced by the pairing of the two homozygous parental strains going forward will be what is sold under the trademark "Dragon Silk".
"The BAM-1 hybrids produce Dragon SilkTM, one of the Company’s major recombinant spider silk technology breakthroughs. Kraig Labs developed Dragon Silk to blend spider silk’s incredible physical and chemical properties with commercially scalable technology leveraging mundane silk production infrastructure."
All DS is produced by the BAM-1 hybrid.
It's in there. It's called "Dragon Silk". You have to know the history to catch the reference to BAM-1. Here it is...
"In 2023 the Company implemented a concentrated program to strengthen our production silkworm strains with the goal of increasing their robustness and tolerance for the commercial production environment. We undertook this program because our study of previous attempts to increase production indicated that our laboratory strains may have lacked the necessary robustness to carry out our production objectives. This process involved selective breeding over many generations and isolating target traits while crossbreeding with more robust specimens. The ultimate goal is to create two, and ultimately four, separate strains of our silkworm, which, when crossed with each other, would produce significant hybrid vigor. We are now concentrated on six strains, half of which are ready or nearly ready for field trials. As of December 2023, we achieved homozygous for the transgene in one of those strains. We achieved homozygosity of a second strain in the first quarter of 2024."
This is great news. Thanks for sharing! I was hoping they'd get the axe back when all the management was fired. The first string is available to KBLB now thanks to their new friends at VSA/LAREC. I don't want any second stringers hanging around that aren't 100% on board with Kumar's changes.
(TBH, I had hoped to read that they parted ways with Kings Group as well. I'd like a bigger name attached to the first product launch. I'm worried about Kings' marketing prowess. I guess we'll find out.)
I was expecting this GSS news ever since October after we heard this: https://www.kraiglabs.com/kraig-biocraft-laboratories-announces-management-changes-and-recalibration-at-its-vietnam-subsidiary-prodigy-textiles-to-increase-production-of-spider-silk/
Not to mention saying to be cautious …
odd considering he’s Mr YMIGH himself…the one who declared KBLB a guaranteed sure thing, and challenged everyone to a fight who dared express caution.
Unbelievable
That’s easy. They PRd something about Kraig Labs. It’s still on their website.
You poor thing. Have you got your number of posts back up to a good number?
You keep forgetting to login to this one after using one of your other names.
Your other personalities aren’t as unhinged. You should stick to those.
After further review, I’m not dismissing it as old news necessarily. The copyright year is 2024.
I believe they just referenced the polartec PR from 2019. The language is drawn from that PR yet the page was made this year.
It would be fantastic if Polartec were the recipient of the initial batches. They had been working with KBLB since 2016 before the PR.
(I hope Kings is out of the picture)
Here’s the Polartec PR: https://www.polartec.com/news/kraig
I don't see anything about homozygous parental lines or India's top sericulture expert. Don't be so lazy. Keep looking.
Better yet, call the police on me. LMAO
Cool. Thanks. So much for that.
Could be. That’s what it looks like. But I don’t see a date. I run the same search all the time and I’ve never seen it before.
Where do you see a date? Says “copyright 2024” on mine. Looks old, but don’t know why it just showed up.
This is more than mildly interesting. Signal Sportswear manufactures in Cambodia. They partner with polartec.
Something very interesting is on their website... https://www.signal-sportswear.com/edcontent_d.php?lang=en&tb=3&id=162
Yeah. And how does a paid promotion impede production? It doesn’t.
So we may as well get the share price up as long as Kim is using it as currency.
There is no case to make that silence is a good idea. None.
PRs cost money too. Should they just go mute til they sell something? If not, why not? Because that would be a terrible idea.
KBLB is in dire need of getting noticed. Paying someone to get the word out is overdue and doesn't slow down the road to production. We have the news to move the share price higher, problem is that no one is watching/caring about KBLB. I personally own more shares than the average trading volume. That means that ALMOST NOBODY gives two shits about KBLB. The people watching are already shareholders and the people who care about spider silk have their billions on the competition. The day can't come soon enough when those people wake up to find out that Kim's live bait shop just crushed their billion dollar investments.
Shares are currency. Kim is using shares as money and is preparing to launch a product. People need to know about it. The more that do, the higher the value, the bigger the launch.
The more people that know about KBLB prior to a big name being attached, the better for us.
If we want to jump exchanges, the word must get out.
We’ll find out when it hits broadway. They’re working on Jardiance and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.
They have the same singers
“a paid promo just smacks of BS....but if it works, then it works...”
I see paid promos every single day. In fact, I’m pretty sure I could sing the Jardiance song in my sleep.
Maybe we can get the same people to write a jingle.